nospam wrote:

> like sour milk, phones should have an odor so you know it needs to be
> discarded.

Luckily for you nospam, iOS essentially does that as the stone-age monolith
"*just dies*" (unlike all other common consumer operating systems which are
layered and where those layers are updated essentially forever nowadays).

On 8/6/22 1:04 AM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> like sour milk, phones should have an odor so you know it needs to be
>> discarded.
>
> Luckily for you nospam, iOS essentially does that as the stone-age monolith
> "*just dies*" (unlike all other common consumer operating systems which are
> layered and where those layers are updated essentially forever nowadays).

Andie-boy, you remind me of a guy who hates his hometown team but can't
stay away from the ballpark where he regularly shows up to boo them and
yell invectives...

Wade Garrett wrote:

> Andie-boy, you remind me of a guy who hates his hometown team but can't
> stay away from the ballpark where he regularly shows up to boo them and
> yell invectives...

Hi Wade,

Why can't you respond to the _facts_ instead of playing childish games?

The facts are that only Apple operating systems die on you such that you
can no longer update the default apps to the latest version on iOS.

That's just a fact.
It's a fact you _hate_ perhaps.

But the fact you hate that fact doesn't change the fact that fact is a fact.

*No other common consumer operating system _just dies_ like iOS does*
The adult question is why.

Are you an adult Wade?
Or a child?

Do you have an adult point of view Wade?
Or only that of a child?

Given you the benefit of the doubt, here's an adult question for you Wade:
*Why can't an older iOS update the default apps to the latest version*
*like all other common consumer operating systems habitually do?*
--
Please answer this adult question... like an adult would.

On 8/7/22 3:16 AM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Wade Garrett wrote:
>
>> Andie-boy, you remind me of a guy who hates his hometown team but
>> can't stay away from the ballpark where he regularly shows up to boo
>> them and yell invectives...
>
> Hi Wade,
>
> Why can't you respond to the _facts_ instead of playing childish games?
>
> The facts are that only Apple operating systems die on you such that you
> can no longer update the default apps to the latest version on iOS.
>
> That's just a fact.
> It's a fact you _hate_ perhaps.
>
> But the fact you hate that fact doesn't change the fact that fact is a
> fact.
>
> *No other common consumer operating system _just dies_ like iOS does*
> The adult question is why.
>
> Are you an adult Wade?
> Or a child?
>
> Do you have an adult point of view Wade?
> Or only that of a child?
>
> Given you the benefit of the doubt, here's an adult question for you Wade:
> *Why can't an older iOS update the default apps to the latest version*
> *like all other common consumer operating systems habitually do?*

Sure thing guy...you've reaffirmed my point. Give it a rest ;-)

On 2022-08-06, Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote:
> On 8/6/22 1:04 AM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> nospam wrote:
>>
>>> like sour milk, phones should have an odor so you know it needs to
>>> be discarded.
>>
>> Luckily for you nospam, iOS essentially does that as the stone-age
>> monolith "*just dies*" (unlike all other common consumer operating
>> systems which are layered and where those layers are updated
>> essentially forever nowadays).
>
> Andie-boy, you remind me of a guy who hates his hometown team but
> can't stay away from the ballpark where he regularly shows up to boo
> them and yell invectives...

The level of unhappiness and hatred to cause this behavior must truly be
hellish. And he does this to himself *willingly*. His existence is just
pathetic.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

Wade Garrett wrote:

> Sure thing guy...you've reaffirmed my point. Give it a rest ;-)

Notice the fact you can't respond to a fact like an adult should.
You _hate_ that the primitive iOS monolith lacks support longevity.
*iOS just die*

That's just a fact.
Your belief system, however, isn't based on any actual facts.

Your entire belief system is based purely on bullshit Apple marketing.

Much like flat earthers are wont to do, in order to maintain your
completely imaginary belief system, you respond with childish retorts.

Yet the fact remains a fact when you understand what operating systems are.
a. All modern operating common consumer operating systems update in layers.
b. Except the laughably primitive stone-age iOS monolith.

*That fact alone is why _iOS support dies sooner_ than all the others do*

Jolly Roger wrote:

> The level of unhappiness and hatred to cause this behavior must truly be
> hellish. And he does this to himself *willingly*. His existence is just
> pathetic.

And yet none of you iKooks has any adult response to the facts I presented.

*No other modern operating system dies sooner than does iOS.*
That's just a fact.

The fact is due to the primitive stone-age monolithic iOS design...
*iOS just dies*

You _hate_ that fact.
But the fact you hate facts doesn't change the fact it's still a fact.

> On 8/7/22 3:16 AM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> Wade Garrett wrote:
>>>
>>> Andie-boy, you remind me of a guy who hates his hometown team but can't
>>> stay away from the ballpark where he regularly shows up to boo them and
>>> yell invectives...
>>
>> Hi Wade,
>>
>> Why can't you respond to the _facts_ instead of playing childish games?
>>
>> The facts are that only Apple operating systems die on you such that you
>> can no longer update the default apps to the latest version on iOS.
<snip>

As usual, the moronic troll, having been proven wrong, now changes his
fictional nonsense to yet more brainless crap.

Try running the latest version of Microsoft's Edge web browser on
Windows 3.0 computer. Try running the latest version of whatever crappy
Android web browser on an Android 1.0 mobile device.

In article <tcpbd9$1445$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Try running the latest version of Microsoft's Edge web browser on
> Windows 3.0 computer.

no need to go back that far. it doesn't work on early win10 versions.

Your Name wrote:

> As usual, the moronic troll, having been proven wrong, now changes his
> fictional nonsense to yet more brainless crap.

I find it interesting that "Your Name" said that Windows costs money when
you upgrade, and multiple people (some of whom are his fellow iKooks) had
to explain to him that his belief system was based on exactly zero facts.

The fact was that the _entire_ belief system of Your Name... was imaginary.

Then... after _that_ event occurred in this very thread... he calls
everyone else... a "moronic troll". You have to see the humor in that.

HINT: He's so stupid that he doesn't even realize how stupid he really is.

> Try running the latest version of Microsoft's Edge web browser on
> Windows 3.0 computer. Try running the latest version of whatever crappy
> Android web browser on an Android 1.0 mobile device.

Assuming anyone on this child-like Apple newsgroup is an adult, here is a
"fair fight" factual comparison we can make that will provide some facts.

a. Tell us what the oldest iOS is that the newest Safari loads & works on.
b. I will look up the oldest Android that the newest Chrome does the same.

That's an objective starting point for an _adult_ discussion, is it not?
--
This comparison was requested moments ago in this adult factual thread.
*Why do Apple operating systems *just die* while all modern operating systems last, essentially, almost forever?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/T_-7sEITUKs>

nospam wrote:

>> Try running the latest version of Microsoft's Edge web browser on
>> Windows 3.0 computer.
>
> no need to go back that far. it doesn't work on early win10 versions.

As someone already said in this thread, it might not be fair to compare
desktops to mobile devices, because desktops are so mature that Windows 10
will still work just fine on desktops built before iOS even existed.

Given Widnows 10 is the most common version out there today, a more fair
comparison would probably be to compare what Windows 10 works on versus
what the most common current Mac OS works on.

But this thread is more about mobile devices, not the fact that Windows
works on desktops built before the first release of iOS ever shipped.

What would be more appropriate is to compare mobile platforms instead.

Here's a fair comparison, is it not?
a. Tell us what the oldest iOS is that the newest Safari loads & works on.
b. I will look up the oldest Android that the newest Chrome does the same.

That's an objective starting point for an _adult_ discussion, is it not?
--
This comparison was requested moments ago in this adult factual thread.
*Why do Apple operating systems *just die* while all modern operating
systems last, essentially, almost forever?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/T_-7sEITUKs>

In article <tcpe4s$1vpt$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

> Windows 10
> will still work just fine on desktops built before iOS even existed.

no it doesn't. at best it's very, very slow and not the latest version
either.

15 year old pcs no longer get win10 updates, stopping around 1903 or so
(give or take), which has been eol'ed and is no longer supported by
microsoft.

<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-190
3-end-of-servicing>
Windows 10, version 1903 will reach the end of service on December 8,
2020.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <tcpe4s$1vpt$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
> <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Windows 10
>> will still work just fine on desktops built before iOS even existed.
>
> no it doesn't. at best it's very, very slow and not the latest version
> either.
>
> 15 year old pcs no longer get win10 updates, stopping around 1903 or so
> (give or take), which has been eol'ed and is no longer supported by
> microsoft.
>
> <https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-190
> 3-end-of-servicing>
> Windows 10, version 1903 will reach the end of service on December 8,
> 2020.
>
I think this has gotten far afield from the OP which was narrowly about how
long after iOS 16 is released will phones stuck with iOS 15 be supported
with updates. Some might not want the iPhone 13 yet not want to wait
through the buzz over iPhone 14 dying down after its release.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <tcpe4s$1vpt$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
> <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Windows 10
>> will still work just fine on desktops built before iOS even existed.
>
> no it doesn't. at best it's very, very slow and not the latest version
> either.
>
> 15 year old pcs no longer get win10 updates, stopping around 1903 or so
> (give or take), which has been eol'ed and is no longer supported by
> microsoft.
>
> <https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-190
> 3-end-of-servicing>
> Windows 10, version 1903 will reach the end of service on December 8,
> 2020.
>
Server hiccups.

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <tcpe4s$1vpt$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
>> <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Windows 10
>>> will still work just fine on desktops built before iOS even existed.
>>
>> no it doesn't. at best it's very, very slow and not the latest version
>> either.
>>
>> 15 year old pcs no longer get win10 updates, stopping around 1903 or so
>> (give or take), which has been eol'ed and is no longer supported by
>> microsoft.
>>
>> <https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-190
>> 3-end-of-servicing>
>> Windows 10, version 1903 will reach the end of service on December 8,
>> 2020.
>>
> Server hiccups.
>
Yup!