novaBBS - comp.sys.mac.advocacy - Re: Ping Apd: Hacking NNTP protocol tweaks

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:22:43 PM UTC-7, pothead wrote:
> On 2022-01-07, John Dough <jo...@dough.fake> wrote:
> > On 2022-01-04, Steve Carroll <frelw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> How would you understand me if you understand there is a possibility
> >> that Snot / Snit uses forged accounts? That actually clicks for you?
> >> This is the classic 'rule' by those calling themselves 'liberals', you
> >> must 'pH test' yourself, you are no longer presumed innocent, you're
> >> tossed to the hounds until you clear your name... a thing that isn't
> >> possible in this scenario. Being decentralized as it is, bulletin boards
> >> will never go away but it'll never be what your grandfather would use.
> >>
> >> Snot / Snit never takes culpability for his own posts. Quotes that are
> >> easily seen to be trolling.
> >
> > Liberals and progressives are not the same thing.
> True, but there is a lot of overlap.
> Same thing with socialism and communism. The definitions are
> specific in some areas and vague in others.
>
> > Do your research.
>
> Depending upon where you look you will come up with a 100 or more
> different, yet similar variations.
>
> --
> pothead
> Tommy Chong For President 2024
> because crazy Joe Biden is demented.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 4:04 PM:
-----
Cute trick... To the guy who hacked my Google account.
-----
No details. Seems to treat it as a joke.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:02 PM, <https://goo.gl/51rsmZ>:
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Email Hacking Is A Serious Crime
-----
No longer "cute"... now it is a serious crime. OK.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:07 PM:
By now he is posting more links to how serious this crime against him
is.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 7:25 PM:
-----
I didn't write that.
-----
Now he is denying the posts from his own account. OK, he was "hacked".
Someone else posted this. Hard to hack a gmail account given how they use
two-step authentication and someone would need access to his phone or the
like... but at least POSSIBLE.

Even then, though, if someone tries to guess your password Google alerts
you and lets you know what IP address and other info. I know because someone
in a Denver internet cafe has tried mine on several occasions.

Google even forces you to change your password when this happens. Very
hard to hack these days.

So already Carroll's story is unlikely.

But let us accept it... someone somehow hacked his account bypassing the
two step verification. This person did not, however, change his password
and Carroll posted within an hour of the "hacker". Before that, unless
he is an idiot, he changed his password and the "hacker" was locked out.
The "hacker" got one post in.

But Carroll could not leave his story there.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:36 PM, <https://goo.gl/NJ2bMH>:
-----
Someone hacked my frelwizzen gmail acct so, for the time being,
don't trust anything from it.
-----
Wait. What? Even after Carroll figured out this "hacker" who was too stupid
to change his password had broken into his account and Carroll *surely*
must have changed his own password, he is saying the "hacker" might still
have access. Might be able to break Google's two-step verification process
*again*.

This is *very* unlikely... to the point of being unbelievable.

Even worse for him: he notes which of his accounts he is claiming was
hacked - but in the past he has denied even using the other accounts! LOL!
He screwed up and made it very clear he has multiple accounts and felt
the need to note which one. He made the same mistake in the next quote
where he speaks of WHICH of his gmail accounts he is claiming was hacked.
Oops! If he only posts with one there would be no need to specify which
one!

He has completely screwed up in his game to pretend he posts with only
one gmail account. Completely idiotic of him, too!

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:38 PM, <https://goo.gl/YA7gMO>:
-----
Some mentally deficient child hacked my 'frelwizzen' gmail account
so I may have to kill it. For the time being, don't assume
anything that's coming from it was written by me.
-----
He is still saying that he may have to kill the account instead of just
changing the password which anyone with half a brain would have already
done (and Google *forces* you to do when someone even tries to hack your
account... I know because someone in the Denver area has tried to hack
mine multiple times... likely Carroll but I have no proof of this). And
he specifies WHICH of his accounts! He is directly admitting he uses more
than one account! His claim of being "forged" with his second account is
a lie. Proved.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:40 PM, <https://goo.gl/j6yCuV>:
-----
Looks like it's still being hacked despite me taking precautions,
I may have to kill the account.
-----
What makes it look like its still being hacked? And what precautions other
than changing the two-step verification options does he need? And how would
someone bypass this... is he really on the NSA watch list? Seems you would
need someone at that level to be doing this. He watches too much TV where
they computer hackers spend thirty seconds and bypass all security.

Just nonsense.

Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:05 PM: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/5QXJHXq8d1k/ujK_-
8ZYUnwJ
-----
Apparently Google is having issues with their accounts to the
point where they're ready to undertake some additional measures.
-----
But, of course, no evidence of this... and what measures? They already
alert users if someone else tries to guess your password and use two-step
authentication and even force you to make a new password if it seems someone
is trying to hack you.
-----
They're now involving several federal agencies in things they
didn't bother with previously in an effort to deal with people who
hack into accounts. They've asked me to leave the account open.
-----
So now Google is letting Carroll know how they are handling these things
- and asking him to leave a *hacked* account open... one someone can be
using to steal his identity. No. This does not pass the sniff test in any
way. Even if they were doing this for some bizarre sting operation, which
is in itself far fetched, they would have told Carroll to not make it public
information so the hacker would not know.

Just insanity. His own story is so idiotic and full of idiotic claims
it simply cannot be true. Carroll uses his secondary Google account - the
one he accesses via Tor and is referred to as his Tor account - to have
plausible deniability for things he says there. Now he is working to do
the same thing with his main account. Maybe Carroll read a report like
this: <http://cnnmon.ie/111QeT8> [money.com]. If so he missed the part
where they note if you are *really* hacked, which is rare, the hackers
change your password and lock you out. Why would they not?
-----
There's some new legislation that will help them deal with this
issue... which probably means more BS for us ;)
-----
Yes, new legislation to make sure Carroll does not have to deal with "hackers"
and "forgers" which do not even exist.

The funny part is, this happened shortly after someone in the Denver area,
likely Carroll, tried to guess *my* passwords and they did it from an Internet
café (Google tells you the IP and that can be used to trace back).

My guess: Carroll is the one who was working to guess my password and
figured this new lie of his was a good way to deny his own words even more
than he does with his Tor account *and* a way to make it so if I had talked
about him trying to hack my account he could say I was just copying his
comments. "Proving" I read his posts... which for now I am to see how absurd
his lies are. :)

Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:25 PM:
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The person who hacked into my Gmail acct. changed the wording on
this post. I've removed the others but Google asked me to leave
one standing for some odd reason.
-----
Here Carroll claims the hacker changed the wording on a post of his from
*before* he had even claimed he was hacked. So this hacker not only can
*post* for him but edit his old Usenet posts.

I call utter bullshit on this. Out and out lie from Carroll. And then
Carroll says Google asked him to not delete these "hacked" posts... this
is nonsense. Why would Google want him to leave forged posts in the public
and why would Google not just keep their own copy? Even Carroll notes it
is for "some odd reason" - yeah, because Carroll is telling stories that
make *no* sense at all.

Carroll is lying. Maybe there is some kernel of truth to his stories?
Even if so - and frankly it is unlikely he will ever show any evidence
to back his claims - the details he is posting are absurd.

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On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 7:55:13 PM UTC-7, Michael Glasser wrote:
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:22:43 PM UTC-7, pothead wrote:
> > On 2022-01-07, John Dough <jo...@dough.fake> wrote:
> > > On 2022-01-04, Steve Carroll <frelw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> How would you understand me if you understand there is a possibility
> > >> that Snot / Snit uses forged accounts? That actually clicks for you?
> > >> This is the classic 'rule' by those calling themselves 'liberals', you
> > >> must 'pH test' yourself, you are no longer presumed innocent, you're
> > >> tossed to the hounds until you clear your name... a thing that isn't
> > >> possible in this scenario. Being decentralized as it is, bulletin boards
> > >> will never go away but it'll never be what your grandfather would use.
> > >>
> > >> Snot / Snit never takes culpability for his own posts. Quotes that are
> > >> easily seen to be trolling.
> > >
> > > Liberals and progressives are not the same thing.
> > True, but there is a lot of overlap.
> > Same thing with socialism and communism. The definitions are
> > specific in some areas and vague in others.
> >
> > > Do your research.
> >
> > Depending upon where you look you will come up with a 100 or more
> > different, yet similar variations.
> >
> > --
> > pothead
> > Tommy Chong For President 2024
> > because crazy Joe Biden is demented.
> Carroll, 4/10/2015 4:04 PM:
> -----
> Cute trick... To the guy who hacked my Google account.
> -----
> No details. Seems to treat it as a joke.
>
> Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:02 PM, <https://goo.gl/51rsmZ>:
> -----
> Email Hacking Is A Serious Crime
> -----
> No longer "cute"... now it is a serious crime. OK.
>
> Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:07 PM:
> By now he is posting more links to how serious this crime against him
> is.
>
> Carroll, 4/10/2015 7:25 PM:
> -----
> I didn't write that.
> -----
> Now he is denying the posts from his own account. OK, he was "hacked".
> Someone else posted this. Hard to hack a gmail account given how they use
> two-step authentication and someone would need access to his phone or the
> like... but at least POSSIBLE.
>
> Even then, though, if someone tries to guess your password Google alerts
> you and lets you know what IP address and other info. I know because someone
> in a Denver internet cafe has tried mine on several occasions.
>
> Google even forces you to change your password when this happens. Very
> hard to hack these days.
>
> So already Carroll's story is unlikely.
>
> But let us accept it... someone somehow hacked his account bypassing the
> two step verification. This person did not, however, change his password
> and Carroll posted within an hour of the "hacker". Before that, unless
> he is an idiot, he changed his password and the "hacker" was locked out.
> The "hacker" got one post in.
>
> But Carroll could not leave his story there.
>
> Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:36 PM, <https://goo.gl/NJ2bMH>:
> -----
> Someone hacked my frelwizzen gmail acct so, for the time being,
> don't trust anything from it.
> -----
> Wait. What? Even after Carroll figured out this "hacker" who was too stupid
> to change his password had broken into his account and Carroll *surely*
> must have changed his own password, he is saying the "hacker" might still
> have access. Might be able to break Google's two-step verification process
> *again*.
>
> This is *very* unlikely... to the point of being unbelievable.
>
> Even worse for him: he notes which of his accounts he is claiming was
> hacked - but in the past he has denied even using the other accounts! LOL!
> He screwed up and made it very clear he has multiple accounts and felt
> the need to note which one. He made the same mistake in the next quote
> where he speaks of WHICH of his gmail accounts he is claiming was hacked.
> Oops! If he only posts with one there would be no need to specify which
> one!
>
> He has completely screwed up in his game to pretend he posts with only
> one gmail account. Completely idiotic of him, too!
>
> Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:38 PM, <https://goo.gl/YA7gMO>:
> -----
> Some mentally deficient child hacked my 'frelwizzen' gmail account
> so I may have to kill it. For the time being, don't assume
> anything that's coming from it was written by me.
> -----
> He is still saying that he may have to kill the account instead of just
> changing the password which anyone with half a brain would have already
> done (and Google *forces* you to do when someone even tries to hack your
> account... I know because someone in the Denver area has tried to hack
> mine multiple times... likely Carroll but I have no proof of this). And
> he specifies WHICH of his accounts! He is directly admitting he uses more
> than one account! His claim of being "forged" with his second account is
> a lie. Proved.
>
> Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:40 PM, <https://goo.gl/j6yCuV>:
> -----
> Looks like it's still being hacked despite me taking precautions,
> I may have to kill the account.
> -----
> What makes it look like its still being hacked? And what precautions other
> than changing the two-step verification options does he need? And how would
> someone bypass this... is he really on the NSA watch list? Seems you would
> need someone at that level to be doing this. He watches too much TV where
> they computer hackers spend thirty seconds and bypass all security.
>
> Just nonsense.
>
> Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:05 PM: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/5QXJHXq8d1k/ujK_-
> 8ZYUnwJ
> -----
> Apparently Google is having issues with their accounts to the
> point where they're ready to undertake some additional measures.
> -----
> But, of course, no evidence of this... and what measures? They already
> alert users if someone else tries to guess your password and use two-step
> authentication and even force you to make a new password if it seems someone
> is trying to hack you.
> -----
> They're now involving several federal agencies in things they
> didn't bother with previously in an effort to deal with people who
> hack into accounts. They've asked me to leave the account open.
> -----
> So now Google is letting Carroll know how they are handling these things
> - and asking him to leave a *hacked* account open... one someone can be
> using to steal his identity. No. This does not pass the sniff test in any
> way. Even if they were doing this for some bizarre sting operation, which
> is in itself far fetched, they would have told Carroll to not make it public
> information so the hacker would not know.
>
> Just insanity. His own story is so idiotic and full of idiotic claims
> it simply cannot be true. Carroll uses his secondary Google account - the
> one he accesses via Tor and is referred to as his Tor account - to have
> plausible deniability for things he says there. Now he is working to do
> the same thing with his main account. Maybe Carroll read a report like
> this: <http://cnnmon.ie/111QeT8> [money.com]. If so he missed the part
> where they note if you are *really* hacked, which is rare, the hackers
> change your password and lock you out. Why would they not?
> -----
> There's some new legislation that will help them deal with this
> issue... which probably means more BS for us ;)
> -----
> Yes, new legislation to make sure Carroll does not have to deal with "hackers"
> and "forgers" which do not even exist.
>
> The funny part is, this happened shortly after someone in the Denver area,
> likely Carroll, tried to guess *my* passwords and they did it from an Internet
> café (Google tells you the IP and that can be used to trace back).
>
> My guess: Carroll is the one who was working to guess my password and
> figured this new lie of his was a good way to deny his own words even more
> than he does with his Tor account *and* a way to make it so if I had talked
> about him trying to hack my account he could say I was just copying his
> comments. "Proving" I read his posts... which for now I am to see how absurd
> his lies are. :)
>
> Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:25 PM:
> -----
> The person who hacked into my Gmail acct. changed the wording on
> this post. I've removed the others but Google asked me to leave
> one standing for some odd reason.
> -----
> Here Carroll claims the hacker changed the wording on a post of his from
> *before* he had even claimed he was hacked. So this hacker not only can
> *post* for him but edit his old Usenet posts.
>
> I call utter bullshit on this. Out and out lie from Carroll. And then
> Carroll says Google asked him to not delete these "hacked" posts... this
> is nonsense. Why would Google want him to leave forged posts in the public
> and why would Google not just keep their own copy? Even Carroll notes it
> is for "some odd reason" - yeah, because Carroll is telling stories that
> make *no* sense at all.
>
> Carroll is lying. Maybe there is some kernel of truth to his stories?
> Even if so - and frankly it is unlikely he will ever show any evidence
> to back his claims - the details he is posting are absurd.
>
> Carroll, 4/11/2015 2:10 PM:
> -----
> And he's so high he thinks people still have to manually enter all
> their passwords in whenever they want to use anything that's been
> password protected ;)
> -----
> Nobody had suggested, hinted, implied, or said anything like what Carroll
> says they did.
>
> Maybe his story will be someone stole his laptop (or mobile device) and
> he had his passwords saved? If so why not have the device deactivated remotely?
> Why has he not said anything about this?
>
> My guess: he realizes he screwed up when trying to guess my passwords
> and is now building a story so he can say his computer was stolen and it
> was not him. Or, LOL, maybe someone broke into his house and did it.
>
> This unknown hacker knew he was obsessed with me and carried on acting
> like him. Makes complete sense, eh?
>
> Carroll, 4/12/2015 8:45 AM, <https://goo.gl/KMf4pa>:
> -----
> The first one, that has since been deleted. My bad for having such
> a feeble password on this account.
> -----
> Now he suggests it was merely from someone guessing his password - which
> contradicts his above insinuations that it could have been from a saved
> password on a device he had.
>
> His story changes with the telling.
>
> But as noted, when someone tries to guess your password Google has ways
> to deal with it. I know - Carroll or someone in his neck of the woods recently
> tried it with me.
>
> Carroll, 4/12/2015 9:29 AM:
> -----
> The account in question here is a gmail account. Contrary to
> Snit's delusions, I have no idea what a TOR account looks like but
> it's a good bet it doesn't bear much of a resemblance to a gmail
> account.
> -----
> Here Carroll plays stupid and pretends that if when he or anyone uses
> the Tor browser *Carroll* pointed to this somehow changes the way the gmail
> interface looks. Um, no. Worse it might do is make Google think you are
> in another country and you would have to set it back to English. But the
> basic look stays the same.
>
> He is playing stupid and pretending to not know how the Tor browser he
> pointed to works. Just idiotic of him.
> -----
> That idiocy aside, I love how Snit has repeatedly, for years,
> feigned ignorance about gmail accounts, yet, he keeps disclosing
> info that proves he knows about them. Some fools do stuff like
> this when they believe people are as stupid as the fool needs them
> to be ;)
> -----
> I do not think Google would allow you to edit your Usenet / groups posts
> but I do not use it much and do not know for sure. Seems absurd that they
> would... and others have now said they do not. But given how I do not use
> Google Groups for posting why would I know the details of their system
> for certain?
>
> Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:47 PM:
> -----
> Your obsession with me is insane. Working with Google I now have
> proof you and ebot worked together to hack me. Clever. If I press
> charges against you I have to also include her so you remain safe
> for now.
>
> Do not think this is over.
> -----
>
> No evidence of working with Google on this (and all out and out lies).
> Carroll is making public threats based on lies.
>
> Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:50 PM:
> -----
> I promised COLA your trolling days were over so you contacted ebot
> and worked with her to hack my account. I might not be able to get
> your ass handed to you in court over this but wait until your boss
> at Yavapai College contacts you.
>
> Maybe you should make that call first. Ask about your comments on
> incest.
>
> See if those can not be quoted.
> -----
>
> Direct lies and threats by Carroll.
>
> Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:51 PM:
> -----
> You went too far this time Snit. We have trolled each other for
> years but to contact ebot and get her to help you hack my account
> was over a line.
> -----
>
> A complete and utter lie from Carroll.
>
> Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:52 PM:
> -----
> The above post is Snit hacking my account.
> -----
> A complete and utter lie... more false accusations from him.
>
> Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:53 PM:
> -----
> You edited those posts when you hacked my account. Do not trust
> anything from my frelwizzen account now that Snit and ebot have
> access to it.
> -----
> More unsupported claims and attacks by Carroll.
>
> Carroll, 4/16/2015 8:56 PM:
> -----
> Working with Google I now have proof Snit and ebot hacked the
> account. Many of the older posts were edited. You can see evidence
> of this by Snit pointing to "old" posts which have been modified to
> say I claimed I was his "personal newsgroup rapist", a phrase I
> have never used.
> -----
>
> No evidence of Carroll working with Google. No evidence of any older posts
> being edited.
>
> --
> My Snoring Solution
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.photo.digital/c/e7iwP04xhNU>
> Dustin Cook: Functional Illiterate Fraud

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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 8:47:27 PM UTC-7, Ann Glaser wrote:
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:22:43 PM UTC-7, pothead wrote:
> > On 2022-01-07, John Dough <jo...@dough.fake> wrote:
> > > On 2022-01-04, Steve Carroll <frelw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> How would you understand me if you understand there is a possibility
> > >> that Snot / Snit uses forged accounts? That actually clicks for you?
> > >> This is the classic 'rule' by those calling themselves 'liberals', you
> > >> must 'pH test' yourself, you are no longer presumed innocent, you're
> > >> tossed to the hounds until you clear your name... a thing that isn't
> > >> possible in this scenario. Being decentralized as it is, bulletin boards
> > >> will never go away but it'll never be what your grandfather would use.
> > >>
> > >> Snot / Snit never takes culpability for his own posts. Quotes that are
> > >> easily seen to be trolling.
> > >
> > > Liberals and progressives are not the same thing.
> > True, but there is a lot of overlap.
> > Same thing with socialism and communism. The definitions are
> > specific in some areas and vague in others.
> >
> > > Do your research.
> >
> > Depending upon where you look you will come up with a 100 or more
> > different, yet similar variations.
> >
> > --
> > pothead
> > Tommy Chong For President 2024
> > because crazy Joe Biden is demented.
> Despite Meat's claim that he has "no enthusiasm in making trouble" (a lie
> as demonstrated by the fact that he annoyed everyone in COLA) he was quoted
> asking programmers how they would do a DDOS attack. Steve Carroll can create
> a virtual machine. Makes Meat cry because he can not.
>
> Why would Steve Carroll understand me if you trust there's a possibility
> that Meat uses forged accounts? That actually clicks for you? This is the
> new 'model' by those calling themselves 'liberals', you must 'pH test' yourself,
> you are no longer merely suspected, you're tossed away until you prove a
> negative, which is not possible in this situation. Ha, ha! I reported him
> years ago. As expected, it did naught to thwart the boob.
>
> Meat has yet to show how Scrivener does anything above the minimum on Linux.
>
> --
> Eight things to never feed your dog!
> https://winthropmemorials.org/veterans/eightnames/files/Eight-Names-Winthrops-
> VietnamVeterans-Pinzur.pdf
> https://swisscows.com/web?query=steve%20carroll%20%22narcissistic%20bigot%22
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Steve+Petruzzellis%3A+narcissistic+bigot
> Dustin Cook the functionally illiterate fraud

The most obvious answer: Nospam's consumed recreational drugs since then,
and 'forgot'. The full buffoonery is chock-full of bizarre gaps and counts
heavily on Nospam's 'master's degree' nonsense. Nospam is a narcissistic
lunatic who repeatedly claims anyone who disagrees with Snit to be a
sock and, somehow, he needs us to believe that is reasonable. Gotta be
drugs. Hope Nospam likes the view in the packed cesspit of my rubbish
bin. Steven "Narcissistic Bigot" Petruzzellis. Search for 'functionally
illiterate fraud' and Dustin Cook pops up: <https://www.bing.com/search?q=Dustin+Cook+the+functionally+illiterate+fraud>.
Are you being like Nospam on purpose?

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computers / comp.sys.mac.advocacy / Re: Ping Apd: Hacking NNTP protocol tweaks

Subject	Author
Re: Ping Apd: Hacking NNTP protocol tweaks	John Dough
Re: Ping Apd: Hacking NNTP protocol tweaks	pothead
Re: Ping Apd: Hacking NNTP protocol tweaks	William Topper
Re: Ping Apd: Hacking NNTP protocol tweaks	Stefen Carroll
Re: Ping Apd: Hacking NNTP protocol tweaks	Ann Glaser
Re: Ping Apd: Hacking NNTP protocol tweaks	Michael Glasser
Re: Ping Apd: Hacking NNTP protocol tweaks	Michael Glasser