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Re: innfeed not starting on new inn2 installation on Debian bullseye (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 5 Hours 22 Minutes ago by: yamo'

Hi, Adam Lewenberg a tapoté le 23/05/2022 06:12: see man inn.conf xrefslave Whether to act as the slave of another server. If set to true a client cannot post without xref, to be the new server for nnrpd you have to set it

innfeed not starting on new inn2 installation on Debian bullseye (2.6.4)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 10 Hours 26 Minutes ago by: Adam Lewenberg

post failed 437 Xref: header required in xrefslave mode On the buster server I see these inn2-related processes running: news 1268 1 0 May09 ? 00:13:45 /usr/lib/news/bin/innd news 1269 1 0 May09 ? 00:00

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 17 Hours 4 Minutes ago by: Julien_ÉLIE

Hi Retro Guy, This behaviour is worth documenting in incoming.conf; I'll add a sentence for the "password" keyword saying that innd will accept any username provided by the remote peer (mandatory in the authentication protocol) as long

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 17 Hours 44 Minutes ago by: Retro Guy

Thank you for the info and confirmation. It works for me also, but I just never understood if I was using it correctly due to USER only being available on one end.

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 1 Day ago by: Julien_ÉLIE

Hi Matija, [...] Yes, I confirm AUTHINFO works fine in both innfeed and innd. I thoroughly tested it when implementing NNTP v2. The reason behind that behaviour is historical. Prior to INN 2.6.0, released in 2015, a remote peer could

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 1 Day 19 Hours ago by: Miner

i2pd - a full-featured C++ implementation of the I2P router

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 1 Day 23 Hours ago by: Russ Allbery

INN does not. Client certificate authentication is in general kind of a pain in the ass and is very rarely implemented by clients (and when it is, the UI is normally horrible, such as in web browsers), so there was never enough demand

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 2 Days 2 Hours ago by: Matija Nalis

Hopefully someone who uses that should try changing password on only one side and see if the authentication fails (or there might be a bug - e.g. option is ignored and all access is always enabled) Sure - as are *all* username/password

INN 2.x FAQ

news.software.nntp

Posted: 2 Days 7 Hours ago by: Russ Allbery

Last-modified: 2022-04-07 Posted-by: postfaq 1.17 (Perl 5.28.1) Archive-name: usenet/software/inn2-faq URL: https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html Posting-frequency: monthly This FAQ is intended to answer frequently asked questions co

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 2 Days 8 Hours ago by: Retro Guy

There are two features in I2P that help with this. One is that you can tie a client key (generated by the client) to a server tunnel. You can whitelist key(s) for this tunnel, and only allow specific clients to connect. Also, if you ru

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 2 Days 9 Hours ago by: Grant Taylor

Would you please elaborate on what I2P does that's different? I know /of/ I2P, but very little about it. Most of that is that the client is written in Java, which is a bad thing IMHO. I don't know. That's probably a question for tho

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 2 Days 10 Hours ago by: Retro Guy

Yes, that's true. I2P makes it much easier. While I'm not sure if using or understanding it correctly, I use a 'password' in innfeed and incoming.conf. While it seems to work ok, I'm not sure why you can set a username in innfeed, but

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 2 Days 14 Hours ago by: Grant Taylor

My concern about peering over Tor is the absence of sending system identification. It is typical for peering privileges to be associated with the source IP. So, based on the very nature of Tor -- as I understand it -- anyone that kno

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 3 Days 7 Hours ago by: Retro Guy

Anytime. While I do peer with several peers over i2p, I only peer between two of my own servers with tor, but it works fine. Feel free to just try running the script and pointing it to: zkcvkb5xprurx5dvpanhyivneuzah6k6xayxgxd4h2ekklx

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 3 Days 19 Hours ago by: Jason Evans

Hi Retro Guy, Thanks for the script, I will look into this. I'll first try to establish a connection between two VMs and then I may come back to you about peering if everything works. I wonder if creating a system service (e.g. syste

Re: missing nnrp.access file (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 3 Days 23 Hours ago by: Russ Allbery

Do you mean nnrp.access? It was replaced with readers.conf in INN 2.3.0. There's a program called nnrp.access2readers.conf in INN's contrib directory that will try to convert the old format to the new format.

missing nnrp.access file

news.software.nntp

Posted: 4 Days 2 Hours ago by: seth hurst

Hello I was installing inn on a linode server and I'm missing the nnrpd.access file on a new inn install. Ware would this file get placed on a fresh install? Using inn2.6.

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 5 Days 5 Hours ago by: Retro Guy

I have done this and it works fine. My previous partner in this project (rocksolid), trw, wrote a script to handle peering over tor and it works well. I'll post the script below. If you want to test, I'll be happy to test with you. Aga

Re: Relay : List of headers that should appear only once in an (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 5 Days 19 Hours ago by: Julien_ÉLIE

Bonsoir Franck, Yes, that's right. This is enforced at injection time. Ah, OK. I thought you were looking for header fields that were supposed to be unique (as you answered "Checked to be unique" in previous discussions). If you ar

Re: Usenet peering over Tor (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 6 Days ago by: Miner

Peering over Tor require additional tricks. Peering over I2P works great (without tricks).

Usenet peering over Tor

news.software.nntp

Posted: 6 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jason Evans

Hi all, First of all, I know that there have been some usenet servers that offer read- only access to groups via a Tor onion service and that's not what I'm writing about today. I would like to know if anyone here has been experimenting

Re: Relay : List of headers that should appear only once in an (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 6 Days 9 Hours ago by: Franck

Hi Julien, Since this table is part of the "nnrp.c" code, I assume that it is only used for injection (POST) not for transit (IHAVE)? No? I just want to offer the possibility (configurable) of rejecting articles received from a feed wi

Re: Relay : List of headers that should appear only once in an (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 6 Days 19 Hours ago by: Julien_ÉLIE

Hi Franck and Russ, Incidentally, I see that I once wrote at the end of the header table: /* The Comments and Original-Sender header fields can appear more than once * in the headers of an article. Consequently, we MUST NOT put th

Re: Relay : List of headers that should appear only once in an (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 6 Days 22 Hours ago by: Franck

Hi Russ, Thank you for the reply, I have taken into account almost all of your remarks concerning the headers. Of course. Considered but not ranked #1 on my todo-list. Sold. I'll use "netnews" headers (https://www.iana.org/assignm

Re: Relay : List of headers that should appear only once in an article? (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 7 Days 18 Hours ago by: Russ Allbery

Oh, sorry, yes, I knew I forgot something. Those should go into the "readers are going to have a hard time understanding the message" category of rejecting duplicates. Reply-To is probably in the From and Subject territory. None of

Re: Relay : List of headers that should appear only once in an (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 7 Days 19 Hours ago by: Franck

Hi Russ, Thanks for your explicit reply. For the moment, I think to be strict with 5536. Checked to be unique. Checked to be unique. Checked to be unique. What about : - From - Subject - Archived-At - Bcc - Cc - Keywords - Rep

Re: Relay : List of headers that should appear only once in an article? (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 7 Days 22 Hours ago by: Russ Allbery

It is to some degree up to you. Relaying agents are allowed to be strict about RFC 5536 compliance, or they're allowed to relay messages that don't follow the standard but can still be processed. I think it's generally better for Usen

Re: Relay : List of headers that should appear only once in an (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 8 Days 1 Hour ago by: Henning Hucke

Hey Franck, you (already?) know about RFCs (https://www.rfc-editor.org/) 5536 and possibly 3977? Best regards, Henning

Relay : List of headers that should appear only once in an article?

news.software.nntp

Posted: 8 Days 7 Hours ago by: Franck

Hello, When INJECTING an article, some headers should not appear and others should appear only once. I do the checks in a way similar to INN (nnrp/post.c) but with some additions, such as the format expected by the header value. When R

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 17 Days 8 Hours ago by: Franck

Thanks for the explanations. :-)

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 17 Days 12 Hours ago by: Franck

Bonjour Julien, The only software with a graphical interface was Codosoft NNTPd, which I have continued to develop for my own needs but that I cannot release. Here, it is a completely different project that does not use any lines of co

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 17 Days 18 Hours ago by: Julien_ÉLIE

Bonjour Franck, Yes, that is indeed the new software I was looking for. I somehow thought it was similar to the first one and already had a graphical interface, but I was wrong. Thanks for all the effort you put into it! I hope it

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 18 Days 8 Hours ago by: Franck

Salut Julien, As announced several years ago, I sold the sources of my old project and I no longer have the right to use them. I have no contact with the buyer, I don't think he did anything with it and I don't think the software is sti

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 18 Days 8 Hours ago by: yamo'

Thanks I will try to install it on a Windows boot that did not start for a while and note it into a web page... <https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install>

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 18 Days 22 Hours ago by: Russ Allbery

INN at one point built on cygwin, but I'm not sure it makes much sense to try to resurrect that support (which has almost certainly bitrotted) now that Windows Subsystem for Linux exists. cygwin is a fairly weird environment that is ha

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 20 Days 6 Hours ago by: yamo'

Yes, it will be a very good thing! Or making a documentation to run INN2 on cygwin.

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 20 Days 20 Hours ago by: Julien_ÉLIE

Bonsoir Franck, Glad to hear that behaviour is reasonable :) Incidentally, is your news server available for download on the Internet? I looked for it a few months ago but did not manage to find it. I ask because I believe a few people

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 20 Days 20 Hours ago by: Julien_ÉLIE

Hi Russ, Indeed, that's not currently implemented. Nonetheless, a specific check in an nnrpd filter hook is easy to add by the news admin if he wants that behaviour :-)

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 20 Days 20 Hours ago by: Julien_ÉLIE

Bonjour Franck, Exactly. I've set "laxmid" on my news server (trigofacile). It is just for testing purposes. I bet mixmin has kept the default ("no-laxmid"). There's no "right" behaviour. You can naturally implement whatever you

XanaNews Statistic for news.software.nntp. 5/1/2022 12:19:35 PM

news.software.nntp

Posted: 21 Days 20 Hours ago by: The Doctor

XanaNews Statistic for news.software.nntp. 5/1/2022 12:19:35 PM From article 26168 (4/1/2022 1:10:46 AM) to article 26215 (4/30/2022 5:30:05 PM) Number of threads ................... 10 Number of articles .................. 49 Average

stats 2022-04

news.software.nntp

Posted: 21 Days 20 Hours ago by: The Doctor

Group : news.software.nntp Statistics : from 4/1/2022 to 4/30/2022 ***** Users with most messages ***** num| Name | Nb Msg | size | or. | % ----|--------------------|--------|--------|-----|------------------| 1 | Nigel

Re: Finding the Message-ID from a Dejanews Google Search Archivew result (thread)

alt.free.newsservers

Posted: 22 Days 15 Hours ago by: wasbit

<bje@ripco.com> wrote in message news:t4jcnu$4ar$1@remote6hme0.ripco.com... I don't know the name of the newsgroup any more than I know what the secret squirrel game is. It's a general question for when I find articles on a google search

Re: Finding the Message-ID from a Dejanews Google Search Archivew result (thread)

news.admin.peering

Posted: 23 Days 1 Hour ago by: bje

Why don't you quit playing Secret Squirrel and tell us the name of the newsgroup and approximate time frame. Deja is gone, it's not coming back and google sanitized everything where finding what you seek is just not going to happen. De

Re: Finding the Message-ID from a Dejanews Google Search Archivew result (thread)

news.admin.peering

Posted: 23 Days 2 Hours ago by: Frank Slootweg

It's of course your choice, but it isn't too hard to create a fake Google Account which shouldn't be traceable to you. Last time I did that - just as a proof of concept -, I was Santa Claus.

Re: Finding the Message-ID from a Dejanews Google Search Archivew result (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 23 Days 4 Hours ago by: Thomas Hochstein

You can't anymore because of that: -thh

Re: client like slrn but more modern? (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: meff

slrn is pretty configurable and you can pretty much set any key to mean anything. It has its esoteric Slang which lets you extend slrn a lot. As far as writing posts or follow-ups, as others have said, $EDITOR is all you need set. My de

Re: Finding the Message-ID from a Dejanews Google Search Archivew (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 24 Days 10 Hours ago by: Jason Evans

It depends on how old the article is. Some Usenet providers go back to ~2003 and archive.org goes from the 80s's-90's to around 2003. If you know the sender, the group, and something like the subject line, you may be able to find the

Finding the Message-ID from a Dejanews Google Search Archivew result

news.admin.peering

Posted: 24 Days 19 Hours ago by: wasbit

How can I find the message id of a very old article which has long ago expired in my news feed & on the news server but which I can find on a google search? Google's dejanews no longer allows the original message (with headers) to be viewe

Re: client like slrn but more modern? (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 24 Days 19 Hours ago by: Henning Hucke

You can also redefine a lot of key combinations. I'm not shure that you can exactly copy key combinations which are semantically the same as with vim but you can at least redefine them as shurely also come as close to vim as possible. W

Re: client like slrn but more modern? (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 24 Days 20 Hours ago by: rek2 hispagatos

Sorry I did not explain my self, SRLN does use vim as the editor but to navigate arround it does not use VIM keys Colors: you can change some colors but there is no background transparency as far as I can tell.

Re: client like slrn but more modern? (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 7 Hours ago by: Henning Hucke

Hi nameless poster, slrn uses colors - at least my one does. If yours doesn't use color then RTFD (read the fucking documentation) and configure your prefered color bay yourself. Same applies to the used key settings. Best regards

Re: client like slrn but more modern? (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 8 Hours ago by: Nigel Reed

You could always use tin which does use vim as the editor, if that's your default editor of course.

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 9 Hours ago by: Franck

Hi Russ, Thanks! It reply perfectly to my initial question and explain the different replies. I will change my implementation of "laxmid" to act in the same way as INN. Again, thanks a lot.

client like slrn but more modern?

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 12 Hours ago by: rek2 hispagatos

Hello I been using slrn I try to use everything on TUI/CLI tools and slrn is ok, but lacks a lot of features I will like, as in color theme and VIM keys by default. Any software out there with colors/vim keys for the terminal/tui?

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 16 Hours ago by: Russ Allbery

No, mixmin will reject the article. The setting controls both whether articles with such malformed message IDs can be posted and whether they're accepted from peers. If you're asking if there's a way to configure INN to accept such art

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 16 Hours ago by: Franck

Hi Russ, I do not have an INN server configured for myself but I tried on different servers running 2.7.0. I try to understand how it works because I implemented it in my own server but with a different approach (and perhalps I'm wron

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 18 Hours ago by: Russ Allbery

The first argument to ARTICLE is verified with: mid = (ac > 1 && IsValidMessageID(av[1], true, laxmid)); so it should take the laxmid setting into account. Are you sure that your instance of INN is configured with lax message

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 19 Hours ago by: Franck

Hi Russ, I have no trouble with a specific article in circulation but I'm surprised by the replies of INN. If I try to find an article with the laxmid format (double dot or double arobase) : ARTICLE <double..dot@test.com> or ARTICL

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 20 Hours ago by: Russ Allbery

Could you give a specific example of a message ID that you're having trouble with? All of the calls to IsValidMessageID that I see in nnrpd use the laxmid setting, so I think I need more details to understand the problem.

Re: INN: syntaxchecks (thread)

news.software.nntp

Posted: 25 Days 21 Hours ago by: Franck

Hello, I haven't forgotten the best reminder Julien has given me in the past and witch seems to reply to my initial post : RFC 5537: 3.1. General Principles There are two important principles that news implementors and admi

INN: syntaxchecks

news.software.nntp

Posted: 29 Days 3 Hours ago by: Franck

Hello, Just by curiosity, In INN, the option "syntaxchecks" say : "When laxmid is set, Message-IDs containing .. in the left part are accepted, as well as Message-IDs with two @. Some non-compliant news posters generate such syntactica

Reddit-NNTP: An RFC 3977 compliant NNTP server frontend for Reddit

news.software.nntp

Posted: 29 Days 13 Hours ago by: meff

Hey all, I've been working on https://github.com/Koshroy/reddit-nntp for some time now and am happy to release it. Reddit-NNTP is an RFC 3977 compliant NNTP server which supports most of MODE READER. Reddit-NNTP fetches posts from Reddit a

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