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* "The state of the C++ developer ecosystem"Lynn McGuire
`* Re: "The state of the C++ developer ecosystem"Bonita Montero
 `* Re: "The state of the C++ developer ecosystem"wij
  +* Re: "The state of the C++ developer ecosystem"Bonita Montero
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  | `- Re: "The state of the C++ developer ecosystem"Bonita Montero
  `* Re: "The state of the C++ developer ecosystem"Bo Persson
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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 17 Jan 2024 23:11 UTC

"The state of the C++ developer ecosystem"
https://www.infoworld.com/article/3712186/the-state-of-the-c-plus-plus-developer-ecosystem.html

"JetBrains’ Developer Ecosystem 2023 report shows where C++ developers
stand on C++ language versions, IDEs, package managers, build tools,
code analysis tools, and AI-assisted development. Let’s dive in."

Some interesting stats there.

Lynn

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 by: Bonita Montero - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:49 UTC

Am 18.01.2024 um 00:11 schrieb Lynn McGuire:

> "The state of the C++ developer ecosystem"
> https://www.infoworld.com/article/3712186/the-state-of-the-c-plus-plus-developer-ecosystem.html

I don't remember exactly who said that, but someone here said
that hardly anything more than C++11 is used today. This study
probably says something completely different.

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 by: wij - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:46 UTC

On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 13:49 +0100, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 18.01.2024 um 00:11 schrieb Lynn McGuire:
>
> > "The state of the C++ developer ecosystem"
> > https://www.infoworld.com/article/3712186/the-state-of-the-c-plus-plus-developer-ecosystem.html
>
> I don't remember exactly who said that, but someone here said
> that hardly anything more than C++11 is used today. This study
> probably says something completely different.
>

I just accept constexpr in C++11 to replace those in std::limits, and
some
others I did not know they were defined in C++11.
But I think what the webpage says is sensible, because New C++
programmers will adopt 'cutting edge' technology without questioning.

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 by: Bonita Montero - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 14:27 UTC

Am 19.01.2024 um 14:46 schrieb wij:

> But I think what the webpage says is sensible, because New C++
> programmers will adopt 'cutting edge' technology without questioning.

New technologies overburden you.

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 by: Bo Persson - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 15:22 UTC

On 2024-01-19 at 14:46, wij wrote:

> But I think what the webpage says is sensible, because New C++
> programmers will adopt 'cutting edge' technology without questioning.
>

What do you mean "without questioning"? I ask myself all the time: "Here
is a new tool that does exactly what I need. Should I start to use it?".

And the answer most often is "Yes".

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 by: wij - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 16:22 UTC

On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 15:27 +0100, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 19.01.2024 um 14:46 schrieb wij:
>
> > But I think what the webpage says is sensible, because New C++
> > programmers will adopt 'cutting edge' technology without
> > questioning.
>
> New technologies overburden you.
>
>

Surprise! How do you know?
I remembered you liked to use lambda almost everywhere possible.
Sadly I did not decide to learn it exactly for the sake of overburden
me.

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 by: wij - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 16:26 UTC

On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 16:22 +0100, Bo Persson wrote:
> On 2024-01-19 at 14:46, wij wrote:
>
> > But I think what the webpage says is sensible, because New C++
> > programmers will adopt 'cutting edge' technology without
> > questioning.
> >
>
> What do you mean "without questioning"? I ask myself all the time:
> "Here
> is a new tool that does exactly what I need. Should I start to use
> it?".
>
> And the answer most often is "Yes".
>
>

I was describing those young people just graduated from school.

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 by: Bonita Montero - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 16:27 UTC

Am 19.01.2024 um 17:22 schrieb wij:
> On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 15:27 +0100, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> Am 19.01.2024 um 14:46 schrieb wij:
>>
>>> But I think what the webpage says is sensible, because New C++
>>> programmers will adopt 'cutting edge' technology without
>>> questioning.
>>
>> New technologies overburden you.
>>
>>
>
> Surprise! How do you know?
> I remembered you liked to use lambda almost everywhere possible.

I'm using lambdas to isolate code which doesn't make sense as a sepate
function because it isn't reused or to save redundant code. Both makes
the code more readable.

> Sadly I did not decide to learn it exactly for the sake of overburden
> me.

Of course.


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