On 2023-11-23 15:31, John wrote:
> On 11/23/23 2:36 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-11-23 13:57, John wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2023 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
>>>>> On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iKooks who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browne, Chris Schram
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it*" simply because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the conversation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your side of the conversation was silly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You actually proved my original contention that iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone connected to an external converter.  Which of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course is no longer a comparison just between two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different types of phones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And listening to music on anything except the phones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal speakers implies more than "just between" the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phones, doesn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument which ended up proving my assertion Android is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical expert while you prove to be a troll.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was saying was wrong when he wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support it."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based music player to get the best music high fidelity off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Apple Music."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...like these:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...for less than $30 Canadian.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you done with your losing yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again you are requiring an additional component above
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone itself.  Android does not.  Therefore Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. End of discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The "additional component" being earbuds...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...which you would need in either case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apple headphone products do not support it.  Therefore you go
>>>>>>>>>>> to Samsung, an Android maker.  LMAO!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit
>>>>>>>>>> lossless audio!"...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they
>>>>>>>>>> can't output it to anything!"...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to
>>>>>>>>>> "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product
>>>>>>>>>> from anyone...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs.
>>>>>>>>> Thats what my original complaint was about Moron.  You keep
>>>>>>>>> going in circles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Straight from the source:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But you go right on, little loser.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But sure sounds better than what Apple provides.  BIG improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally
>>>>>> admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Questions (yes or no):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone
>>>>> products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
>>>>>
>>>>> NO.   End of discussion.
>>>>
>>>> That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong,
>>>> little loser.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
>>>>
>>>> You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
>>>>
>>>> You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
>>>>
>>>> No, you can't. Not even close.
>>>>
>>>> So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone needs
>>>> to use wired headphones/earbuds...
>>>>
>>>> ...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
>>>
>>> By not supporting advanced codecs with iphones and with their
>>> headphone products Apple is certainly behind.   Nice try at trying to
>>> smear the facts.   But that is what you always do.
>>
>> I never said that Apple was supporting the most advanced codecs.
>>
>> Do you know what a "straw man argument" is, little loser.
>>
>> Did you claim that the iPhone 15 did not support lossless audio at
>> 192kHz and 24 bits; yes or no?
>
>
>
> You are such a losewr there Micropimp.   Always pimping for Apple and
> never admitting Apple screws up.

All I've done is point out your false claims, LittleLoser.

Sorry it stings so much.

Not really sorry.

:-)