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Re: Ubuntu 22.10 is dropping PulseAudio (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 2 Hours 22 Minutes ago by: Paul

I think for most of us, the "endless sound wars" become more of a "will my sound work", than any discussion about the merits of the technical bits underneath. Think of the misery some Audacity developer is going through right now. Pa

Re: Ubuntu 22.10 is dropping PulseAudio (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Hours 55 Minutes ago by: Albert Arkwright

Is there anything safe these days? Did they give any reasons why they are dropping "PulseAudio"? I hope this world will continue to operate without PulseAudio!

Re: grep: exclude dir only into root (not into sub-dirs) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 2 Days 11 Hours ago by: jak

I sent you this same solution yesterday with a little script to read the exclude.txt file: #! /usr/bin/bash argum="" for line in `cat exclude.txt` do if [ "${argum}" != "" ] then argum="${argum} -or" fi argu

Re: grep: exclude dir only into root (not into sub-dirs) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 2 Days 14 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

I solved this find \ . \ -type f \ ! -path ./dir/* \ -exec grep xxx {} \;

Re: grep: exclude dir only into root (not into sub-dirs) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 2 Days 14 Hours ago by: Java Jive

So specify the full path to the dir you want to exclude.

grep: exclude dir only into root (not into sub-dirs)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 2 Days 16 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

$ tree ├── dir │   └── f ├── dir2 │   └── dir │   └── f └── f $ grep -r xxx dir/f:xxx dir2/dir/f:xxx f:xxx $ grep -r --exclude-dir=dir xxx f:xxx But I would like to exclude only *dir* a

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 10 Hours ago by: jak

you will need a small shell-script to do this I couldn't test it: #! /usr/bin/bash argum="" for line in `cat exclude.txt` do if [ "${argum}" != "" ] then argum="${argum} -or" fi argum

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 10 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

Thank you. I will consider whether to use this code snippet.

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 10 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Perhaps change last line to ... grep ${EXCLUSIONS} -r "$1" .... in case $1 contains spaces.

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 10 Hours ago by: Java Jive

The following has not been actually tested, but has been derived by copying and modifying lines from an existing working script, so it should get you close enough for you to finish the job, even if it contains a bug or two ... #!/bin/

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 11 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

Ok, but I wanted to interface with an external file (exclude.txt)

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 12 Hours ago by: Joe Beanfish

That would print every filename, not just the ones that match grep. grep -H already mentioned by others is the way to go.

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 12 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

find ./q -type f ! -path "*xxx*" ! -path "*zzz*" ! -path "*yyy*" -exec grep -H a {} \; It's possible to use at least some limited regex too, in this example find ./q -type f ! -path "*[xzy][xzy][xzy]*" -exec grep -H a {} \; would give

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 12 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

$ cat exclude.txt xxx yyy zzz $ find mock-dir -type f -exec grep -H xxx {} \; mock-dir/file:xxx mock-dir/xxx/file:xxx mock-dir/ccc/file:xxx mock-dir/bbb/file:xxx mock-dir/yyy/file:xxx mock-dir/zzz/file:xxx mock-dir/aaa/file:xxx But I wa

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 15 Hours ago by: jak

I apologize. When I read the message I didn't see the thread alignment correctly. I deleted the message immediately but it was too late.

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 15 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

I think he can manage to read whole threads, not just those that are a direct reply to his posts, so I go with the natural flow instead of a sub-set of jeopardy flow.

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 15 Hours ago by: jak

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 16 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

This will loose the file name mentioned as each grep will be for a specific file, so you will need to add the -H option for grep "find .... -exec grep -H {} \;"

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 3 Days 17 Hours ago by: jak

you can try "find .... -exec grep {} \;" and let the "find" command choose the filenames for the "grep".

Re: What's the best and easy way to copy/move my old slow 320 GB

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 3 Hours ago by: Kirk_Rockstein

Boot up the latest version of SytemRescueCD/USB with both drives attached. Use fdisk -l to determine where the drives are located on the /dev tree. (example; determine which drive is /dev/sda and which is /dev/sdb) Partition the new SSD d

Re: What's the best and easy way to copy/move my old slow 320 GB SATA HDD's updated Debian bullseye v11.3 to an old fast 115 GB SSD (going to wipe it clean)?

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 6 Hours ago by: Anton Ertl

Create partitions on the SSD as desired, mkfs them, and then copy the contents of the directory with e.g., rsync, tar or cpio. Then (the hard part) install the boot loader on your SSD so that it boots Linux. No tips for that from me, it

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 9 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

ok, thanks

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 9 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

yes, ok, but so there is no solution?

Re: Pulse input options (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 11 Hours ago by: Paul

https://thelinuxexperiment.com/pulseaudio-monitoring-your-line-in-interface/ "... load a module called loopback, which unsurprisingly, loops incoming audio back through your outputs. This means that you can hear everything

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 11 Hours ago by: Joe Beanfish

--exclude-from only matches files, not descended dirs. You'll have to specify --exclude-dir multiple times, once for each dir to exclude.

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 12 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Fx ROOM wrote: because "dir" is does not match the filename glob. Did you even read the manual concerning what limitations there were? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE3asj

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 13 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

Not work :( $ cat exclude dir $ grep -r --exclude-from exclude xxx dir/file:xxx file:xxx

Re: grep: exclude dirs from file (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 15 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Fx ROOM wrote: You use "--exclude-from". For full details of usage/limitations/etc., consult the grep(1) manpage (or if you prefer, the GNU infopages) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQI

grep: exclude dirs from file

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 16 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

First of all $ cat dirs build src docs We come to the point $ grep -r --exclude-dir=build xxx I only excluded the directory *build*. But if I want to exclude all the directories listed in the file *dirs*?

Re: Pulse input options (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 20 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

If I remember it right The dedicated mic input on your audio card The line-in input on your audio card (thought to be used with external audio devices like a record player) The Monitor should give you the audio you hear, this can be

Pulse input options

alt.os.linux

Posted: 4 Days 22 Hours ago by: bad sector

Cmi8788 [Oxygen HD Audio](Virtuoso 100 (XONAR ..etc Line-In (dropdown selection) and Monitor of Cmi8788 [Oxygen HD Audio](Virtuoso 100 (XONAR ..etc What's the difference? The 'monitor' line uses all card traffic as input? What fil

Re: Unable to get arpwatch to work in my brand new Debian bullseye v11.3 install... (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 6 Days 3 Hours ago by: Ant

Thanks. It's sure different from older versions. :O

Re: Unable to get arpwatch to work in my brand new Debian bullseye (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 6 Days 10 Hours ago by: Joe Beanfish

Looks like you have to do some setup for your interface(s). See https://www.mybluelinux.com/arpwatch-monitor-mac-addresses-change/

Unable to get arpwatch to work in my brand new Debian bullseye v11.3 install...

alt.os.linux

Posted: 10 Days ago by: Ant

Hello. I finally installed a brand new Debian bullseye v11.3 into my 13 yrs. old PC since my Jessie v8 was just too old and needed to start clean. I'm having problems getting arpwatch to start: # /etc/init.d/arpwatch start Starting arp

Re: Mixmin newsgroup malfunctioning ? (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 11 Days 10 Hours ago by: R.Wieser

Paul, Thanks. I really had no idea how to contact anyone over there. Lets see if that one is still active and read. <email send> Regards, Rudy Wieser

Re: Mixmin newsgroup malfunctioning ? (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 11 Days 11 Hours ago by: Paul

I don't have that group subscribed on mixmin, but a quick test shows the issue you are seeing. Sure, it has high water and low water, but the spool has nothing in it. Probably something needs to be rebuilt, as other groups are OK. Now,

'xscreensaver-command -time' gives sometimes wrong response

alt.os.linux

Posted: 11 Days 13 Hours ago by: Cecil Westerhof

xscreensaver-command -time would give back a string containing locked. This often works, but not always. Sometimes my screen is locked while I keep getting back non-blanked. I have another strange problem that seems to be related. Wh

Mixmin newsgroup malfunctioning ?

alt.os.linux

Posted: 11 Days 18 Hours ago by: R.Wieser

Hello all, For the last number of days I see that the alt.os.linux newsgroup on the news.mixmin.net server updates its message low- and high watermarks, but when asked for messages it says it doesn't have any. Other newsgroups there wor

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 12 Days 4 Hours ago by: Bit Twister

Your UFIE ESP needs to be able to hold all the uefi files for all the installs installed. Separate partitions are necessary if you want to boot other installs. For example I keep four partitions, Previous, Current, Next, and Testing. E

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 12 Days 5 Hours ago by: Paul

I have a suspicion, thinking about it, that creating a /, a /home, a /boot, the /boot may take the pressure off the ESP needing to be larger. I haven't tested that yet. Some OSes have an exceptionally large partition count. Like ChromeOS

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 12 Days 8 Hours ago by: Paulo da Silva

That's what I'm trying to avoid :-)

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 12 Days 8 Hours ago by: Paulo da Silva

Ok, thank you.

Re: bash shell options for commands viewing (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 12 Days 15 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

ok thanks ;)

Re: bash shell options for commands viewing (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 12 Days 16 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Fx ROOM wrote: No, because "piping" is not a single command. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE3asj+xn6fYUcweBnbWVw5UznKGAFAmJ7gnYACgkQbWVw5Uzn KGC6FQ//Qchj+J23K+whUw+l47Axyz

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 12 Days 16 Hours ago by: Paul

I agree that "most" partition types can be managed that way. With the ESP you have to be careful about what you do. The ESP should stay on the left. I once ran a disk with two ESPs (there are two numbers you can use in gdisk for this),

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 12 Days 20 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

Sure, it will work, the issue will then be the old main, it will then loose it's grub.

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: Bit Twister

I am impressed. When I run into cannot expand a partition problem, I just delete it and create it again with the desired size.

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: Paul

Installs OK in a VM. No need for the DVD in this case. https://i.postimg.cc/BbxCcQh3/POPOS-Legacy-Install.gif Paul

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 7 Hours ago by: Paul

Tried UEFI install on an existing UEFI. It stopped the install during grub installation with stop code 171. Before that happened, it requested that the ESP be made bigger. But there's no tool to do that. Gparted (provided) tried to do it

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 7 Hours ago by: Paul

Yes. Paul

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 9 Hours ago by: Paulo da Silva

Thanks. By ESP do you mean the partition mounted as /boot/efi?

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 9 Hours ago by: Paulo da Silva

I read it and understand it. Just one question: If I decide to make the new distribution the main one, is just enough to do, for example for sda, install-grub /dev/sda under this new distro? Thanks

Re: bash shell options for commands viewing (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 13 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

More or less. But maybe I haven't explained myself. $ (set -x; echo abc | cat) + echo abc + cat abc You could not have piping on a single line? Examples: + echo abc | cat or $ echo abc | cat or # echo abc | cat I think it is more rea

Re: bash shell options for commands viewing (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 14 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

The painstaking echo "+ echo \"$@\" | cat" ;)

Re: bash shell options for commands viewing (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 16 Hours ago by: Richard Kettlewell

I think they are trying to get the effect of the -x option but before subsitutions have been applied. I don’t know of a way to achieve that.

Re: piping stdout and stderr (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 16 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Fx ROOM wrote: You get the output you do, because you are specifically setting the exit codes in each function. In other words, you're doing something completely different from what you a

Re: bash shell options for commands viewing (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 16 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Fx ROOM wrote: Your entire post makes no sense. What are you really trying to do? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE3asj+xn6fYUcweBnbWVw5UznKGAFAmJ6LqYACgkQbWVw5Uzn KGCI+xAA

bash shell options for commands viewing

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 18 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

$ cat file.sh echo "$@" | cat $ bash -x file.sh 123 + echo 123 + cat 123 He doesn't satisfy me. $ bash -v file.sh 123 echo "$@" | cat 123 He doesn't satisfy me. In practice I would like an output of this type: + echo 123 | cat Can y

Re: piping stdout and stderr (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 18 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

However, here is my experiment to summarize --- SCRIPT --- echo_ec() { echo OUT1 echo ERR1 > /dev/stderr echo OUT2 echo ERR2 > /dev/stderr return 101 } cat_ec() { cat return 102 } ec() { echo

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 19 Hours ago by: Paul

If you are concerned, as a multi-booter, you would do a disk backup before beginning. The ESP partition is just a VFAT one. ******* What you can do is - make a copy of ESP and examine it: sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=myESP.img bs48576

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 20 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

Really few distributions uses something else than grub2 nowadays and there is a great site called distrowatch that has some information about distros, see here: https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=popos You will see that pop

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 20 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

That only if you decide to install grub at the same place for each distribution, for a multi Linux install I would recommend you pick one distribution as your main one (using mbr/efi) and then the rest install their grub on the partiti

Re: piping stdout and stderr (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 20 Hours ago by: Jasen Betts

example number two "COMMAND1 2> >(COMMAND2)" #1 gives the return code of COMMAND2 Other differences. missed your first reply.

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 13 Days 21 Hours ago by: Paulo da Silva

Yes, but does pop os use grub?

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 14 Days ago by: Bit Twister

Just keep in mind that you can do several different installs, but the last install's grub is the one it charge until you have some other install's grub be in charge.

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 14 Days 4 Hours ago by: Paulo da Silva

I'll take a look at this although it is from 2020. Thanks.

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 14 Days 4 Hours ago by: Paulo da Silva

My main concern is that it will use the UEFI stuff directly to install and I am not very comfortable with that. Everything that matters to me is it being able to install basic stuff on a single partition with perhaps a swap file (not ne

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 14 Days 8 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

They use gparted.

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 14 Days 9 Hours ago by: Mike Easter

Apparently Pop has its 'own' installer. Personally I don't use a distro's installer to 'sort out' my partitions for setting up the install. I prefer to get everything situated w/ GPartEd -- on a conventional installer that typically

Re: A question about pop os install (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 14 Days 9 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

Thinks so, I never found a Linux distribution you can't install next to another, here is one example how to install next to microsofts os: https://blnlabs.com/dual-boot-pop-os-and-windows-10/

A question about pop os install

alt.os.linux

Posted: 14 Days 9 Hours ago by: Paulo da Silva

Hi! Does pop os install normally on a free partition in a multiboot windows/kubuntu (grub) system? Better if using grub. Thanks for any answer/enlightments on this.

Re: Where is my NHS account (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 14 Days 9 Hours ago by: mechanic

Don't overlook the obvious though!

Re: bash prompt hoof-in-mouth disease (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 14 Days 12 Hours ago by: Joe Beanfish

Yes, the \[ and \] delineate the non-displaying escape codes so bash can know how long the displayed prompt is for proper cursor positioning.

Re: piping stdout and stderr (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 14 Days 15 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

Is anybody there? Jasen Betts, you are disappeared?

Re: bash prompt hoof-in-mouth disease (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 16 Days ago by: bad sector

the above didn't work either, so I plagiarized this from Artix into the Suse .bashrc export PS1="\[\033[1;93m\]\w # \[\033[0m\]" it does EXACTLY the job I want the full path, space, #, space /0/dx/homes/Lpu3 # (for root it's red, into

Re: bash prompt hoof-in-mouth disease (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 16 Days 6 Hours ago by: bad sector

a carriage "\r" return at the front seems to fix PS1="\r\e[0;93m\w #\e[m\]" BUT, why is it required?

Re: bash prompt hoof-in-mouth disease (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 16 Days 6 Hours ago by: bad sector

changing to "\e[0;93m\w #\e[0m\] " gives same result initial prompt (after a Cntl-C) / # no quotes, as desired ^ then up arrows to start memory list ^ / # source ~/.bashrc ....sofar so good ^ / # export PS1="\e[0;93m\w #\e[0m

Re: bash prompt hoof-in-mouth disease (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 16 Days 11 Hours ago by: Aragorn

You did not properly terminate the escape sequences in the prompt with a reset sequence. Try adding "\[\e[0m\]" to the end of the PS1 string.

bash prompt hoof-in-mouth disease

alt.os.linux

Posted: 16 Days 13 Hours ago by: bad sector

$PS1 (direct) = \e[0;93m\w #\e[m $PS2 (interactive) = > $PS3 $PS4 = + the (Suse) system wide setup in /etc/bash.bashrc is: case "$(declare -p PS1 2> /dev/null)" in *-x*PS1=*) ;; *) # With full path on prompt PS1="${_t}$

Re: Apple, Google & Microsoft want to kill the password with Passkey standard (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 16 Days 16 Hours ago by: Richard Kettlewell

They are also routinely captured via phishing and keyloggers.

Re: Apple, Google & Microsoft want to kill the password with Passkey (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 17 Days 1 Hour ago by: bad sector

Data-denial is the name of the game; except briefly and volatile to complete a transaction, criminalize complicity in the commercial storage or traffic of someone else's personal data.

Re: Apple, Google & Microsoft want to kill the password with Passkey (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 17 Days 2 Hours ago by: David W. Hodgins

Passwords do fail, but it's usually when one of those companies or government institutions get hacked with their user's passwords leaked, and the user uses the same password on other sites. Using something you have, combined with somethi

Re: Apple, Google & Microsoft want to kill the password with Passkey (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 17 Days 2 Hours ago by: bad sector

I haven't either; most web 'facilities' for example don't even let you use a half decent pwd. of any length of any characters. The cited unholy trinity of vocational parasites predictably wants to be an unsolicited in-betweener vacuuming

Re: Apple, Google & Microsoft want to kill the password with (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 17 Days 3 Hours ago by: RonB

Their hyperbole basically claims that passwords are failing spectacularly. In about 30 years of using the Internet I've never had one password compromised. More FUD by control-freak corporations and their partners in the control-freak

Re: Apple, Google & Microsoft want to kill the password with Passkey (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 17 Days 9 Hours ago by: bad sector

The $trangleware gestapo snoops wanna know everything about everyone all of the time

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 17 Days 13 Hours ago by: Jasen Betts

yeah 54 bytes becomes 74 so actually closer to 37%, but 40% is close enough fior government work.

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 17 Days 16 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

On my phone, when using the gmail application and the camera application, they are also shared via google drive or google photos. It also happens when sharing via whatsapp.

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 17 Days 19 Hours ago by: jak

in the part converted to base64 this affects 1/72 (1 line break every 72 bytes) only

Re: Apple, Google & Microsoft want to kill the password with (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 17 Days 23 Hours ago by: RonB

So, since I turn Bluetooth off on my devices, does this mean I'm not going to be able to log into my own computer? These people really, REALLY want to know where you are at all times, don't they?

Apple, Google & Microsoft want to kill the password with Passkey standard

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 2 Hours ago by: NewsKrawler

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/05/apple-google-and-microsoft-want-bluetooth-proximity-to-replace-the-password/ Apple, Google & Microsoft want to kill the password with Passkey standard Apple, Google, and Microsoft are launching a "jo

hackers to the fore!

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 2 Hours ago by: bad sector

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-will-pay-hackers-to-identify-vulnerabilities-on-government-sites-1.5890625 "between $50 and $7,500 *each time* they identify a security issue on a government site"

Re: automount, binding and symlink (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 12 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

it works

Re: piping stdout and stderr (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 12 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

#2? and vice versa? That is? ????

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 14 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Jasen Betts wrote: Oh, no, I didn't mean that they should've set a "hard limit" by any means -- more that it comes across as the author is only begrudgingly accepting that limits make sense

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 15 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

It is not an upper limit. It is: in the case there is an upper limit, it has to be bigger or equal than 10 megs. If that "rule" did not exist, mail servers might have set a limit of 1 meg, for instance, creating a lot of problem when

Re: automount, binding and symlink (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 15 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

No, ls /mnt/router-storage See above.

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 16 Hours ago by: Jasen Betts

I think he means MX (and any servers behind the MX)

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 MB ??? (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 16 Hours ago by: Jasen Betts

Why set a hard upper limit in a standard? all that does ie ensure obsolescence and encourage bad programmers to write cruddy software. when I checked last year the big three were all accepting over 25M, but historically they had lower l

Re: automount, binding and symlink (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 16 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

Again? # BINDING $ ls /mnt/off-line/various.css ls: impossibile accedere a '/mnt/off-line/various.css': File o directory non esistente # SYMLINK $ ls /tmp/off-line/various.css /tmp/off-line/various.css What info do you want?

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 16 Hours ago by: Jasen Betts

Base64 makes files 40% larger. This is mostl bit padding but there is a contribution from line breaks too.

Re: piping stdout and stderr (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 16 Hours ago by: Jasen Betts

#2 only redirects stderr, stdout escapes. #2 gives the return code of COMMAND1 and vice versa. possibly others.

Re: automount, binding and symlink (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 17 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

But did you try? Information is incomplete, you do not answer questions. Maybe it seems that systemd automount doesn't see an attempt to list a directory in a binded mount.

Re: automount, binding and symlink (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 18 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

???? At least did you understand the problem?

piping stdout and stderr

alt.os.linux

Posted: 18 Days 18 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

$ COMMAND1 2>&1 | COMMAND2 $ COMMAND1 2> >(COMMAND2) Difference?

Re: automount, binding and symlink (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 19 Days 7 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

Why do you do: sudo mount -a instead of: /mnt/router-storage to try the automount setup?

Re: automount, binding and symlink (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 19 Days 10 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

????

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 19 Days 13 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Grant Taylor wrote: A quick DDG'ing session this morning hit on RFC5321, which states in §4.5.3.1.7: The maximum total length of a message content (including any message header secti

Re: automount, binding and symlink (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 19 Days 15 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

Instead, why don't you try ls /mnt/router-storage ? Maybe it has not been implemented.

automount, binding and symlink

alt.os.linux

Posted: 19 Days 17 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

$ grep 'storage ' /etc/fstab //192.168.1.254/disk_a1 /mnt/router-storage cifs noauto,x-systemd.automount,_netdev,x-systemd.idle-timeout00,guest,vers=1.0,nounix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode77,dir_mode77 0 0 To notice x-systemd.idle-timeout0

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 19 Days 21 Hours ago by: Grant Taylor

Did you mean MUA? Because both the sending and receiving MUAs need to be able to work with the 80 MB raw / 120 MB encoded attachment / message too. Any MTA that alters the message without making it extremely evident that it did so i

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 19 Days 21 Hours ago by: Grant Taylor

I think that it's still easy to send large attachments as it used to be. If anything it may even be easier with faster connections. So what you mean is a well run standards compliant email server. ....well run standards compliant e

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 20 Days 16 Hours ago by: jak

Exactly. From this derives my hypothesis. :^)

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 20 Days 17 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

:-? cer@Telcontar:~> apropos biff tknewsbiff (1) - pop up a window when news appears xbiff (1) - mailbox flag for X cer@Telcontar:~>

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 20 Days 17 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

Thunderbird had/has an association with such a service to do it transparently, I think.

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 20 Days 20 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

Even if Edmund's mail service provider accepts 100MB attachments, you need the receiving MTA to accept 100MB attachment. Either you get a bounce mail or the MTA strips the attachment which makes it look for you as it everything went we

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 20 Days 22 Hours ago by: Bit Twister

The new mail shows up as new mail in the Linux user Local mail inbox.

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: John Hasler

That's what biff is for. Exim4 or Postfix will deliver local mail to users.

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: Paul

Do you have an email provider who accepts a 100MB attachment ? I would think you'd have to chop that into pieces and send it in several emails. Attaching stuff isn't as easy as it used to be. What with all the fake scanning and so on.

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 1 Hour ago by: Carlos E.R.

It can produce very verbose logs, step by step of what it is doing, even mail by mail. But mind, that some messages are generated by the server, so you are stuck with those. Initially you can set it to "keep", not delete on the server

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: Edmund

Thank you all for the info. Yes my numbers where not the exact numbers but close enough to make my point.

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 3 Hours ago by: Bit Twister

The MTA is your transport on the install. I run Mageia Linux release and postfix is the MTA and is already setup to deliver local email. Then thunderbird is the MUA. I have just now finished setting up fetchmail for all my gmail acco

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 3 Hours ago by: John Hasler

An alternative to procmail is mailagent.

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: Paul

As a protection against "8th bit robbed signaling", email attachments set bit 8 to zero and ignore it. This allows for transportation methods which are only 7-bit transparent. The email system continues to be conservative, and plan for th

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: Grant Taylor

Base64 encoded content should be 4/3 of the original size.

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: Allodoxaphobia

+1 ! Jonesy

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 6 Hours ago by: John Hasler

Error messages from Fetchmail itself are, IMHO, quite clear. However it can do nothing about messages from the upstream server except relay them to you. Then Fetchmail is what you want.

Re: Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 7 Hours ago by: jak

hi, usually, when you send an attachment via email, it is converted to base64. probably 110MB is the new size of your attachment when it was converted. ceers

Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 MB

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 7 Hours ago by: Edmund

Thunderbird Warning the file ( of 80MB ) you want to send is 110 MB ??? Does anybody know what the other 30MB is? Edmund

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 9 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

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Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 10 Hours ago by: Peter Pearson

[snip] I'm a not-very-fancy Linux user who has been using fetchmail since 2001. Fetchmail has been a good tool: configuration is pretty logical, and it reports problems in a reasonable way. The problems I've seen have generally resulted

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 11 Hours ago by: John Hasler

The best that Fetchmail can do here is forward the error messages it receives. J.O. Aho writes: You can configure your local MTA to connect to your email provider's MTA and have it forward outgoing mail. This is exactly what your MUA d

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 13 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

The error massages are quite basic, now it's quite many years ago I used fetchmail last time, so I can't say if they are cryptic or not. There was times that fetchmail had issues with some specific mails, that was kind of the only time

Re: about FETCHMAIL (for its users) (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 13 Hours ago by: Bit Twister

Sounds like that would depend on the server. Not fetchmail I have. Depends on your requirements. I did not want to bring up a browser to check each of my $ grep mail /etc/passwd | wc -l 7 internet email accounts for new emai

about FETCHMAIL (for its users)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 14 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

In a recent 3D I've learned about the existence of this program and a principle (unknown to me beforehands, I never ever imagined the collection of Emails in two separate stages, I've been using thunderbird since 1996 and nothing else f

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 21 Days 14 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS Release: 20.04 Codename: focal $ ls -l *sh -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1183448 apr 18 11:14 bash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 129816 lug 18 2019

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 13 Hours ago by: HASM

Yup. The ... in my post poll <imap server> with proto imap port 993 uidl auth password user <username> pass <password> folders <folders> options ssl pass8bits no keep flush ... correspond to in my ~/.fetchmalrc mda 'proc

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 13 Hours ago by: Richard Kettlewell

The word ‘blockchain’ is used to sell stuff to enterprises that don’t realize that their goals can be reached just as well (or better) without it. One of my ex-colleagues is using exactly this strategy (and was quite up-front about

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 14 Hours ago by: Stéphane CARPENTIER

Which is stupid. At the moment you choose your citizen can vote from home, their votes can be bought and the cybersecurity is a waste of money.

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 14 Hours ago by: Bit Twister

It does. I used fetchmail to fetch all my internet email to the local user's account until google changed the rules. You just create a new user, enter the Linux local user id/pw and set/point to the local node MTA. Installed dovecot to h

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 15 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

Blockchain technology is not only about payment systems.

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 15 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

It is simply untrue. "blockchain technology" is used in modern security systems. You can google it: google: blockchain used in security <https://www.itbusinessedge.com/security/potential-use-cases-of-blockchain-technology-for-cyberse

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 15 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

Don't set follow up. You provoke that some people will not see all the answers, if they are not subscribed in your preferred group. Now I have to seek this thread in both groups and ferret out the posts that were sent to one and not th

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 15 Hours ago by: Carlos E.R.

Fetchmail is a tool that fetches email. It "only" does that and does it extremely well, in the unix tradition. It passes email to the local smtp server (or MTA) (any correct Linux install has one, since ever) which "sends" the email to

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 16 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

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Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 17 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

As you see you are using dash (guessing you are using debian or a distro based on it), what you have to keep in mind dash ain't bash, so the example will not work as you expect as the example requires that sh points at bash. If it'

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 18 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 lug 18 2019 /bin/sh -> dash How do I know?

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 18 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS Release: 20.04 Codename: focal ~$ ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 lug 18 2019 /bin/sh -> dash

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 22 Days 19 Hours ago by: Jasen Betts

localhost via smtp I don't recall if thunderbird still supports local email, but if not you can install an imap or pop3 server to make the emails accessable.

Massive Chrome Security Update For 3.2 Billion Users

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 2 Hours ago by: NewsKrawler

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2022/04/30/warning-massive-new-security-update-for-32-billion-google-chrome-users-confirmed/?sh5bf6fb41d9 Massive Chrome Security Update For 3.2 Billion Users Hot on the heels of two emergency fix

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 4 Hours ago by: John Hasler

On Debian setting up exim4 to handle local mail is trivial. Just answer the questions during installation. Fetchmail will then pass incoming mail to it for local delivery.

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 4 Hours ago by: John Hasler

In Debian /bin/sh is a link to dash, a POSIX shell. Whatever he has it certainly isn't the Bourne shell, which was the "original sh".

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 5 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

fetchmail is a tool to fetch mail from one or more mail services (pop(s)/imap(s)) and re-post them to your local MTA. So you need to setup a postfix/sendmail/qmail/... server which then handles your mail and store it in a local mbox o

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 5 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

Then your /bin/sh ain't bash for sure, as bash supports --version. You can do a "ls -l /bin/sh", it will show if the sh is substituted by another shell, like the one provided by busybox, dash, ... It's quite uncommon nowadays to have

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 8 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

is that a cmdline email client ? If so, where does it store emails and is "compatible" with existing thunderbird's storage folders ? I have more than 25 yrs of emails archived there ...

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 8 Hours ago by: David W. Hodgins

Check using ls. On my Mageia 8 system ... $ ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Dec 30 2020 /bin/sh -> bash* Regards, Dave Hodgins

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 12 Hours ago by: HASM

poll <imap server> with proto imap port 993 uidl auth password user <username> pass <password> folders <folders> options ssl pass8bits no keep flush ...

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 14 Hours ago by: Paul

cat /etc/shells then https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38237907/how-can-i-find-my-shell-version-using-a-linux-command https://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/whatshell/whatshell.sh $ sh -c './whatshell.sh' ash (Busybox 1

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 15 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

~$ /bin/sh --version /bin/sh: 0: Illegal option -- ???? ????

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 16 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

great!!! it works!!! thank you!!!

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 23 Days 16 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

do a "/bin/sh --version", could be that your sh ain't the one provided by bash, it could be the original sh, it could also be dash that I think is default in debian. There are distros that uses zsh as the default shell too. The exampl

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: Soviet_Mario

Oh, I did not know. I'll revise the settings then, to see If I'm able to configure that behaviour too. Tnx

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 3 Hours ago by: John Hasler

You can do that with IMAP.

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 3 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

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Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 6 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

oh, tnx for signalling me this. I was absolutely sure It did not support remote client fetching. If it does now, I'll try to learn how (if it is still free !). As for Pop3, I prefer to delete messages from server upon fetching here, th

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: marrgol

Of course it does, 'bash -eux' sets options errexit, nounset and xtrace, and they are indeed set in the SHELLOPTS variable, as your example shows: But for the options set in SHELLOPTS to be *used* in your X.sh and Y.sh scripts, they mus

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 12 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

???? I don't understand. However, bash doesn't work either $ head -n1 ./wrapper.sh #!/bin/bash -eux $ ./wrapper.sh + export SHELLOPTS + ./X.sh braceexpand:errexit:hashall:interactive-comments:nounset:xtrace

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 12 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

that is?

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 13 Hours ago by: marrgol

But not this one.

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 13 Hours ago by: Kenny McCormack

.... And even if it is (is bash, that is), it is being invoked as /bin/sh, so it runs in "POSIX" mode, which turns off most of the bash extras.

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 13 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Richard Kettlewell wrote: It's the "...but on the internet" fad of the dotcom bubble all over again. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE3asj+xn6fYUcweBnbWVw5UznKGAFAmJr3XoACgk

Re: SHELLOPTS not work (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 13 Hours ago by: marrgol

Maybe because your /bin/sh is not bash?

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 15 Hours ago by: Richard Kettlewell

Well, maybe... BHT algorithm would need O(2^85) queries to find collisions in SHA256. Uncomfortably low, but still a major challenge. But it’s the asymmetric signatures that will be completely broken if a sufficiently large quantum co

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 15 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

I think their marketing will be their doom. If you ask Trump, he will think so, but then he thinks he won the election even if he didn't manage to cheat enough with the votes. It's fast compared to the number of transaction per se

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 16 Hours ago by: Paul

The promotional terminology is "the Emperor has no clothes". A large number of claims are made. The claims "float in mid-air" like smog. Nothing holds them up. Nothing. Bitcoin for example, is traceable. Monero seems to be claimed to

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 16 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.] Soviet_Mario wrote: Well, POP3 is awful. IMAP/SMTP is supported: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/imap-smtp-and-pop3-setup/ ----

SHELLOPTS not work

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 17 Hours ago by: Fx ROOM

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4325444/bash-recursive-xtrace/4336195#4336195 However it doesn't seem to work $ cat wrapper.sh #!/bin/sh -eux # wrapper.sh which sets the options for all sub shells export SHELLOPTS ../X.sh $ cat X.sh #

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 24 Days 18 Hours ago by: Richard Kettlewell

Spend some time reading https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/.

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 25 Days 2 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

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Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 25 Days 2 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

so cryptical ...

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 25 Days 2 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

sure, no interoperability was expected well, not even Christ was born adult ! this point sounds obscure to me (I am not familiar with blockchain techs, I just know some key concepts). The name "lightning" seems to suggest fast acces

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 25 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jimmy Johnson

= "lightning network" - Google Trends

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 25 Days 12 Hours ago by: Dan Purgert

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.] J.O. Aho wrote: Have heard good things about them; but by the time they came on my radar, I'd been running things myself for ages. :| -----BEG

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 25 Days 13 Hours ago by: J.O. Aho

Crosspost ok, but not the follow-up, if you do so then no point in crossposting at all Then it's not google docs at all, so someone who shares a google doc with you, you still need to go to google and be tracked by them. Also if you u

Re: [semi-OT] Impervious browser project (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 25 Days 14 Hours ago by: Richard Kettlewell

If it involves a blockchain then it’s a scam.

[semi-OT] Impervious browser project

alt.os.linux

Posted: 25 Days 15 Hours ago by: Soviet_Mario

sorry for the crosspost (this two linus groups seem indistinguishable to me ...) More than a question (the browser in question, which I've heard about in a webinar, is not even out yet) just a vague request for OPINIONS (specific or g

Re: [zswap] Ubuntu 22.04 full Raspberry Pi 4 support on 2GB RAM (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 28 Days 14 Hours ago by: druck

I found the older Pi's with 1GB which could really benefit from zram are too slow (including the 3B+) and the Pi 4B which is fast enough doesn't really need it if it has 4GB or more of memory, so that leaves the 2GB Pi 4B which has eno

Re: [zswap] Ubuntu 22.04 full Raspberry Pi 4 support on 2GB RAM (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 29 Days 8 Hours ago by: Ahem A Rivet's Shot

Nothing much, unless you've already standardised on Ubuntu on other platforms.

Re: [zswap] Ubuntu 22.04 full Raspberry Pi 4 support on 2GB RAM (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 29 Days 9 Hours ago by: Jan Panteltje

Not sure it make much difference, my Oi4 4GB does not use any swap raspi95: /mnt/sda2/security/video # vmstat procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ------cpu----- r b swpd free buf

[zswap] Ubuntu 22.04 full Raspberry Pi 4 support on 2GB RAM

alt.os.linux

Posted: 29 Days 9 Hours ago by: NewsKrawler

https://www.xda-developers.com/ubuntu-22-04-release/ Ubuntu Linux 22.04 arrives with new desktop features and full Raspberry Pi 4 support Ubuntu 22.04 is the first release that works on all Raspberry Pi 4 models when using the full deskt

Re: non-kde window shading under plasma (thread)

alt.os.linux

Posted: 29 Days 10 Hours ago by: Bud Frede

It's available in Mint as well (Ubuntu-based) gtk3-nocsd - Disable Gtk+ 3 client side decorations (CSD)

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