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* Citadel Improved Software LicenseCitadel Groupware BBS
+* Re: Citadel Improved Software LicenseMarco Moock
|`- Re: Citadel Improved Software LicenseD.J.
`- Re: Citadel Improved Software LicenseParodper

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 by: Citadel Groupware BB - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:53 UTC

"As a special bonus, our copy of the GPL has been improved to refer to
our favorite operating system as "Linux" and our favorite method of
publishing software as "open source". Although we are big fans of open
source software, we are not fans of Richard Stallman and his far-left
communist tendencies to rename things."

https://www.citadel.org/what_source_code_license_do_you_use.html

"To begin with, go ahead and completely disregard the GNU coding
standards. Code written to those standards is almost as sloppy looking
as Richard Stallman himself. We prefer code written to the K&R style,
specifically the "1TBS" variant."

https://citadel.org/coding_style.html

"Our official position is that the phrase "GNU/Linux" is only used by
agitators like Richard Stallman who contribute little more than noise
and friction to the open source community."

https://citadel.org/citadel_past_present_and_future.html

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From: mm+usene...@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Citadel Improved Software License
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 by: Marco Moock - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:49 UTC

Am 26.09.2023 um 13:53:24 Uhr schrieb Citadel Groupware BBS:

> "Our official position is that the phrase "GNU/Linux" is only used by
> agitators like Richard Stallman who contribute little more than noise
> and friction to the open source community."

They should think about all the GNU software that is being shipped with
most Linux systems.
For decades it wasn't that bad that somebody created a real alternative
that is widespread.

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From: chuckthe...@gmnol.com (D.J.)
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Subject: Re: Citadel Improved Software License
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 by: D.J. - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:51 UTC

On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:49:18 +0200, Marco Moock
<mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>Am 26.09.2023 um 13:53:24 Uhr schrieb Citadel Groupware BBS:
>
>> "Our official position is that the phrase "GNU/Linux" is only used by
>> agitators like Richard Stallman who contribute little more than noise
>> and friction to the open source community."
>
>They should think about all the GNU software that is being shipped with
>most Linux systems.
>For decades it wasn't that bad that somebody created a real alternative
>that is widespread.

They sound like spammers to me.
--
Jim

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From: parod...@disroot.org (Parodper)
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Subject: Re: Citadel Improved Software License
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 by: Parodper - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 12:14 UTC

O 26/09/23 ás 14:53, Citadel Groupware BBS escribiu:
> "As a special bonus, our copy of the GPL has been improved to refer to
> our favorite operating system as "Linux" and our favorite method of
> publishing software as "open source". Although we are big fans of open
> source software, we are not fans of Richard Stallman and his far-left
> communist tendencies to rename things."
>
> https://www.citadel.org/what_source_code_license_do_you_use.html

Which means they are violating the license's copyright.

Also, they claim to like open source but their program doesn't even work
with LibreJS enabled.

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