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* Sweet 16magnusfalkirk
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 by: magnusfalkirk - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 19:56 UTC

Does anyone know if Sheppy has had the chance to do any work to update Sweet 16 to work with the latest version of MACOS? I really enjoyed using that emulator on my MacBook Pro up through MACOS 10.14. Thankfully I've got a Mac Mini, one of the first ones from 2005, so I'm running an older version of Sweet 16 on it.

To still be able to run IIGS software on my MacBook Pro I'm running SheepShaver, running OS 9, and then running the last version of Bernie to the Rescue in it. So I'm running an emulator in an emulator. What I liked about Sweet 16 is the ability to change the screen size. You can't do that with Bernie.

Thanks in advance.
Magnus

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 by: Kent Dickey - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 22:04 UTC

In article <33f31a6e-b5ca-4992-b9e3-d3c2987a9875n@googlegroups.com>,
magnusfalkirk <dean.phares@gmail.com> wrote:
>Does anyone know if Sheppy has had the chance to do any work to update
>Sweet 16 to work with the latest version of MACOS? I really enjoyed
>using that emulator on my MacBook Pro up through MACOS 10.14. Thankfully
>I've got a Mac Mini, one of the first ones from 2005, so I'm running an
>older version of Sweet 16 on it.
>
>To still be able to run IIGS software on my MacBook Pro I'm running
>SheepShaver, running OS 9, and then running the last version of Bernie
>to the Rescue in it. So I'm running an emulator in an emulator. What I
>liked about Sweet 16 is the ability to change the screen size. You can't
>do that with Bernie.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>Magnus

You could try KEGS at http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. It runs fine on Mac OS
10.13 or later. It's got some UI annoyances.

Kent

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 by: magnusfalkirk - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 00:22 UTC

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 5:04:13 PM UTC-5, Kent Dickey wrote:
> In article <33f31a6e-b5ca-4992...@googlegroups.com>,
> magnusfalkirk <dean....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Does anyone know if Sheppy has had the chance to do any work to update
> >Sweet 16 to work with the latest version of MACOS? I really enjoyed
> >using that emulator on my MacBook Pro up through MACOS 10.14. Thankfully
> >I've got a Mac Mini, one of the first ones from 2005, so I'm running an
> >older version of Sweet 16 on it.
> >
> >To still be able to run IIGS software on my MacBook Pro I'm running
> >SheepShaver, running OS 9, and then running the last version of Bernie
> >to the Rescue in it. So I'm running an emulator in an emulator. What I
> >liked about Sweet 16 is the ability to change the screen size. You can't
> >do that with Bernie.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >Magnus
> You could try KEGS at http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. It runs fine on Mac OS
> 10.13 or later. It's got some UI annoyances.
>
> Kent

I've used both KEGS and GS Plus, the biggest UI annoyance, with both of them, is that you have to mess with the Config file to load dsk images into them. With Sweet 16 you just double click on the image file and it launches the program, or if it's already running it adds the disk to the program. With Bernie, in SheepShaver, running OS 9, you click on Mount in the Drive window, and select an image. It loads the image into Bernie. So that's why I'd like to know if there is a new version of Sweet 16 coming any time soon.

Magnus

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 by: Kent Dickey - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 04:25 UTC

In article <7a702c34-6d03-4a32-a1b3-2e44366a9be9n@googlegroups.com>,
magnusfalkirk <dean.phares@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 5:04:13 PM UTC-5, Kent Dickey wrote:
>> In article <33f31a6e-b5ca-4992...@googlegroups.com>,
>> magnusfalkirk <dean....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Does anyone know if Sheppy has had the chance to do any work to update
>> >Sweet 16 to work with the latest version of MACOS? I really enjoyed
>> >using that emulator on my MacBook Pro up through MACOS 10.14. Thankfully
>> >I've got a Mac Mini, one of the first ones from 2005, so I'm running an
>> >older version of Sweet 16 on it.
>> >
>> >To still be able to run IIGS software on my MacBook Pro I'm running
>> >SheepShaver, running OS 9, and then running the last version of Bernie
>> >to the Rescue in it. So I'm running an emulator in an emulator. What I
>> >liked about Sweet 16 is the ability to change the screen size. You can't
>> >do that with Bernie.
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance.
>> >Magnus
>> You could try KEGS at http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. It runs fine on Mac OS
>> 10.13 or later. It's got some UI annoyances.
>>
>> Kent
>
>
>I've used both KEGS and GS Plus, the biggest UI annoyance, with both of
>them, is that you have to mess with the Config file to load dsk images
>into them. With Sweet 16 you just double click on the image file and it
>launches the program, or if it's already running it adds the disk to the
>program. With Bernie, in SheepShaver, running OS 9, you click on Mount
>in the Drive window, and select an image. It loads the image into
>Bernie. So that's why I'd like to know if there is a new version of
>Sweet 16 coming any time soon.
>
>Magnus

In KEGS, you never need to touch the config file manually. You can do
everything through the built-in menu system (it looks like ShrinkIt's menus)
you get when you press F4. Press F4, select Disk Configuration, then select
which drive (say, s6d2), and then an ShrinkIt-style file selection dialog
selects the image. Pressing a letter key jumps to that position in the list.
This is not as nice as double-clicking images, I'll admit.

As for making it so that double-clicking the image opens it: I don't know
how to implement this on current Mac OS X. If someone could
assist me with this, that would be helpful (even just pointing me to the
documentation would be great). I know how this used to work 15 years ago,
(special fields in Info.plist) but it's all different now.

Kent

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 by: I am Rob - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 05:02 UTC

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 1:56:34 PM UTC-6, magnusfalkirk wrote:
> Does anyone know if Sheppy has had the chance to do any work to update Sweet 16 to work with the latest version of MACOS?

I am running the latest SWEET16 (v 3.0.3) on MacOS 10.13 with no problems.

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 by: magnusfalkirk - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 19:14 UTC

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 12:02:10 AM UTC-5, I am Rob wrote:
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 1:56:34 PM UTC-6, magnusfalkirk wrote:
> > Does anyone know if Sheppy has had the chance to do any work to update Sweet 16 to work with the latest version of MACOS?
> I am running the latest SWEET16 (v 3.0.3) on MacOS 10.13 with no problems.

I was able to run Sweet 16 3.0.3 up through MacOS 10.14, but when 10.15 cam out Sweet 16 no longer ran and it definitely doesn't run on 11.4.

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 by: magnusfalkirk - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 19:51 UTC

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 11:26:01 PM UTC-5, Kent Dickey wrote:
> In article <7a702c34-6d03-4a32...@googlegroups.com>,
> magnusfalkirk <dean....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 5:04:13 PM UTC-5, Kent Dickey wrote:
> >> In article <33f31a6e-b5ca-4992...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> magnusfalkirk <dean....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Does anyone know if Sheppy has had the chance to do any work to update
> >> >Sweet 16 to work with the latest version of MACOS? I really enjoyed
> >> >using that emulator on my MacBook Pro up through MACOS 10.14. Thankfully
> >> >I've got a Mac Mini, one of the first ones from 2005, so I'm running an
> >> >older version of Sweet 16 on it.
> >> >
> >> >To still be able to run IIGS software on my MacBook Pro I'm running
> >> >SheepShaver, running OS 9, and then running the last version of Bernie
> >> >to the Rescue in it. So I'm running an emulator in an emulator. What I
> >> >liked about Sweet 16 is the ability to change the screen size. You can't
> >> >do that with Bernie.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks in advance.
> >> >Magnus
> >> You could try KEGS at http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. It runs fine on Mac OS
> >> 10.13 or later. It's got some UI annoyances.
> >>
> >> Kent
> >
> >
> >I've used both KEGS and GS Plus, the biggest UI annoyance, with both of
> >them, is that you have to mess with the Config file to load dsk images
> >into them. With Sweet 16 you just double click on the image file and it
> >launches the program, or if it's already running it adds the disk to the
> >program. With Bernie, in SheepShaver, running OS 9, you click on Mount
> >in the Drive window, and select an image. It loads the image into
> >Bernie. So that's why I'd like to know if there is a new version of
> >Sweet 16 coming any time soon.
> >
> >Magnus
> In KEGS, you never need to touch the config file manually. You can do
> everything through the built-in menu system (it looks like ShrinkIt's menus)
> you get when you press F4. Press F4, select Disk Configuration, then select
> which drive (say, s6d2), and then an ShrinkIt-style file selection dialog
> selects the image. Pressing a letter key jumps to that position in the list.
> This is not as nice as double-clicking images, I'll admit.
>
> As for making it so that double-clicking the image opens it: I don't know
> how to implement this on current Mac OS X. If someone could
> assist me with this, that would be helpful (even just pointing me to the
> documentation would be great). I know how this used to work 15 years ago,
> (special fields in Info.plist) but it's all different now.
>
> Kent

In Kegs using the menu system is still more cumbersome than just being able to double click on the disk image, at least to me. Especially if you decide you want to open another disk image. You have to go back into the config.menu and go find your image and add it to the config. I don't know if you've ever looked at Sweet 16, http://www.sheppyware.net/software-mac/sweet16/ , but you might take a look and see if it can give you some help.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to knock Kegs, once you have the config.menu set the way you want it it works fine. I just find Sweet 16's way of mounting images easier.

Magnus

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 by: Kent Dickey - Sun, 27 Jun 2021 01:36 UTC

In article <0664dcde-3b87-47a7-b214-2828b5d75540n@googlegroups.com>,
magnusfalkirk <dean.phares@gmail.com> wrote:
>In Kegs using the menu system is still more cumbersome than just being
>able to double click on the disk image, at least to me. Especially if
>you decide you want to open another disk image. You have to go back into
>the config.menu and go find your image and add it to the config. I don't
>know if you've ever looked at Sweet 16,
>http://www.sheppyware.net/software-mac/sweet16/ , but you might take a
>look and see if it can give you some help.
>
>Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to knock Kegs, once you have the
>config.menu set the way you want it it works fine. I just find Sweet
>16's way of mounting images easier.
>
>Magnus

I tried looking there, and I do not see the source code for Sweet16. It
was my understanding that no source code is available. If it is, can you
give a more precise link?

Kent

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