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From: flib...@reddwarf.jmc (Mr Flibble)
Newsgroups: comp.theory,comp.ai.philosophy,sci.logic,sci.math
Subject: Re: Proving that P(P) != the correct x86 emulation of the input to
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 by: Mr Flibble - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:57 UTC

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:54:18 -0500
olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:

> On 6/10/2022 10:47 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:42:55 -0500
> > olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/10/2022 10:37 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:29:54 -0500
> >>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 6/10/2022 10:19 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:15:52 -0500
> >>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 6/10/2022 10:06 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:54:10 -0500
> >>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:47 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:43:47 -0500
> >>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:37 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:32:47 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:21 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:15:29 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:03 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:59:17 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:51 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:43:48 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:35 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:33:27 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:29 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:27:28 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:23 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:05:57 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 6:11 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:35:05 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:27 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:18:38 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:15 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:09:08 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 4:54 PM, Richard Damon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 5:29 PM, olcott wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 4:13 PM, Richard Damon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 5:00 PM, olcott wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 3:25 PM, Richard Damon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 4:13 PM, olcott wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 2:57 PM, Richard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 3:52 PM, olcott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 2:38 PM, Richard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 3:26 PM, olcott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 1:12 PM, Richard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 1:55 PM, olcott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 12:46 PM, Mr
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:39:32 -0500 olcott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <NoOne@NoWhere.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 12:28 PM, Mr
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flibble wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:15:24 -0500 olcott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <NoOne@NoWhere.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 12:06 PM,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Damon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 12:54 PM,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 11:34 AM,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Damon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 11:47 AM,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void P(u32 x)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (H(x, x)) HERE:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goto HERE; return;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      P(P);
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _P()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7](01)  55
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8](02) 8bec
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea](03)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed](01)  50
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push eax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee](03)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1](01) 51
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ecx
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2](05)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call H
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f7](03)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 83c408 add esp,+08
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012fa](02) 85c0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test eax,eax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012fc](02) 7402
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jz 00001300
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012fe](02) ebfe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmp 000012fe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001300](01) 5d
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pop ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001301](01) c3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Size in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bytes:(0027)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001301]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _main()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001307](01)  55
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001308](02) 8bec
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130a](05)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68e7120000 push
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // push P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130f](05)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e8d3ffffff call
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // call P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001314](03)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 83c404 add esp,+04
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001317](02) 33c0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xor eax,eax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001319](01) 5d
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pop ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131a](01) c3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Size in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bytes:(0020)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131a]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     machine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack stack machine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembly address
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address data code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language =======> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======== =======> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ============> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001307][00102190][00000000]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001308][00102190][00000000]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130a][0010218c][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68e7120000 push
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // push P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130f][00102188][00001314]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e8d3ffffff call
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // call P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7][00102184][00102190]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp //
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter executed P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8][00102184][00102190]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea][00102184][00102190]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed][00102180][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax // push
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee][00102180][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1][0010217c][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51 push ecx // push
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2][00102178][000012f7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call H
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Decider Simulation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Execution Trace
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stored at:212244
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7][00212230][00212234]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp //
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter emulated P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8][00212230][00212234]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea][00212230][00212234]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed][0021222c][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax      //
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee][0021222c][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1][00212228][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51 push ecx //
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2][00212224][000012f7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call H
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, by what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference manual is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a call 00001177
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followedby the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your "CPU" is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken, or emulation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrect.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FAIL.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7][0025cc58][0025cc5c]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp      //
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter emulated P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8][0025cc58][0025cc5c]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea][0025cc58][0025cc5c]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed][0025cc54][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax      //
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee][0025cc54][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1][0025cc50][000012e7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51 push ecx // push
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2][0025cc4c][000012f7]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call H
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Local Halt Decider:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinite Recursion
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Detected Simulation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stopped
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is completely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obvious that when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) correctly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulates its input
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it must
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulate the first
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seven instructions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of P. Because the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seventh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeats this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process we know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with complete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainty that the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete emulation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of P by H would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never reach its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final “ret”
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction, thus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never halts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Problem, the 7th
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intruction DOESN't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just repeat the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure", because
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that H always has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the option to abort
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its simulation,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just like this onne
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did, and return to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its P and see it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TOO STUPID TO
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNDERSTAND THIS IS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO ACTUAL REBUTTAL
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AT ALL:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The partial correct
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x86 emulation of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input to H(P,P)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusively proves
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the complete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and correct x86
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never stop running.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You SAY that, but you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't answer the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual questions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about HOW.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STUPID TO UNDERSTAND
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS NO EVIDENCE
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHAT-SO-EVER THAT I DID
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT COMPLETELY PROVE
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT THE CORRECT
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PARTIAL EMULATION OF
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THE INPUT TO H(P,P)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONCLUSIVELY PROVES
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT THE CORRECT AND
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMPLETE X86 EMULATION
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OF THE INPUT TO H(P,P)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WOULD NEVER STOP
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RUNNING.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is completely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obvious that when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) correctly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulates its input
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it must emulate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first seven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions of P.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because the seventh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeats this process
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we know with complete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainty that the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct and complete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of P by H
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never reach its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final “ret”
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction, thus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never halts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If P should have halted
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e. no infinite loop)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then your simulation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detector, S (not H),
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets the answer wrong.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You S is NOT a halting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IS NO ACTUAL REBUTTAL AT
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALL.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _P()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001352](01)  55
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ebp [00001353](02)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001355](03) 8b4508 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001358](01)  50 push
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax // push P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001359](03) 8b4d08 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000135c](01) 51 push
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx // push P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000135d](05)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e840feffff call 000011a2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // call H [00001362](03)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 83c408 add esp,+08
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001365](02) 85c0 test
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,eax [00001367](02)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7402 jz 0000136b
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001369](02) ebfe jmp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001369 [0000136b](01)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5d pop ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000136c](01) c3 ret
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0027)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000136c]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is completely obvious
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that when H(P,P)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly emulates its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input that it must
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulate the first seven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions of P.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because the seventh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of P repeats
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this process we know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with complete certainty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the correct and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete emulation of P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by H would never reach
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its final “ret”
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction, thus never
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are going around and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around and around in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circles. I will try again:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you replace the opcodes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "EB FE" at 00001369 with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the opcodes "90 90" then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your H gets the answer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong: P should have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I already said before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is merely your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluelessness that when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) is invoked the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct x86 emulation of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the input to H(P,P) makes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and code after [0000135d]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unreachable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, because when that H
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return the value 0, it will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said people that are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumber than a box of rocks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be able to correctly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When H(P,P) is invoked the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly emulated input to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) cannot possibly reach
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any instruction beyond
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000135d].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are defining that you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) never returns because
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is caught in the infinite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rcursion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats fine, just says it can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the correctly answering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider you claim it to be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have corrected you on this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too many times.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How. You need to define what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) actually does.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have explained that too many
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To understand that H(P,P)==0 is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct we only need to know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that H performs a correct x86
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of its input and then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examine the execution trace.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a CORRECT emulation of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code will Halt if H(P,P) returns
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, which it can only do if it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not actually do a correct
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The correctly emulated input to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) never gets past its machine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address [0000135d].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only if H actually doesn't return 0.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, H can't correctly return 0 if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it correctly emulates its input,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but you can't drop that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void P(u32 x)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    if (H(x, x))
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    return;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Output("Input_Halts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = ", H((u32)P, (u32)P)); }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When H returns 0 it does not returns
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 to P it returns 0 to main().
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it also return 0 to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computation P(P), maybe not the copy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it is simulating, since it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aborts that before it get to it,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally you are not stupid or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deceptive.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If H never returns a value to P then H
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a halting decider; if H returns a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value of 0 to main() when P halts then H
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a halting decider.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H is not a halting decider; H is a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation detector, S.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other words you are saying the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infintely nested emulation only excutes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a few steps and then it stops on its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am saying that your H is not a halting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider; I am saying that your H is just a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation detector, S.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are saying that you simply "don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in" simulating halt deciders.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You haven't got a simulating halt decider,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you have got is a simulation detector.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is an easily verified fact that H does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly decide the halt status of its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void Infinite_Loop()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HERE: goto HERE;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output("Input_Halts = ",
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H0(Infinite_Loop)); }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Infinite_Loop()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001342](01) 55 push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001343](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001345](02) ebfe jmp 00001345
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001347](01) 5d pop ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001348](01) c3 ret
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0007) [00001348]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _main()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001372](01) 55 push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001373](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001375](05) 6842130000 push 00001342
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000137a](05) e833fdffff call 000010b2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000137f](03) 83c404 add esp,+04
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001382](01) 50 push eax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001383](05) 6823040000 push 00000423
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001388](05) e8e5f0ffff call 00000472
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000138d](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001390](02) 33c0 xor eax,eax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001392](01) 5d pop ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001393](01) c3 ret
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0034) [00001393]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine stack stack
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine assembly address address data
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code language ======== ======== =======> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========= ============> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001372][0010228f][00000000] 55 push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001373][0010228f][00000000] 8bec mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp,esp [00001375][0010228b][00001342]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6842130000 push 00001342 // push
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Infinite_Loop [0000137a][00102287][0000137f]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e833fdffff call 000010b2 // call H0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Execution Trace Stored at:212343
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001342][00212333][00212337] 55 push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001343][00212333][00212337] 8bec mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp,esp [00001345][00212333][00212337] ebfe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmp 00001345 [00001345][00212333][00212337]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebfe jmp 00001345 Local Halt Decider:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinite Loop Detected Simulation Stopped
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000137f][0010228f][00000000] 83c404 add
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esp,+04 [00001382][0010228b][00000000] 50
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push eax [00001383][00102287][00000423]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6823040000 push 00000423
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001388][00102287][00000423] e8e5f0ffff
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 00000472 Input_Halts = 0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000138d][0010228f][00000000] 83c408 add
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esp,+08 [00001390][0010228f][00000000] 33c0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xor eax,eax [00001392][00102293][00100000]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5d pop ebp [00001393][00102297][00000004] c3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Number of Instructions Executed(680)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int Sum(int X, int Y)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return X + Y;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output("Input_Halts = ",
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H2(Sum, 3, 4)); }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Sum()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012b6](01) 55 push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012b7](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012b9](03) 8b4508 mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08] [000012bc](03) 03450c
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add eax,[ebp+0c] [000012bf](01) 5d
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pop ebp [000012c0](01) c3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Size in bytes:(0011) [000012c0]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _main()
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001316](01) 55 push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001317](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001319](02) 6a04 push +04
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131b](02) 6a03 push +03
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131d](05) 68b6120000 push 000012b6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001322](05) e85ffaffff call 00000d86
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001327](03) 83c40c add esp,+0c
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000132a](01) 50 push eax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000132b](05) 6807040000 push 00000407
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001330](05) e821f1ffff call 00000456
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001335](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001338](02) 33c0 xor eax,eax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000133a](01) 5d pop ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000133b](01) c3 ret
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0038) [0000133b]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine stack stack
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine assembly address address data
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code language ======== ======== =======> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========= ============> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001316][001021d7][00000000] 55 push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001317][001021d7][00000000] 8bec mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp,esp ...[00001319][001021d3][00000004]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6a04 push +04
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000131b][001021cf][00000003] 6a03 push
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +03 ...[0000131d][001021cb][000012b6]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68b6120000 push 000012b6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001322][001021c7][00001327] e85ffaffff
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 00000d86
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Execution Trace Stored at:21228b
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012b6][00212273][00212277] 55 push ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012b7][00212273][00212277] 8bec mov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp,esp ...[000012b9][00212273][00212277]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012bc][00212273][00212277] 03450c add
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+0c]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012bf][00212277][00000e54] 5d pop ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012c0][0021227b][00000003] c3 ret
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001327][001021d7][00000000] 83c40c add
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esp,+0c ...[0000132a][001021d3][00000001] 50
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push eax ...[0000132b][001021cf][00000407]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6807040000 push 00000407
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---[00001330][001021cf][00000407] e821f1ffff
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 00000456 Input_Halts = 1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001335][001021d7][00000000] 83c408 add
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esp,+08 ...[00001338][001021d7][00000000]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 33c0 xor eax,eax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000133a][001021db][00100000] 5d pop ebp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000133b][001021df][00000004] c3 ret
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Number of Instructions Executed(660)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All you are showing here is that your H can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide the halt status of two trivial cases
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however you have not shown that H can decide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the halt status of non-trivial cases.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You haven't got a simulating halt decider"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologize and we can move on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted four paragraphs but you ignored three
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of them. Lets try again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IF YOU DON'T APOLOGIZE THEN WE CANNOT MOVE ON
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> !!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems I need to try again. Perhaps it will help
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I combine the four paragraphs into a single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paragraph:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All you are showing here is that your H can decide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the halt status of two trivial cases however you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not shown that H can decide the halt status
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of non-trivial cases.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H is a halt decider for a subset of its inputs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H is a halt decider for P.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When H is a halt decider for P all of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conventional halting problem proofs have been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refuted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For H to be a halt decider it needs to be a halt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider for all inputs not a subset.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Publish the source code of your halt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider so we can see what classes of programs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your H can decide. I am interested in deciding
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the halt status of programs containing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-trivial branching logic predicated on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrary program input.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are out-of-scope.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may assert this but that doesn't make your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assertion true. If they are out-of-scope then your H
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is out of scope of the Halting Problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crucially if your H cannot return an answer for an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrary non-halting program in finite time then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it isn't a halt decider.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One can either say that H is a halt decider for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subset of its inputs or that H is a halt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> determiner. As long as H(P,P) correctly decides
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its input all of the conventional HP proofs have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been refuted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are to make progress you need to publish the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code of your infinite loop detector.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't understand 14 lines of code then this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusively proves that you won't understand
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of pages of code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because people here are only interested in rebuttal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't give a rat's ass about an honest dialogue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I make the price of a continued dialogue key points
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of mutual agreement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't understand that H(P,P)==0 is correct
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then providing the source code will only provide the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means for denigration based on lack of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehension. I absolutely will not tolerate that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are to make progress you need to publish the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source code of how your infinite loop detector works
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as your disassembly traces DO NOT provide that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not do that until many many points of mutual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> agreement have occurred. Until many many points of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mutual agreement have occurred my assessment that my
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reviewers are lying cheating bastards remains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> At this point, as you refuse to provide evidence to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> contrary, I conclude that the only case of non-halting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior you can detect are the execution of the Intel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> x86 opcodes "EB FE". Being only able to detect a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> single case of non-halting behavior out of a total 2^n
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cases obviously does not qualify as a halting decider.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You know what you must do to refute this conclusion:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide evidence in the form of source code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That I prove that H(P,P)==0 by itself refutes the halting
> >>>>>>>>>>>> problem proofs that claim that neither 0 nor 1 is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> correct.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Your H gets the answer wrong if P would have halted as
> >>>>>>>>>>> only your
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That people with shit for brains think that is gets the
> >>>>>>>>>> wrong answer is no rebuttal at all.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Shit for brains? Your insults are definitely increasing in
> >>>>>>>>> intensity, have you checked your blood pressure recently?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> /Flibble
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My proof has gotten down to the point that it is proven
> >>>>>>>> correct on the basis of easily verified facts. Lying
> >>>>>>>> cheating bastards disagree with these easily verified facts.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why don't you just take a step back for a minute and consider
> >>>>>>> what if you are wrong and there isn't actually a grand
> >>>>>>> conspiracy of liars acting against you?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When I say that H(P,P)==0 on the basis of the actual behavior
> >>>>>> of the actual input all of the rebuttals are of the form that
> >>>>>> H is wrong on the basis of the behavior of a non-input.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A halting P isn't non-input though; your H gets the answer wrong
> >>>>> if P would have halted after calling H and H isn't a recursive
> >>>>> call into a simulator.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /Flibble
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You don't even understand the simple concept of unreachable
> >>>> code.
> >>>
> >>> I do though.
> >>
> >> You have proven that you do not even understand the simple concept
> >> of unreachable code.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreachable_code
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It is an easily verified fact that the actual behavior of the
> >>>> actual input to H(P,P) conclusively proves that it never reaches
> >>>> its "ret" instruction thus never halts.
> >>>
> >>> Unless P is a program which halts after calling H.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The complete and correct x86 emulation of the input to H(P,P) by
> >>>> H would never stop running.
> >>>
> >>> Not if P halts, i.e. invokes the decider but doesn't then
> >>> pathologically flip the result.
> >>>
> >>> /Flibble
> >>>
> >>
> >> Because you can't even understand the concept of unreachable code
> >> you are totally unqualified to review my work.
> >
> > I do though ergo I am totally qualified to review your work.
> >
> > The parts of P that are unreachable when P is invoked by your
> > simulation bollocks are not unreachable when considered by a sane
> > halt decider (which is what the halting problem proofs you are
> > attempting to refute consider).
> >
> > /Flibble
> >
>
> _P()
> [000012e7](01) 55 push ebp
> [000012e8](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
> [000012ea](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
> [000012ed](01) 50 push eax
> [000012ee](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
> [000012f1](01) 51 push ecx
> [000012f2](05) e880feffff call 00001177 // call H
> [000012f7](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
> [000012fa](02) 85c0 test eax,eax
> [000012fc](02) 7402 jz 00001300
> [000012fe](02) ebfe jmp 000012fe
> [00001300](01) 5d pop ebp
> [00001301](01) c3 ret
> Size in bytes:(0027) [00001301]
>
> That you believe that the correctly emulated input to H(P,P) can ever
> get past the machine address of [000012f2] conclusively proves that
> you are totally incompetent to review my work.
>
> Some of your replies refer to changing the opcodes in the unreachable
> part of the code.
I suggest you review [Strachey 1965] again: the program is an
impossible program because the infinite loop *is* reachable.

/Flibble

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