On 2023-01-04 14:08, chop wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2023 08:34:33 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-01-04 13:25, chop wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Jan 2023 07:57:27 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2023-01-04 12:52, chop wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 05 Jan 2023 07:22:04 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2023-01-04 12:12, chop wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Jan 2023 05:26:16 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-04 00:40, chop wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 04 Jan 2023 10:02:32 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-03 13:58, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-03 21:41:50 +0000, Alan said:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-03 13:34, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/23/2022 8:54 PM, sms wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/22/2022 10:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video explains the test and ranking method clearly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameras are not named - photos have an id.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subjective (vote on best looking photo - not pixel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peeking).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdjmGimh04&ab_channel=MarquesBrownlee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a list of features on a smartphone I could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vote on, camera
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality would be near the bottom.  But that's just me, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are more concerned about selfies than functionality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since smartphones have largely replaced consumer-grade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point and shoot cameras, camera quality is important for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Picture quality is important. The ability to take a photo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with so many pixels that you could professional print the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> image as a full-size advertising billboard, not really. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'megapixel' count went way past the usefulness range for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the average person years ago and is now simply a marketing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gimmick to con people into buying a new device they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really need.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Utterly wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A high pixel count means you can get a useful image of
>>>>>>>>>>>> something that is too far away to fill the frame.
>>>>>>>>>>>  Most phone and proper cameras already have some degree of
>>>>>>>>>>> physical zoom, especially these these days (the software zoom
>>>>>>>>>>> is rather pointless sinc it only guesses what the missing
>>>>>>>>>>> pixels should be).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Again, utterly wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let us posit three phones.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One with a 640x480 and no optical zoom.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One with 640x480 and a 2x optical zoom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And one with a modern phone's 8064x6048 pixel sensor with no
>>>>>>>>>> optical zoom.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And let us imagine that we are interested in taking a picture
>>>>>>>>>> of something that only occupies a small 100x100 are of the
>>>>>>>>>> first phone's sensor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On the 2x optical zoom camera, you've now got an image with
>>>>>>>>>> 200x200 pixels
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But on the modern phone's sensor, you get an image with
>>>>>>>>>> 1,260x1,260 pixels.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just returned from four days in Yosemite. I was ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throw my wife's phone into the Merced River since her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picture-taking was taking so much time. Those giant trees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and those big rocks have changed very little over the 40+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years we've been going there, though we have gotten much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> older.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's hard to believe that most people used to go a whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day without taking a picture of something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "a whole day" ... I've never taken a personal photo of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything in my entire life. The only times I've taken any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo would for someone else using their camera / phone so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can be in the photo too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What a limited life you've chosen.
>>>>>>>>>>>  Nope. Simply no reason or need to take a photo of anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you every memorable detail of your life is remembered with
>>>>>>>>>> utter clarity...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Not even possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which would be my point.
>>>>>>>  Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup.
>>>>>  Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We take photos of things in our lives BECAUSE we can't recall
>>>>>>>> them with perfect clarity.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  But it is never going to be possible to take a photo or video of
>>>>>>> EVERY MEMORABLE DETAIL OF YOUR LIFE, most obviously
>>>>>>> with the very unexpected events like one of the kids falling out
>>>>>>> of a tree with a ruler in her mouth like one of the neighbours
>>>>>>> managed with one of my trees.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And I never claimed it was, so...?
>>>>>  So your original was wrong with its EVERY.
>>>>
>>>> Again: your failure is one of reading for comprehension.
>>>  We'll see...
>>>
>>>> I never claimed that anyone remembers every moment with perfect
>>>> clarity.
>>>  But you did use the word EVERY when that isn't even possible.
>>>
>>>> Quoting myself here:
>>>
>>>> 'So you every memorable detail of your life is remembered with utter
>>>> clarity...
>>>  Not even possible given your EVERY.
>>>
>>>> ...and you can share them with anyone you wish because you're also
>>>> an accomplished artist in drawing and painting?'
>>>
>>>> That is one sentence...
>>>  Which used the word EVERY.
>>>
>>>> ...divided for effect...
>>>>
>>>> ...which ends in a QUESTION MARK?
>>>>
>>>> I was asking the previous poster why he felt no need to EVER take a
>>>> photo of what was happening in his life.
>>>  But stuffed up when you used the word EVERY.
>
>> It's a rhetorical device, you ignoramus.
>
> Bullshit, you bullshit artist.

Nope.

>
>> Posing an impossibility as a question.
>
> It wasn't even a question.

Really?

You didn't see the question mark?

And the end of:

'So you every memorable detail of your life is remembered with utter
clarity, and you can share them with anyone you wish because you're also
an accomplished artist in drawing and painting?'

Hmmm?

You really can't see it there?

Are your eyes defective?

Or is it your brain?

:-)