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comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 9 Hours 27 Minutes ago by: Andy Burnelli

This was just posted on the Windows newsgroups, but it applies equally to those on these specialty newsgroups who search before they ask questions. *Google Groups Archives for this Usenet newsgroup* Paul wrote: Hi Paul, I often run a

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 1 Day 2 Hours ago by: David Brooks

Yes - providing the Apps have been obtained from the Apple App store. I'm more hesitant when it comes to Apps like Suspicious Package by Randy Saldinger, dba Mothers Ruin Software. I agree - 100%! Have YOU installed and run the FREE

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 1 Day 2 Hours ago by: TimS

On 26 Mar 2023 at 19:36:09 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote: Can you clowns stop responding to the Troll?

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 1 Day 3 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

By understanding that just because something may not be needed doesn't make it a scam. Have you always had trouble with critical thinking, or is this a recent issue for you? Data files. You don't have to install XProtect data file upd

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 1 Day 5 Hours ago by: jeremy

Do you not install updates, on trust, for all the software on your devices? Whether o/s or apps? You are totally at the mercy of every software vendor - hope that helps top up your paranoia.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 1 Day 6 Hours ago by: David Brooks

You agree that AV software is NOT necessary? Yet you claim that www.clamXAV.com is *NOT a scam. How do you rationalsise that? How would YOU describe them? I do not have to install THOSE Updates! *HOW* does one prevent Apple changi

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 1 Day 9 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

And yet you continue to ask this dumb question over and over for *years*. Strange, that... No they are not software packages. They are not executable and do nothing on their own. Stop lying. Software updates are also issued by Apple a

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 1 Day 14 Hours ago by: David Brooks

This thread is about whether or not Apple computers should be using third-party anti-malware software. The overwhelming consensus on the Apple Support Communities forums is that such software is *NOT* required. The XProtect *PAYLOADS*

Re: EIGHTEEN new zero-day vulnerabilities found in Samsung Exynos chipsets

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 1 Day 22 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

For the permanent Usenet record, below is an _adult_ observation... iKooks NOT being on Windows/Linux/Android ngs is _why_ they're cordial. *The _only_ reason for discord on Apple newsgroups is the religious iKooks.* *(iKooks v

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 1 Day 22 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

I wouldn't be the one being embarrassed. Phishing is the correct spelling for the social engineering tactic of tricking someone into visiting a fraudulent website to fool them into giving you their login credentials or other personal info

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 2 Days ago by: J Burns

Imagine how embarrassed you'd be if I'd corrected your spelling of "fishing." Fortunately, I looked it up. "Phishing" is a real word, so I won't embarrass you. These guys emailed me to inform me that my card had expired. That turned o

"...a lucky guess that got a lot more publicity than it deserved."

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 2 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan Browne

Gordon Moore 3 January 1929 – 24 March 2023

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Apple updated part of the OS that protects us from malware?!? ERRMEHERD, aPpLe iS MaNaGiNg wHaT DoEs oR DoEsN'T RuN On oUr mAcHiNeS AlL ThE WaY FrOm iTs hEaDqUaRtErS In cAlIfOrNiA!!! tHiS Is hOrRiBlE!!! 🤡

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 2 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Nobody who knows anything about computing security has claimed that Macs are supposedly "immune" from attack (online or otherwise). The actual truth is that Macs have very effective *built-in* protection from online threats, and as long a

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Liar. It's pretty much *all* you spread.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

This thread is about AVG, and neither one is a scam. What part of "XProtect is part of the operating system" did you not understand, dumbass? Fuck off, loser.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 2 Days 7 Hours ago by: J Burns

Is their logo really a toilet bowl? They're right. Macs are no longer immune from online threats. My Mac has received two threats this week, saying Apple would delete my iCloud files if it didn't supply my credit card info. I've been

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 7 Hours ago by: nospam

that's been explained to you before.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 7 Hours ago by: nospam

that is not proof of your original claim, nor is it even remotely close.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 9 Hours ago by: David Brooks

Test!

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 9 Hours ago by: David Brooks

*PROOF* that Apple recetly *DID* do just that! //Apple has just released an update to XProtect Remediator security software for Macs running Catalina or later, bringing it to version 93. Version 92 doesn’t appear to have been release

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 9 Hours ago by: David Brooks

PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 9 Hours ago by: David Brooks

You are 100% wrong about that, Snippy! Don't spread misinformation.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 10 Hours ago by: David Brooks

It's mostly about ClamXAV. I believe it to be a scam. I recently used Disk Utility to erase my hard drives (this machine is 18,3) and after reinstallation of macOS, I again downloaded ClamXAV from this site:- www.clamxav.com When inv

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 22 Hours ago by: Sn!pe

That is his intention.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Yet you continually post bullshit about third-party malware protection here. Strange, that. Nope. Your Mac monitors what is running on it to look for malware all on its own, without Apple's servers being involved (other than to update t

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

You're the one who is lying.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 2 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Nope, XProtect has been a built-in part of the operating system since 10.6 (Snow Leopard). Apple updates the existing list of malicious applications during security updates. Wrong again. System Preferences > Software Update > Advanced

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days ago by: Sn!pe

lol

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days ago by: nospam

unlike your parents.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 1 Hour ago by: David Brooks

macOS most certainly does have built-in protection. Yes, dummy, it *IS*!

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 3 Hours ago by: nospam

they cannot, nor is that even a realistic option if they could.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 3 Hours ago by: David Brooks

On 24/03/2023 16:09, nospam *LIED* They can - and they *DO*. Other readers are able to see your lies. <shrug>

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 3 Hours ago by: David Brooks

XProtect is ADDED to macOS as and when felt necessary by Apple. The user of the computer, if it is connected to the Internet, has no control over HOW apple manipulates the operating system. The action is, of course, designed to be in the

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

XProtect is part of macOS's built-in malware protection. It's literally part of the operating system, dumb dumb.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

macOS has built-in protection from malware, dummy. And I'm sure you've been told this numerous times. Apple isn't monitoring what runs on your Mac.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 7 Hours ago by: nospam

no they cannot. vladimir putin did.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 3 Days 8 Hours ago by: David Brooks

I agree, y the way! :-) Are YOU able to read here, Joerg? https://www.google.com/search?q=discussions.apple.com%2Fthread%2F254730926&source=hp&ei=MmcdZI2FC4iUhbIPirWDkAk&iflsig=AK50M_UAAAAAZB11QppYvGj2OhyxcCc_GUM61WTQMeSX&ved hUKEwiN5pW

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 8 Hours ago by: David Brooks

Yes, they can! If you look in System Settings > System Report > System Information > Software > Installations > Software Name You should see this:- https://ibb.co/2ccpz2P Who put *XProtectPayloads* there if not Apple itself? No user

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 9 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

Is DB again smoking funny stuff?

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 10 Hours ago by: nospam

they do not do that, nor can they do that.

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 3 Days 14 Hours ago by: David Brooks

Your comments are always read with interest, JR. Thank you. Are you able to access this thread? https://www.google.com/search?q=discussions.apple.com%2Fthread%2F254730926&source=hp&ei=MmcdZI2FC4iUhbIPirWDkAk&iflsig=AK50M_UAAAAAZB11QppYv

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 3 Days 15 Hours ago by: David Brooks

Possibly. Tell me, Joerg, if you do not use some form of AV software on your Mac, how would you, as the computer user, KNOW that your machine had been compromised? I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or d

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 3 Days 17 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

Total bullshit.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 4 Days 3 Hours ago by: Hank Rogers

You would cease to exist without iKooks. And the iKooks would wither too.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 4 Days 3 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

These are the "lies" which Jolly Roger speaks of... :) <https:// i.postimg.cc/Y09FCXjn/mothership09.jpg> App Store works mostly fine <https:// i.postimg.cc/tC869Nbk/mothership10.jpg> App Store installs apps <https:// i.postimg.cc/FKV

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 4 Days 7 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

+1

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 4 Days 7 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

VersionTracker, MacUpdate, and CNET Downloads regularly modify installers of software they make available for download by adding advertisements and bundling adware with it: <https://www.howtogeek.com/198622/heres-what-happens-when-you-in

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 4 Days 11 Hours ago by: Wade Garrett

SNIP ven on the few occasions it was found in the wild. CNET unsavory? I thought it's a safe, reputable site.

Re: Phone dialer via modem (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 5 Days ago by: nospam

you posted that a few days ago.

Phone dialer via modem

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 5 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mel C

One of the useful features of the iData Pro database was a phone dialer. I used this feature for phone dialing via a USR modem. The latest version of iData, v 5.1.01, has no phone dialer feature. Does anyone know of a Mac app that has a pho

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 5 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jolly Roger

They also don't often know the difference between an actual virus and malware which can be in the form of trojans, and are most often adware. Actually, viruses are a _type_ of malware. A computer *virus* is a type of malicious softwar

Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 5 Days 2 Hours ago by: gtr

I think you mean an "extreme rarity". The myth is, as stated by most Windows-centric loyalists, that Macs get viruses. They don't. Malware isn't usually considered a virus.

Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 5 Days 14 Hours ago by: David Brooks

There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a myth. AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac- specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like malicious websites, emails, and

Re: Phone dialer via modem (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 5 Days 20 Hours ago by: Percival John Hackwo

AFAIK, a dialer function would require a serial modem attached to your system. I don't know if the USB serial driver was ported to 64-bit. I know that's why AppleTalk stopped working. Do you have a USB-Serial port dongle? Can you send

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 1 Hour ago by: Siri Cruise

They're the comic relief.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 4 Hours ago by: Mr_Ön!on

The red nose gives it away, dear.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 6 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

What you are deliberately ignoring (naturally, since you are a regular participant in Arlen's regular trolling activities here) is that Arlen isn't a "random stranger" - he is a well-known troll in these newsgroups. And the thread about a

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 6 Days 6 Hours ago by: badgolferman

From: "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Apple announcement today - new yellow color option for iPhone 14 - with matching $49 case Date: 8 Mar 2023 21:42:21 GMT Message-ID: <k6sdptF88jsU1@mid.individual.net> Newsgroups:

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 7 Hours ago by: nospam

that was guaranteed to happen, no matter what anyone suggested. for 1blocker it's the price.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 6 Days 7 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

You were blinded by your irrational hatred, and couldn't see what was right there in the App Store listing for the app. And that's because you're nothing more than a weak-minded know-nothing troll whose only purpose in life is bullying co

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 6 Days 7 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Yep, and nospam even included a screenshot of it, but the lazy troll is too busy trolling to pay any attention to it. For his next trick, I predict he'll try to move the goal post and claim iSH doesn't count for "reasons". ; )

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 7 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

No he didn't. The name of the app is right there in his post. You're just a lazy troll.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 14 Hours ago by: nospam

two urls were provided, and it does. all you can do is dig yourself a deeper hole.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 6 Days 15 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

From this thread today... where I was wrong in that I had calcuated a 20-year times $15/year subscription cost for 1Blocker, but the iKooks found a much better "lifetime" subscription price, which I accept. I was wrong (in that my math w

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 16 Hours ago by: Alan B

Forgot to mention that iSH can also be installed on a Silicon Mac.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 16 Hours ago by: Alan B

You can run an emulated version of Alpine on iOS and iPadOS with the iSH Shell available on the App Store. I haven’t done much with it so don’t ask me for any tips! <https://github.com/ish-app/ish> Incidentally I’ve found that ins

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 17 Hours ago by: Rudolph Rhein

You lied. There is no URL. Linux doesn't work in the iOS walled garden. Linux works on Android. For Android, the URL is https://andronix.app/ For the iOS walled garden, the URL doesn't exist. You lied. Why? That's a valid deflection

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

My exact thought when reading his message. It's right there in your post. I find the people that tend to boast the most are more often than not the least capable and least knowledgeable. Especially a phone (or computer) that already r

Re: Phone dialer via modem (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: nospam

dialing with a *modem*? the 1990s wants you back.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: nospam

sufficient information was provided to answer that question. linux users like to claim they're smarter than everyone, so it should be no problem to figure it out. the real question is what possible reason would anyone want to run a lin

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 22 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

whoosh.

Phone dialer via modem

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 6 Days 22 Hours ago by: Mel C

One of the useful features of the iData Pro database was a phone dialer. I used this feature for phone dialing via a USR modem. The latest version of iData, v 5.1.01, has no phone dialer feature. Does anyone know of a Mac app that has a pho

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 23 Hours ago by: Rudolph Rhein

Assuming you're not lying and that you're telling the truth, where is the URL to that Linux distro non-jailbroken app on iOS you speak of please?

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 6 Days 23 Hours ago by: Siri Cruise

Yes, Apple is becoming that. It was so much fun on 10.1

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days ago by: David Brooks

FWIW, I'm running Linux Mint on my 24 inch iMac - all by itself!

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days ago by: Alan Browne

whoosh. Pro tip: when you see /s in a post it means: end-of-sarcasm.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days ago by: nospam

except it's only ~70% compatible, according to the developer. that's not good. in fact, it's worse than on ios. <https://andronix.app> There are infinite uses for Andronix. To keep it in understandable terms, you can almost do 70%

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 1 Hour ago by: Ant

.... I loved Fink during Mac OS X v10.2 days.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 1 Hour ago by: Rudolph Rhein

You don't need to get mad at the walled garden as Apple will be forced, someday, perhaps by the EU, to dismantle that walled garden you dislike. Almost all Linux distros freely run native on non-rooted Android nowadays. https://play.goo

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: Alan B

I remember some years ago using Fink but it only supports macOS versions up to Catalina, so is out of the question for the time being :( <https://www.finkproject.org>

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

VMWare supports VM's on Mx. I believe most 64 bit ARM Linux' should run fine - I'm not there yet (hope to avoid Linux on Mx actually). I assume Parallels are there too ...

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Yep, MacPorts also supports Apple Silicon. It's just not quite as popular as Homebrew.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Just aimed at the usual numb nuts. I too will be moving code to Mx later this year ...

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: Ed Norton

Seems like you have an admirer, Alan.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 5 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

OF COURSE NOT! HOW DARE YOU! APPLE IS A WALLED GARDEN! FUCK OFF AND DIE APPLE WALLED GARDEN VICTIMS! /s

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 7 Days 5 Hours ago by: Alan B

Plus MacPorts? <https://www.macports.org/index.php>

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 5 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

I've been running *nix software on Macs for decades, and personally I see no reason to boot into Linux just to run most popular *nix packages when I can run them natively without that overhead right in macOS. However, as others have sai

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 5 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Absolutely. And Homebrew, the most popular *nix package manager for macOS has had native Apple Silicon support since version 3.0.0 which was released in 2021: <https://brew.sh>

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 5 Hours ago by: nospam

dunno what you read, but virtualizing linux works *very* well, and there is work on booting it (not sure of the status of that).

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 5 Hours ago by: Alan B

You can create virtual machines from various ARM distros though using Parallels, VM Fusion, UTM, Liviable and possibly other such tools. Asahi are working on a distro which will run directly on Silicon Macs. <https://asahilinux.org/about

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 6 Hours ago by: Ed Norton

Good to know. Thanks, guys. I wondered because apparently you can't boot a Linux Distro or emulate one from what I have read.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 6 Hours ago by: Alan B

Yes. Posted this follow-up using slrn built using Xcode CLI tools.

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 6 Hours ago by: Chris Ridd

Of course.

Copy/Paste Strangeness on Ventura

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 7 Days 6 Hours ago by: Ed Norton

Using Screen Share or Remote Desktop I can "Get" the remote clip board and can see the "gotten" contents in the clipboard of both machines. But I can't paste the content into any app. "Paste" is just grayed out. I don't have any proble

Re: Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs (thread)

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 6 Hours ago by: nospam

of course. many of the common ones already have been.

Compiling Unix Apps to run on M1 Macs

uk.comp.sys.mac

Posted: 7 Days 6 Hours ago by: Ed Norton

Can you still do this?

Filteradjustment to get Arlen/Burnelli/Ragnussen/Newton

comp.mobile.android

Posted: 7 Days 6 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

https://up.picr.de/45368860my.png Error risk estimated to be under 2%.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 9 Days 9 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

It takes a "special" effort to get Finder to not restart immediately ...

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 9 Days 9 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

I'll definitely look into it. Indeed - pre-transfer of all my data to the new iMac (or Mac Mini or Studio ...), I'll probably spend a lot of time cleaning up my files. This could be a great tool to use for that exercise.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 9 Days 15 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

If it is necessary I use Force Quit because the Finder restarts immediately.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 9 Days 17 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

They do have a special 1-year license, and even with a subscription the latest version of the subscription continues to run even if you cancel the subscription.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 10 Days ago by: Alan Browne

Looks pretty powerful. I'm not a fan of rental ware, but when I get my new iMac I might try this.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 10 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jolly Roger

Last I checked, the most common reason for running without Finder was while using an alternative file browser such as Path Finder: <https://www.cocoatech.io>

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 10 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan

I'm not disagreeing with that.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 10 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan Browne

You can run Mac OS with Finder stopped. There's no great reason to do so. But you can. (At least you could back when I did it - Leopard?). They "relaunch" it so that people won't have to then figure out how to get it going again ...

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 1 Hour ago by: nospam

unless manually overridden by adding a quit menu item and later using that menu item to quit it. however, that's a really bad idea.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan

Correct, because macOS is (accurately) letting you know that it won't allow you to leave the Finder not running

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan Browne

I do use it with other apps - usually to access: Force Quit.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan Browne

In short, where for most apps where such accesses the sometimes useful "Force Quit" in Finder it's "Relaunch".

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 2 Hours ago by: nospam

it's not unique to finder relaunching. control-click, two-finger press and secondary-button click (aka right-click), are different ways to get a contextual menu, which in this case, adds the relaunch option. note that the primary and

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 2 Hours ago by: Alan

It's the same thing. The "context" click with a Mac can be achieved with: Right-click on a two(or more)-button mouse. Two-finger click on a trackpad (if it's been turned on) Control-click with a one-button mouse or with one finger on

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 2 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Didn't know that one. IAC the occasions that I have to relaunch finder seem rarer and rarer as the OS marches on. Really only do that to clear the Trash "something in there" icon when it is in fact empty.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 4 Hours ago by: nospam

control-option-click on finder dock icon is easier.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 4 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Three ways: 1) - hold down the option key - right click (two finger touch on trackpads) on Finder in the dock Relaunch will be the bottom of the popup list 2) CMD-option-ESC Select finder Hit Relaunch 3) in terminal killall Fin

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 6 Hours ago by: J Burns

I wanted to relaunch Finder but didn't see how to do it in Ventura. The last time I had trouble, I could still find a document by opening the Finder window, but Spotlight was blind to Documents. When I restarted, Spotlight said it was

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 21 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

That's just a bullshit and childish claim *you* are making in your ongoing *days-long* reactionary (triggered) troll after Apple simply released a new color of an existing product. And since it's bullshit and childish, it deserves no seri

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 22 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

The subject is why is something completely meaningless such as the color of an iPhone suddenly wanted and needed, when you iKooks constantly claim that meaningful items (e.g., sd card portability) is not wanted nor needed. With respec

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 6 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

That's true too. In most of these cases it is a hardware issue.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 6 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

I keyed on what he wrote: "On three occasions, Spotlight has been unable to find anything in Documents. On one of those occasions, the Finder window for documents wouldn't open. On those occasions, restarting restored operation." So b

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 6 Hours ago by: nospam

<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208862> The Apple T2 Security Chip is Apple's second-generation, custom silicon for Mac. The T2 chip delivers capabilities to your Mac, such as encrypted storage and secure boot capabilities, enha

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 7 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

Hä? Sorry? Are you sure you understand the OPs problem?

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 7 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

WTF is T2? The OS is always reinstallable.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 7 Hours ago by: johnson

This is only applicable to Intel Macs without T2

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 9 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Last resort. There are other steps to take. See my other post.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 9 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

First off, https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/mac-help/mchlp2962/mac and then possibly: Re-build the spotlight index might help: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201716

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 16 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

What are you trying to implicate? That you know better than anybody else? You are extremely childish and trollish. Apple is not the Red Cross but only the manufacturer of the best hard- and software in the smartphone-domain. Everything

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 17 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

+1 Radical but will most probably solve the issue if the hardware is still ok. What could be tested beforehand: A new user-account on the current system.

Re: Trouble with Finder under Ventura (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 18 Hours ago by: gtr

Generic: Reinstall the OS.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

It's hilarious how butthurt you trolls are about the most trivial things... : D

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: Alan

I agree that consumer products have functional and aesthetic requirements and that they are on completely different scales of expenditure to deliver.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days ago by: Chris Schram

You must agree with nospam that yellow is most definitely needed & wanted.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days ago by: Hank Rogers

That's when hew stuff is introduced. Mostly stuff that's not needed and nobody wants.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days ago by: Alan Browne

There's an ugly house around the corner from here about 45 years old. Recent renovations. Sign went up in mid Feb and it sold in 2 weeks. (No yellow there, however). Saw a surveyor there yesterday. Normally you update the "Localizati

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days ago by: nospam

i was surprised when he told me that. we were standing in front of a newly built yellow house, which to me is ugly as fuck and you couldn't pay me to live in it, but indeed, it did sell in a few days after going on the market.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days ago by: Jolly Roger

Yes, in order to childishly troll (as you often do here). Owning Apple products and trolling aren't necessarily mutually exclusive - though that's clearly the false implication you're trying to make. ; ) You trolls call anyone who dares

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan Browne

I don't know about "there" but "here" most house sales occur in the early to mid spring. So yellow might be a happy trigger spring colour that helps move the obscene McMansion.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: nospam

a friend of mine buys older houses, knocks them down and builds a giant monstrosity in its place. he said yellow houses sell the fastest.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan Browne

Apple's first responsibility: the company. Second: the shareholders. Apple's approach to these responsibilities has been to know their customers very well. Out of this base of marketing prowess came this decision as it will delight so

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan Browne

You're converting this one marketing effort as applying to "all" iPhone buyers. The iPhone owners I know are mainly engineers, sales/marketing, a couple doctors, my business lawyer, many of my clients, etc. and so on. A friend who in

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: badgolferman

I am an iPhone user, in fact I carry two, my wife and child each have one, and we have a set of AirPod Pros and an iPad. We had an iPod at one time. I started the comment about yellow iPhones. The difference between myself and the “Ap

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan

No it's not! It's a clear indication that consumers like to make stylistic choices AS WELL as functional ones.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jolly Roger

That's an unfounded claim, and you know it. Color is just one of many factors people consider when choosing a smartphone. You guys are the laziest trolls on the planet. Either that, or you really are *this* stupid. Your entire troll is

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: David E. Ross

Nobody is saying that the color won't work to increase iPhone 14 sales. What they're saying is buying a smart phone based only on the color is a clear indication of the type of consumer that the iPhone most appeals to. I'm not sure why

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan

Everyone knows that real "1337" users only buy phones made from unfinished aluminum. ;-)

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: Michael

I think they're just unhappy they can't get their pixel in a good color.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan Browne

Not that much. But given that Apple is a business[1] they do have a duty to the company and even shareholders to get more out of the product. They came up with this (I would have thought a few more colours ... but...). If it increa

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

....meanwhile these same trolls just love to loudly proclaim _they_ are the adults... ; )

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

"Trolls just wanna have fun, y'all! Anyone who doesn't like it is 'backwards'! #IAmVerySmart!"

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Only in your bizarro Troll World. It absolutely is. And they are *so* triggered that they go out of their way to come to Apple newsgroups and troll about it *for literal days*. "I know you are, but what am I?" is about as childish an

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 2 Hours ago by: Alan

Are you really as stupid as you write? You think Apple spent "probably hundreds of millions"...

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 2 Hours ago by: nospam

it's mid-cycle. go learn what that means.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: David E. Ross

You have it backward because they're having fun with Apple investing probably hundreds of millions of dollars for no added capabilities. Apple should have spent those millions giving you something useful instead. If Apple couldn't thin

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: Alan

Do you carry matches? Tinder and flint? You never know: you MIGHT need one if your flashlight failes. (BTW, did you notice that being able to use your iPhone as a flashlight is something Apple does include?) But if few people are ac

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: Alan

No "Apple lover" here started a single thread about the colour of Apple's products. I doubt you can find a single one if you look back over an entire decade.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

ROFL - all we're doing is rebutting the silliness of this obsession over the yellow iPhone. It's the Apple haters who brought it up.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 4 Hours ago by: David E. Ross

That's backwards. It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow. It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them to ridicule.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 4 Hours ago by: mike

I don't know the answer but I have two answers which seem reasonable. The first is that it's better not to have to use the inexpensive $20 flashlight than it is to not ever have the flashlight when you need it. The second is that for $

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 8 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

It truly is. Imagine what a shitty life someone must have to become upset about a company releasing a trivial update to a product line that you are compelled to spend literal days trolling the company's forums making juvenile jokes about

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 9 Hours ago by: nospam

it's actually very low. adding a feature that few people use only to add to a checklist is stupid. plus of those who do use cards, they almost always use only one card that they never remove (and can't because it's adopted). worse, sin

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 9 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Distortion of what he said, which was (essentially): Apple decide what they believe there is a market for (or that they can create) and go for it. Further, of course, they advertise that. As they should. It's called "running a busine

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 9 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

What percentage of people with Android phones that have SD cards actually use that feature? Is this even an issue? I hate FM - sound quality may be way above AM, but it's still audio constrained. Yeah, technology from the 19th cent

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

This has nothing to do with USB-C. God you are desperate. LOL... : D

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 22 Hours ago by: nospam

nobody said that, liar.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 23 Hours ago by: Nil

The whole needs and wants thing is a farce perpetrated by nospam who says what you need and what you want is bright colors but not anything useful.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 23 Hours ago by: mike

You are completely right that nobody needs USB-C nor does anyone want USB-C because what they really need is lightning & that's what they really want. Same with those cumbersome sd cards which nobody needs and nobody wants. Same with th

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 23 Hours ago by: Alan

You're discovering the difference between aesthetics and utility choices in consumer products. Congratulations!

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 23 Hours ago by: mike

In other words that yellow iPhone is not only needed but also it's wanted. It's that pesky crazy hardware like sd cards which nobody needs nor wants.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 23 Hours ago by: Alan

Sneering is such a great pose.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 23 Hours ago by: dan

On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:34:36 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote: Whenever an iPhone has flagging sales, Apple releases a new bold color. Only Apple knows why that's a very successful iPhone sales boost strategy. It's nothing more than coa

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days ago by: Alan Browne

He was running out of tangents ...

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by: nospam

because that's how i spell it. what's odd is you only noticed it now.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan

It seems to me that you spell it correctly. :-)

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan

You seemed to be confused by whole concepts in the area of consumer preferences and market research and functional versus asthetic preferences.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan

And this is the least bit important... ...how?

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 2 Hours ago by: badgolferman

I thought you had just misspelled it once, but this time you misspelled it many times...

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 2 Hours ago by: Wilf

Other countries exist and they sell iPhones there :)

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 3 Hours ago by: nospam

that's the first you've noticed that?

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Irrelevant. You really have nothing constructive to add to the conversation, do you? You completely ignore any reasonable discussion about this. You're just here to troll.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 3 Hours ago by: badgolferman

“colour” ? I thought you were in America. We don’t spell it that way. Where are you anyway?

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 3 Hours ago by: nospam

neither. they choose colours for various products based on all sorts of factors. some colours end up being more popular than others, which feeds back into what colours they might introduce in the future. the imac is available in yello

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 4 Hours ago by: badgolferman

Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 4 Hours ago by: nospam

that depends on the product, but generally mid-cycle. apple has been doing that for several years. it's not a ploy. there is a *huge* sales spike in the holiday quarter (although this past year, that was supply-constrained). the spr

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 4 Hours ago by: nospam

it's not just apple either. every company does that, to varying degrees of success. to not focus on what potential customers want so is foolish.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 4 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

I don't recall specifically, but it seems in the past they have offered a mid term color upgrade of more than 1 colour on various products. Not something I get very worked up about as it is deep in my "so what?" zone. Let them scoff

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

It's also not very interesting or relevant. So what? Many companies release products with new colors or options mid cycle. This is nothing new - yet because Apple did it this one time, you and your little weak trollboi cohort decided t

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

You're the one who whooshed, trollboi. There is *no* mention of nospam in the post of yours to which I replied - and that's why you have deleted quoted material from your latest post, as if you think that doing so will hide this fact. It

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 6 Hours ago by: Nic

You whooshed completely that the excuse nospam uses has nothing to do with the color on the phone but what's *inside* the phone that really matters. You and nospam can't see what's *inside* the iPhone. All either one of you can see is o

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 6 Hours ago by: badgolferman

How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not a trick question. I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is because Ap

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

"OnLy ReLiGiOuS fAnAtIcS hAvE cOlOr PrEfErEnCeS, gUyS! #IAmVerySmart"

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been said is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want. And that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't sell well with their own customers th

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 7 Hours ago by: nospam

nobody ever said that, liar.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 7 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Context. Indeed Apple make their design and marketing choices, and push them. That is, hmm let me look it up .... oh, yeah, got it: Their job. The degree to which this is "informed" by studying the market, tastes, trends, desires, h

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 7 Hours ago by: Wilf

Personally, I think it's reasonable for a manufacturer to decide on colours, hopefully based on known customer likes and dislikes. But if you want an iPhone (or any other phone) which is pink with purple and green dots, say, then just

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 7 Hours ago by: RJH

Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple alone decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not the customer.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 8 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

People have preferences for colour whether or not it's "needed".

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 8 Hours ago by: Nic

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed. It's about religious fanatics on only Apple ng's who act the way they do.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 8 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

He's sealioning, not asking genuine questions. That would be cool.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 13 Days 10 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Could be cool. Hmm, put it in a pressure chamber at a couple bar with high O2 and get the 'look' quicker?

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 13 Days 10 Hours ago by: fos

the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason. i'd prefer a bare metal iPhone made from copper instead of powder coated aluminum. it would tarnish on

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 13 Days 21 Hours ago by: Alan

I know you're not familiar with this term: "false dichotomy".

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 13 Days 22 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

What's more important is the salient observation you haven't yet claimed that the *NEW! _yellow_ iPhone* is "not needed" and "not wanted", nospam. Do you know why you think yellow iPhones are desperately needed & wanted? I do. HINT: Yo

Trouble with Finder under Ventura

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 13 Days 23 Hours ago by: J Burns

After I upgraded to Ventura, I began having Finder problems. Favorites would disappear from Finder sidebars. (That has happened before Ventura, but the following are new to me.) I'm likely to keep several Finder windows open, and sometim

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 14 Days ago by: Alan

As do almost all other companies. Consumers like colour choices, Arelen.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: nospam

i never said that. in fact i said the *opposite*. the rest of your lies deleted.

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jolly Roger

24/7 : )

Re: Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Andy Burnelli

Apple knows better than anyone what its customer base cares about. Hence... *It's a valid question of why this yellow color is both needed & wanted.* In fact, the answer to the question revealingly points directly to... *What kin

Getting itchy. M3 iMac this summer?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 14 Days 2 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Just saw an "Apple Rumours" piece in The Verge dated last week. https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/5/23625972/apple-new-imac-launch-m3-chip Which indicates a possible M3 iMac in June(ish). Will still be 24" per the article. I can live wit

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 14 Days 2 Hours ago by: Alan

"Tedious" is the word that springs to mind for me.

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 14 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

It really isn't. Mostly insecurity. Books could be written about your psychological issues - yes, BOOKS (plural)! Clearly. It's unfortunate, but only you are in control over your feefees. Some do, some don't - like any other color.

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE facts about Apple (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 14 Days 6 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

Hi Jolly Roger, This *YELLOW!!!!* is actually very important to understand you iKooks. I study you because you're rather interesting to me (how your mind works). What matters to me is _why_ you're so ashamed & fearful of what Apple di

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 5 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Ah - not so bad then. We'll see how Proton reply.

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

The issues I mentioned only pertained to installing a couple specific Bridge updates, so they wouldn't be a problem if you stuck with a single version.

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 6 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

I did notice that - hadn't given it much thought, but yes such would be very useful for some site accesses, leaving comments and so on. OTOH, I'm a "freeloading" Proton user so far - so not sure if that service will be available to me.

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 6 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Unfortunately the current Bridge v. available isn't compatible with the current v. of Mac OS on this iMac. I've sent a message to them to see if there is an older v. of Bridge that I can install. With the issues you point out above,

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

I forgot to mention that with some Proton packages, you get SimpleLogin for free: <https://simplelogin.io> SimpleLogin is integrated with Proton, and gives you the ability to create anonymous email aliases on the fly. In other words you

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 7 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

No. Instead, you use Proton Bridge with your favorite desktop mil client: <https://proton.me/mail/bridge>

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 7 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Yep. I've been using it for a while now. Bridge has been updated regularly, and there were some hiccups with a couple updates last year that required you to delete, add, and reconfigure accounts in Bridge due to errors stemming from some

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 9 Hours ago by: Peter Moylan

Why not just set the x-platform protonmail iOS app to be the default MUA? https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id979659905 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.protonmail.android Do they not have a similar program for the

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 9 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

I use the Protonmail-App which ensures the encryption. https://proton.me/support/ios-iphone

Re: Proton Mail via Apple Mai? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 9 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Correction: using the ProtonMail app from the app store.

Proton Mail via Apple Mai?

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 15 Days 10 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Just found that Proton mail can be accessed via Mac's Apple Mail app with the use of a "bridge" from Proton. Has anyone tried this? iOS: Likewise Proton mail can be accessed via an iPhone - but only via a web browser - this sucks (I do

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 16 Days 18 Hours ago by: Joanna mcarthur

hi I'm horny!!!1

Re: This old Mac: PRAM reset redux (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 16 Days 21 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Interesting.

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE facts about Apple (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 16 Days 22 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

Hi badgolferman, Clearly, nospam is not a normal person, as you're well aware I'm sure. *He would stab his own mother in the back* if he felt like it. He'll send innocent people on fruitless wild-goose chases, out of not ignorance, b

This old Mac: PRAM reset redux

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 16 Days 23 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Lately my iMac's (late 2012 i7 quad-core HT) fan would fire off under moderate load. Seemed to me to be over the top. I planned to take it apart and clean out dust which I believed might be the culprit. Taking apart the iMac is not a

Re: newsgroup membership

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days ago by: Alan Browne

Why soil perfectly good gloves. I understand: dirt, mud, grease, sand and cow and horse manure - all good - but not "that".

Re: newsgroup membership

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jolly Roger

Nah, those are generally soft and lightweight, with no knuckle and finger protection. Go with beemer gloves instead, and aim for the nose and eyes. ; )

Re: newsgroup membership

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 1 Hour ago by: Alan

Not bimmer gloves? ;-)

Re: newsgroup membership

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Nothing a solid pair of beemer gloves can't solve. As a bonus, a good slap with them would provide a prolonged effect. ; )

Re: newsgroup membership

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 6 Hours ago by: Alan

Fair point. ;-)

Re: newsgroup membership

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 6 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

People don't want to have to wash their hands that much.

Re: newsgroup membership

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 6 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

He's a little coward hiding behind his keyboard.

Re: newsgroup membership

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 6 Hours ago by: Alan

If you spoke to people in person as you write to and about them in here, you'd get bitch-slapped a dozen times a day.

Re: newsgroup membership

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 7 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

Hi badgolferman, A conversation with you is different than one with the child-like iKooks. I agree nospam "can" help "if he wanted to", where you should note that I agree with any rationally logical viewpoint (like all normal adults sh

Re: nospam I want to know what apps you've written

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 22 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

You _hate_ that everyone knows you fabricated that you are a developer. The fact is I never said I was a developer, and, in fact, I said quite the opposite which was that I started with "hello.world.apk" and after about a dozen apps,

Re: nospam I want to know what apps you've written

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 17 Days 22 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

Look nospam, I get it you lied about coding as it's clear you've never written even a single app in your entire life. You fabricated it. But I wrote more than a dozen tutorials, every single step, every single line of code, and I PUBLIS

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE facts about Apple (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: Andy Burnelli

Here's another tangential example of what makes an iKook so ignorant. *How do we show the display variable refresh rate in real time on iOS screens?* <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/QvbWQQNKUv0> Alan Browne wrote

Re: Google Chrome takes 6 GB of my hard disk (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 18 Days 17 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Try using DaisyDisk or GrandPerspective instead.

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE facts about Apple (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 18 Days 18 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

Regarding... *Apple announcement today - new yellow color option for iPhone 14 - with matching $49 case <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/Fhyivd8Cgh8> sms wrote: For the adults on this newsgroup, and for the per

Re: Google Chrome takes 6 GB of my hard disk (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 18 Days 21 Hours ago by: Yogi Arif Widodo

i have same issue in my clean my mac , its show 9GB and supporting file is 6GB size . dunno how to clear ...

Re: hypothetical situation

comp.mobile.ipad

Posted: 20 Days 12 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

(my responses usually follow points raised): Put alan brown in the killfile & you won't have to see his brown's absurd statements nor his sig which is indicative of his character is like trumps.

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE facts about Apple (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 21 Days 8 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

Alan Browne wrote: For _adults_ on this ng (admittedly, only a handful), I'm providing a free psychological & behavioral analysis of Alan Browne's stated convictions... I kindly & generously place these assessments in the permanent r

Re: hypothetical situation

comp.mobile.ipad

Posted: 21 Days 8 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

For _adults_ on this ng (admittedly, only a handful), I'm providing a free psychological & behavioral analysis of Alan Browne's stated convictions... I kindly & generously place these assessments in the permanent record. Being intelli

Re: Replacement for iData (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 22 Days 5 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

I don't know much (anything) about the product, but it's clear that unless someone takes over, it is sunsetting quick. Not sure how much of a user base it has.

Re: Replacement for iData (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 22 Days 5 Hours ago by: Addictive

It is still supported, look here: https://www.raccoonbend.com/iDataPro5/index.html

Re: Replacement for iData (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 22 Days 22 Hours ago by: Fishrrman

iData Pro still seems to be getting updates: https://www.raccoonbend.com/iDataPro5/index.html It still works fine for me on a 2018 Mini and 2021 MacBook Pro 14"...

Re: Replacement for iData (thread)

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 23 Days ago by: Jolly Roger

What sort of data are you currently storing in iData?

Replacement for iData

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 23 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mel C

I want a free form data base program to replace my iData program that is no longer being supported. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 24 Days 2 Hours ago by: Hank Rogers

I have an iphone, but it's only a lowly SE 2020, so probably don't count for those with their heads deeply up apples asshole. It's a good little phone, but it is not perfect. I'd say it fills about 90% of my needs. Please continue, Jo

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 24 Days 22 Hours ago by: rdb

Agree with you that Hank trolls the group and doesn't even own an iPhone.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 24 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jolly Roger

Everyone can be an asshole at times - some more than others. Only one of these is actively here just to troll and disrupt the group though.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 24 Days 23 Hours ago by: Hank Rogers

I'd say you are both adult assholes. Go away. Get a room in a cheap hotel, and battle away.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 24 Days 23 Hours ago by: Hank Rogers

I don't know if either are liars, or adults. I do know that BOTH of you guys are complete assholes, and provide nothing useful to common iphone users. You are too busy preening your feathers, strutting, and fighting. One of you has bo

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 25 Days ago by: nospam

many people have done that you don't. therefore, by your own metric, you must not be an adult.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019 (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 25 Days ago by: Andy Burnelli

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 25 Days 10 Hours ago by: Alan Browne

Everyone who replies to it is giving it "robust psychological support".

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 25 Days 14 Hours ago by: Joerg Lorenz

To all current and future researchers: Andy Burnelli needs urgently robust psychological support. Immediately but that is self-explaining.

Re: Adult observation iKooks are what they are - because - they HATE facts about Apple (thread)

comp.sys.mac.advocacy

Posted: 25 Days 17 Hours ago by: Andy Burnelli

This thread is designed to provide evidence, for future researchers and for the permanent record, how _different_ from normal people the iKooks are. Today was a _classic_ example, where I'll let one iKook (in this case, Hemidactylus) ex

stats 2023 FEb

comp.sys.mac.system

Posted: 26 Days 16 Hours ago by: The Doctor

Group : comp.sys.mac.system Statistics : from 2/1/2023 to 2/28/2023 ***** Users with most messages ***** num| Name | Nb Msg | size | or. | % ----|-------------------------|--------|--------|-----|------------------|

Re: Is it safe to use a third party power charger for 13" 2020 A2251 MWP62LL/A MacBook Pro? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.portables

Posted: 26 Days 18 Hours ago by: Ant

Cute, but too complex and annoying for travels.

Re: Is it safe to use a third party power charger for 13" 2020 A2251 MWP62LL/A MacBook Pro? (thread)

comp.sys.mac.portables

Posted: 27 Days 4 Hours ago by: nospam

get this one :) <https://www.macrumors.com/2023/02/28/gravastar-alpha65-charger/>

Re: Anker (was Re: Is it safe to use a third party power charger for 13" 2020 A2251 MWP62LL/A MacBook Pro?) (thread)

comp.sys.mac.portables

Posted: 1 Month 1 Day ago by: nospam

get a pack of adapters.

Re: Anker (was Re: Is it safe to use a third party power charger for 13" 2020 A2251 MWP62LL/A MacBook Pro?) (thread)

comp.sys.mac.portables

Posted: 1 Month 1 Day ago by: Ant

But those don't have different power outlet connectors as shown in https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51Eoc8iNIzL._AC_SL1500_.jpg from https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Anker-PowerPort-MacBook-Samsung/dp/B0885SPJDZ.

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