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by: Richmond - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 16:05 UTC

Is Redhat violating this clause of the GPL?

"When you convey a covered work, you waive any legal power to forbid
circumvention of technological measures to the extent such circumvention
is effected by exercising rights under this License with respect to the
covered work, and you disclaim any intention to limit operation or
modification of the work as a means of enforcing, against the work's
users, your or third parties' legal rights to forbid circumvention of
technological measures."

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by: Don Spam's Reck - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 16:45 UTC

Richmond wrote:
> Is Redhat violating this clause of the GPL?
>
> "When you convey a covered work, you waive any legal power to forbid
> circumvention of technological measures to the extent such circumvention
> is effected by exercising rights under this License with respect to the
> covered work, and you disclaim any intention to limit operation or
> modification of the work as a means of enforcing, against the work's
> users, your or third parties' legal rights to forbid circumvention of
> technological measures."
>

IBM has the bigger lawyers, but we'll see if this hurts their bottom line.

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by: Carlos E.R. - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 18:38 UTC

On 2023-07-11 18:05, Richmond wrote:
> Is Redhat violating this clause of the GPL?
>
> "When you convey a covered work, you waive any legal power to forbid
> circumvention of technological measures to the extent such circumvention
> is effected by exercising rights under this License with respect to the
> covered work, and you disclaim any intention to limit operation or
> modification of the work as a means of enforcing, against the work's
> users, your or third parties' legal rights to forbid circumvention of
> technological measures."

https://www.suse.com/news/SUSE-Preserves-Choice-in-Enterprise-Linux/
https://www.suse.com/c/at-suse-we-make-choice-happen/

https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Faq

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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by: Richmond - Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:06 UTC

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:

> On 2023-07-11 18:05, Richmond wrote:
>> Is Redhat violating this clause of the GPL?
>> "When you convey a covered work, you waive any legal power to forbid
>> circumvention of technological measures to the extent such circumvention
>> is effected by exercising rights under this License with respect to the
>> covered work, and you disclaim any intention to limit operation or
>> modification of the work as a means of enforcing, against the work's
>> users, your or third parties' legal rights to forbid circumvention of
>> technological measures."
>
> https://www.suse.com/news/SUSE-Preserves-Choice-in-Enterprise-Linux/
> https://www.suse.com/c/at-suse-we-make-choice-happen/
>
> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Faq

As far as I can tell these links don't answer the question.

What happens if a RHEL subscriber posts all the RHEL source code on an
open server?

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by: Carlos E.R. - Wed, 12 Jul 2023 11:05 UTC

On 2023-07-12 12:06, Richmond wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>> On 2023-07-11 18:05, Richmond wrote:
>>> Is Redhat violating this clause of the GPL?
>>> "When you convey a covered work, you waive any legal power to forbid
>>> circumvention of technological measures to the extent such circumvention
>>> is effected by exercising rights under this License with respect to the
>>> covered work, and you disclaim any intention to limit operation or
>>> modification of the work as a means of enforcing, against the work's
>>> users, your or third parties' legal rights to forbid circumvention of
>>> technological measures."
>>
>> https://www.suse.com/news/SUSE-Preserves-Choice-in-Enterprise-Linux/
>> https://www.suse.com/c/at-suse-we-make-choice-happen/
>>
>> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Faq
>
> As far as I can tell these links don't answer the question.
>
> What happens if a RHEL subscriber posts all the RHEL source code on an
> open server?

You'd better ask that in a RHEL group, not in an openSUSE/SUSE one. ;-)

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by: Don Spam's Reck - Wed, 12 Jul 2023 11:40 UTC

Richmond wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2023-07-11 18:05, Richmond wrote:
>>> Is Redhat violating this clause of the GPL?
>>> "When you convey a covered work, you waive any legal power to forbid
>>> circumvention of technological measures to the extent such circumvention
>>> is effected by exercising rights under this License with respect to the
>>> covered work, and you disclaim any intention to limit operation or
>>> modification of the work as a means of enforcing, against the work's
>>> users, your or third parties' legal rights to forbid circumvention of
>>> technological measures."
>>
>> https://www.suse.com/news/SUSE-Preserves-Choice-in-Enterprise-Linux/
>> https://www.suse.com/c/at-suse-we-make-choice-happen/
>>
>> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Faq
>
> As far as I can tell these links don't answer the question.
>
> What happens if a RHEL subscriber posts all the RHEL source code on an
> open server?
>

If you had followed this story at all you would have noticed that a
couple of "RH satellite" distributions have every intention of seeing
that question answered empirically.

Subject	Author
SUSE RHEL	Richmond
Re: SUSE RHEL	Don Spam's Reckless Son
Re: SUSE RHEL	Carlos E.R.
Re: SUSE RHEL	Richmond
Re: SUSE RHEL	Carlos E.R.
Re: SUSE RHEL	Don Spam's Reckless Son