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* "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person56g.1173
+- Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonAndy Burns
+* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonAhem A Rivet's Shot
|+- Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonPancho
|`- Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonCharlie Gibbs
+- Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonThe Natural Philosopher
+* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonComputer Nerd Kev
|`* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person56g.1173
| `* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonAndy Burns
|  `* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person56g.1183
|   `* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonAndy Burns
|    +* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonThe Natural Philosopher
|    |`* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonAndy Burns
|    | `* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonTimS
|    |  `* Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This PersonThe Natural Philosopher
|    |   `- Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person56g.1183
|    `- Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person56g.1183
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"Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person

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Subject: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person
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 by: 56g.1173 - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 06:15 UTC

CSRPi has been infested with this bullshit for at
least a month now. Constantly-changing addresses,
identities, orgs ... no good way to block 'em unless
you're writing your own NNTP apps and even then it'd
be a lot of work.

Usenet ain't what it used to be. Indeed it's just BARELY
hanging on. Goog thinks it OWNS Usenet. Most ISPs no
longer provide it because of "liability" issues for
free speech/ideas/(and PORN).

On the plus, Usenet is almost "underground" now, so
"crude" that few use it or even know it exists. It
also has the advantage of being UN-owned, despite
what Goog may think. It's just a service on an
old port.

Hey, somewhere ... DO implement open NNTP with most
every group imaginable .... and preferably on
multiple PORTS so ISPs can't easily block it. It's
not a money maker ... it's a "freedom" thing ...
which is now more important than most realize,
esp if your freedom has been recently snatched
away by the latest Fearless Leader.

Hey, as the spammer said, it's the Battle For
The Grid :-)

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 06:24 UTC

56g.1173 wrote:

> CSRPi has been infested with this bullshit for at
> least a month now. Constantly-changing addresses,
> identities, orgs ... no good way to block 'em

Most people have figured-out what works for them ...

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 07:12 UTC

On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 01:15:09 -0500
"56g.1173" <56g.1173@ztq9.net> wrote:

> CSRPi has been infested with this bullshit for at
> least a month now. Constantly-changing addresses,
> identities, orgs ... no good way to block 'em unless
> you're writing your own NNTP apps and even then it'd
> be a lot of work.

First I've heard of it - cleanfeed must be suppressing it at E-S.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
Host: Beautiful Theory meet Inconvenient Fact
Obit: Beautiful Theory died today of factual inconsistency

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 by: Pancho - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 11:38 UTC

On 11/12/2023 07:12, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 01:15:09 -0500
> "56g.1173" <56g.1173@ztq9.net> wrote:
>
>> CSRPi has been infested with this bullshit for at
>> least a month now. Constantly-changing addresses,
>> identities, orgs ... no good way to block 'em unless
>> you're writing your own NNTP apps and even then it'd
>> be a lot of work.
>
> First I've heard of it - cleanfeed must be suppressing it at E-S.
>

I see Google Groups has got even more irritating.

In the past, I would view Usenet in Google Groups to see if E-S or my
killfile were being over enthusiastic. Now Google Groups have disabled
"Show original message" so I can't see what the message headers are, or
why they might have offended my killfile.

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From: tnp...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 11:40 UTC

On 11/12/2023 06:15, 56g.1173 wrote:
> CSRPi has been infested with this bullshit for at
> least a month now. Constantly-changing addresses,
> identities, orgs ... no good way to block 'em unless
> you're writing your own NNTP apps and even then it'd
> be a lot of work.
>
Er, what are you talking about. I am not seeing these posts, I think..

--
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

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 by: Charlie Gibbs - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 19:07 UTC

On 2023-12-11, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 01:15:09 -0500
> "56g.1173" <56g.1173@ztq9.net> wrote:
>
>> CSRPi has been infested with this bullshit for at
>> least a month now. Constantly-changing addresses,
>> identities, orgs ... no good way to block 'em unless
>> you're writing your own NNTP apps and even then it'd
>> be a lot of work.
>
> First I've heard of it - cleanfeed must be suppressing it at E-S.

It's a shame how many users have been driven away from so many
newsgroups (including my favourite, alt.folklore.computers) by
these yahoos. It appears that CSRPi has become home for a.f.c
refugees, thread drift and all. I use slrn, and have fortunately
found a way to drop the crap; I've added stanzas like this to
~/News/Score:

[comp.*.*]
Score: =-9999
Expires: 9/14/2024
Injection-Info: google*
Newsgroup: comp\.*\.*

This even allows legitimate Google vict^H^H^H^Husers at gmail.com
to still post visibly.
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | The Internet is like a big city:
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | it has plenty of bright lights and
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | excitement, but also dark alleys
/ \ if you read it the right way. | down which the unwary get mugged.

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 by: Computer Nerd Kev - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 21:34 UTC

56g.1173 <56g.1173@ztq9.net> wrote:
> CSRPi has been infested with this bullshit for at
> least a month now. Constantly-changing addresses,
> identities, orgs ... no good way to block 'em unless
> you're writing your own NNTP apps and even then it'd
> be a lot of work.

Sounds like the Google Groups spam has reached here then. For
background see news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.

You're using Thunderbird, and I believe many other Thunderbird
users have killfiled all posts originating from Google Groups as a
solution, but perhaps that's not what you'd call a "good way to
block 'em".

Many news servers have also started implementing spam filtering,
or blocking all posts from Google Groups like the one I'm using
did.

--
__ __
#_ < |\| |< _# | Note: I won't see posts made from Google Groups |

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 by: 56g.1173 - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 04:51 UTC

On 12/11/23 4:34 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> 56g.1173 <56g.1173@ztq9.net> wrote:
>> CSRPi has been infested with this bullshit for at
>> least a month now. Constantly-changing addresses,
>> identities, orgs ... no good way to block 'em unless
>> you're writing your own NNTP apps and even then it'd
>> be a lot of work.
>
> Sounds like the Google Groups spam has reached here then. For
> background see news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.
>
> You're using Thunderbird, and I believe many other Thunderbird
> users have killfiled all posts originating from Google Groups as a
> solution, but perhaps that's not what you'd call a "good way to
> block 'em".

Alas there are also GOOD posts from people (foolishly)
using GoogGroups. Don't want to burn them

> Many news servers have also started implementing spam filtering,
> or blocking all posts from Google Groups like the one I'm using
> did.

Yea, semi-useful ... but, as said, also at a PRICE.

You can PAY for what's supposed to be free, but bear
in mind that paying TAGS you, so political harpies
can later persecute/prosecute you for thought crimes ...

What's NEEDED are more servers, pref in countries kinda
off the map. Also needed, more alternate ports to thwart
blocking. Yea, you can do it as web pages, but they're
computationally/bandwidth expensive compared to NNTP.

Hmm, maybe Musk could fork over some pocket-change ... ???
Seems to be the only Important Person who "gets it"
relative to free-speech/ideas anymore. Hell, even
the French have buried Voltaire ......

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 by: Andy Burns - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 09:34 UTC

56g.1173 wrote:

>   Alas there are also GOOD posts from people (foolishly)
>   using GoogGroups. Don't want to burn them

you appear to be using thunderbird (even though it's an old version, all
of the following should apply)

create a new address book, e.g. called "googlegroups-whitelist", add all
the good authors email addrs to it

create a message new filter e.g. called "selective-googlegroups" at the
top level of your news server (giganews? earthlink?) with the following

match ALL of the following

message-id: CONTAINS @googlegroups.com

from: ISN'T IN addr book googlegroups-whitelist

and actions of

mark as READ
tag message as #6

if you don't see message-id: in the list of fields, click customise...
and add it

you may already use tag #6 for other purposes, adjust accordingly, or
don't bother tagging, I tag them as find it helpful to see how the
filters are performing.

</spoonfeed>

Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person

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From: inva...@invalid.invalid (Richard Kettlewell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject: Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 09:58:45 +0000
Organization: terraraq NNTP server
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 by: Richard Kettlewell - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 09:58 UTC

"56g.1173" <56g.1173@ztq9.net> writes:
> CSRPi has been infested with this bullshit for at least a month
> now. Constantly-changing addresses, identities, orgs ... no good way
> to block 'em unless you're writing your own NNTP apps and even then
> it'd be a lot of work.

You need a news service provider with better spam filtering. I can’t
promise “no spam” but it’s possible to kill a lot of it with
responsively maintained filter.

> Usenet ain't what it used to be. Indeed it's just BARELY hanging
> on. Goog thinks it OWNS Usenet. Most ISPs no longer provide it because
> of "liability" issues for free speech/ideas/(and PORN).

AIUI part of the issue is that institutionally speaking, Google has
essentially forgotten about it.

I’m not ready to block Google locally; it’s a major source of legitimate
user as well as spam. But when I look at my logs I do see where the
people advocating a full block are coming from:

Dec 12 09:55:07 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <9f027102-73ab-42a8-985b-c529a0e9c10fn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:08 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <f759c599-b396-4d89-ab3c-5b466a73ee89n@googlegroups.com> 439 spam keyword in body
Dec 12 09:55:10 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <d670653c-5f18-4bc1-82c1-0c4d973724d4n@googlegroups.com> 439 excessive links
Dec 12 09:55:12 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <45284bd4-1dac-440f-a069-ee2a11976793n@googlegroups.com> 439 EMP
Dec 12 09:55:14 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <50ea30b9-0aa7-45e7-a61c-1530082cf5d3n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:17 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <3f6a3a77-7af0-4074-8f08-57efd72c9921n@googlegroups.com> 439 spam keyword in subject
Dec 12 09:55:18 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <7db6ce52-065a-4bd5-9fff-4db7f0b40d68n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:19 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <2685bb73-01dd-405f-aea9-dbc1e6838eb4n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:19 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <7fe27d31-7bdb-4c4c-bce9-308bb201d6a4n@googlegroups.com> 439 spam keyword in body
Dec 12 09:55:20 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <841e9096-52de-45d7-aa99-7a2e40e78900n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:22 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <becbd864-9c09-4c35-a894-f3a5711ba4bcn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:23 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <ba9f5ca5-377e-44a0-81a7-db54059a9cfcn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:23 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <1f0eabaa-b3e9-4ad1-835c-f78ef4391088n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:23 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <30f15d6a-79b1-4d44-9abe-a8f0aa9d375bn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:28 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <a72a4d7f-b95a-45c6-b8c5-008f88f9c4c4n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:29 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <8af19f41-aabb-4347-ba74-ab17954d3391n@googlegroups.com> 439 spam keyword in body
Dec 12 09:55:29 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <ab7a8f90-168e-4fa8-942d-ab5241e7f6e0n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:32 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <7e5b3bde-3514-430d-8392-1b69189c0405n@googlegroups.com> 439 EMP
Dec 12 09:55:32 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <f0cd6eb9-bd97-4c56-822d-d681444ea187n@googlegroups.com> 439 spam keyword in body
Dec 12 09:55:32 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <eb325fa7-bf26-45bb-9355-f4555b08b91fn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:33 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <c8b46f7f-5c4c-46cc-89f8-64c98ff8c32en@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:33 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <014009e5-28e0-441d-a64a-72426da7dc6bn@googlegroups.com> 439 EMP
Dec 12 09:55:34 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <db23b90f-2484-417b-a5c7-3954014ab3cfn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:34 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <327721b9-bf39-49ca-a1b2-c8cb88ffa534n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:34 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <9b285354-4374-408b-ae3f-ccb9d92407f4n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:36 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <1c32fe79-fc27-46fb-abec-2dea5f51baecn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:36 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <280aae9d-8259-4888-b110-41537505b311n@googlegroups.com> 439 excessive links
Dec 12 09:55:37 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <528e347c-1e19-4af0-98ca-4098f4ac31aan@googlegroups.com> 439 spam keyword in body
Dec 12 09:55:37 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <a1f4fee5-45d0-4679-8b0f-0045ef4c133bn@googlegroups.com> 439 EMP
Dec 12 09:55:38 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <a49298f7-4710-4a08-aa3f-79ebeec4bcccn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:39 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <7f139c84-a8a9-41c5-ae49-1eb6e447f030n@googlegroups.com> 439 spam keyword in body
Dec 12 09:55:40 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <df302f7a-9c2d-4ca8-9776-7e6dadf221c3n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:42 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <8860276e-3e7f-494d-8a60-50641bad33f9n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:43 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <25c281fa-623f-4ce4-bffb-acad30075f33n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:44 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <6b7ac2e0-8e4e-422e-b3cb-9d766a090af8n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:45 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <4cd5632c-d9ee-438c-9485-1bc570ab5e9cn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:47 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <fccf1360-a5e6-4bfa-82b0-3b0e7ee7476dn@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:50 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <f0ce82ce-48a8-4c45-b667-d9838e0de6d7n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood
Dec 12 09:55:50 innmantic innd: rejecting[python] <d70d5961-822e-4bc1-be22-bbb476855db3n@googlegroups.com> 439 Thai flood

--
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
From: cgi...@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs)
Subject: Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person
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 by: Charlie Gibbs - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:43 UTC

On 2023-12-12, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I’m not ready to block Google locally; it’s a major source of legitimate
> user as well as spam. But when I look at my logs I do see where the
> people advocating a full block are coming from:

<list snipped>

I took a close look at some of this spam, and found that it
contains an "Injection-Info: google..." header that isn't
in legitimate messages, whether they're from a Google user
or not. By adding the following stanza to ~/News/Score
(I'm using slrn), I'm able to drop the spam while retaining
legitimate messages with gmail.com on the From: line.

[comp.*.*]
Score: =-9999
Expires: 9/14/2024
Injection-Info: google*
Newsgroup: comp\.*\.*

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | The Internet is like a big city:
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | it has plenty of bright lights and
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | excitement, but also dark alleys
/ \ if you read it the right way. | down which the unwary get mugged.

Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person

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From: tnp...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject: Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 03:05:50 +0000
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Wed, 13 Dec 2023 03:05 UTC

On 12/12/2023 19:43, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2023-12-12, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I’m not ready to block Google locally; it’s a major source of legitimate
>> user as well as spam. But when I look at my logs I do see where the
>> people advocating a full block are coming from:
>
> <list snipped>
>
> I took a close look at some of this spam, and found that it
> contains an "Injection-Info: google..." header that isn't
> in legitimate messages, whether they're from a Google user
> or not. By adding the following stanza to ~/News/Score
> (I'm using slrn), I'm able to drop the spam while retaining
> legitimate messages with gmail.com on the From: line.
>
> [comp.*.*]
> Score: =-9999
> Expires: 9/14/2024
> Injection-Info: google*
> Newsgroup: comp\.*\.*
>
Fore some reason injection info didnt work on thunderbird, but message
ID contains googlegroups did IIRC.

--
Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

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From: use...@andyburns.uk (Andy Burns)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject: Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person
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 by: Andy Burns - Wed, 13 Dec 2023 08:53 UTC

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> I took a close look at some of this spam, and found that it
>> contains an "Injection-Info: google..." header that isn't
>> in legitimate messages, whether they're from a Google user
>> or not.
>
> Fore some reason injection info didnt work on thunderbird, but message
> ID contains googlegroups did IIRC.

The advantage with filtering based on the message-id: header is that
it's always included in the OVERVIEW.FMT set of headers returned by the
LIST and OVER NNTP commands, so the client doesn't have to issue extra
commands to (try) and retrieve additional headers that may, or may not,
be present ...

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From: sco...@alfter.diespammersdie.us
Subject: Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person
Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
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 by: sco...@alfter.diespammersdie.us - Thu, 14 Dec 2023 22:05 UTC

Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-12-12, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I’m not ready to block Google locally; it’s a major source of legitimate
>> user as well as spam. But when I look at my logs I do see where the
>> people advocating a full block are coming from:
>
> <list snipped>
>
> I took a close look at some of this spam, and found that it
> contains an "Injection-Info: google..." header that isn't
> in legitimate messages, whether they're from a Google user
> or not. By adding the following stanza to ~/News/Score
> (I'm using slrn), I'm able to drop the spam while retaining
> legitimate messages with gmail.com on the From: line.
>
> [comp.*.*]
> Score: =-9999
> Expires: 9/14/2024
> Injection-Info: google*
> Newsgroup: comp\.*\.*

Any idea how I might do this with tin, or do I need to shitcan tin and
replace it with something else? Its filtering appears to be restricted to a
handful of common header lines (such as From and Subject) and doesn't appear
to allow filtering on just any header line. What little documentation I've
been able to find has been woefully inadequate.

(I'd been using trn (and rn before that) for decades, but it hasn't been
updated in nearly as long and I can't get it to build on reasonably modern
Gentoo Linux systems anymore.)

--
_/_
/ v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
(IIGS( https://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
\_^_/ >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?

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From: spamtra...@jacob21819.net (Robert Riches)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject: Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person
Date: 15 Dec 2023 03:37:05 GMT
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 by: Robert Riches - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 03:37 UTC

On 2023-12-14, scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-12, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m not ready to block Google locally; it’s a major source of legitimate
>>> user as well as spam. But when I look at my logs I do see where the
>>> people advocating a full block are coming from:
>>
>> <list snipped>
>>
>> I took a close look at some of this spam, and found that it
>> contains an "Injection-Info: google..." header that isn't
>> in legitimate messages, whether they're from a Google user
>> or not. By adding the following stanza to ~/News/Score
>> (I'm using slrn), I'm able to drop the spam while retaining
>> legitimate messages with gmail.com on the From: line.
>>
>> [comp.*.*]
>> Score: =-9999
>> Expires: 9/14/2024
>> Injection-Info: google*
>> Newsgroup: comp\.*\.*
>
> Any idea how I might do this with tin, or do I need to shitcan tin and
> replace it with something else? Its filtering appears to be restricted to a
> handful of common header lines (such as From and Subject) and doesn't appear
> to allow filtering on just any header line. What little documentation I've
> been able to find has been woefully inadequate.
>
> (I'd been using trn (and rn before that) for decades, but it hasn't been
> updated in nearly as long and I can't get it to build on reasonably modern
> Gentoo Linux systems anymore.)

It worked great for me with slrn (on a non-Raspberry-Pi system).

HTH

--
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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 by: Chris Green - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 14:42 UTC

scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> > On 2023-12-12, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> I’m not ready to block Google locally; it’s a major source of legitimate
> >> user as well as spam. But when I look at my logs I do see where the
> >> people advocating a full block are coming from:
> >
> > <list snipped>
> >
> > I took a close look at some of this spam, and found that it
> > contains an "Injection-Info: google..." header that isn't
> > in legitimate messages, whether they're from a Google user
> > or not. By adding the following stanza to ~/News/Score
> > (I'm using slrn), I'm able to drop the spam while retaining
> > legitimate messages with gmail.com on the From: line.
> >
> > [comp.*.*]
> > Score: =-9999
> > Expires: 9/14/2024
> > Injection-Info: google*
> > Newsgroup: comp\.*\.*
>
> Any idea how I might do this with tin, or do I need to shitcan tin and
> replace it with something else? Its filtering appears to be restricted to a
> handful of common header lines (such as From and Subject) and doesn't appear
> to allow filtering on just any header line. What little documentation I've
> been able to find has been woefully inadequate.
>
The tin mailing list is still functional and I've always got prompt
and useful responses when I have asked questions there.

Its address is tin-users@tin.org.

--
Chris Green
·

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 by: 56g.1183 - Thu, 21 Dec 2023 07:00 UTC

On 12/12/23 4:34 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> 56g.1173 wrote:
>
>>    Alas there are also GOOD posts from people (foolishly)
>>    using GoogGroups. Don't want to burn them
>
> you appear to be using thunderbird (even though it's an old version, all
> of the following should apply)
>
> create a new address book, e.g. called "googlegroups-whitelist", add all
> the good authors email addrs to it

Um ... NO.

Far too much work - and highly discriminatory against
those I don't already KNOW to post useful stuff (even
if they ARE annoying :-)

For Usenet ... "kill filters" are best for Bad Posters.
View, judge, then act if necessary. It's more "democratic"
and "free speech" .......

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 by: Andy Burns - Thu, 21 Dec 2023 08:41 UTC

56g.1183 wrote:

>   Far too much work - and highly discriminatory against
>   those I don't already KNOW to post useful stuff (even
>   if they ARE annoying

Well, google are soon going to do it for you, all their users will be
indiscriminately dumped.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 21 Dec 2023 10:13 UTC

On 21/12/2023 08:41, Andy Burns wrote:
> 56g.1183 wrote:
>
>>    Far too much work - and highly discriminatory against
>>    those I don't already KNOW to post useful stuff (even
>>    if they ARE annoying
>
> Well, google are soon going to do it for you, all their users will be
> indiscriminately dumped.

Which is good, because all those who care about Usenet will find another
way to post.

--
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.

Mark Twain

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 by: Andy Burns - Thu, 21 Dec 2023 10:58 UTC

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> all those who care about Usenet will find another way to post.

You'd think, but I've seen a few users (who presumably used a client and
had an account on a server before google took deja) say they can't be
bothered if it's more involved than a web page ...

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 by: TimS - Thu, 21 Dec 2023 11:33 UTC

On 21 Dec 2023 at 10:58:30 GMT, "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> all those who care about Usenet will find another way to post.
>
> You'd think, but I've seen a few users (who presumably used a client and
> had an account on a server before google took deja) say they can't be
> bothered if it's more involved than a web page ...

Well knickers to 'em then.

--
Tim

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 21 Dec 2023 12:05 UTC

On 21/12/2023 11:33, TimS wrote:
> On 21 Dec 2023 at 10:58:30 GMT, "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> all those who care about Usenet will find another way to post.
>>
>> You'd think, but I've seen a few users (who presumably used a client and
>> had an account on a server before google took deja) say they can't be
>> bothered if it's more involved than a web page ...
>
> Well knickers to 'em then.
>
I tend to concur with that sentiment.

--
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere,
diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
― Groucho Marx

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 by: 56g.1183 - Fri, 22 Dec 2023 04:24 UTC

On 12/21/23 3:41 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> 56g.1183 wrote:
>
>>    Far too much work - and highly discriminatory against
>>    those I don't already KNOW to post useful stuff (even
>>    if they ARE annoying
>
> Well, google are soon going to do it for you, all their users will be
> indiscriminately dumped.

Which is why I don't use their 'service' ... censorious bastards
in the best totalitarian traditions.

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 by: 56g.1183 - Fri, 22 Dec 2023 04:37 UTC

On 12/21/23 7:05 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 21/12/2023 11:33, TimS wrote:
>> On 21 Dec 2023 at 10:58:30 GMT, "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> all those who care about Usenet will find another way to post.
>>>
>>> You'd think, but I've seen a few users (who presumably used a client and
>>> had an account on a server before google took deja) say they can't be
>>> bothered if it's more involved than a web page ...
>>
>> Well knickers to 'em then.
>>
> I tend to concur with that sentiment.

Note that, maybe deliberately, there are a lot FEWER
ways to post. Almost all ISPs have dropped usenet
because there might be some 'naughty' content. The
remaining free providers often offer few groups, and
will themselves censor groups they have political
disagreement with. You can still PAY for access from
a dedicated provider - but then you set yourself up
for doxxing/retaliation to a greater degree.

So, on the whole, not good.

Dedication to free-speech/expression is hard to find
in the modern world. Despite its semi-obscure status
usenet/free-exchange is seen as a 'threat' by many.

One POSSIBLE hope ... Elon Musk. He really does seem to
"get it" relative to free speech. If prompted, he could
very quietly add a usenet feed to his stuff - preferably
almost entirely undocumented. The bandwidth would be
utterly insignificant.

Another important bit for the future ... offer usenet
on multiple PORTS, not just the standard. This would
make it harder for ISPs to just cut out the NNTP port
entirely. Some ISPs cut out 'insecure' mail ports
already, they can easily add more and expect the
current pols to encourage that.

I am going to craft a letter and attempt to get it
to Musk (though he DOES have a lot on his table).
Maybe he'll get it, maybe not, but at least there
would be an ATTEMPT. Doing nothing GETS you nothing.

Re: "Power Rangers" ??? Seems No Way To Block This Person

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 by: Scott Alfter - Thu, 28 Dec 2023 21:37 UTC

In article <sJ2eN.20230$p%Mb.16374@fx15.iad>,
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>I took a close look at some of this spam, and found that it
>contains an "Injection-Info: google..." header that isn't
>in legitimate messages, whether they're from a Google user
>or not. By adding the following stanza to ~/News/Score
>(I'm using slrn), I'm able to drop the spam while retaining
>legitimate messages with gmail.com on the From: line.
>
>[comp.*.*]
>Score: =-9999
>Expires: 9/14/2024
> Injection-Info: google*
> Newsgroup: comp\.*\.*

Adding this to ~/News/KILL works for trn:

/Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com/h:j

I never did figure out how to do the same thing with tin, which is why I'm
back to using trn again. (Figured out how to run it in a container, so it's
more easily portable between different Linux systems.)

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