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 by: Thomas E. - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 04:58 UTC

All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major improvement over the HP.

Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files, installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.

The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9 processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac. Both are awesome.

And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but my hub has 4 vacant slots.

And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an equivalent, is on here.

The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local high school for the spring semester.

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 by: Alan - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 05:16 UTC

On 2021-12-01 8:58 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and
> other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run
> under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is?
> Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is a joy to use.
> Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard has a different
> feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major improvement over the
> HP.
>
> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item now is
> to recreate the Outlook signature files.

You had to recreate items? When you "copied over the data files"?

How 1990s.

>
> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9 processor
> yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac. Both are
> awesome.
>
> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB hub
> will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but my hub
> has 4 vacant slots.

And the implication that you would not have been "dongle/adapter-free"
is what?

>
> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> equivalent, is on here.

I bet Apple Mail isn't on it.

>
> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local high
> school for the spring semester.
>

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 by: Thomas E. - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 12:32 UTC

On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 12:16:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-01 8:58 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> > All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and
> > other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run
> > under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is?
> > Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is a joy to use.
> > Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard has a different
> > feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major improvement over the
> > HP.
> >
> > Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> > installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item now is
> > to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> You had to recreate items? When you "copied over the data files"?
>
> How 1990s.
> >
> > The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9 processor
> > yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac. Both are
> > awesome.
> >
> > And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> > dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB hub
> > will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but my hub
> > has 4 vacant slots.
> And the implication that you would not have been "dongle/adapter-free"
> is what?
> >
> > And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> > equivalent, is on here.
> I bet Apple Mail isn't on it.
> >
> > The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local high
> > school for the spring semester.
> >

Wrong yet again

Equivalents - Windows Mail and Outlook

More desperation.

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 by: Thomas E. - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 12:52 UTC

On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 12:16:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-01 8:58 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> > All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and
> > other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run
> > under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is?
> > Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is a joy to use.
> > Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard has a different
> > feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major improvement over the
> > HP.
> >
> > Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> > installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item now is
> > to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> You had to recreate items? When you "copied over the data files"?
>
> How 1990s.
> >
> > The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9 processor
> > yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac. Both are
> > awesome.
> >
> > And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> > dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB hub
> > will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but my hub
> > has 4 vacant slots.
> And the implication that you would not have been "dongle/adapter-free"
> is what?

I had a USB A/USB C dongle for the USB hub on both the Mac and the Dell until I found a cable on Amazon that I did not know existed. It's USB B 3.1 male to USB C male. Never needed anything like that on the HP. Another learning experience.

> >
> > And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> > equivalent, is on here.
> I bet Apple Mail isn't on it.
> >
> > The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local high
> > school for the spring semester.
> >

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 by: -hh - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 13:32 UTC

On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and other general
> use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run under load. Battery life is
> nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is? Dell overall quality is about the same.
> The trackpad is a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major improvement over the HP.

So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?

>
> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files, installed the apps,
> and logged into all my accounts. Last item now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
>
> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9 processor yields a user
> experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac. Both are awesome.
>
> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a dongle/adapter-free
> computer. The power supply, monitor and USB hub will all be USB C. All 3
> onboard USB ports will be used, but my hub has 4 vacant slots.

For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull in order to
carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto the empty hub.

> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an equivalent,
> is on here.

Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license agreement to expire
in early 2022 before they can officially support W11 to the Apple silicone.

> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local high school
> for the spring semester.

That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk from the new PC.

-hh

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On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is?

You have a few long battery life options that compete with apple, if it's something desired.

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 by: Steven Carrolll - fr - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 21:32 UTC

On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 6:32:32 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and other general
> > use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run under load. Battery life is
> > nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is? Dell overall quality is about the same.
> > The trackpad is a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> > has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major improvement over the HP.
> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> >
> > Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files, installed the apps,
> > and logged into all my accounts. Last item now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> >
> > The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9 processor yields a user
> > experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac. Both are awesome.
> >
> > And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a dongle/adapter-free
> > computer. The power supply, monitor and USB hub will all be USB C. All 3
> > onboard USB ports will be used, but my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull in order to
> carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto the empty hub.
> > And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an equivalent,
> > is on here.
> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license agreement to expire
> in early 2022 before they can officially support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> > The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local high school
> > for the spring semester.
> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk from the new PC.
>
> -hh

I have a program I use as well, but it's a bit different. Any horrendously
wounded sleep deprived whacko could easily do the same. Now that nobody
is responding to David Shill Brooks, he's making it sound like he's gotten
what he wants -- when in fact, people are just sick of his shit. David
Shill Brooks claims that he uses Windows, while you know he never used
it on anything but an emulator and really experienced it.

I just configured a kill filter and do not see the flooding. David Shill
Brooks's attack has made a veritable mess of usenet via Google Groups,
so I don't even bother trolling the group with my phone anymore. One good
thing he has succeeded at with this crap is that the David Shill Brooks
ban will never be lifted.

--
This broke the Internet
https://swisscows.com/web?query=steve%20carroll%20%22narcissistic%20bigot%22
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=steve+carroll+narcissistic+bigot
Steve Carroll the Narcissistic Bigot

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On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and other general
> > use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run under load. Battery life is
> > nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is? Dell overall quality is about the same.
> > The trackpad is a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> > has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major improvement over the HP.
> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> >
> > Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files, installed the apps,
> > and logged into all my accounts. Last item now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> >
> > The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9 processor yields a user
> > experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac. Both are awesome.
> >
> > And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a dongle/adapter-free
> > computer. The power supply, monitor and USB hub will all be USB C. All 3
> > onboard USB ports will be used, but my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull in order to
> carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto the empty hub.
> > And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an equivalent,
> > is on here.
> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license agreement to expire
> in early 2022 before they can officially support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> > The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local high school
> > for the spring semester.
> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk from the new PC.
>
> -hh

Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours. The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8 hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.

Interesting on the ARM front. We will see!

Will DisplayPort run off a Hub? The other two are the hub and power.

I hear you 5 by 5 on reliability. I have all data files backed up locally and on OneDrive. The HP is on indefinite loan, and I can get it back. I stripped all the personal apps and data file. It would take a few hours to restore all that.

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On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:06:21 PM UTC-5, ed wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is?
> You have a few long battery life options that compete with apple, if it's something desired.

I'm good with 7-8 hours. The UHD video is something to behold.

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On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 7:27:04 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing and other general
> > > use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans do run under load. Battery life is
> > > nowhere near the M1 Mac, but what is? Dell overall quality is about the same.
> > > The trackpad is a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> > > has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major improvement over the HP.
> > So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> > >
> > > Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files, installed the apps,
> > > and logged into all my accounts. Last item now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> > >
> > > The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9 processor yields a user
> > > experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac. Both are awesome.
> > >
> > > And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a dongle/adapter-free
> > > computer. The power supply, monitor and USB hub will all be USB C. All 3
> > > onboard USB ports will be used, but my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> > For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull in order to
> > carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto the empty hub.
> > > And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an equivalent,
> > > is on here.
> > Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license agreement to expire
> > in early 2022 before they can officially support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> > > The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local high school
> > > for the spring semester.
> > That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk from the new PC.
>
>
> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook Pro. Tom's
> Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours. The 9510 tested
> with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8 hours. Still a full day,
> but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is that about 10 screws hold
> the battery in and it's userreplaceable.

I’ve generally found all battery tests to be fairly optimistic. Plus it seems
that when one really needs battery life, there’s never enough. Case in point,
a long airport layover with limited access to power…”ah, my seat has a plug,
so I can drain it here…” is when that seat power plug is broken.

>
> Interesting on the ARM front. We will see!
>
> Will DisplayPort run off a Hub? The other two are the hub and power.

A good hub will.

This one will do dual 4K monitors, or a single 5K up to 8K:

< https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-thunderbolt-dock>

> I hear you 5 by 5 on reliability. I have all data files backed up locally
> and on OneDrive. The HP is on indefinite loan, and I can get it back.
> I stripped all the personal apps and data file. It would take a few
> hours to restore all that.

A few friends professionally do IT support in education; expect it to
get beat up pretty quick.

-hh

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On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>> wrote:
>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
>>> improvement over the HP.
>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
>>>
>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
>>>
>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
>>> Both are awesome.
>>>
>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
>> the empty hub.
>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
>>> equivalent, is on here.
>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
>>> high school for the spring semester.
>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
>> from the new PC.
>>
>> -hh
>
> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable. [sic]

Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?

That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.

And then there's this:

'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
battery.'

<https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>

Care to explain?

>
> Interesting on the ARM front. We will see!
>
> Will DisplayPort run off a Hub? The other two are the hub and power.

It seems the sort of thing you should have investigated beforehand, Idiot.

>
> I hear you 5 by 5 on reliability. I have all data files backed up
> locally and on OneDrive. The HP is on indefinite loan, and I can get
> it back. I stripped all the personal apps and data file. It would
> take a few hours to restore all that.

What's your backup software, Idiot? Please tell me it's not what
Microsoft offers in Settings for Windows 10 (and I assume 11, although I
cannot claim actual experience with Windows 11 backup yet).

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On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> >> wrote:
> >>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
> >>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
> >>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
> >>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
> >>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> >>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
> >>> improvement over the HP.
> >> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> >>>
> >>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> >>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
> >>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> >>>
> >>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
> >>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
> >>> Both are awesome.
> >>>
> >>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> >>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
> >>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
> >>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> >> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
> >> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
> >> the empty hub.
> >>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> >>> equivalent, is on here.
> >> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
> >> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
> >> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> >>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
> >>> high school for the spring semester.
> >> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
> >> from the new PC.
> >>
> >> -hh
> >
> > Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
> > Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
> > The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
> > hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
> > that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable. [sic]
>
> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
>
> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
>
> And then there's this:
>
> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
> battery.'
>
> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
>
> Care to explain?
> >
> > Interesting on the ARM front. We will see!
> >
> > Will DisplayPort run off a Hub? The other two are the hub and power.
> It seems the sort of thing you should have investigated beforehand, Idiot..
> >
> > I hear you 5 by 5 on reliability. I have all data files backed up
> > locally and on OneDrive. The HP is on indefinite loan, and I can get
> > it back. I stripped all the personal apps and data file. It would
> > take a few hours to restore all that.
> What's your backup software, Idiot? Please tell me it's not what
> Microsoft offers in Settings for Windows 10 (and I assume 11, although I
> cannot claim actual experience with Windows 11 backup yet).

I knew that the 3 USB ports on the Dell were all I needed. Just asking a simple question, asshole.

OneDrive offline, File History local drive, the Windows 7 system with total C: drive selected on local drive, and a Windows Image done yesterday on local drive, asshole.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 18:09 UTC

On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
>>>>> improvement over the HP.
>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
>>>>>
>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
>>>>>
>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
>>>>> Both are awesome.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
>>>> the empty hub.
>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
>>>> from the new PC.
>>>>
>>>> -hh
>>>
>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable. [sic]
>>
>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
>>
>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
>>
>> And then there's this:
>>
>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
>> battery.'
>>
>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
>>
>> Care to explain?

As I expected...

What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?

It must be production run of one.

:-)

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 by: John - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 18:22 UTC

On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
>>>>>> Both are awesome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
>>>>> the empty hub.
>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
>>>>> from the new PC.
>>>>>
>>>>> -hh
>>>>
>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.
>>>> [sic]
>>>
>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
>>>
>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
>>>
>>> And then there's this:
>>>
>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
>>> battery.'
>>>
>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
>>>
>>>
>>> Care to explain?
>
> As I expected...
>
> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
>
> It must be production run of one.
>
> :-)

I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016. When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
the battery could be replaced without too much effort. Just have to
take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it. Would be
considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
and am sure I could do it.

Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 18:27 UTC

On 2021-12-03 10:22 a.m., John wrote:
> On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
>>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
>>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
>>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
>>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
>>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
>>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
>>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
>>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
>>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
>>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
>>>>>>> Both are awesome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
>>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
>>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
>>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
>>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
>>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
>>>>>> the empty hub.
>>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
>>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
>>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
>>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
>>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
>>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
>>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
>>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
>>>>>> from the new PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>
>>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
>>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
>>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
>>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
>>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.
>>>>> [sic]
>>>>
>>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
>>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
>>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
>>>>
>>>> And then there's this:
>>>>
>>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
>>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
>>>> battery.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Care to explain?
>>
>> As I expected...
>>
>> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
>>
>> It must be production run of one.
>>
>> :-)
>
> I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016.   When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
> the battery could be replaced without too much effort.  Just have to
> take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it.  Would be
> considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
> and am sure I could do it.
>
> Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.

The Idiot's implicit claim was that he could deal with too short battery
life by swapping batteries...

....and that's why he's also known as "Liarboy".

:-)

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 by: John - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 18:28 UTC

On 12/3/21 10:22 AM, John wrote:
> On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
>>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
>>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
>>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
>>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
>>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
>>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
>>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
>>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
>>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
>>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
>>>>>>> Both are awesome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
>>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
>>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
>>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
>>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
>>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
>>>>>> the empty hub.
>>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
>>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
>>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
>>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
>>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
>>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
>>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
>>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
>>>>>> from the new PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>
>>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
>>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
>>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
>>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
>>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.
>>>>> [sic]
>>>>
>>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
>>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
>>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
>>>>
>>>> And then there's this:
>>>>
>>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
>>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
>>>> battery.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Care to explain?
>>
>> As I expected...
>>
>> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
>>
>> It must be production run of one.
>>
>> :-)
>
> I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016.   When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
> the battery could be replaced without too much effort.  Just have to
> take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it.  Would be
> considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
> and am sure I could do it.
>
> Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.

One more thing. Some jackass companies(like Tesla) embed ID chips in
their products. So as to make you buy replacement parts only from them.
Dell may also. If the battery were to have an embedded ID chip in it it
may actually require a certified technician to "program" its replacement
to be recognized. Don't know that to be the case but battery
replacement "looks" simple enough.

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 by: Thomas E. - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:15 UTC

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:09:16 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
> >>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
> >>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
> >>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
> >>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> >>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
> >>>>> improvement over the HP.
> >>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> >>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
> >>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
> >>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
> >>>>> Both are awesome.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> >>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
> >>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
> >>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> >>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
> >>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
> >>>> the empty hub.
> >>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> >>>>> equivalent, is on here.
> >>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
> >>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
> >>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> >>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
> >>>>> high school for the spring semester.
> >>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
> >>>> from the new PC.
> >>>>
> >>>> -hh
> >>>
> >>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
> >>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
> >>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
> >>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
> >>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable. [sic]
> >>
> >> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
> >> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
> >>
> >> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
> >> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
> >>
> >> And then there's this:
> >>
> >> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
> >> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
> >> battery.'
> >>
> >> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
> >>
> >> Care to explain?
> As I expected...
>
> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
>
> It must be production run of one.
>
> :-)

XPS 9510. 15 refers to the screen size, asshole

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 by: Thomas E. - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:17 UTC

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:27:57 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-03 10:22 a.m., John wrote:
> > On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
> >>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
> >>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
> >>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
> >>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> >>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
> >>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
> >>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> >>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
> >>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
> >>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
> >>>>>>> Both are awesome.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> >>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
> >>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
> >>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> >>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
> >>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
> >>>>>> the empty hub.
> >>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> >>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
> >>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
> >>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
> >>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> >>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
> >>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
> >>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
> >>>>>> from the new PC.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
> >>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
> >>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
> >>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
> >>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.
> >>>>> [sic]
> >>>>
> >>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
> >>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
> >>>>
> >>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
> >>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
> >>>>
> >>>> And then there's this:
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
> >>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
> >>>> battery.'
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Care to explain?
> >>
> >> As I expected...
> >>
> >> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
> >>
> >> It must be production run of one.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >
> > I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016. When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
> > the battery could be replaced without too much effort. Just have to
> > take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it. Would be
> > considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
> > and am sure I could do it.
> >
> > Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.
> The Idiot's implicit claim was that he could deal with too short battery
> life by swapping batteries...
>
> ...and that's why he's also known as "Liarboy".
>
> :-)

No asshole, it was a swipe at Apple's relatively difficult battery replacements in some recent devices.

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 by: Thomas E. - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:21 UTC

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> On 12/3/21 10:22 AM, John wrote:
> > On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
> >>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
> >>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
> >>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
> >>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> >>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
> >>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
> >>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> >>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
> >>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
> >>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
> >>>>>>> Both are awesome.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> >>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
> >>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
> >>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> >>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
> >>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
> >>>>>> the empty hub.
> >>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> >>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
> >>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
> >>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
> >>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> >>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
> >>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
> >>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
> >>>>>> from the new PC.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
> >>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
> >>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
> >>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
> >>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.
> >>>>> [sic]
> >>>>
> >>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
> >>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
> >>>>
> >>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
> >>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
> >>>>
> >>>> And then there's this:
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
> >>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
> >>>> battery.'
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Care to explain?
> >>
> >> As I expected...
> >>
> >> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
> >>
> >> It must be production run of one.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >
> > I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016. When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
> > the battery could be replaced without too much effort. Just have to
> > take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it. Would be
> > considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
> > and am sure I could do it.
> >
> > Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.
> One more thing. Some jackass companies(like Tesla) embed ID chips in
> their products. So as to make you buy replacement parts only from them.
> Dell may also. If the battery were to have an embedded ID chip in it it
> may actually require a certified technician to "program" its replacement
> to be recognized. Don't know that to be the case but battery
> replacement "looks" simple enough.

Never heard of that on a battery but suppose it's possible. Amazon has a wide range of XPS replacement batteries available.

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On 2021-12-03 11:15 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:09:16 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
>>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
>>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
>>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
>>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
>>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
>>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
>>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
>>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
>>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
>>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
>>>>>>> Both are awesome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
>>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
>>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
>>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
>>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
>>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
>>>>>> the empty hub.
>>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
>>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
>>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
>>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
>>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
>>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
>>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
>>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
>>>>>> from the new PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>
>>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
>>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
>>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
>>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
>>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable. [sic]
>>>>
>>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
>>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
>>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
>>>>
>>>> And then there's this:
>>>>
>>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
>>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
>>>> battery.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
>>>>
>>>> Care to explain?
>> As I expected...
>>
>> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
>>
>> It must be production run of one.
>>
>> :-)
>
> XPS 9510. 15 refers to the screen size, asshole
>

And that is the precise machine about which the quote I provided was
written, Idiot Liarboy!

Do you see the search string in that URL, Idiot? Are you bright enough
to decode it? Let me help:

"dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery"

Now take all the "%20"s and replace them with spaces:

"dell xps 9510 replacement battery"

And Dell's official word on the subject is:

'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
battery.'

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 by: Alan - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:29 UTC

On 2021-12-03 11:17 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:27:57 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-03 10:22 a.m., John wrote:
>>> On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
>>>>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
>>>>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
>>>>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
>>>>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
>>>>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
>>>>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
>>>>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
>>>>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
>>>>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
>>>>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
>>>>>>>>> Both are awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
>>>>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
>>>>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
>>>>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
>>>>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
>>>>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
>>>>>>>> the empty hub.
>>>>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
>>>>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
>>>>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
>>>>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
>>>>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
>>>>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
>>>>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
>>>>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
>>>>>>>> from the new PC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
>>>>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
>>>>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
>>>>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
>>>>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.
>>>>>>> [sic]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
>>>>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
>>>>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then there's this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
>>>>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
>>>>>> battery.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Care to explain?
>>>>
>>>> As I expected...
>>>>
>>>> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
>>>>
>>>> It must be production run of one.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016. When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
>>> the battery could be replaced without too much effort. Just have to
>>> take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it. Would be
>>> considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
>>> and am sure I could do it.
>>>
>>> Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.
>> The Idiot's implicit claim was that he could deal with too short battery
>> life by swapping batteries...
>>
>> ...and that's why he's also known as "Liarboy".
>>
>> :-)
>
> No asshole, it was a swipe at Apple's relatively difficult battery replacements in some recent devices.

Then you should learn to write with better paragraph structure, Idiot.

You started a paragraph about battery life and ended it with a sentence
about the battery being "userreplaceable" [sic]. Explicitly, sentences
in the same paragraph are discussing the same topic.

"A paragraph develops ONE main idea through a series of related
sentences. This main idea is usually introduced in the first sentence of
the paragraph, called the topic sentence. The idea is then developed
further through the sentences that follow."

<https://libguides.newcastle.edu.au/writing-paragraphs/structure>

"Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook Pro.
Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours. The 9510
tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8 hours. Still a
full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is that about 10
screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.[sic]"

You agree that's your original paragraph, don't you, Idiot (the "[sic]"
indicating your typo not mine)?

So... ...what is your first sentence; the "topic sentence"?

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 by: John - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:38 UTC

On 12/3/21 11:21 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
>> On 12/3/21 10:22 AM, John wrote:
>>> On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
>>>>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
>>>>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
>>>>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
>>>>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
>>>>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
>>>>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
>>>>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
>>>>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
>>>>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
>>>>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac.
>>>>>>>>> Both are awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
>>>>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
>>>>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
>>>>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
>>>>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
>>>>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
>>>>>>>> the empty hub.
>>>>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
>>>>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
>>>>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
>>>>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
>>>>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
>>>>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
>>>>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
>>>>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
>>>>>>>> from the new PC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
>>>>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours.
>>>>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
>>>>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
>>>>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.
>>>>>>> [sic]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
>>>>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
>>>>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then there's this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
>>>>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
>>>>>> battery.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Care to explain?
>>>>
>>>> As I expected...
>>>>
>>>> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
>>>>
>>>> It must be production run of one.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016. When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
>>> the battery could be replaced without too much effort. Just have to
>>> take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it. Would be
>>> considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
>>> and am sure I could do it.
>>>
>>> Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.
>> One more thing. Some jackass companies(like Tesla) embed ID chips in
>> their products. So as to make you buy replacement parts only from them.
>> Dell may also. If the battery were to have an embedded ID chip in it it
>> may actually require a certified technician to "program" its replacement
>> to be recognized. Don't know that to be the case but battery
>> replacement "looks" simple enough.
>
> Never heard of that on a battery but suppose it's possible. Amazon has a wide range of XPS replacement batteries available.
>

As an old retired Electronics Engineer I am weary of much of the junk
sold on Amazon and prefer to use exact manufacturer replacement. A
poorly constructed Lithium battery could result in a fire and burn your
house down.

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 by: Thomas E. - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 21:03 UTC

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 2:38:49 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> On 12/3/21 11:21 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> >> On 12/3/21 10:22 AM, John wrote:
> >>> On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
> >>>>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
> >>>>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
> >>>>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
> >>>>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> >>>>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
> >>>>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
> >>>>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> >>>>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
> >>>>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
> >>>>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac..
> >>>>>>>>> Both are awesome.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> >>>>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
> >>>>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
> >>>>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> >>>>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
> >>>>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
> >>>>>>>> the empty hub.
> >>>>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> >>>>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
> >>>>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
> >>>>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
> >>>>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> >>>>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
> >>>>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
> >>>>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
> >>>>>>>> from the new PC.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
> >>>>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours..
> >>>>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
> >>>>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
> >>>>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable..
> >>>>>>> [sic]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
> >>>>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
> >>>>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And then there's this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
> >>>>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
> >>>>>> battery.'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Care to explain?
> >>>>
> >>>> As I expected...
> >>>>
> >>>> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
> >>>>
> >>>> It must be production run of one.
> >>>>
> >>>> :-)
> >>>
> >>> I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016. When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
> >>> the battery could be replaced without too much effort. Just have to
> >>> take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it. Would be
> >>> considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
> >>> and am sure I could do it.
> >>>
> >>> Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.
> >> One more thing. Some jackass companies(like Tesla) embed ID chips in
> >> their products. So as to make you buy replacement parts only from them..
> >> Dell may also. If the battery were to have an embedded ID chip in it it
> >> may actually require a certified technician to "program" its replacement
> >> to be recognized. Don't know that to be the case but battery
> >> replacement "looks" simple enough.
> >
> > Never heard of that on a battery but suppose it's possible. Amazon has a wide range of XPS replacement batteries available.
> >
> As an old retired Electronics Engineer I am weary of much of the junk
> sold on Amazon and prefer to use exact manufacturer replacement. A
> poorly constructed Lithium battery could result in a fire and burn your
> house down.

The point was that the replacements don't seem to need a chip. I'd get one from Dell for the exact reason you cite.

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On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 2:29:24 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-03 11:17 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:27:57 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2021-12-03 10:22 a.m., John wrote:
> >>> On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
> >>>>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
> >>>>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
> >>>>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
> >>>>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> >>>>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
> >>>>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
> >>>>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> >>>>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
> >>>>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
> >>>>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac..
> >>>>>>>>> Both are awesome.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> >>>>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
> >>>>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
> >>>>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> >>>>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
> >>>>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
> >>>>>>>> the empty hub.
> >>>>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> >>>>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
> >>>>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
> >>>>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
> >>>>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> >>>>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
> >>>>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
> >>>>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
> >>>>>>>> from the new PC.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
> >>>>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours..
> >>>>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
> >>>>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
> >>>>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable..
> >>>>>>> [sic]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
> >>>>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
> >>>>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And then there's this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
> >>>>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
> >>>>>> battery.'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Care to explain?
> >>>>
> >>>> As I expected...
> >>>>
> >>>> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
> >>>>
> >>>> It must be production run of one.
> >>>>
> >>>> :-)
> >>>
> >>> I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016. When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
> >>> the battery could be replaced without too much effort. Just have to
> >>> take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it. Would be
> >>> considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
> >>> and am sure I could do it.
> >>>
> >>> Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.
> >> The Idiot's implicit claim was that he could deal with too short battery
> >> life by swapping batteries...
> >>
> >> ...and that's why he's also known as "Liarboy".
> >>
> >> :-)
> >
> > No asshole, it was a swipe at Apple's relatively difficult battery replacements in some recent devices.
> Then you should learn to write with better paragraph structure, Idiot.
>
> You started a paragraph about battery life and ended it with a sentence
> about the battery being "userreplaceable" [sic]. Explicitly, sentences
> in the same paragraph are discussing the same topic.
>
> "A paragraph develops ONE main idea through a series of related
> sentences. This main idea is usually introduced in the first sentence of
> the paragraph, called the topic sentence. The idea is then developed
> further through the sentences that follow."
>
> <https://libguides.newcastle.edu.au/writing-paragraphs/structure>
> "Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook Pro.
> Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours. The 9510
> tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8 hours. Still a
> full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is that about 10
> screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.[sic]"
> You agree that's your original paragraph, don't you, Idiot (the "[sic]"
> indicating your typo not mine)?
>
> So... ...what is your first sentence; the "topic sentence"?

The typo is on me. Battery life is the topic. That last sentence is related.. The Dell could need more cycles and wear out faster. But it is easy to replace.

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On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 12:29:24 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-03 11:17 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:27:57 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2021-12-03 10:22 a.m., John wrote:
> >>> On 12/3/2021 10:09 AM, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2021-12-03 8:58 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 11:54:14 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2021-12-02 4:27 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:32:32 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:58:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> All set up and I'm using it now. As quick as the Mac for browsing
> >>>>>>>>> and other general use, a better screen than the Mac, but the fans
> >>>>>>>>> do run under load. Battery life is nowhere near the M1 Mac, but
> >>>>>>>>> what is? Dell overall quality is about the same. The trackpad is
> >>>>>>>>> a joy to use. Accurate and has a nice click action. The keyboard
> >>>>>>>>> has a different feel vs. the Mac but is as good. All a major
> >>>>>>>>> improvement over the HP.
> >>>>>>>> So how much worse is the Dell’s battery life?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Setting up the Dell was a very easy. Copied over the data files,
> >>>>>>>>> installed the apps, and logged into all my accounts. Last item
> >>>>>>>>> now is to recreate the Outlook signature files.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The combination of the his-res UHD OLED screen and the i9
> >>>>>>>>> processor yields a user experience equivalent to the 16" M1 Mac..
> >>>>>>>>> Both are awesome.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And, when I get one more $8 cable from Amazon I'll have a
> >>>>>>>>> dongle/adapter-free computer. The power supply, monitor and USB
> >>>>>>>>> hub will all be USB C. All 3 onboard USB ports will be used, but
> >>>>>>>>> my hub has 4 vacant slots.
> >>>>>>>> For a laptop, I like to minimize the number of plugs I have to pull
> >>>>>>>> in order to carry it away…I’d move those onboard connections onto
> >>>>>>>> the empty hub.
> >>>>>>>>> And, I'm running licensed W11. Every app I had on the Mac, or an
> >>>>>>>>> equivalent, is on here.
> >>>>>>>> Word is that MS has to wait for an “exclusive” ARM license
> >>>>>>>> agreement to expire in early 2022 before they can officially
> >>>>>>>> support W11 to the Apple silicone.
> >>>>>>>>> The HP is off to a new career running flight sims at the local
> >>>>>>>>> high school for the spring semester.
> >>>>>>>> That’s a bit tight for assuring no infant mortality failure risk
> >>>>>>>> from the new PC.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook
> >>>>>>> Pro. Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours..
> >>>>>>> The 9510 tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8
> >>>>>>> hours. Still a full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is
> >>>>>>> that about 10 screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable..
> >>>>>>> [sic]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Odd, then, don't you think, that they don't list a spare battery among
> >>>>>> the parts you can purchase for your Dell XPS 15, isn't it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is, assuming you bought the Dell XPS 15 9510: the only laptop
> >>>>>> listed on Dell's site that matches the specs you presented.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And then there's this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 'Users cannot replace this laptop’s battery without support. Ask a
> >>>>>> Dell-authorized technician to install a new battery or use an external
> >>>>>> battery.'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/dell%20xps%209510%20replacement%20battery>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Care to explain?
> >>>>
> >>>> As I expected...
> >>>>
> >>>> What precise model of Dell XPS 15 do you have, Liarboy?
> >>>>
> >>>> It must be production run of one.
> >>>>
> >>>> :-)
> >>>
> >>> I have a XPS 15 9550 from Late 2016. When I upgraded the RAM I noticed
> >>> the battery could be replaced without too much effort. Just have to
> >>> take the 10 screws or so off the bottom plate to access it. Would be
> >>> considered a "professional" type repair but it does not look too hard
> >>> and am sure I could do it.
> >>>
> >>> Assuming I could get the battery from Dell.
> >> The Idiot's implicit claim was that he could deal with too short battery
> >> life by swapping batteries...
> >>
> >> ...and that's why he's also known as "Liarboy".
> >>
> >> :-)
> >
> > No asshole, it was a swipe at Apple's relatively difficult battery replacements in some recent devices.
> Then you should learn to write with better paragraph structure, Idiot.
>
> You started a paragraph about battery life and ended it with a sentence
> about the battery being "userreplaceable" [sic]. Explicitly, sentences
> in the same paragraph are discussing the same topic.
>
> "A paragraph develops ONE main idea through a series of related
> sentences. This main idea is usually introduced in the first sentence of
> the paragraph, called the topic sentence. The idea is then developed
> further through the sentences that follow."
>
> <https://libguides.newcastle.edu.au/writing-paragraphs/structure>
> "Battery life, based on some reviews, is about half the 16" MacBook Pro.
> Tom's Hardware tested both the new Mac models at 14-15 hours. The 9510
> tested with the OLED screen from the same source was 7-8 hours. Still a
> full day, but nowhere close to the Mac. Good news is that about 10
> screws hold the battery in and it's userreplaceable.[sic]"
> You agree that's your original paragraph, don't you, Idiot (the "[sic]"
> indicating your typo not mine)?
>
> So... ...what is your first sentence; the "topic sentence"?

It's simple to pick by focusing on a few special cases clashing from
what is something more common like 3d printers. What is more important
from an advocacy standpoint are the common values. Kelly Phillips failed
to give a case study of a profitable company that has earned its position
by not focusing on its customers and wares.

We're all sorry Kelly Phillips's a paranoid, narcissistic, delusional
liar but that's not gonna change anything <shrug>.

If Commander Kinsey has 'myFile.pdf' open in an application such as
MS Word and you want to change its name to 'windows.txt' via a preset
script when connecting to a NFS host, Commander Kinsey's method might
be of value.

Utter bull by an uninformed, tall-tale telling, manipulative, co-trolling
moron who couldn't tell the truth no matter what his socks/shills say.

-
This broke the Internet!
https://www.bing.com/search?q=%22functionally%20illiterate%20fraud%22
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Steve+Petruzzellis%3A+narcissistic+bigot
Dustin Cook is a functionally illiterate fraud

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