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Re: Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue

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Subject: Re:_Gödel_sentence_in_the_1931_incompleteness_proof
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From: donstock...@hotmail.com (Don Stockbauer)
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 by: Don Stockbauer - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 05:41 UTC

lol On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 9:22:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 5:56:55 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> > > >
> > > > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> > > Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
> > >
> > > nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
> > I can't tell from your post whether you approve of me posting here or you don't approve . in any case I've posted more worthwhile stuff to this group than most people have.
> >
> > I was just saying back when you thought about coming here you could never find your passport ; I do agree with you that it's a dumb idea unless you wanted to tour the Grand Canyon or do other sightseeing.
> from what I have noticed people who deal with each other online virtually never see each other in person.

I want to say something but it's very difficult to put into words I think we've kind of come to reality as opposed to the early days when we did talk about you coming over here but in the last few years it seems like we've kind of agreed that it's probably not very realistic and early on you said something about it would cost like $6000 or something like that in it I guess it's just a lot cheaper to to use the Internet and then I started talking about the Grand Canyon and I don't want it to seem like that I'm telling you you can't come here and that you should go to the Grand Canyon instead I'm just saying something like I don't want to tell you that you can't come to the United States at all but we sort of agreed that maybe you be kind of may be like not wants to come here to Texas but I don't wanna tell you that you can't come to the United States at all so that's why I talked about the Grand Canyon you you're certainly allowed to like make a trip to America flying to New York or wherever and then maybe like rent a car and do some sightseeing across America and The Grand Canyon you're trying to be the a pitta me of the trip the Grand Canyon is actually pretty nice area if if you believe this in this is true this is it this is the true statement is the Internet is nothing but lies with this statement is true I am I took 20 trips from Victoria Texas to the American west between the years 1985 and 2004 this is never mind I am outfitted my SUVs for sleeping in and I could just camp wherever I stopped so I made it to the Grand Canyon they have two rules about the Grand Canyon one is you don't try to hike from the rim to the river and back and in one day you just don't do that the second rule they have is for every hour that you take going down take two hours to come back up so I figured if I left at five in the morning and I was at the Colorado river at 10 in the morning and then I take twice as much time to go back up well that's five hours and 5×2 is 10 last time I checked and I am 1010+10 is 20 but you some kind of modular can you come out with so eight in the evening so I left at five in the morning got there at 10 in the morning it was back in the bright angel rim trail head thingy at 8 PM and I want to say one thing about all of this when I was down at the river sitting there some Kraut came and sit next to me and he breaks out his little little bottle of whiskey and he's celebrating in doing the he never offered any of that to me and I think you know who you are wherever you are although you probably don't because you didn't know my name and I'm just writing here and there's no in fact there's no way lotta times I get to thinking like him suppose I wanted to know the identity of somebody that you liked was that I'm sorry to stop like 20 years ago away how can I ever get that identity in the answer is it's about as impossible as if you want to name right there so anyway so you could like a tour of the Grand Canyon and then go back to New York City and although if you go to all that trouble you could probably well I guess you could come here and visit Who knows this whole visiting thing is been a fly in the ointment the whole time and I guess this is why people just do online stuff so they don't have to actually travel anywhere and kind of think I'm maybe have going on a little too long hair and no so forth and so on and I just wanted to say have a nice day and I want my dolly

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