Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.

Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
and an obnoxious fan.

Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
past experience.

John <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.

It will be supported for 8 to 10 years. It will last way longer than
that. I have a 2014 Mac Mini (Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD) that runs the
current MacOS. I also have a 2003 Power Mac G4 Mirror Drive Door that
still works fine. I had the power supply repaired a couple years ago by a
guy on eBay.

I have a few iPod Classics (click wheel, various models) that are going on
15 years old. I have replaced the batteries (of course) and replaced the
hard drives with 64GB, 128GB and 256GB SSDs. All are working fine.

Isn’t it just AMAZING how known Apple haters here have nothing but problems
with Apple products. 🙄

On 12/2/21 9:11 PM, Bob Campbell wrote:
> John <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
>
> It will be supported for 8 to 10 years. It will last way longer than
> that. I have a 2014 Mac Mini (Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD) that runs the
> current MacOS. I also have a 2003 Power Mac G4 Mirror Drive Door that
> still works fine. I had the power supply repaired a couple years ago by a
> guy on eBay.
>
> I have a few iPod Classics (click wheel, various models) that are going on
> 15 years old. I have replaced the batteries (of course) and replaced the
> hard drives with 64GB, 128GB and 256GB SSDs. All are working fine.
>
> Isn’t it just AMAZING how known Apple haters here have nothing but problems
> with Apple products. 🙄
>
>

I usually buy Applecare for some reason. Have not had to use it since
2007. That one time Apple replaced my 2 yr old G5 tower with a
completely new 2007 Intel machine after they could not repair it the
first two times. That is the ONLY hardware problem I ever had with an
Apple product. And I have bought quite a few since then.

On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 10:11:40 PM UTC-7, Bob Campbell wrote:
> John <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
> > and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
> It will be supported for 8 to 10 years. It will last way longer than
> that. I have a 2014 Mac Mini (Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD) that runs the
> current MacOS. I also have a 2003 Power Mac G4 Mirror Drive Door that
> still works fine. I had the power supply repaired a couple years ago by a
> guy on eBay.
>
> I have a few iPod Classics (click wheel, various models) that are going on
> 15 years old. I have replaced the batteries (of course) and replaced the
> hard drives with 64GB, 128GB and 256GB SSDs. All are working fine.
>
> Isn’t it just AMAZING how known Apple haters here have nothing but problems
> with Apple products. 🙄

How would you understand me if you understand there is a possibility that
Snit sock Snit / Snot uses shills? That really does not give you gas? This
is the classic 'principle' by those calling themselves 'Democrats', you must
'pH test' yourself, you are no longer merely suspected, you're tossed to
the hounds until you clear your name, which makes no sense in this situation.
Snit sock Snit / Snot loves that David is on the other end. Imagine if Snit
sock Snit / Snot walked up to a dog and delivered the punch line. It wouldn't
be rewarding. Snit sock Snit / Snot's allegation is misplaced right from
the start, and not true second of all. Is David trying to be just as much
of a crooked liar as Snit sock Snit / Snot is already known as being?

David obviously has a lot of wisdom to share and he apparently wants to
write tutorials. Sadly this is maybe the most frustrating place for doing
that because the majority of response is moaning, misleading and other hogwash.
I often destroy Snit sock Snit / Snot with my brain. With no support at all,
as is usual for Snit sock Snit / Snot.

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On 2021-12-02 9:11 p.m., Bob Campbell wrote:
> John <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
>
> It will be supported for 8 to 10 years. It will last way longer than
> that. I have a 2014 Mac Mini (Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD) that runs the
> current MacOS. I also have a 2003 Power Mac G4 Mirror Drive Door that
> still works fine. I had the power supply repaired a couple years ago by a
> guy on eBay.
>
> I have a few iPod Classics (click wheel, various models) that are going on
> 15 years old. I have replaced the batteries (of course) and replaced the
> hard drives with 64GB, 128GB and 256GB SSDs. All are working fine.
>
> Isn’t it just AMAZING how known Apple haters here have nothing but problems
> with Apple products. 🙄
>
>

Isn't it just? ;-)

I've got a MacBook Pro 13" from early 2015, and it's working great again
after I replaced the battery (user-replaceable by our local Idiot's
standards) and refreshed the thermal paste on the CPU.

I've got 16GB of RAM, so the only thing it really needs is for the 500GB
SSD to be replaced with a terabyte, but with iCloud offline storage of a
lot stuff, I'm in fair shape for a bit yet.

I've always tried to avoid buying/installing the first generation of
anything, so I think I'll keep if for a little longer until any teething
issues with the new machines are discovered. When I do buy, I usually
max out anything that can't be upgraded later (RAM on this one, but,
sadly, probably RAM and storage on the next one).

On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
>
> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
> and an obnoxious fan.
>
> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
> past experience.

Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.

On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
>>
>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
>> and an obnoxious fan.
>>
>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
>> past experience.
>
> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
>

Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
Macbook Pro.

On 2021-12-03 11:53 a.m., John wrote:
> On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
>>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
>>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
>>>
>>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
>>> and an obnoxious fan.
>>>
>>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
>>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
>>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
>>> past experience.
>>
>> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
>>
>
>
> Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
> Macbook Pro.

Nice...

I think I was offered about $500CAD for mine when I checked.

On 12/3/2021 11:55 AM, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-03 11:53 a.m., John wrote:
>> On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
>>>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
>>>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
>>>>
>>>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
>>>> and an obnoxious fan.
>>>>
>>>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
>>>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
>>>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
>>>> past experience.
>>>
>>> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
>> Macbook Pro.
>
> Nice...
>
> I think I was offered about $500CAD for mine when I checked.

Might be able to get a little more if I sold it myself but I figure it
just isn't worth much anymore with the superior M1 Max now on the market.

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 2:53:41 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> >> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
> >> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
> >>
> >> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
> >> and an obnoxious fan.
> >>
> >> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
> >> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
> >> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
> >> past experience.
> >
> > Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
> >
> Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
> Macbook Pro.

Wow, that was very generous of Apple. How old is old??? I got a pretty good trade for my 6S when I bought the SE 2020. That's a nice program when it works for you.

Boo-hoo, Apple offered to recycle my 4 year old HP Envy. :)

On 12/3/21 1:00 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 2:53:41 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
>> On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
>>>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
>>>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
>>>>
>>>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
>>>> and an obnoxious fan.
>>>>
>>>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
>>>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
>>>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
>>>> past experience.
>>>
>>> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
>>>
>> Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
>> Macbook Pro.
>
> Wow, that was very generous of Apple. How old is old??? I got a pretty good trade for my 6S when I bought the SE 2020. That's a nice program when it works for you.
>
> Boo-hoo, Apple offered to recycle my 4 year old HP Envy. :)
>

The laptop is about two years old.

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 12:55:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-03 11:53 a.m., John wrote:
> > On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
> >> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> >>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
> >>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
> >>>
> >>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
> >>> and an obnoxious fan.
> >>>
> >>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
> >>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
> >>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
> >>> past experience.
> >>
> >> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
> > Macbook Pro.
> Nice...
>
> I think I was offered about $500CAD for mine when I checked.

He is obviously dishonest, he got called out on it and he's doing the expected
role-reversal buffoonery taught in Trolling 101 as he makes an effort to
hang on to a smattering of honor... but it won't work.

The Linux CD Digger Thomnson mentioned is read-only media. It's not possible
to copy new information to it. What is your evidence? In Digger Thomnson's
case, I, and a whole list of "hackers", had pointed to things Digger Thomnson
said and did, he rejected the idea. What Digger Thomnson couldn't deny was
people actually posting what I noted, which is how he ended up with his list,
of course. Ha! Right, Digger Thomnson is trying to retail a programming interface
reference, which anyone can get in 5 seconds, that allows him to flood multiple
groups. If he wasn't so slow he would figure out how stupid he sounds.

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On 2021-12-03 1:29 p.m., Dustin the dude with the stuck floppy wrote:
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 12:55:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-03 11:53 a.m., John wrote:
>>> On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
>>>>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
>>>>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
>>>>> and an obnoxious fan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
>>>>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
>>>>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
>>>>> past experience.
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
>>> Macbook Pro.
>> Nice...
>>
>> I think I was offered about $500CAD for mine when I checked.
>
>
> He is obviously dishonest, he got called out on it and he's doing the expected
> role-reversal buffoonery taught in Trolling 101 as he makes an effort to
> hang on to a smattering of honor... but it won't work.
>
> The Linux CD Digger Thomnson mentioned is read-only media. It's not possible
> to copy new information to it. What is your evidence? In Digger Thomnson's
> case, I, and a whole list of "hackers", had pointed to things Digger Thomnson
> said and did, he rejected the idea. What Digger Thomnson couldn't deny was
> people actually posting what I noted, which is how he ended up with his list,
> of course. Ha! Right, Digger Thomnson is trying to retail a programming interface
> reference, which anyone can get in 5 seconds, that allows him to flood multiple
> groups. If he wasn't so slow he would figure out how stupid he sounds.
>

Go away, Snit.

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 4:38:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-03 1:29 p.m., Dustin the dude with the stuck floppy wrote:
> > On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 12:55:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2021-12-03 11:53 a.m., John wrote:
> >>> On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> >>>>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
> >>>>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
> >>>>> and an obnoxious fan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
> >>>>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
> >>>>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
> >>>>> past experience.
> >>>>
> >>>> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
> >>> Macbook Pro.
> >> Nice...
> >>
> >> I think I was offered about $500CAD for mine when I checked.
> >
> >
> > He is obviously dishonest, he got called out on it and he's doing the expected
> > role-reversal buffoonery taught in Trolling 101 as he makes an effort to
> > hang on to a smattering of honor... but it won't work.
> >
> > The Linux CD Digger Thomnson mentioned is read-only media. It's not possible
> > to copy new information to it. What is your evidence? In Digger Thomnson's
> > case, I, and a whole list of "hackers", had pointed to things Digger Thomnson
> > said and did, he rejected the idea. What Digger Thomnson couldn't deny was
> > people actually posting what I noted, which is how he ended up with his list,
> > of course. Ha! Right, Digger Thomnson is trying to retail a programming interface
> > reference, which anyone can get in 5 seconds, that allows him to flood multiple
> > groups. If he wasn't so slow he would figure out how stupid he sounds.
> >
> Go away, Snit.

Good luck with that. Really, good luck.

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 1:02:34 PM UTC-7, John wrote:
> On 12/3/2021 11:55 AM, Alan wrote:
> > On 2021-12-03 11:53 a.m., John wrote:
> >> On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> >>>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
> >>>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
> >>>> and an obnoxious fan.
> >>>>
> >>>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
> >>>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
> >>>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
> >>>> past experience.
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
> >> Macbook Pro.
> >
> > Nice...
> >
> > I think I was offered about $500CAD for mine when I checked.
> Might be able to get a little more if I sold it myself but I figure it
> just isn't worth much anymore with the superior M1 Max now on the market.

Why would you trust me if you believe there's a possibility that Snit
sock Sigmond uses forged accounts? That actually make you want to take
the red pill? This is the new 'principle' by those calling themselves
'leftists', you must 'recuse' yourself, you are no longer given due process,
you are assumed guilty until you pin the blame on Peter Köhlmann, which
is not possible in this time frame.

Snit sock Sigmond only thinks about Peter Köhlmann, Peter Köhlmann,
Peter Köhlmann!

Why would Peter Köhlmann need 'helpers'? He's the one who shows facts
for his side of the "debates".

Nobody is being controlled by Apple.

"Somewhere between 2000 or 2006 I trusted Peter Köhlmann, the fully
absurd liar" - Snit sock Sigmond.

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On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 2:43:45 PM UTC-7, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 4:38:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> > On 2021-12-03 1:29 p.m., Dustin the dude with the stuck floppy wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 12:55:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
> > >> On 2021-12-03 11:53 a.m., John wrote:
> > >>> On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
> > >>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
> > >>>>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
> > >>>>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
> > >>>>> and an obnoxious fan.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
> > >>>>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
> > >>>>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
> > >>>>> past experience.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
> > >>> Macbook Pro.
> > >> Nice...
> > >>
> > >> I think I was offered about $500CAD for mine when I checked.
> > >
> > >
> > > He is obviously dishonest, he got called out on it and he's doing the expected
> > > role-reversal buffoonery taught in Trolling 101 as he makes an effort to
> > > hang on to a smattering of honor... but it won't work.
> > >
> > > The Linux CD Digger Thomnson mentioned is read-only media. It's not possible
> > > to copy new information to it. What is your evidence? In Digger Thomnson's
> > > case, I, and a whole list of "hackers", had pointed to things Digger Thomnson
> > > said and did, he rejected the idea. What Digger Thomnson couldn't deny was
> > > people actually posting what I noted, which is how he ended up with his list,
> > > of course. Ha! Right, Digger Thomnson is trying to retail a programming interface
> > > reference, which anyone can get in 5 seconds, that allows him to flood multiple
> > > groups. If he wasn't so slow he would figure out how stupid he sounds.
> > >
> > Go away, Snit.
> Good luck with that. Really, good luck.

Usenet is a sovereign non-organization based on an honor system. It was
Ixchel who stated that he and his students used to lie to strangers all
the time and it was free entertainment. And in response you have nothing
but a crack to start a troll-fest. Being an open format as it is, bulletin
boards will never go away but it'll never be what your grandfather would
use.

What do you get out of lying? Of course, the only concern that concerns
Ixchel is being "the winner", and if he can not have that he will do more
research to actively slap Snit down... he's been that way forever.

I don't agree with that. Darkness is darkness and there are all kinds of
people who are OK with it. Several are even lawyers.

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On 2021-12-04 12:20 a.m., Michael Glasser wrote:
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 2:43:45 PM UTC-7, Thomas E. wrote:
>> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 4:38:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2021-12-03 1:29 p.m., Dustin the dude with the stuck floppy wrote:
>>>> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 12:55:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-12-03 11:53 a.m., John wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/3/2021 11:24 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 9:29:22 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just saw that my custom Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max finished production today
>>>>>>>> and is preparing to ship. Hopefully it will last longer than Toms did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure would hate to have to get a Dell laptop with half the battery life
>>>>>>>> and an obnoxious fan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suppose it will take another week and a half to get it with how slow it
>>>>>>>> is to ship out of China and all. Sometimes orders bounce around for 3
>>>>>>>> or 4 days before it ever gets out of China. At least that has been my
>>>>>>>> past experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Congratulations! You will really enjoy it. Worth the price.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Especially since Apple gave me 1420 bucks in trade in for my old 16 in
>>>>>> Macbook Pro.
>>>>> Nice...
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I was offered about $500CAD for mine when I checked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He is obviously dishonest, he got called out on it and he's doing the expected
>>>> role-reversal buffoonery taught in Trolling 101 as he makes an effort to
>>>> hang on to a smattering of honor... but it won't work.
>>>>
>>>> The Linux CD Digger Thomnson mentioned is read-only media. It's not possible
>>>> to copy new information to it. What is your evidence? In Digger Thomnson's
>>>> case, I, and a whole list of "hackers", had pointed to things Digger Thomnson
>>>> said and did, he rejected the idea. What Digger Thomnson couldn't deny was
>>>> people actually posting what I noted, which is how he ended up with his list,
>>>> of course. Ha! Right, Digger Thomnson is trying to retail a programming interface
>>>> reference, which anyone can get in 5 seconds, that allows him to flood multiple
>>>> groups. If he wasn't so slow he would figure out how stupid he sounds.
>>>>
>>> Go away, Snit.
>> Good luck with that. Really, good luck.
>
>
> Usenet is a sovereign non-organization based on an honor system. It was
> Ixchel who stated that he and his students used to lie to strangers all
> the time and it was free entertainment. And in response you have nothing
> but a crack to start a troll-fest. Being an open format as it is, bulletin
> boards will never go away but it'll never be what your grandfather would
> use.
>
> What do you get out of lying? Of course, the only concern that concerns
> Ixchel is being "the winner", and if he can not have that he will do more
> research to actively slap Snit down... he's been that way forever.
>
> I don't agree with that. Darkness is darkness and there are all kinds of
> people who are OK with it. Several are even lawyers.
>
>
> --
> This broke the Internet!
> https://youtu.be/hYQ4Tg0r0g0
> Dustin Cook the functionally illiterate fraud
>

Go away, Snit.

Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
<snip>

> I've always tried to avoid buying/installing the first generation of
> anything, so I think I'll keep if for a little longer until any teething
> issues with the new machines are discovered. When I do buy, I usually
> max out anything that can't be upgraded later (RAM on this one, but,
> sadly, probably RAM and storage on the next one).
>

My only problem with Mac nowadays is just for storage reasons. For a RAM
that cannot be upgraded is still make sense, but for local storage, it is
just crazy.

Local storage is local storage, it is not volatile memory, so apple should
make sure their system is not too dependent on the local storage for the
stuff supposedly on RAM.

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On 2021-12-05 2:05 a.m., alien wrote:
> Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> I've always tried to avoid buying/installing the first generation of
>> anything, so I think I'll keep if for a little longer until any teething
>> issues with the new machines are discovered. When I do buy, I usually
>> max out anything that can't be upgraded later (RAM on this one, but,
>> sadly, probably RAM and storage on the next one).
>>
>
> My only problem with Mac nowadays is just for storage reasons. For a RAM
> that cannot be upgraded is still make sense, but for local storage, it is
> just crazy.
>
> Local storage is local storage, it is not volatile memory, so apple should
> make sure their system is not too dependent on the local storage for the
> stuff supposedly on RAM.
>

What in the world are you blathering about?

On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 12:40:12 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-05 2:05 a.m., alien wrote:
> > Alan <no...@nope.com> wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> >> I've always tried to avoid buying/installing the first generation of
> >> anything, so I think I'll keep if for a little longer until any teething
> >> issues with the new machines are discovered. When I do buy, I usually
> >> max out anything that can't be upgraded later (RAM on this one, but,
> >> sadly, probably RAM and storage on the next one).
> >>
> >
> > My only problem with Mac nowadays is just for storage reasons. For a RAM
> > that cannot be upgraded is still make sense, but for local storage, it is
> > just crazy.
> >
> > Local storage is local storage, it is not volatile memory, so apple should
> > make sure their system is not too dependent on the local storage for the
> > stuff supposedly on RAM.
> >
> What in the world are you blathering about?

It's called VM - when stuff that would normally be in RAM gets written to storage. Or, it's about the fact that you cannot upgrade Apple's SSD space. Or, maybe both. No wonder you can't figure out that I was not talking about increasing battery durability by putting in a new battery. You can't read simple English, Asshole. And, you obviously don't know much about computers..

On 2021-12-05 3:29 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 12:40:12 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-05 2:05 a.m., alien wrote:
>>> Alan <no...@nope.com> wrote: <snip>
>>>
>>>> I've always tried to avoid buying/installing the first
>>>> generation of anything, so I think I'll keep if for a little
>>>> longer until any teething issues with the new machines are
>>>> discovered. When I do buy, I usually max out anything that
>>>> can't be upgraded later (RAM on this one, but, sadly, probably
>>>> RAM and storage on the next one).
>>>>
>>>
>>> My only problem with Mac nowadays is just for storage reasons.
>>> For a RAM that cannot be upgraded is still make sense, but for
>>> local storage, it is just crazy.
>>>
>>> Local storage is local storage, it is not volatile memory, so
>>> apple should make sure their system is not too dependent on the
>>> local storage for the stuff supposedly on RAM.
>>>
>> What in the world are you blathering about?
>
> It's called VM - when stuff that would normally be in RAM gets
> written to storage. Or, it's about the fact that you cannot upgrade
> Apple's SSD space. Or, maybe both. No wonder you can't figure out
> that I was not talking about increasing battery durability by putting
> in a new battery. You can't read simple English, Asshole. And, you
> obviously don't know much about computers.
>

Yes, Idiot.

I know what VM is.

And what he's written is still nonsense.

He's suggested that the lacking the ability to upgrade the local storage
will somehow make the system "too dependent on the local storage for
stuff supposedly on RAM".

And that makes no sense at all.

On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 10:40:12 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-05 2:05 a.m., alien wrote:
> > Alan <no...@nope.com> wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> >> I've always tried to avoid buying/installing the first generation of
> >> anything, so I think I'll keep if for a little longer until any teething
> >> issues with the new machines are discovered. When I do buy, I usually
> >> max out anything that can't be upgraded later (RAM on this one, but,
> >> sadly, probably RAM and storage on the next one).
> >>
> >
> > My only problem with Mac nowadays is just for storage reasons. For a RAM
> > that cannot be upgraded is still make sense, but for local storage, it is
> > just crazy.
> >
> > Local storage is local storage, it is not volatile memory, so apple should
> > make sure their system is not too dependent on the local storage for the
> > stuff supposedly on RAM.
> >
> What in the world are you blathering about?

Ishtar lies so much that he has a terrible time keeping track of his dishonesty.
Or his forgeries and other crap. Ishtar wants to hurt the whole group: If
he and his shills can't be the focus here then his flooding crap will.

Almost all regulars in this forum do programming either as a necessity or
as a job, so I doubt Ryan Sullivan thinks of automation to be "impossible".
The herd members value the lowest common denominator in both their lives
and their computer systems. ChromeOS is based on Linux. End of Story.

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On 2021-12-06 1:13 p.m., Gremlin the Functionally Illiterate Fraud wrote:
> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 10:40:12 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-05 2:05 a.m., alien wrote:
>>> Alan <no...@nope.com> wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> I've always tried to avoid buying/installing the first generation of
>>>> anything, so I think I'll keep if for a little longer until any teething
>>>> issues with the new machines are discovered. When I do buy, I usually
>>>> max out anything that can't be upgraded later (RAM on this one, but,
>>>> sadly, probably RAM and storage on the next one).
>>>>
>>>
>>> My only problem with Mac nowadays is just for storage reasons. For a RAM
>>> that cannot be upgraded is still make sense, but for local storage, it is
>>> just crazy.
>>>
>>> Local storage is local storage, it is not volatile memory, so apple should
>>> make sure their system is not too dependent on the local storage for the
>>> stuff supposedly on RAM.
>>>
>> What in the world are you blathering about?
>
>
> Ishtar lies so much that he has a terrible time keeping track of his dishonesty.
> Or his forgeries and other crap. Ishtar wants to hurt the whole group: If
> he and his shills can't be the focus here then his flooding crap will.
>
> Almost all regulars in this forum do programming either as a necessity or
> as a job, so I doubt Ryan Sullivan thinks of automation to be "impossible".
> The herd members value the lowest common denominator in both their lives
> and their computer systems. ChromeOS is based on Linux. End of Story.
>

Go away, Snit.

On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 12:31:33 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-05 3:29 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 12:40:12 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2021-12-05 2:05 a.m., alien wrote:
> >>> Alan <no...@nope.com> wrote: <snip>
> >>>
> >>>> I've always tried to avoid buying/installing the first
> >>>> generation of anything, so I think I'll keep if for a little
> >>>> longer until any teething issues with the new machines are
> >>>> discovered. When I do buy, I usually max out anything that
> >>>> can't be upgraded later (RAM on this one, but, sadly, probably
> >>>> RAM and storage on the next one).
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> My only problem with Mac nowadays is just for storage reasons.
> >>> For a RAM that cannot be upgraded is still make sense, but for
> >>> local storage, it is just crazy.
> >>>
> >>> Local storage is local storage, it is not volatile memory, so
> >>> apple should make sure their system is not too dependent on the
> >>> local storage for the stuff supposedly on RAM.
> >>>
> >> What in the world are you blathering about?
> >
> > It's called VM - when stuff that would normally be in RAM gets
> > written to storage. Or, it's about the fact that you cannot upgrade
> > Apple's SSD space. Or, maybe both. No wonder you can't figure out
> > that I was not talking about increasing battery durability by putting
> > in a new battery. You can't read simple English, Asshole. And, you
> > obviously don't know much about computers.
> >
> Yes, Idiot.
>
> I know what VM is.
>
> And what he's written is still nonsense.
>
> He's suggested that the lacking the ability to upgrade the local storage
> will somehow make the system "too dependent on the local storage for
> stuff supposedly on RAM".
>
>
> And that makes no sense at all.

Really?

It does if the SSD is getting full and due to lack of RAM space VM starts using up the last of the drive. You do know that VM shuffles data that it does not enough have room for local storage???? Right??? If you can't upgrade local storage then you are out of luck.

You also know that RAM access is orders of magnitude faster than an SSD, so the more SSD you use for VM the less responsive is the computer???

https://www.minitool.com/partition-disk/ram-vs-ssd.html

You also know that your SSD's life is limited by the number of write operations whereas RAM has no set limits. Use of SSD space for VM writes shortens the life of the SSD.

Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2021-12-05 2:05 a.m., alien wrote:
>> Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>> I've always tried to avoid buying/installing the first generation of
>>> anything, so I think I'll keep if for a little longer until any teething
>>> issues with the new machines are discovered. When I do buy, I usually
>>> max out anything that can't be upgraded later (RAM on this one, but,
>>> sadly, probably RAM and storage on the next one).
>>>
>>
>> My only problem with Mac nowadays is just for storage reasons. For a RAM
>> that cannot be upgraded is still make sense, but for local storage, it is
>> just crazy.
>>
>> Local storage is local storage, it is not volatile memory, so apple should
>> make sure their system is not too dependent on the local storage for the
>> stuff supposedly on RAM.
>>
>
> What in the world are you blathering about?
>

Sorry for the late reply.

I am talking about the availability of upgrading or replacing your storage
which nowadays is SSD.

SSD has a limited lifetime because of the write operation, which is
different from RAM. RAM is not cared how much write operation it will do,
it will not be broken because of it.

Meanwhile, the storage is not upgradeable or replaceable it will become a
problem.

macOS nowadays uses a lot of virtual memory or VM, which will deteriorate
SSD fast. That is why I wrote that Apple should make sure their system here
means macOS not to depend on VM too much since it is an SSD, it is not
volatile memory here means RAM.

That is what the second paragraph means.

If they made it like this, the sustainability of the MacBook will be less
and less and quickly become another e-waste.

Sorry for the confusion and made my post without explanation, I thought
people will easy to understand it. I hope now it will be more
understandable

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