On 5/9/23 14:09, Nic wrote:
> On Tue, 9 May 2023 00:37:01 +0200
> Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/8/23 20:00, Nic wrote:
>>> On 5/8/23 04:05, Paul wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/2023 4:45 PM, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On 5/7/23 13:51, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/7/23 13:19, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/7/23 06:43, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 22:46, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 16:32, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 16:14:37 -0400
>>>>>>>>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 13:10, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> For people that don't use color when printing, this is an
>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent printer.  Very low price, and the cartridges last
>>>>>>>>>>>> a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can get compatible toner cartridges made by other
>>>>>>>>>>>> companies even cheaper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was using Linux Mint it worked right out of the box.
>>>>>>>>>>>> With MX Linux I had to download the drivers from Brother's
>>>>>>>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Toner cartridge
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> did you mean
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toner-Bank-TN730-TN760-Cartridge-Compatible-Brother-TN-760-TN-760-TN-730-730-DCP-L2550DW-MFC-L2710DW-MFC-L2750DW-HL-L2395DW-HL-L2350DW-HL-L2390DW-HL-/585757044?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I ordered the pair., hope it has some shelf life.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know it won't work with my printer, and I don't see your
>>>>>>>>>> printer listed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I feel like I am trapped in Linux printer hell.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's your problem? you didn't find el cheapo toner yet?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found the el cheapo toner, but I haven't figured out how to
>>>>>>> print wireless ly, am now awaiting the usb cable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well if absolutely nothing else work, read the manual.
>>>>>> I would stretch, not before you tried all other things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you try?
>>>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I did, many times. I looked around my computer stuff in a box and
>>>>> I found a cable, which I tried and the HL-L2325DV is now printing.
>>>>> It seems like a fragile working arrangement, because when I tried
>>>>> moving the usb plug around to a more permanent location it crapped
>>>>> out. I got it to work again but don't ask me to repeat my steps.
>>>>> This will suffice for now, and I am very timid to explore the
>>>>> wireless aspects of this printer. Thanks to all who contributed to
>>>>> possible solutions.
>>>>
>>>> The 2300d does not have Wireless.
>>>>
>>>> If the part number has a "w" on the end, that is a wireless product.
>>>>
>>>> You need a language lawyer and an if-then-else specialist when
>>>> reading these specification pages (unfortunately). Nobody makes
>>>> single product web pages, with clearly stated exact specs. You need
>>>> your decoder ring to figure out there is no Wifi. Even the manuals
>>>> cover six different printers, instead of one printer.
>>>>
>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hll2300d_us_eu_as
>>>>
>>>> Other diffs, are the amount of static RAM onboard and the missing
>>>> 1x16 LCD display. These may indicate a reduced function set. There
>>>> might not be a way to do an SSID or a password or an IP address,
>>>> without the convenience of a local display. (Installing a Wifi mini
>>>> card inside the printer, would not be enough to make the device
>>>> into one of the other SKUs.)
>>>>
>>>> In the past, we used to rate laser printers by their protocol
>>>> support (PCL6, PostScript for LPR, direct PDF). About 2MB is enough
>>>> to do a basic PostScript interpreter. So finding 8MB is not the end
>>>> of the world. But given how "silent" the marketing materials are
>>>> about protocols, I would guess the printer does pixmaps like my
>>>> inkjet might be doing it.
>>>>
>>>> At work, we did our own hardware driver card, for an early Canon
>>>> laser. This was a "real" laser printer, in the sense that it had a
>>>> HeNe gas laser inside the chassis. There's nothing particularly
>>>> noteworthy about such an approach. The hardware interface was a
>>>> "video interface", which ran at 2Mhz or so and sent ones and zeros
>>>> to the laser so the laser could draw on the drum. This is probably
>>>> not all that much different in a sense, than what your new laser
>>>> printer is doing. The USB2 interface is then an equivalent to the
>>>> old video draw interface :-) And such techniques are intended to
>>>> save the maximum amount of BOM costs. The printer with the HeNe
>>>> laser, had no processing requirements, because the protocol was so
>>>> dumb. It's possible it used wired status bits to indicate "paper
>>>> jam", "no toner", and so on.
>>>>
>>>> For the "smarter" laser printers, they had a 25MHz RISC processor
>>>> from AMD, and that is what would process PostScript or PCL6 or
>>>> whatever. The printers used to have a DIMM in them, so the internal
>>>> memory could be upgraded. There may be no RAM upgrade capability
>>>> (or even a reason to upgrade RAM) on a modern "personal laser".
>>>>
>>>>    Paul
>>> The HL-L2325DW crapped out this morning. I went through all the
>>> steps for re-installation and it did print a couple of times but on
>>> the whole there either something wrong with the CUPS system on my
>>> machine..20.3 or some other glitch. I replaced usb cable with no
>>> improvement.
>>
>> I am surprised to hear that since my experience is pretty good with
>> brother. You did all the steps including removing the old installation?
>> If it doesn't work you should let them know and tell them what went
>> wrong so they can fix it for you and others. Brother isn't linux, so
>> it is quite possible to "file a bug" and let them know something
>> doesn't work.
>>
>>
>>
> If I knew what was wrong I would tell myself first. I am not sure what is wrong. For the record- there at least 2 ways to look at the printer-
> 1- From within a browser using address http://localhost:631/
> 2- From the menu admin/printers
>
> I am not sure how these 2 are related, they show similar information, and the printer job can be canceled from their. Additionally a new printer can be installed, deleted, and print test page.
>
> In my situation when in the Printers dialog I try to delete the HL-L2325DW it pops right back, is this because the machine is plugged into the usb port on the back of my desktop, it always see's the printer or is something caught in a loop?

Well I say it is a Linux thing, it detects the printer and it decide to the pop up thing, ignore it.
It SHOULD work just there but I would install the Brother drivers from brother.
>
> The same thing happens in Localhost:631.
>
> This is what I see in Localhost:631
> Brother_HL_L2325DW_USB_ Brother HL-L2325DW, driverless, cups-filters 1.27.4 Idle - "Waiting for job to complete."
> MFC490CW MFC490CWBrother MFC-490CW CUPS v1.1 Idle PDF PDF
> Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options) Idle

Well for starters, forget both of them.
Go to the Brother website look for drivers select your OS which is Linux point DEB version.
Download it and follow the very good instructions. You might have to use the terminal but
the instructions from Brother are usually perfect.

Settings can be done with the admin/printer I never needed localhost.

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Then we have organizations established from pure evil.

Edmund