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 by: olcott - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:42 UTC

On 6/10/2022 10:37 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:29:54 -0500
> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/10/2022 10:19 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:15:52 -0500
>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/10/2022 10:06 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:54:10 -0500
>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:47 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:43:47 -0500
>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:37 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:32:47 -0500
>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:21 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:15:29 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:03 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:59:17 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:51 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:43:48 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:35 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:33:27 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:29 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:27:28 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:23 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:05:57 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 6:11 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:35:05 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:27 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:18:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:15 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:09:08 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 4:54 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 5:29 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 4:13 PM, Richard Damon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 5:00 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 3:25 PM, Richard Damon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 4:13 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 2:57 PM, Richard Damon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 3:52 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 2:38 PM, Richard Damon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 3:26 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 1:12 PM, Richard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 1:55 PM, olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 12:46 PM, Mr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 12:39:32
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0500 olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 12:28 PM, Mr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 12:15:24
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0500 olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 12:06 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 12:54 PM, olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 11:34 AM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 11:47 AM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void P(u32 x)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (H(x, x)) HERE: goto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HERE; return;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      P(P);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _P()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7](01)  55
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ebp [000012e8](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea](03) 8b4508
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed](01)  50 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax [000012ee](03)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1](01) 51 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx [000012f2](05)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f7](03) 83c408
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012fa](02) 85c0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012fc](02) 7402 jz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001300
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012fe](02) ebfe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmp 000012fe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001300](01) 5d pop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp [00001301](01) c3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Size in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bytes:(0027) [00001301]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001307](01)  55
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ebp [00001308](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130a](05)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68e7120000 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130f](05)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e8d3ffffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // call P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001314](03) 83c404
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001317](02) 33c0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xor eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001319](01) 5d pop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp [0000131a](01) c3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Size in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bytes:(0020) [0000131a]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack stack machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembly address
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address data code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language ========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======== ========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========= =============
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001307][00102190][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001308][00102190][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130a][0010218c][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68e7120000 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130f][00102188][00001314]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e8d3ffffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // call P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7][00102184][00102190]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp // enter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> executed P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8][00102184][00102190]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea][00102184][00102190]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed][00102180][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee][00102180][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1][0010217c][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51 push ecx // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2][00102178][000012f7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Decider Simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Execution Trace Stored
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at:212244
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7][00212230][00212234]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp // enter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulated P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8][00212230][00212234]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea][00212230][00212234]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed][0021222c][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax      //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee][0021222c][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1][00212228][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51 push ecx // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2][00212224][000012f7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, by what instruction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference manual is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 00001177
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followedby the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction at 000012e7.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your "CPU" is broken, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FAIL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7][0025cc58][0025cc5c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp      //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter emulated P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8][0025cc58][0025cc5c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea][0025cc58][0025cc5c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed][0025cc54][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax      //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee][0025cc54][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1][0025cc50][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51 push ecx // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2][0025cc4c][000012f7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Local Halt Decider:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinite Recursion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Detected Simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obvious that when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulates its input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it must emulate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first seven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions of P.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because the seventh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeats this process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we know with complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainty that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct and complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of P by H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never reach its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final “ret”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction, thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never halts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Problem, the 7th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intruction DOESN't "Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeat the procedure",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because that H always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has the option to abort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its simulation, just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like this onne did, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return to its P and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it halt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IS NO ACTUAL REBUTTAL AT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALL:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The partial correct x86
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of the input to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) conclusively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proves that the complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and correct x86 emulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You SAY that, but you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't answer the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions about HOW.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IS NO EVIDENCE WHAT-SO-EVER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I DID NOT COMPLETELY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROVE THAT THE CORRECT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PARTIAL EMULATION OF THE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INPUT TO H(P,P)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONCLUSIVELY PROVES THAT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THE CORRECT AND COMPLETE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X86 EMULATION OF THE INPUT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TO H(P,P) WOULD NEVER STOP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RUNNING.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is completely obvious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that when H(P,P) correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulates its input that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must emulate the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seven instructions of P.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because the seventh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of P repeats
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this process we know with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete certainty that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the correct and complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of P by H would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never reach its final
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “ret” instruction, thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never halts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If P should have halted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e. no infinite loop)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then your simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detector, S (not H), gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the answer wrong. You S is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT a halting decider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO ACTUAL REBUTTAL AT ALL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _P()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001352](01)  55
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ebp [00001353](02)  8bec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov ebp,esp [00001355](03)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001358](01)  50 push eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // push P [00001359](03)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000135c](01) 51 push ecx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    // push P [0000135d](05)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e840feffff call 000011a2 //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call H [00001362](03) 83c408
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+08 [00001365](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 85c0 test eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001367](02) 7402 jz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0000136b [00001369](02) ebfe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmp 00001369 [0000136b](01)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5d pop ebp [0000136c](01)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c3 ret Size in bytes:(0027)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000136c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is completely obvious that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when H(P,P) correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulates its input that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must emulate the first seven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions of P. Because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the seventh instruction of P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeats this process we know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with complete certainty that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the correct and complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of P by H would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never reach its final “ret”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction, thus never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are going around and around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and around in circles. I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try again:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you replace the opcodes "EB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FE" at 00001369 with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opcodes "90 90" then your H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets the answer wrong: P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have halted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I already said before this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is merely your cluelessness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that when H(P,P) is invoked the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct x86 emulation of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input to H(P,P) makes and code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after [0000135d] unreachable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, because when that H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return the value 0, it will get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said people that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumber than a box of rocks won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to correctly understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When H(P,P) is invoked the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly emulated input to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) cannot possibly reach any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction beyond [0000135d].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are defining that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) never returns because it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is caught in the infinite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rcursion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats fine, just says it can't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the correctly answering decider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you claim it to be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have corrected you on this too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How. You need to define what H(P,P)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have explained that too many times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To understand that H(P,P)==0 is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct we only need to know that H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performs a correct x86 emulation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its input and then examine the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution trace.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a CORRECT emulation of the code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will Halt if H(P,P) returns 0, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it can only do if it does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually do a correct emulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The correctly emulated input to H(P,P)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never gets past its machine address
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000135d].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only if H actually doesn't return 0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, H can't correctly return 0 if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly emulates its input, but you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't drop that requirement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void P(u32 x)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    if (H(x, x))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    return;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Output("Input_Halts = ",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H((u32)P, (u32)P)); }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When H returns 0 it does not returns 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to P it returns 0 to main().
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it also return 0 to the computation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P(P), maybe not the copy that it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulating, since it aborts that before it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get to it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally you are not stupid or deceptive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If H never returns a value to P then H is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a halting decider; if H returns a value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 0 to main() when P halts then H is not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halting decider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H is not a halting decider; H is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation detector, S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other words you are saying the infintely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nested emulation only excutes for a few steps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then it stops on its own.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am saying that your H is not a halting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider; I am saying that your H is just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation detector, S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are saying that you simply "don't believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in" simulating halt deciders.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You haven't got a simulating halt decider, what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have got is a simulation detector.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is an easily verified fact that H does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly decide the halt status of its input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void Infinite_Loop()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output("Input_Halts = ",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H0(Infinite_Loop)); }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Infinite_Loop()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001342](01) 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001343](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001345](02) ebfe jmp 00001345
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001347](01) 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001348](01) c3 ret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0007) [00001348]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001372](01) 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001373](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001375](05) 6842130000 push 00001342
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000137a](05) e833fdffff call 000010b2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000137f](03) 83c404 add esp,+04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001382](01) 50 push eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001383](05) 6823040000 push 00000423
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001388](05) e8e5f0ffff call 00000472
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000138d](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001390](02) 33c0 xor eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001392](01) 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001393](01) c3 ret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0034) [00001393]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine stack stack machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembly address address data code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language ======== ======== ======== =========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ============= [00001372][0010228f][00000000] 55
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ebp [00001373][0010228f][00000000] 8bec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov ebp,esp [00001375][0010228b][00001342]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6842130000 push 00001342 // push _Infinite_Loop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000137a][00102287][0000137f] e833fdffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000010b2 // call H0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation Execution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trace Stored at:212343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001342][00212333][00212337] 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001343][00212333][00212337] 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001345][00212333][00212337] ebfe jmp 00001345
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001345][00212333][00212337] ebfe jmp 00001345
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Local Halt Decider: Infinite Loop Detected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simulation Stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000137f][0010228f][00000000] 83c404 add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esp,+04 [00001382][0010228b][00000000] 50
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push eax [00001383][00102287][00000423]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6823040000 push 00000423
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001388][00102287][00000423] e8e5f0ffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00000472 Input_Halts = 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000138d][0010228f][00000000] 83c408 add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esp,+08 [00001390][0010228f][00000000] 33c0 xor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,eax [00001392][00102293][00100000] 5d pop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp [00001393][00102297][00000004] c3 ret Number
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Instructions Executed(680)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int Sum(int X, int Y)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return X + Y;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output("Input_Halts = ", H2(Sum, 3,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4)); }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Sum()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012b6](01) 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012b7](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012b9](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012bc](03) 03450c add eax,[ebp+0c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012bf](01) 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012c0](01) c3 ret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0011) [000012c0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001316](01) 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001317](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001319](02) 6a04 push +04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131b](02) 6a03 push +03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131d](05) 68b6120000 push 000012b6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001322](05) e85ffaffff call 00000d86
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001327](03) 83c40c add esp,+0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000132a](01) 50 push eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000132b](05) 6807040000 push 00000407
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001330](05) e821f1ffff call 00000456
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001335](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001338](02) 33c0 xor eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000133a](01) 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000133b](01) c3 ret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0038) [0000133b]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine stack stack machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembly address address data code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language ======== ======== ======== =========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ============= ...[00001316][001021d7][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp ...[00001317][001021d7][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001319][001021d3][00000004] 6a04 push +04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000131b][001021cf][00000003] 6a03 push +03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000131d][001021cb][000012b6] 68b6120000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push 000012b6 ...[00001322][001021c7][00001327]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e85ffaffff call 00000d86
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation Execution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trace Stored at:21228b
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012b6][00212273][00212277] 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012b7][00212273][00212277] 8bec mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp,esp ...[000012b9][00212273][00212277] 8b4508
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012bc][00212273][00212277] 03450c add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+0c] ...[000012bf][00212277][00000e54]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5d pop ebp ...[000012c0][0021227b][00000003] c3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret ...[00001327][001021d7][00000000] 83c40c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+0c ...[0000132a][001021d3][00000001] 50
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push eax ...[0000132b][001021cf][00000407]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6807040000 push 00000407
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---[00001330][001021cf][00000407] e821f1ffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00000456 Input_Halts = 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001335][001021d7][00000000] 83c408
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+08 ...[00001338][001021d7][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 33c0 xor eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000133a][001021db][00100000] 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000133b][001021df][00000004] c3 ret Number
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Instructions Executed(660)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All you are showing here is that your H can decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the halt status of two trivial cases however you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not shown that H can decide the halt status
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of non-trivial cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You haven't got a simulating halt decider"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologize and we can move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted four paragraphs but you ignored three of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. Lets try again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IF YOU DON'T APOLOGIZE THEN WE CANNOT MOVE ON !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems I need to try again. Perhaps it will help if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I combine the four paragraphs into a single paragraph:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All you are showing here is that your H can decide the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halt status of two trivial cases however you have not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown that H can decide the halt status of non-trivial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H is a halt decider for a subset of its inputs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H is a halt decider for P.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When H is a halt decider for P all of the conventional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halting problem proofs have been refuted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For H to be a halt decider it needs to be a halt decider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for all inputs not a subset.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Publish the source code of your halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider so we can see what classes of programs your H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can decide. I am interested in deciding the halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status of programs containing non-trivial branching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic predicated on arbitrary program input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are out-of-scope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may assert this but that doesn't make your assertion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true. If they are out-of-scope then your H is out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scope of the Halting Problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crucially if your H cannot return an answer for an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrary non-halting program in finite time then it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a halt decider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One can either say that H is a halt decider for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subset of its inputs or that H is a halt determiner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As long as H(P,P) correctly decides its input all of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the conventional HP proofs have been refuted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are to make progress you need to publish the code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of your infinite loop detector.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't understand 14 lines of code then this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusively proves that you won't understand hundreds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages of code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because people here are only interested in rebuttal and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't give a rat's ass about an honest dialogue I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the price of a continued dialogue key points of mutual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agreement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't understand that H(P,P)==0 is correct then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing the source code will only provide the means for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denigration based on lack of comprehension. I absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will not tolerate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are to make progress you need to publish the source
>>>>>>>>>>>>> code of how your infinite loop detector works as your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disassembly traces DO NOT provide that information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not do that until many many points of mutual
>>>>>>>>>>>> agreement have occurred. Until many many points of mutual
>>>>>>>>>>>> agreement have occurred my assessment that my reviewers
>>>>>>>>>>>> are lying cheating bastards remains affirmed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At this point, as you refuse to provide evidence to the
>>>>>>>>>>> contrary, I conclude that the only case of non-halting
>>>>>>>>>>> behavior you can detect are the execution of the Intel x86
>>>>>>>>>>> opcodes "EB FE". Being only able to detect a single case of
>>>>>>>>>>> non-halting behavior out of a total 2^n cases obviously does
>>>>>>>>>>> not qualify as a halting decider.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You know what you must do to refute this conclusion: provide
>>>>>>>>>>> evidence in the form of source code.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That I prove that H(P,P)==0 by itself refutes the halting
>>>>>>>>>> problem proofs that claim that neither 0 nor 1 is correct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your H gets the answer wrong if P would have halted as only
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That people with shit for brains think that is gets the wrong
>>>>>>>> answer is no rebuttal at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shit for brains? Your insults are definitely increasing in
>>>>>>> intensity, have you checked your blood pressure recently?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My proof has gotten down to the point that it is proven correct
>>>>>> on the basis of easily verified facts. Lying cheating bastards
>>>>>> disagree with these easily verified facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don't you just take a step back for a minute and consider what
>>>>> if you are wrong and there isn't actually a grand conspiracy of
>>>>> liars acting against you?
>>>>
>>>> When I say that H(P,P)==0 on the basis of the actual behavior of
>>>> the actual input all of the rebuttals are of the form that H is
>>>> wrong on the basis of the behavior of a non-input.
>>>
>>> A halting P isn't non-input though; your H gets the answer wrong if
>>> P would have halted after calling H and H isn't a recursive call
>>> into a simulator.
>>>
>>> /Flibble
>>>
>>
>> You don't even understand the simple concept of unreachable code.
>
> I do though.

You have proven that you do not even understand the simple concept of
unreachable code. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreachable_code

>
>>
>> It is an easily verified fact that the actual behavior of the actual
>> input to H(P,P) conclusively proves that it never reaches its "ret"
>> instruction thus never halts.
>
> Unless P is a program which halts after calling H.
>
>>
>> The complete and correct x86 emulation of the input to H(P,P) by H
>> would never stop running.
>
> Not if P halts, i.e. invokes the decider but doesn't then pathologically
> flip the result.
>
> /Flibble
>

Because you can't even understand the concept of unreachable code you
are totally unqualified to review my work.

--
Copyright 2022 Pete Olcott

"Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see."
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