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* Pi 5 and NVMe SSDRichard Kettlewell
+- Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDThe Natural Philosopher
+* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDPancho
|`* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDdruck
| +* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDPancho
| |`* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDAndy Burns
| | `* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDPancho
| |  +* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDPancho
| |  |`* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDAndy Burns
| |  | `* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDPancho
| |  |  `* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDTheo
| |  |   `- Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDPancho
| |  `* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDdruck
| |   `- Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDPancho
| +* Pi 5 and NVMe SSDGuido Giorgi
| |`- Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDdruck
| `* Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDAhem A Rivet's Shot
|  `- Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDdruck
`- Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSDRichard Kettlewell

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 by: Richard Kettlewell - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:21 UTC

I’m expecting to free up an NVMe SSD soon, and my Pi 5 is currently
making do with an SD card, so I’ve been looking into options for putting
the two together.

Has anyone used this case?

https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/argon-neo-5-m-2-nvme-pcie-case-for-raspberry-pi-5

Another easily discoverable option is:

https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/nvme-base

....but I think I’d need a new case and I’ve not yet managed to find one
that’s likely to fit.

Are there any other good options out there?

--
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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Subject: Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSD
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:54 UTC

On 21/02/2024 12:21, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> I’m expecting to free up an NVMe SSD soon, and my Pi 5 is currently
> making do with an SD card, so I’ve been looking into options for putting
> the two together.
>
>
> Has anyone used this case?
>
> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/argon-neo-5-m-2-nvme-pcie-case-for-raspberry-pi-5
>
>
> Another easily discoverable option is:
>
> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/nvme-base
>
> ...but I think I’d need a new case and I’ve not yet managed to find one
> that’s likely to fit.
>
>
> Are there any other good options out there?
>
Print your own Richard. That's what I will be doing :-)

Alternatively wait a couple of months till I have proven my design...it
should fit an NVME equipped Pi 5, although it's designed for three SATA
SSDs.

--
The higher up the mountainside
The greener grows the grass.
The higher up the monkey climbs
The more he shows his arse.

Traditional

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 by: Pancho - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:42 UTC

On 21/02/2024 12:21, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> I’m expecting to free up an NVMe SSD soon, and my Pi 5 is currently
> making do with an SD card, so I’ve been looking into options for putting
> the two together.
>
>
> Has anyone used this case?
>
> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/argon-neo-5-m-2-nvme-pcie-case-for-raspberry-pi-5
>
>
> Another easily discoverable option is:
>
> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/nvme-base
>
> ...but I think I’d need a new case and I’ve not yet managed to find one
> that’s likely to fit.
>
>
> Are there any other good options out there?
>

I don't know about cases, but the rPi5 £5 official active cooler is
good. Good in that it cools passively, with the fan only spinning up
momentarily at startup and under extreme load (in my case only under a
stress test).

The cooler provides quite a lot of protection to the top of the board, I
assume the nvme-base will protect the base.

So the need for additional case protection just comes down to the 40 pin
gpio, and how much you want to press the on off button (tricky without a
case).

I got rid of my desire for an nvme with my opi5. Due to being PCIe 1
lane, it wasn't that much faster, and there was significant additional
effort installing the OS, compared to a micro SD. Obviously, you may
have a different use-case.

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 by: druck - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 20:51 UTC

On 21/02/2024 17:42, Pancho wrote:
> I got rid of my desire for an nvme with my opi5. Due to being PCIe 1
> lane, it wasn't that much faster,

That surprises me, could anyone with an NVMe base run this script which
measures the maximum sequential and random access read/write speeds.
You'll need to install the fio package and be in a directory on the disc
under test.

#!/bin/bash
TESTFILE=fio-tempfile.dat
fio --name SeqRead --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=read\
--size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=1024k --ioengine=libaio\
--fsync=10000 --iodepth=32 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30\
--group_reporting | grep bw=
fio --name SeqWrite --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=write\
--size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=1024k --ioengine=libaio\
--fsync=10000 --iodepth=32 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30\
--group_reporting | grep bw=
fio --name RndRead --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=randread\
--size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=4k --ioengine=libaio --fsync=1\
--iodepth=1 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30 --group_reporting\
| grep bw=
fio --name RndWrite --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE--rw=randwrite\
--size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=4k --ioengine=libaio --fsync=1\
--iodepth=1 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30 --group_reporting\
| grep bw=
rm $TESTFILE

> and there was significant additional
> effort installing the OS, compared to a micro SD. Obviously, you may
> have a different use-case.

More than dd'ing the SD card image on to the NVMe, using gparted to
expand the linux partition, and then changing the boot device in
/boot/cmdline.txt and /etc/fstab ?

---druck

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 by: Pancho - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 23:19 UTC

On 21/02/2024 20:51, druck wrote:
> On 21/02/2024 17:42, Pancho wrote:
>> I got rid of my desire for an nvme with my opi5. Due to being PCIe 1
>> lane, it wasn't that much faster,
>
> That surprises me, could anyone with an NVMe base run this script which
> measures the maximum sequential and random access read/write speeds.
> You'll need to install the fio package and be in a directory on the disc
> under test.
>

I posted some stats back in December ( hdparm -Ttv), on the opi5 the
nvme was only giving 186 MB/s seq read, not that much more than a USB3
SSD at 137 MB/s.

I think, like the oPi5, the rPi5 also has the handicap that it only
allocates PCIe 3.0 x 1 to nvme.

So yes, nvme is faster in benchmarks, but nowhere near the 3000MB/s you
might see on a PC.

Perhaps more pertinently, the user experience improvement using the Pi
as an HTPC was negligible. I guess the performance I care about wasn't
constrained by disk read speed. So now I just run a SD card for the OS,
and pretty much everything else is NAS anyway.

I'm actually really happy with the rPi5 as a HTPC. I'm sitting in front
of the TV typing this.

> #!/bin/bash
> TESTFILE=fio-tempfile.dat
> fio --name SeqRead --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=read\
>  --size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=1024k --ioengine=libaio\
>  --fsync=10000 --iodepth=32 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30\
>  --group_reporting | grep bw=
> fio --name SeqWrite --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=write\
>  --size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=1024k --ioengine=libaio\
>  --fsync=10000 --iodepth=32 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30\
>  --group_reporting | grep bw=
> fio --name RndRead --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=randread\
>  --size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=4k --ioengine=libaio --fsync=1\
>  --iodepth=1 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30 --group_reporting\
>  | grep bw=
> fio --name RndWrite --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE--rw=randwrite\
>  --size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=4k --ioengine=libaio --fsync=1\
>  --iodepth=1 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30 --group_reporting\
>  | grep bw=
> rm $TESTFILE
>
>> and there was significant additional effort installing the OS,
>> compared to a micro SD. Obviously, you may have a different use-case.
>
> More than dd'ing the SD card image on to the NVMe, using gparted to
> expand the linux partition, and then changing the boot device in
> /boot/cmdline.txt and /etc/fstab ?
>

On the oPi5 there was DD (which I hate), and editing files on the boot
partition, on the onboard persistent ram. Not difficult, but still
enough to make mistakes. Whereas the Raspberry Pi Imager makes writing a
SD card really easy.

I've got at least one spare nvme sitting around, I'm not going to put it
on the rPi5.

My oPi5 is also booting off micro SD even though it has an nvme drive.
If Armbian ever rollout a stable version for the oPi5 I will stick it on
the nvme again, but I did it so many times I got pissed off.

In stark contrast, Pi OS has been solid on the rPi5.

> ---druck

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 by: Guido Giorgi - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:22 UTC

Hello druck!

21 Feb 24 20:51, you wrote to Pancho:

dr> On 21/02/2024 17:42, Pancho wrote:
>> I got rid of my desire for an nvme with my opi5. Due to being PCIe 1
>> lane, it wasn't that much faster,

dr> That surprises me, could anyone with an NVMe base run this script
dr> which measures the maximum sequential and random access read/write
dr> speeds. You'll need to install the fio package and be in a directory
dr> on the disc under test.

dr> #!/bin/bash
dr> TESTFILE=fio-tempfile.dat
dr> fio --name SeqRead --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=read\
dr> --size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=1024k --ioengine=libaio\
dr> --fsync=10000 --iodepth=32 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30\
dr> --group_reporting | grep bw=
dr> fio --name SeqWrite --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=write\
dr> --size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=1024k --ioengine=libaio\
dr> --fsync=10000 --iodepth=32 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30\
dr> --group_reporting | grep bw=
dr> fio --name RndRead --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE
dr> --rw=randread\ --size=500m --io_size=10g --blocksize=4k
dr> --ioengine=libaio --fsync=1\ --iodepth=1 --direct=1 --numjobs=1
dr> --runtime=30 --group_reporting\ | grep bw= fio --name RndWrite
dr> --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE--rw=randwrite\ --size=500m
dr> --io_size=10g --blocksize=4k --ioengine=libaio --fsync=1\ --iodepth=1
dr> --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=30 --group_reporting\ | grep bw= rm
dr> $TESTFILE

>> and there was significant additional
>> effort installing the OS, compared to a micro SD. Obviously, you may
>> have a different use-case.

dr> More than dd'ing the SD card image on to the NVMe, using gparted to
dr> expand the linux partition, and then changing the boot device in
dr> /boot/cmdline.txt and /etc/fstab ?

dr> ---druck

dr> --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
dr> * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway
dr> (3:770/3)

Here's the output of your script tested on my Pi5 with NVMe SSD:

READ: bw=850MiB/s (891MB/s), 850MiB/s-850MiB/s (891MB/s-891MB/s), io=10.0GiB
(10.7GB), run=12046-12046msec
WRITE: bw=746MiB/s (782MB/s), 746MiB/s-746MiB/s (782MB/s-782MB/s), io=10.0GiB
(10.7GB), run=13727-13727msec
READ: bw=64.6MiB/s (67.7MB/s), 64.6MiB/s-64.6MiB/s (67.7MB/s-67.7MB/s),
io=1937MiB (2031MB), run=30000-30000msec
READ: bw=223MiB/s (234MB/s), 223MiB/s-223MiB/s (234MB/s-234MB/s), io=6684MiB
(7008MB), run=30000-30000msec

Guido

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 by: Andy Burns - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 00:17 UTC

Pancho wrote:

> I posted some stats back in December ( hdparm -Ttv), on the opi5 the
> nvme was only giving 186 MB/s seq read, not that much more than a USB3
> SSD at 137 MB/s.
>
> I think, like the oPi5, the rPi5 also has the handicap that it only
> allocates PCIe 3.0 x 1 to nvme.
>
> So yes, nvme is faster in benchmarks, but nowhere near the 3000MB/s you
> might see on a PC.

I think Jeff Geerling saw 900MB/s ?

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 by: Pancho - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 10:00 UTC

On 22/02/2024 00:17, Andy Burns wrote:
> Pancho wrote:
>
>> I posted some stats back in December ( hdparm -Ttv), on the opi5 the
>> nvme was only giving 186 MB/s seq read, not that much more than a USB3
>> SSD at 137 MB/s.
>>
>> I think, like the oPi5, the rPi5 also has the handicap that it only
>> allocates PCIe 3.0 x 1 to nvme.
>>
>> So yes, nvme is faster in benchmarks, but nowhere near the 3000MB/s
>> you might see on a PC.
>
> I think Jeff Geerling saw 900MB/s ?

Remember, I'm testing nvme on an Orange Pi 5 not a Raspberry Pi 5, but,
I feel quite inadequate. However, it is what I get.

Here are the results from druck's script:

READ: bw=200MiB/s (209MB/s), 200MiB/s-200MiB/s (209MB/s-209MB/s),
io=6000MiB (6291MB), run=30060-30060msec
WRITE: bw=199MiB/s (209MB/s), 199MiB/s-199MiB/s (209MB/s-209MB/s),
io=6000MiB (6291MB), run=30085-30085msec
READ: bw=36.0MiB/s (37.8MB/s), 36.0MiB/s-36.0MiB/s
(37.8MB/s-37.8MB/s), io=1081MiB (1133MB), run=30001-30001msec
READ: bw=48.1MiB/s (50.4MB/s), 48.1MiB/s-48.1MiB/s
(50.4MB/s-50.4MB/s), io=1443MiB (1513MB), run=30001-30001msec

Maybe my result is so bad because I'm only using a KingSpec nvme drive?
It's supposed to do 3500MB/s, but I've never tested it in anything that
could handle that.

I'm not going to use a top range drive on a Pi. The Orange Pi isn't
doing anything else, isn't busy.

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 10:53 UTC

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 20:51:31 +0000
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

> fio --name SeqRead --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=read\
> --size=500m

Shouldn't that file size be much larger to prevent it from being
cached ? I get ridiculous numbers trying that script on a PC.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

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 by: Pancho - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 11:23 UTC

On 22/02/2024 10:00, Pancho wrote:
> On 22/02/2024 00:17, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Pancho wrote:
>>
>>> I posted some stats back in December ( hdparm -Ttv), on the opi5 the
>>> nvme was only giving 186 MB/s seq read, not that much more than a
>>> USB3 SSD at 137 MB/s.
>>>
>>> I think, like the oPi5, the rPi5 also has the handicap that it only
>>> allocates PCIe 3.0 x 1 to nvme.
>>>
>>> So yes, nvme is faster in benchmarks, but nowhere near the 3000MB/s
>>> you might see on a PC.
>>
>> I think Jeff Geerling saw 900MB/s ?
>
> Remember, I'm testing nvme on an Orange Pi 5 not a Raspberry Pi 5, but,
> I feel quite inadequate. However, it is what I get.
>
> Here are the results from druck's script:
>
>   READ: bw=200MiB/s (209MB/s), 200MiB/s-200MiB/s (209MB/s-209MB/s),
> io=6000MiB (6291MB), run=30060-30060msec
>   WRITE: bw=199MiB/s (209MB/s), 199MiB/s-199MiB/s (209MB/s-209MB/s),
> io=6000MiB (6291MB), run=30085-30085msec
>    READ: bw=36.0MiB/s (37.8MB/s), 36.0MiB/s-36.0MiB/s
> (37.8MB/s-37.8MB/s), io=1081MiB (1133MB), run=30001-30001msec
>    READ: bw=48.1MiB/s (50.4MB/s), 48.1MiB/s-48.1MiB/s
> (50.4MB/s-50.4MB/s), io=1443MiB (1513MB), run=30001-30001msec
>
>
> Maybe my result is so bad because I'm only using a KingSpec nvme drive?
> It's supposed to do 3500MB/s, but I've never tested it in anything that
> could handle that.
>
> I'm not going to use a top range drive on a Pi. The Orange Pi isn't
> doing anything else, isn't busy.

I was curious, so I did a bit of digging, it appears my nvme drive is
running as PCIe gen 1. The oPi5 should be gen 3, The nvme drive should
be gen 3.

$ lspci | grep -i nvme

0004:41:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: MAXIO Technology (Hangzhou)
Ltd. NVMe SSD Controller MAP1202 (rev 01)

$ sudo lspci -vv -s 0004:41:00.0 | grep LnkSta

LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s (downgraded), Width x1 (downgraded)
LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -3.5dB, EqualizationComplete
EqualizationPhase1-

Which, from my poor understanding, implies a theoretical top speed of
250MB/s for 1 lane. Which is consistent with my real world tests.

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 by: Andy Burns - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 11:50 UTC

Pancho wrote:

> I was curious, so I did a bit of digging, it appears my nvme drive is
> running as PCIe gen 1. The oPi5 should be gen 3, The nvme drive should
> be gen 3.

I don't have an rpi5, but they also default to gen1, a config.txt option
can force gen3

dtparam=pciex1_gen=3

does an opi5 have similar?

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 by: Pancho - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 14:13 UTC

On 22/02/2024 11:50, Andy Burns wrote:
> Pancho wrote:
>
>> I was curious, so I did a bit of digging, it appears my nvme drive is
>> running as PCIe gen 1. The oPi5 should be gen 3, The nvme drive should
>> be gen 3.
>
> I don't have an rpi5, but they also default to gen1, a config.txt option
> can force gen3
>
> dtparam=pciex1_gen=3
>
> does an opi5 have similar?
>

I looked, I tried, I failed!

I tried adding the following line to /boot/armbianEnv.txt

'''
dtoverlay=pcie-gen2
'''

I also tried editing the dtb overlay:
/boot/dtb/rockchip/rk3588s-orangepi-5.dtb

which was already configured for gen 2

Seriously, the oPi5 looks like a brilliant device, it feels like a
brilliant device, but nothing quite works properly, my advice is to buy
the rPi5, every time.

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 by: Theo - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 20:57 UTC

Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
> I looked, I tried, I failed!
>
> I tried adding the following line to /boot/armbianEnv.txt
>
> '''
> dtoverlay=pcie-gen2
> '''

I can't speak for Armbian, but config.txt is a RPi thing - it's config for
the GPU (originally) or boot firmware (4+) to set things up, rather than
Linux. I don't know what the oPis do, but unless they clone rPi settings I
wouldn't expect it to work.

> I also tried editing the dtb overlay:
> /boot/dtb/rockchip/rk3588s-orangepi-5.dtb
>
> which was already configured for gen 2

That may well make a difference, but don't know how they set up PCIe.
Also, devices start up as gen1 and then mutually agree to upgrade. Perhaps
something isn't right to do that. I don't know if it's firmware or Linux
upgrading, but maybe look at dmesg for anything eith 'pci' in it for clues?
Signal integrity can be a reason for the upgrade to fail.

> Seriously, the oPi5 looks like a brilliant device, it feels like a
> brilliant device, but nothing quite works properly, my advice is to buy
> the rPi5, every time.

That's my general feeling. I think Armbian are trying to increase their
level of support for various board, but they are just volunteers with no
help from vendors.

Theo

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 by: druck - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:03 UTC

On 21/02/2024 10:22, Guido Giorgi wrote:
[Snip non standard quoting]

> Here's the output of your script tested on my Pi5 with NVMe SSD:
>
> READ: bw=850MiB/s (891MB/s), 850MiB/s-850MiB/s (891MB/s-891MB/s), io=10.0GiB
> (10.7GB), run=12046-12046msec
> WRITE: bw=746MiB/s (782MB/s), 746MiB/s-746MiB/s (782MB/s-782MB/s), io=10.0GiB
> (10.7GB), run=13727-13727msec
> READ: bw=64.6MiB/s (67.7MB/s), 64.6MiB/s-64.6MiB/s (67.7MB/s-67.7MB/s),
> io=1937MiB (2031MB), run=30000-30000msec
> READ: bw=223MiB/s (234MB/s), 223MiB/s-223MiB/s (234MB/s-234MB/s), io=6684MiB
> (7008MB), run=30000-30000msec

The first 3 lines look good, the last one should be a random write, not
a read, so I fear the script didn't make it out of the post intact.

---druck

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 by: druck - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:05 UTC

On 22/02/2024 10:00, Pancho wrote:
> Here are the results from druck's script:
>
>   READ: bw=200MiB/s (209MB/s), 200MiB/s-200MiB/s (209MB/s-209MB/s),
> io=6000MiB (6291MB), run=30060-30060msec
>   WRITE: bw=199MiB/s (209MB/s), 199MiB/s-199MiB/s (209MB/s-209MB/s),
> io=6000MiB (6291MB), run=30085-30085msec
>    READ: bw=36.0MiB/s (37.8MB/s), 36.0MiB/s-36.0MiB/s
> (37.8MB/s-37.8MB/s), io=1081MiB (1133MB), run=30001-30001msec
>    READ: bw=48.1MiB/s (50.4MB/s), 48.1MiB/s-48.1MiB/s
> (50.4MB/s-50.4MB/s), io=1443MiB (1513MB), run=30001-30001msec
Check the line breaks didn't get messed up, as the last line should be
WRITE.
---druck

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Subject: Re: Pi 5 and NVMe SSD
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 by: druck - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:08 UTC

On 22/02/2024 10:53, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 20:51:31 +0000
> druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> fio --name SeqRead --eta-newline=5s --filename=$TESTFILE --rw=read\
>> --size=500m
>
> Shouldn't that file size be much larger to prevent it from being
> cached ? I get ridiculous numbers trying that script on a PC.

Yes, that script was on a Pi with an SD card, so didn't want to spend
too much of it's write life. Try with 2g for an SSD.

---druck

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 by: Pancho - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:37 UTC

On 22/02/2024 22:05, druck wrote:
> On 22/02/2024 10:00, Pancho wrote:
>> Here are the results from druck's script:
>>
>>    READ: bw=200MiB/s (209MB/s), 200MiB/s-200MiB/s (209MB/s-209MB/s),
>> io=6000MiB (6291MB), run=30060-30060msec
>>    WRITE: bw=199MiB/s (209MB/s), 199MiB/s-199MiB/s (209MB/s-209MB/s),
>> io=6000MiB (6291MB), run=30085-30085msec
>>     READ: bw=36.0MiB/s (37.8MB/s), 36.0MiB/s-36.0MiB/s
>> (37.8MB/s-37.8MB/s), io=1081MiB (1133MB), run=30001-30001msec
>>     READ: bw=48.1MiB/s (50.4MB/s), 48.1MiB/s-48.1MiB/s
>> (50.4MB/s-50.4MB/s), io=1443MiB (1513MB), run=30001-30001msec
>
> Check the line breaks didn't get messed up, as the last line should be
> WRITE.
>
> ---druck

=$TESTFILE--rw=randwrite

should be

=$TESTFILE --rw=randwrite

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 by: Pancho - Fri, 23 Feb 2024 13:10 UTC

On 22/02/2024 20:57, Theo wrote:

>
> That's my general feeling. I think Armbian are trying to increase their
> level of support for various board, but they are just volunteers with no
> help from vendors.
>

Yep, for clarity, I don't want to slag off Armbian. So far, Armbian is
the best distro I've tried for the oPi5. My main gripe is the lack of
hardware support, i.e. a good GPU driver, which is something outside
Armbian's scope.

I don't really care about the NVME running gen 1. Maybe I will buy a
NVME base for the rPi5, when the official case is adapted to work with it.

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 by: Richard Kettlewell - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 14:25 UTC

Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
> I’m expecting to free up an NVMe SSD soon, and my Pi 5 is currently
> making do with an SD card, so I’ve been looking into options for
> putting the two together.
>
>
> Has anyone used this case?
>
> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/argon-neo-5-m-2-nvme-pcie-case-for-raspberry-pi-5

I’ve ordered one of these.

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