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 by: olcott - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 16:46 UTC

On 6/10/2022 11:41 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 11:38:19 -0500
> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/10/2022 10:57 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:54:18 -0500
>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/10/2022 10:47 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:42:55 -0500
>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 10:37 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:29:54 -0500
>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 10:19 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:15:52 -0500
>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 10:06 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:54:10 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:47 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:43:47 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:37 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:32:47 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:21 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:15:29 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 9:03 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:59:17 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:51 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:43:48 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:35 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:33:27 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:29 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:27:28 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 8:23 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:05:57 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/10/2022 6:11 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:35:05 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:27 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:18:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:15 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:09:08 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 4:54 PM, Richard Damon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 5:29 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 4:13 PM, Richard Damon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 5:00 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 3:25 PM, Richard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 4:13 PM, olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 2:57 PM, Richard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 3:52 PM, olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 2:38 PM, Richard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 3:26 PM, olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 1:12 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 1:55 PM, olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 12:46 PM, Mr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:39:32 -0500 olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <NoOne@NoWhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 12:28 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:15:24 -0500 olcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <NoOne@NoWhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 12:06 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 12:54 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 11:34
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AM, Richard Damon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 11:47
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void P(u32 x)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (H(x, x)) HERE:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goto HERE;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return; }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      P(P);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _P()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7](01)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea](03)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed](01)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee](03)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1](01) 51
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ecx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2](05)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H [000012f7](03)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 83c408 add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esp,+08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012fa](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 85c0 test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012fc](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7402 jz 00001300
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012fe](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebfe jmp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012fe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001300](01)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001301](01)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c3 ret Size in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bytes:(0027)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001301]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001307](01)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001308](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130a](05)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68e7120000 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P [0000130f](05)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e8d3ffffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P [00001314](03)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 83c404 add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esp,+04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001317](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 33c0 xor eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001319](01)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131a](01)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c3 ret Size in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bytes:(0020)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131a]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack stack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine assembly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address address
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =============
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001307][00102190][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001308][00102190][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130a][0010218c][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68e7120000 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000130f][00102188][00001314]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e8d3ffffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7 // call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7][00102184][00102190]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter executed P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8][00102184][00102190]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea][00102184][00102190]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed][00102180][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee][00102180][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1][0010217c][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51 push ecx //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2][00102178][000012f7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Decider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Execution Trace
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stored at:212244
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7][00212230][00212234]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter emulated P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8][00212230][00212234]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea][00212230][00212234]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed][0021222c][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee][0021222c][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1][00212228][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51 push ecx //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2][00212224][000012f7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, by what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference manual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a call 00001177
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followedby the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012e7.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your "CPU" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FAIL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e7][0025cc58][0025cc5c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // enter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulated P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012e8][0025cc58][0025cc5c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ea][0025cc58][0025cc5c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4508 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ed][0025cc54][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012ee][0025cc54][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8b4d08 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f1][0025cc50][000012e7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51 push ecx //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012f2][0025cc4c][000012f7]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e880feffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001177 // call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H Local Halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Decider:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recursion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Detected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obvious that when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulates its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must emulate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first seven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P. Because the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seventh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeats this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process we know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainty that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the correct and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by H would never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reach its final
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “ret”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Problem, the 7th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intruction DOESN't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just repeat the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because that H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always has the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option to abort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its simulation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just like this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onne did, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return to its P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and see it halt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TOO STUPID TO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNDERSTAND THIS IS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO ACTUAL REBUTTAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AT ALL:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The partial correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x86 emulation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the input to H(P,P)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusively proves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and correct x86
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You SAY that, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't answer the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about HOW.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TOO STUPID TO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNDERSTAND THIS IS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO EVIDENCE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHAT-SO-EVER THAT I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DID NOT COMPLETELY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROVE THAT THE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CORRECT PARTIAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMULATION OF THE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INPUT TO H(P,P)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONCLUSIVELY PROVES
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT THE CORRECT AND
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMPLETE X86
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMULATION OF THE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INPUT TO H(P,P)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WOULD NEVER STOP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RUNNING.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obvious that when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulates its input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it must emulate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first seven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions of P.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because the seventh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeats this process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we know with complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainty that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct and complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of P by H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never reach its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final “ret”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction, thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never halts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If P should have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halted (i.e. no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infinite loop) then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detector, S (not H),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets the answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong. You S is NOT a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halting decider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STUPID TO UNDERSTAND
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS NO ACTUAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REBUTTAL AT ALL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _P()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001352](01)  55
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push ebp [00001353](02)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001355](03) 8b4508
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001358](01)  50 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001359](03) 8b4d08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000135c](01) 51 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ecx // push P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000135d](05)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e840feffff call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000011a2 // call H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001362](03) 83c408
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001365](02) 85c0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001367](02) 7402 jz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0000136b
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001369](02) ebfe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmp 00001369
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000136b](01) 5d pop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp [0000136c](01) c3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Size in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bytes:(0027) [0000136c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obvious that when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulates its input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it must emulate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first seven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions of P.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because the seventh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeats this process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we know with complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainty that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct and complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of P by H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never reach its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final “ret”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction, thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never halts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are going around and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around and around in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circles. I will try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you replace the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opcodes "EB FE" at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001369 with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opcodes "90 90" then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your H gets the answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong: P should have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I already said before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is merely your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluelessness that when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) is invoked the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct x86 emulation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the input to H(P,P) makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and code after [0000135d]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unreachable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, because when that H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return the value 0, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will get there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said people that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumber than a box of rocks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be able to correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When H(P,P) is invoked the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly emulated input to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) cannot possibly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reach any instruction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond [0000135d].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are defining that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you H(P,P) never returns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is caught in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infinite rcursion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats fine, just says it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't be the correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answering decider you claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have corrected you on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too many times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How. You need to define what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) actually does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have explained that too many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To understand that H(P,P)==0 is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct we only need to know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that H performs a correct x86
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation of its input and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examine the execution trace.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a CORRECT emulation of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code will Halt if H(P,P) returns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, which it can only do if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not actually do a correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The correctly emulated input to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H(P,P) never gets past its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine address [0000135d].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only if H actually doesn't return
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0. Yes, H can't correctly return
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 if it correctly emulates its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input, but you can't drop that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void P(u32 x)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    if (H(x, x))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      HERE: goto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HERE; return;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Output("Input_Halts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = ", H((u32)P, (u32)P)); }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When H returns 0 it does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> returns 0 to P it returns 0 to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main().
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it also return 0 to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computation P(P), maybe not the copy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it is simulating, since it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aborts that before it get to it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally you are not stupid or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deceptive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If H never returns a value to P then H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a halting decider; if H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> returns a value of 0 to main() when P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halts then H is not a halting decider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H is not a halting decider; H is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation detector, S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other words you are saying the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infintely nested emulation only excutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a few steps and then it stops on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its own.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am saying that your H is not a halting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider; I am saying that your H is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a simulation detector, S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are saying that you simply "don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in" simulating halt deciders.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You haven't got a simulating halt decider,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you have got is a simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detector.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is an easily verified fact that H does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly decide the halt status of its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void Infinite_Loop()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output("Input_Halts = ",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H0(Infinite_Loop)); }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Infinite_Loop()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001342](01) 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001343](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001345](02) ebfe jmp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001345 [00001347](01) 5d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pop ebp [00001348](01) c3 ret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0007) [00001348]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001372](01) 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001373](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001375](05) 6842130000 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00001342 [0000137a](05) e833fdffff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 000010b2 [0000137f](03) 83c404
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+04 [00001382](01) 50
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push eax [00001383](05) 6823040000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push 00000423 [00001388](05) e8e5f0ffff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 00000472 [0000138d](03) 83c408
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+08 [00001390](02) 33c0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xor eax,eax [00001392](01) 5d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pop ebp [00001393](01) c3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Size in bytes:(0034) [00001393]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine stack stack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine assembly address address data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code language ======== ======== ========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========= =============
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001372][0010228f][00000000] 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001373][0010228f][00000000] 8bec mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp,esp [00001375][0010228b][00001342]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6842130000 push 00001342 // push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Infinite_Loop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000137a][00102287][0000137f] e833fdffff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 000010b2 // call H0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Execution Trace Stored at:212343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001342][00212333][00212337] 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001343][00212333][00212337] 8bec mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp,esp [00001345][00212333][00212337] ebfe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmp 00001345 [00001345][00212333][00212337]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebfe jmp 00001345 Local Halt Decider:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinite Loop Detected Simulation Stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000137f][0010228f][00000000] 83c404
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+04 [00001382][0010228b][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 push eax [00001383][00102287][00000423]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6823040000 push 00000423
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001388][00102287][00000423] e8e5f0ffff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 00000472 Input_Halts = 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000138d][0010228f][00000000] 83c408
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+08 [00001390][0010228f][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 33c0 xor eax,eax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001392][00102293][00100000] 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001393][00102297][00000004] c3 ret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Number of Instructions Executed(680)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int Sum(int X, int Y)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return X + Y;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output("Input_Halts = ",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H2(Sum, 3, 4)); }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Sum()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012b6](01) 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012b7](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [000012b9](03) 8b4508 mov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08] [000012bc](03) 03450c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add eax,[ebp+0c] [000012bf](01) 5d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pop ebp [000012c0](01) c3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Size in bytes:(0011) [000012c0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001316](01) 55 push ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001317](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001319](02) 6a04 push +04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131b](02) 6a03 push +03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0000131d](05) 68b6120000 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 000012b6 [00001322](05) e85ffaffff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 00000d86 [00001327](03) 83c40c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+0c [0000132a](01) 50
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push eax [0000132b](05) 6807040000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push 00000407 [00001330](05) e821f1ffff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call 00000456 [00001335](03) 83c408
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+08 [00001338](02) 33c0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xor eax,eax [0000133a](01) 5d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pop ebp [0000133b](01) c3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret Size in bytes:(0038) [0000133b]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine stack stack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine assembly address address data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code language ======== ======== ========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========= =============
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001316][001021d7][00000000] 55 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp ...[00001317][001021d7][00000000] 8bec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001319][001021d3][00000004] 6a04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push +04 ...[0000131b][001021cf][00000003]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6a03 push +03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000131d][001021cb][000012b6]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68b6120000 push 000012b6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001322][001021c7][00001327]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e85ffaffff call 00000d86
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Execution Trace Stored at:21228b
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012b6][00212273][00212277] 55 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp ...[000012b7][00212273][00212277] 8bec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012b9][00212273][00212277] 8b4508
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mov eax,[ebp+08]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012bc][00212273][00212277] 03450c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add eax,[ebp+0c]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[000012bf][00212277][00000e54] 5d pop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebp ...[000012c0][0021227b][00000003] c3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ret ...[00001327][001021d7][00000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 83c40c add esp,+0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000132a][001021d3][00000001] 50 push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax ...[0000132b][001021cf][00000407]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6807040000 push 00000407
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---[00001330][001021cf][00000407]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e821f1ffff call 00000456 Input_Halts = 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001335][001021d7][00000000] 83c408
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add esp,+08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[00001338][001021d7][00000000] 33c0 xor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eax,eax ...[0000133a][001021db][00100000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...[0000133b][001021df][00000004] c3 ret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Number of Instructions Executed(660)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All you are showing here is that your H can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide the halt status of two trivial cases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however you have not shown that H can decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the halt status of non-trivial cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You haven't got a simulating halt decider"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologize and we can move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted four paragraphs but you ignored three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of them. Lets try again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IF YOU DON'T APOLOGIZE THEN WE CANNOT MOVE ON
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems I need to try again. Perhaps it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help if I combine the four paragraphs into a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single paragraph:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All you are showing here is that your H can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide the halt status of two trivial cases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however you have not shown that H can decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the halt status of non-trivial cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H is a halt decider for a subset of its inputs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H is a halt decider for P.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When H is a halt decider for P all of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conventional halting problem proofs have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refuted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For H to be a halt decider it needs to be a halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider for all inputs not a subset.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Publish the source code of your halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decider so we can see what classes of programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your H can decide. I am interested in deciding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the halt status of programs containing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-trivial branching logic predicated on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrary program input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are out-of-scope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may assert this but that doesn't make your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assertion true. If they are out-of-scope then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your H is out of scope of the Halting Problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crucially if your H cannot return an answer for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an arbitrary non-halting program in finite time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then it isn't a halt decider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One can either say that H is a halt decider for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subset of its inputs or that H is a halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> determiner. As long as H(P,P) correctly decides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its input all of the conventional HP proofs have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been refuted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are to make progress you need to publish the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code of your infinite loop detector.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't understand 14 lines of code then this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusively proves that you won't understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of pages of code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because people here are only interested in rebuttal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't give a rat's ass about an honest dialogue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I make the price of a continued dialogue key points
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of mutual agreement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't understand that H(P,P)==0 is correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then providing the source code will only provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the means for denigration based on lack of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehension. I absolutely will not tolerate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are to make progress you need to publish the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source code of how your infinite loop detector works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as your disassembly traces DO NOT provide that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not do that until many many points of mutual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agreement have occurred. Until many many points of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mutual agreement have occurred my assessment that my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reviewers are lying cheating bastards remains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At this point, as you refuse to provide evidence to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the contrary, I conclude that the only case of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-halting behavior you can detect are the execution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Intel x86 opcodes "EB FE". Being only able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detect a single case of non-halting behavior out of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total 2^n cases obviously does not qualify as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halting decider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know what you must do to refute this conclusion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide evidence in the form of source code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That I prove that H(P,P)==0 by itself refutes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halting problem proofs that claim that neither 0 nor 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your H gets the answer wrong if P would have halted as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That people with shit for brains think that is gets the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong answer is no rebuttal at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit for brains? Your insults are definitely increasing in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> intensity, have you checked your blood pressure recently?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My proof has gotten down to the point that it is proven
>>>>>>>>>>>> correct on the basis of easily verified facts. Lying
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheating bastards disagree with these easily verified
>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you just take a step back for a minute and
>>>>>>>>>>> consider what if you are wrong and there isn't actually a
>>>>>>>>>>> grand conspiracy of liars acting against you?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I say that H(P,P)==0 on the basis of the actual behavior
>>>>>>>>>> of the actual input all of the rebuttals are of the form that
>>>>>>>>>> H is wrong on the basis of the behavior of a non-input.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A halting P isn't non-input though; your H gets the answer
>>>>>>>>> wrong if P would have halted after calling H and H isn't a
>>>>>>>>> recursive call into a simulator.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't even understand the simple concept of unreachable
>>>>>>>> code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have proven that you do not even understand the simple
>>>>>> concept of unreachable code.
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreachable_code
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is an easily verified fact that the actual behavior of the
>>>>>>>> actual input to H(P,P) conclusively proves that it never
>>>>>>>> reaches its "ret" instruction thus never halts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless P is a program which halts after calling H.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The complete and correct x86 emulation of the input to H(P,P)
>>>>>>>> by H would never stop running.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not if P halts, i.e. invokes the decider but doesn't then
>>>>>>> pathologically flip the result.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because you can't even understand the concept of unreachable code
>>>>>> you are totally unqualified to review my work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do though ergo I am totally qualified to review your work.
>>>>>
>>>>> The parts of P that are unreachable when P is invoked by your
>>>>> simulation bollocks are not unreachable when considered by a sane
>>>>> halt decider (which is what the halting problem proofs you are
>>>>> attempting to refute consider).
>>>>>
>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _P()
>>>> [000012e7](01) 55 push ebp
>>>> [000012e8](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
>>>> [000012ea](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
>>>> [000012ed](01) 50 push eax
>>>> [000012ee](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
>>>> [000012f1](01) 51 push ecx
>>>> [000012f2](05) e880feffff call 00001177 // call H
>>>> [000012f7](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
>>>> [000012fa](02) 85c0 test eax,eax
>>>> [000012fc](02) 7402 jz 00001300
>>>> [000012fe](02) ebfe jmp 000012fe
>>>> [00001300](01) 5d pop ebp
>>>> [00001301](01) c3 ret
>>>> Size in bytes:(0027) [00001301]
>>>>
>>>> That you believe that the correctly emulated input to H(P,P) can
>>>> ever get past the machine address of [000012f2] conclusively
>>>> proves that you are totally incompetent to review my work.
>>>>
>>>> Some of your replies refer to changing the opcodes in the
>>>> unreachable part of the code.
>>>
>>> I suggest you review [Strachey 1965] again: the program is an
>>> impossible program because the infinite loop *is* reachable.
>>>
>>> /Flibble
>>>
>>
>> Changing the subject is one of the most common means of fake rebuttal.
>
> I am not changing the subject you fucking idiot.
>
> /Flibble
>

I am talking about H(P,P) you changed the subject away from H(P,P).

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