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* Has everyone died?The Natural Philosopher
+- Re: Has everyone died?kyonshi
+* Re: Has everyone died?immibis
|+* Re: Has everyone died?D
||+* Re: Has everyone died?nev young
|||`- Re: Has everyone died?D
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||+* Re: Has everyone died?Andy Burns
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||+* Re: Has everyone died?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
|||`* Re: Has everyone died?immibis
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||| |`* Re: Has everyone died?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
||| | +* Re: Has everyone died?Computer Nerd Kev
||| | |`- Re: Has everyone died?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
||| | +- Re: Has everyone died?immibis
||| | `* Re: Has everyone died?TimS
||| |  `- Re: Has everyone died?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
||| `- Re: Has everyone died?John McCue
||`* Videoplayer for a Raspberry 3a+ (was: Has everyone died?)Andreas Kohlbach
|| `* Re: Videoplayer for a Raspberry 3a+Pancho
||  `* Re: Videoplayer for a Raspberry 3a+Andreas Kohlbach
||   `* Re: Videoplayer for a Raspberry 3a+Pancho
||    `* Re: Videoplayer for a Raspberry 3a+Andreas Kohlbach
||     `- Re: Videoplayer for a Raspberry 3a+Pancho
|`* Re: Has everyone died?Joerg Lorenz
| +* Re: Has everyone died?The Natural Philosopher
| |`- Re: Has everyone died?68g.1499
| `- Re: Has everyone died?Jack Strangio
+* Re: Has everyone died?John McCue
|`* Re: Has everyone died?Andy Burns
| `* Re: Has everyone died?kyonshi
|  `* Re: Has everyone died?Andy Burns
|   +- Re: Has everyone died?kyonshi
|   `- Re: Has everyone died?Charlie Gibbs
+- Re: Has everyone died?rek2 hispagatos
+- Re: Has everyone died?Michael Uplawski
+- Re: Has everyone died?Michael Uplawski
`* Re: Has everyone died?Another Dave
 `* Re: Has everyone died?The Natural Philosopher
  `* Re: Has everyone died?Another Dave
   `* Re: Has everyone died?The Natural Philosopher
    +* Re: Has everyone died?Computer Nerd Kev
    |`- Re: Has everyone died?The Natural Philosopher
    +* Re: Has everyone died?Bob Martin
    |`* Re: Has everyone died?Andy Burns
    | +- Re: Has everyone died?Andy Burns
    | `* Re: Has everyone died?Ahem A Rivet's Shot
    |  `* Re: Has everyone died?Andy Burns
    |   `- Re: Has everyone died?Ahem A Rivet's Shot
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From: tnp...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 12:06 UTC

Gone extremely quiet..

--
“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools.”

Herbert Spencer

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From: gmke...@gmail.com (kyonshi)
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 by: kyonshi - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 12:18 UTC

On 1/25/2024 1:06 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Gone extremely quiet..
>

yes.

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 by: immibis - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:33 UTC

On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Gone extremely quiet..

Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
the world.

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 by: D - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:54 UTC

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, immibis wrote:

> On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> Gone extremely quiet..
>
> Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in the
> world.
>

I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.

But I'll shoot in a new question!

I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
underpowered for kodi. The reason I choose that model is that it fits.
Due to the big port module on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.

Does anyone know of something similar to the 3a+ but in modern form with a
bit more power and cpu?

Sadly the raspberry 4 and 5 seem to double down on the big form factor and
it is too big to fit behind my tv. =(

Best regards,
Daniel

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 by: nev young - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:13 UTC

On 25/01/2024 13:54, D wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, immibis wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> Gone extremely quiet..
>>
>> Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
>> the world.
>>
>
> I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.
>
> But I'll shoot in a new question!
>
> I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
> underpowered for kodi. The reason I choose that model is that it fits.
> Due to the big port module on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.
>
> Does anyone know of something similar to the 3a+ but in modern form with
> a bit more power and cpu?
>
> Sadly the raspberry 4 and 5 seem to double down on the big form factor
> and it is too big to fit behind my tv. =(
>
Pi Zero 2w perhaps.

--
Nev
It causes me a great deal of regret and remorse
that so many people are unable to understand what I write.

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 by: John McCue - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:00 UTC

Follow-ups trimmed to: comp.os.linux.misc

In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Gone extremely quiet..

I think the google groups filter is working, so google group
people goes to the bit bitbucket in the sky :)

--
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- Paraphrasing Star Wars

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:06 UTC

Am 25.01.2024 schrieb D <nospam@example.net>:

> But I'll shoot in a new question!

Please do that in a new thread.

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 by: rek2 hispagatos - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:16 UTC

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
On 2024-01-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Gone extremely quiet..
>

no Spam, good :) we are around, reading :)

Happy Hacking
ReK2

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 by: Andy Burns - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:59 UTC

John McCue wrote:

> Follow-ups trimmed to: comp.os.linux.misc

Replying only to: comp.sys.raspberry-pi

> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Gone extremely quiet..
>
> I think the google groups filter is working

There's no general G2 filter, the various news server admins worked hard
to just filter spam from G2, instead of everything. Individual users
may have their own filter, mine marks-as-read messages from G2 users who
aren't whitelisted, but it also tags them, so I can spot new candidates
for my whitelist.

It turns out that in the rPi group there's only been one G2 user
(Nelson) since october (not counting gmail users who don't use G2).

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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 16:29 UTC

On 25.01.24 14:33, immibis wrote:
> On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> Gone extremely quiet..
>
> Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
> the world.

Nonsense.

--
"Manus manum lavat."

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 16:31 UTC

On 25/01/2024 16:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> On 25.01.24 14:33, immibis wrote:
>> On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> Gone extremely quiet..
>>
>> Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
>> the world.
>
> Nonsense.
>
What happened is that all those AOL people moved to twatter and faecesbook

--
Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
But Marxism is the crack cocaine.

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 by: kyonshi - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 17:54 UTC

On 1/25/2024 4:59 PM, Andy Burns wrote:

>
> It turns out that in the rPi group there's only been one G2 user
> (Nelson) since october (not counting gmail users who don't use G2).
>

lots of people just use gmail because it's convenient

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 by: Andy Burns - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:11 UTC

kyonshi wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>>
>> It turns out that in the rPi group there's only been one G2 user
>> (Nelson) since october (not counting gmail users who don't use G2).
>
> lots of people just use gmail because it's convenient

yes, but plenty of people who have a gmail address use real nntp servers
instead of google groups, some folks elsewhere concocted their own
filters binning everyone matching
from:*@gmail.com
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message-id:*@googlegroups.com

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 by: kyonshi - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:17 UTC

On 1/25/2024 7:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> kyonshi wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It turns out that in the rPi group there's only been one G2 user
>>> (Nelson) since october (not counting gmail users who don't use G2).
>>
>> lots of people just use gmail because it's convenient
>
> yes, but plenty of people who have a gmail address use real nntp servers
> instead of google groups, some folks elsewhere concocted their own
> filters binning everyone matching
> from:*@gmail.com
> instead of
> message-id:*@googlegroups.com
>
>

that's what I mean. I did see some people earnestly discuss just
filtering every gmail.com address when the usenet improvement project
came around.

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 by: Charlie Gibbs - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:37 UTC

On 2024-01-25, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> kyonshi wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It turns out that in the rPi group there's only been one G2 user
>>> (Nelson) since october (not counting gmail users who don't use G2).
>>
>> lots of people just use gmail because it's convenient

Yes, and as we all know, convenience trumps everything: cost, efficiency,
security, even personal safety. (The latter might not apply to Usenet,
but it does to things like the 737 MAX.)

> yes, but plenty of people who have a gmail address use real nntp servers
> instead of google groups, some folks elsewhere concocted their own
> filters binning everyone matching
> from:*@gmail.com
> instead of
> message-id:*@googlegroups.com

I've found that the massive flood of spam which has hit many newsgroups
contains a tell-tale "Injection-Info" header. I use slrn, and by adding
stanzas like the following to ~/News/Source:

[comp.*.*]
Score: =-9999
Expires: 9/14/2024
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I lose all the spam while still seeing legitimate messages
from gmail vict^H^H^H^Husers.

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | The Internet is like a big city:
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | it has plenty of bright lights and
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | excitement, but also dark alleys
/ \ if you read it the right way. | down which the unwary get mugged.

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 by: Andy Burns - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:39 UTC

D wrote:

> I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
> underpowered for kodi.

I have a Pi 3Bv1.2 and found it was pretty good as a TV front-end

> The reason I choose that model is that it fits.
> Due to the big port module on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.

Dunno about the space, must be pretty tight behind your TV if a couple
of usb/eth ports stop it fitting?

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 by: D - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 19:01 UTC

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, nev young wrote:

> On 25/01/2024 13:54, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, immibis wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> Gone extremely quiet..
>>>
>>> Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in the
>>> world.
>>>
>>
>> I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.
>>
>> But I'll shoot in a new question!
>>
>> I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
>> underpowered for kodi. The reason I choose that model is that it fits. Due
>> to the big port module on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.
>>
>> Does anyone know of something similar to the 3a+ but in modern form with a
>> bit more power and cpu?
>>
>> Sadly the raspberry 4 and 5 seem to double down on the big form factor and
>> it is too big to fit behind my tv. =(
>>
> Pi Zero 2w perhaps.

Not powerful enough I'm afraid, but thank you for the tip.

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 by: D - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 19:05 UTC

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Andy Burns wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>> I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
>> underpowered for kodi.
>
> I have a Pi 3Bv1.2 and found it was pretty good as a TV front-end
>
>> The reason I choose that model is that it fits. Due to the big port module
>> on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.
>
> Dunno about the space, must be pretty tight behind your TV if a couple of
> usb/eth ports stop it fitting?

Correct. I have a very flat Oled tv and power sockets in the middle of the
wall, so I have about 1 cm or so between the tv and the wall. Just enough
for an 3a+.

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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 22:07 UTC

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:54:29 +0100, D wrote:

> I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.

In the old USENET, that would never have happened ...

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 by: Andreas Kohlbach - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 01:18 UTC

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:54:29 +0100, D wrote:
>
> I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
> underpowered for kodi. The reason I choose that model is that it
> fits. Due to the big port module on a 3b those bigger boards don't
> fit.
>
> Does anyone know of something similar to the 3a+ but in modern form
> with a bit more power and cpu?
>
> Sadly the raspberry 4 and 5 seem to double down on the big form factor
> and it is too big to fit behind my tv. =(

Suppose the Kodi GUI is a little obese? Then try a different
player. Install mpv for example. It doesn't even has a GUI. But front
ends exists if it does the job.
--
Andreas

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 by: immibis - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 02:42 UTC

On 1/25/24 23:07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:54:29 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.
>
> In the old USENET, that would never have happened ...

Did you hear there was drama about window icons?

A GNOME developer wants applications to register their icon in their
..desktop file. An application which uses several different window icons
must register several different .desktop files in the system
applications list.

Everyone else says: no, that's a really stupid idea.

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 by: 68g.1499 - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 03:55 UTC

On 1/25/24 11:31 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 25/01/2024 16:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 25.01.24 14:33, immibis wrote:
>>> On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> Gone extremely quiet..
>>>
>>> Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
>>> the world.
>>
>> Nonsense.
>>
> What happened is that all those AOL people moved to twatter and faecesbook

And ALL FOR THE BETTER !!! :-)

Though we still have our share of trolls/idiots.

Ah, cleaning out my office, found a Kodak #2a Autographic Junior
(130 film) a #1 Junior (120 film) and a couple of other folders.
Bellows look OK, but could spray black plastic 'rubber' inside
if there are any pinholes. Also a Kodak brown bakelite box
Brownie (620).

Found a vid on YT ... some guy took a #2a and made trick spools
and a mask augment so it'd work with 120 as a panoramic cam.
The 130 was a bit wider, ergo the need. He even took some pix
with it, not TOO bad considering the crude lens/shutter. 130
was "postcard size" around WW-1. Can't find the ISO ... maybe
100 ? Shutter speeds are 1/25 and 1/50

The Autographic is interesting - a small long hatch in the back
JUST big enough for a writ one-line note/date - which would get
burned into the edge of the neg.

Oh, one cam says "N.C. Cartridge 120" ... but extensive searching
does not explain what that IS. The "Cartridge" might just mean "roll",
not the pre-formed plastic cartridges more popular in the 60s/70s
InstaMatics).

All the folder cams were kinda 1915-1925 vintage plus or minus.
Must have found them in junk shops and then forgotten.

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 by: Michael Uplawski - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 05:19 UTC

Good morning

The Natural Philosopher wrote in comp.sys.raspberry-pi,comp.os.linux.misc:
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> Gone extremely quiet..

Most would not know, but I have always been here. That does not make it a
crowd, but I might add another definition of dying (as in “has everyone
died?”).
Having nothing to contribute, I try to keep quiet. But that is not all.

When you notice that you can put the inverser to neutral while descending
backwards with a trailer full of firewood attached to your tractor, because the
darned thing is mounted too low and your knee touches it all the time.., or
when that tree was hollow and rotated upon the first touch with the chainsaw,
when the most intelligent fox in the world is the one watching your chicken..,

then this dead dumb machine just loses a lot of its charm. Nothing that I can
do with it is important. None of it is beautiful in most senses of the
expression and probably bereft of all utility, anyway.

Cheerio

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 by: Michael Uplawski - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 05:22 UTC

Supersedes for negation.

Good morning

The Natural Philosopher wrote in comp.sys.raspberry-pi,comp.os.linux.misc:
>
> Gone extremely quiet..

Most would not know, but I have always been here. That does not make it a
crowd, but I might add another definition of dying (as in “has everyone
died?”).
Having nothing to contribute, I try to keep quiet. But that is not all.

When you notice that you can put the inverser to neutral while descending
backwards with a trailer full of firewood attached to your tractor, because the
darned thing is mounted too low and your knee touches it all the time.., or
when that tree was hollow and rotated upon the first touch with the chainsaw,
when the most intelligent fox in the world is the one watching your chicken..,

then this dead dumb machine just loses a lot of its charm. Nothing that I can
do with it is important. None of it is beautiful in most senses of the
expression and all is probably bereft of all utility, anyway.

Cheerio

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 by: TimS - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:31 UTC

On 26 Jan 2024 at 02:42:07 GMT, "immibis" <news@immibis.com> wrote:

> On 1/25/24 23:07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:54:29 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.
>>
>> In the old USENET, that would never have happened ...
>
> Did you hear there was drama about window icons?
>
> A GNOME developer wants applications to register their icon in their
> .desktop file. An application which uses several different window icons
> must register several different .desktop files in the system
> applications list.
>
> Everyone else says: no, that's a really stupid idea.

.... along with the .desktop files themselves.

--
Tim

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