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Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread) alt.comp.freeware Posted: 1 Hour 51 Minutes ago by: Grant Taylor I got a lot closer to the proper people than that. But, I'm not at liberty to go into details. Suffice it to say that I would not bet a gas station cup of coffee on Google continuing to support Usenet in any capacity.
Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread) alt.comp.freeware Posted: 2 Hours 15 Minutes ago by: Andy Burnelli I live in the area so I know lots of people who work there too, and even then, as you found out yourself, the best I could get is a phone callback. One mistake I made in my prior post that Andy Burns pointed out is I misspelled "narkiv
Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread) alt.comp.freeware Posted: 5 Hours 40 Minutes ago by: Grant Taylor Hi Andy, Thank you Andy. :-) I too have gotten Google to fix a few things. It's a long, slow, and arduous process. It's also predicated on them wanting to fix things when pointed out to them. I know someone that worked there an
Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread) alt.msdos.batch Posted: 8 Hours 16 Minutes ago by: Andy Burnelli I'm not sure if J.O. Aho understood we're talking only about the read-only web-searchable "g" archives (although I'm sure people can log into their Google Account to send spam but SENDING is decidedly not the topic here). On the Windo
Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread) alt.msdos.batch Posted: 15 Hours 34 Minutes ago by: J.O. Aho That would be a great day, a lot less spam posted.
Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread) alt.msdos.batch Posted: 17 Hours 31 Minutes ago by: Andy Burnelli Hi Grant, I've dealt with you favorably many times in the past years and I agree that what you speak of above is wisdom borne of experience with google. I'm a persistent person, and even I have trouble getting Google to fix things but
Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread) alt.msdos.batch Posted: 18 Hours 29 Minutes ago by: Grant Taylor I have first hand experience with Google refusing to create new Usenet newsgroups. N.B. Google Groups (proper) is completely different than the Google Groups Usenet interface. I speculate that Google is going to discontinue their Usen
Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup alt.msdos.batch Posted: 18 Hours 38 Minutes ago by: Andy Burnelli This was just posted on the Windows newsgroups, but it applies equally to those on these specialty newsgroups who search before they ask questions. Paul wrote: Hi Paul, I often run a search before asking questions, and when researching
[X-POST] [OT] proposal for an NG dedicated to artificial-intelligence alt.os.linux Posted: 6 Days ago by: MarioCPPP Sorry for both the OT and the crosspost, but this kind of call-to-arms is necessarily crosspost (imvho). I have looked for such NG, and the very few that turned out to exist, were all DEAD cold. Would anybody be intrested of trying to c
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop [SOLVED} (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 6 Days ago by: Carlos E.R. :-o Paul suggested this method, but guessed the wrong key.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop [SOLVED} (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 8 Days 20 Hours ago by: Mountain Magpie Pressing F7 when booting gave me the option to boot from the thumb drive. Thanks for the help.
Re: More Termux (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli Hi Andy, I searched on my Android 12 Samsung Galaxy for "PTP" and "MTP" in the settings, and strangely enough, they are not listed anywhere anymore. When did those MTP/PTP options disappear from the Android USB settings? I think they ex
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 17 Days 21 Hours ago by: bad sector Hehe, agreed but even with the smugs and googlegoonies isn't usenet still so much better than some freakin' web-forum? That said, contrary to much verbage repeated here and there ad infinitum, and much more like in the case of languges,
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 18 Days 6 Hours ago by: Kenny McCormack But isn't it great? You get it for free, without even asking.
Re: about button order (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 19 Days 10 Hours ago by: bad sector Wednesdays are Slackware days here, so to paraphrase the sig or fortune cookie or whatever Slackware calls the bit of wisdom it threw at me minutes ago on launch
Re: about button order (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 19 Days 11 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R. Button order is up to the programmer, AFAIK. If the program uses library dialogs, then it is up to the library the programmer decided to use. IBM wrote the CUA standard, which was used in MsDOS. In it, Alt-F4 is exit, still today.
Re: about button order (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 19 Days 15 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho You ain't the first one to think you have the right solution to how the GUI should look and work like, there was a time when KDE and Gnome teams thought of cooperate in streamlining everything. Then the project leader of the new Gnome2
Re: about button order (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 19 Days 15 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz What do these considerations have to do specifically with Linux?
about button order alt.os.linux Posted: 19 Days 20 Hours ago by: bad sector I started asking myself why do I keep hitting the NO instead of the YES button when trying to empty the trash in Sylpheed seeing that emptying it was the very reason why I had right clicked the Trash folder in the first place. It threw
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 20 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mike Easter What are the ages (or age range) of these grandchildren so as to enable hazarding a guess at what kind of 'talents' they were likely to have. What is the brand and modelno of the laptop to help guess at how to get the boot options?
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mountain Magpie Not asking for false pity and your superior smug attitude, thanks.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mountain Magpie Yep.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R. My board has it. I always watch for its presence when purchasing. Well, for instance you can not investigate a kernel suspend issue with ssh, but you can with rs232. The kernel can send there log messages, or debug messages, since ve
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 20 Days 8 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho For me early boot issues been more or less zero and haven't had a rs232 for ages. For me, the ssh works far better as the issues I have had have been in running state and to fix the main issues was many times to be able to execute "kil
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 20 Days 11 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R. No, a hardware serial port is far superior when debugging boot and kernel problems. Specially if it very early.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 20 Days 12 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho I use ssh with keys, sure it only works if the machine can get network connectivity, but solves all my needs just use JuiceSSH from my phone and fix the issue, but after ditching KDE/Plasma5 (leaks humangus amount of ram if running two
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 20 Days 12 Hours ago by: Paul I had a play with my Linux drive on the Test Machine. I installed a few desktop environments, and tried them out. One of them, on a log out and log in, it caused a black screen, but I suspect that's just another instance of the video ca
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 21 Days 10 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R. Ubuntu has no root password.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 21 Days 15 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz It is absolutely insane to let kiddies work at Admin/Root-Level on your own PC. I do not feel sorry for you.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days ago by: Carlos E.R. Oops. Of course, Ubuntu. I forgot.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days ago by: Carlos E.R. They had the root password?
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days ago by: Mike Easter I fixed it; I backed up to a much simpler solution. Arriving at the desktop in the awkward 800x600, I opened a terminal, and in live pclos you don't sudo you just su and your terminal becomes #, then I modprobe radeon and the screen
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mountain Magpie Laptop was already booted up. I now recall they were installing different desktops, not distros. My bad, sorry.
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: Mike Easter I found a new strategy for trying this problem, but I've run into a 'gamma' problem: I'm trying to do it w/ xrandr: I tried to use cvt to get a line, but pclos doesn't have cvt nor in the repo/s. Then I found that I can use gtf (I ca
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 6 Hours ago by: Mike Easter What are the ages of these grandchildren?
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 7 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 2023-03-05, J.O. Aho wrote: The only caveat here is that you _might_ need to remount / as read-write (rw) instead of read-only (ro). So just be aware of this, in case it errors on updat
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 8 Hours ago by: Richmond You're right, I just tested it.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 9 Hours ago by: Edmund It probably can but different BIOS versions have different ways to select the boot sources. Check that
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 11 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho No, you don't need to know the root password, the init will start bash directly, so no login required. Had you just added the "single" without the "init" then yes, you would need to login as an user.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 12 Hours ago by: Paul How did the children manage to boot and start installing distros ??? If the children can boot, to mess up your lappy, then you can boot the Boot Repair CD to fix it. On my machines, I use the popup boot key (F8 on Asus, F11 on MSI). My
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 12 Hours ago by: Mountain Magpie Big problem is that I can't boot from a live disk. Can't change the boot up options. Any workaround for that?
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 13 Hours ago by: Richmond I think you will need the root password for that. What you might need to do is boot from a live disk or recovery disk, then chroot and set the root password.
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 21 Hours ago by: Mountain Magpie Thanks for the reply. Will try later, appreciate your help!
Re: Bricked a Linux laptop (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 22 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho No it's not bricked as you state below you get into uefi and grub. press 'e' key and then find the row saying "linux /vmlinuz-linux", move to the end of the row and add: single init=/bin/bash Now press F10 you will end up in a root p
Bricked a Linux laptop alt.os.linux Posted: 22 Days 22 Hours ago by: Mountain Magpie Don't ask LOL, but my Ubuntu laptop has been bricked completely (well almost). Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS, my grandchildren were "learning" Linus by installing various distos as alternates. Fail! Now, when I log in, I get a Debian log in screen
Re: A Subversive Question (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: bad sector I'm 79 and I love to be able to get into command line without ever wanting to HAVE to be in command line and microcancer makes me wanna puke; it IS malware! I have neither the time nor the competence to get into coding again (did amat
Re: A Subversive Question (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 24 Days 19 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R. Wow :-O
Re: A Subversive Question (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 24 Days 22 Hours ago by: David W. Hodgins I had one, because I neglected to scan a new hard drive that came pre-infected with the ripper virus. Once I figured out that my system was infected, with the stealthh mbr virus and cleaned it, I checked all of my floppies. None were infe
Re: A Subversive Question (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 25 Days ago by: Carlos E.R. I never got an infection. Somewhere in the 80's, when I got my first PC, I met the first virii. One we called the little ball (la pelotita, in Spanish). The other I don't remember the name. One was a boot virus, it infected or perverte
Re: A Subversive Question (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 25 Days 1 Hour ago by: TJ Full disclosure: There was another reason. 23 years ago, after using Windows 98SE for a little less than a year, I opened an email from a source I thought could be trusted. The result was that I suddenly had to learn how to re-install
Re: A Subversive Question (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R. Same as many people :-)
Re: A Subversive Question (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 25 Days 4 Hours ago by: TJ Your subversive questions (There was more than one. I count 3, plus one subversive comment.) seem to indicate that you believe there are only two ways to, for lack of a better phrase, "earn the right" to use an OS: one involving currenc
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 25 Days 15 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho Keep in mind that many distros has their own kernel config and also there are different ways to configure applications, so the possibilities are endless what kind of results you can get. By the way, is there a boot option to boot wit
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days ago by: Java Jive Not the same hardware, NVidia in my case, but once had similar problems in Ubuntu. AFAICR - it was rather a long time ago, and I can't be sure now what I did back then - the problem turned out to be a corrupt user profile, and I h
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days ago by: Mike Easter From the link you provided or maybe a link from that, I'm learning about Vulkan, which my HD 4200 doesn't support, but I wouldn't think that would cause the big 'regression'. OpenGL would be fine w/ me.
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days ago by: Mike Easter I'm puzzled by the fact that other current linux distro/s have no problem loading the radeon driver and solving the res/freq problem. I can almost 'tell' when things come undone during the boot. From early in the boot gitgo everythin
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days ago by: J.O. Aho Sadly as you said, not much info there. Yeah, the driver does support the Radeon HD 4200, so we know it should theoretically work, but for some reason it picks the framebuffer driver instead, which then limits the resolution quite a
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days ago by: J.O. Aho Found a page that did talk a bit of older Radeon cards, there you may need to experiment with radeon.si_support=1 amdgpu.si_support=0 or and radeon.cik_support=1 amdgpu.cik_support=0 I reversed the values as the suggestions was for car
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mike Easter In a normal situation like my LM live which has the radeon driver loaded, I get loaded and unloaded. In an abnormal situation like PCLOS which does /not/ have the radeon driver loaded, I do /not/ get an unloaded. I get driver: N/A an
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mike Easter amd_iommu=on nor amd_iommu=on iommu=soft in the boot parameter benefitted the res problem.
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days 3 Hours ago by: Mike Easter There's a log and an old log which are the same age but slightly different sizes. In both, the radeon driver is loaded and then unloaded, but I don't know why. https://pastebin.com/XApT0A8Y https://pastebin.com/0u3PEKpL 1 - loaded at
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days 9 Hours ago by: Paul Actually, it's an HD4250 and that might even make a difference. (Not a practical difference, just a "bookkeeper difference".) [Picture] https://i.postimg.cc/PJHwkfX9/pclinuxos.gif The PCLinuxOS has a safe mode for graphics of
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days 10 Hours ago by: Paul For the inxi -G on the pclos, try the equivalent of sudo inxi -G like it says, so you get the "loaded:" and "unloaded:" information. I think my single-core laptop uses HD4200. Paul
Re: PCLOS live boot gfx problem (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days 14 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho The kernel parameters for resolution do not affect the Xorg, from what it looks the Xorg may not include the radeon driver so it uses the default vga driver instead. I would suggest you look for errors in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see
PCLOS live boot gfx problem alt.os.linux Posted: 26 Days 22 Hours ago by: Mike Easter I haven't been able to solve this on my own and I'm still waiting on pclos forum credentials. Problem: I've tried 3 or 4 of the most recent pclos w/ the same effect. I'm trying to boot a live off Ventoy USB. In the beginning such as th
Re: Download all domain for offline reading? Application or browser (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 27 Days 13 Hours ago by: Edmund That is a very friendly way to put it. :-)
Re: A Subversive Question (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 1 Month ago by: bad sector NO one, EVER, is going to spend one dime on finding out what movies I watch on netfucks, and my network is half a dozen in-house users half of those again being myself. There's nothing to be had here, period. But I don't wanna come acr
Re: A Subversive Question (thread) alt.os.linux Posted: 1 Month 1 Day ago by: bad sector Touché, but if you don't have a sense of humor remember that even God had tons of it, if you don't think so just look around you. Oterwise do as I say and not as I do.

Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread)

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Posted: 1 Hour 51 Minutes ago by: Grant Taylor

I got a lot closer to the proper people than that. But, I'm not at liberty to go into details. Suffice it to say that I would not bet a gas station cup of coffee on Google continuing to support Usenet in any capacity.

Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread)

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Posted: 2 Hours 15 Minutes ago by: Andy Burnelli

I live in the area so I know lots of people who work there too, and even then, as you found out yourself, the best I could get is a phone callback. One mistake I made in my prior post that Andy Burns pointed out is I misspelled "narkiv

Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread)

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Posted: 5 Hours 40 Minutes ago by: Grant Taylor

Hi Andy, Thank you Andy. :-) I too have gotten Google to fix a few things. It's a long, slow, and arduous process. It's also predicated on them wanting to fix things when pointed out to them. I know someone that worked there an

Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread)

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Posted: 8 Hours 16 Minutes ago by: Andy Burnelli

I'm not sure if J.O. Aho understood we're talking only about the read-only web-searchable "g" archives (although I'm sure people can log into their Google Account to send spam but SENDING is decidedly not the topic here). On the Windo

Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread)

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Posted: 15 Hours 34 Minutes ago by: J.O. Aho

That would be a great day, a lot less spam posted.

Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread)

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Posted: 17 Hours 31 Minutes ago by: Andy Burnelli

Hi Grant, I've dealt with you favorably many times in the past years and I agree that what you speak of above is wisdom borne of experience with google. I'm a persistent person, and even I have trouble getting Google to fix things but

Re: Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup (thread)

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Posted: 18 Hours 29 Minutes ago by: Grant Taylor

I have first hand experience with Google refusing to create new Usenet newsgroups. N.B. Google Groups (proper) is completely different than the Google Groups Usenet interface. I speculate that Google is going to discontinue their Usen

Google Groups Archives for this newsgroup

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Posted: 18 Hours 38 Minutes ago by: Andy Burnelli

This was just posted on the Windows newsgroups, but it applies equally to those on these specialty newsgroups who search before they ask questions. Paul wrote: Hi Paul, I often run a search before asking questions, and when researching

[X-POST] [OT] proposal for an NG dedicated to artificial-intelligence