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* Telnet Deprecation & TalkersLouis Epstein
+* Re: Telnet Deprecation & TalkersMarco Moock
|`* Re: Telnet Deprecation & TalkersLouis Epstein
| +* [PLONK] Re: Telnet Deprecation & TalkersMarco Moock
| |`- Re: [PLONK] Re: Telnet Deprecation & TalkersLouis Epstein
| `* Re: Telnet Deprecation & TalkersNoOne
|  +* Re: Telnet Deprecation & TalkersDaveG
|  |`- Re: Telnet Deprecation & TalkersLouis Epstein
|  `- Re: Telnet Deprecation & TalkersLouis Epstein
`- Re: Telnet Deprecation & TalkersPhilip Paeps

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Telnet Deprecation & Talkers

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From: le...@main.lekno.ws (Louis Epstein)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Telnet Deprecation & Talkers
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 by: Louis Epstein - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:06 UTC

I have gotten the subscription DVD of 12.4 and
freebsd-update is telling me I need to upgrade 12.3.

On the back of the DVD case it says
* The telnetd(8) daemon has been deprecated.

Among other out-of-style software are talkers,
I have one I have hosted,and in years past have
reached ones hosted elsewhere by telnet.

Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
you host?
(I believe what I have runs on Amnuts,have
not launched in some years but don't want to
lose the capability).

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Re: Telnet Deprecation & Talkers

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 by: Marco Moock - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:45 UTC

Am 23.01.2023 um 10:06:14 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:

> Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
> in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
> you host?

ncat

> -=-=-
> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Can you please stop sending that spam here?
If not: PLONK.

Re: Telnet Deprecation & Talkers

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From: le...@main.lekno.ws (Louis Epstein)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Telnet Deprecation & Talkers
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58:13 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Louis Epstein - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58 UTC

Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
> Am 23.01.2023 um 10:06:14 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:
>
>> Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
>> in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
>> you host?
>
> ncat

I'm not seeing that as a man page or a port?

>> -=-=-
>> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
>> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
>
> Can you please stop sending that spam here?
> If not: PLONK.
>

I've been signing off messages this way since
September 2001 (by deliberate copy-in,not a
default save) and will continue to do so as long
as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

http://www.lekno.ws/wtc

I regret your lack of understanding of the symbolism
of rebuilding what was destroyed undiminished.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

[PLONK] Re: Telnet Deprecation & Talkers

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 by: Marco Moock - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:04 UTC

Am 25.01.2023 um 06:58:13 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:

> Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
> > Am 23.01.2023 um 10:06:14 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:
> >
> >> Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
> >> in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
> >> you host?
> >
> > ncat
>
> I'm not seeing that as a man page or a port?

Then search for it and compile yourself.

> I've been signing off messages this way since
> September 2001 (by deliberate copy-in,not a
> default save) and will continue to do so as long
> as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

Ok, you are posting bullshit for more than 20 years.

> http://www.lekno.ws/wtc

Doesn't work.

> I regret your lack of understanding of the symbolism
> of rebuilding what was destroyed undiminished.

Wrong group.

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 by: NoOne - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 18:55 UTC

On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58:13 +0000, Louis Epstein wrote:

> I've been signing off messages this way since September 2001 (by
> deliberate copy-in,not a default save) and will continue to do so as long
> as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

A sig starts wit <dash><dash><space> on a line on it's own.
After at least 20 years of using Usenet, you ought to know that by now
Many newsreader can then either not display it at all, or at least
auto-strip it in replies/quotes. There's a reason it's a standard.

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 by: DaveG - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 18:57 UTC

On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 18:55:32 +0000, NoOne wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58:13 +0000, Louis Epstein wrote:
>
>> I've been signing off messages this way since September 2001 (by
>> deliberate copy-in,not a default save) and will continue to do so as long
>> as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.
>
> A sig starts wit <dash><dash><space> on a line on it's own.
> After at least 20 years of using Usenet, you ought to know that by now
> Many newsreader can then either not display it at all, or at least
> auto-strip it in replies/quotes. There's a reason it's a standard.

Sorry, I forgot to add that the ncap command is part of the port
/usr/ports/security/nmap or just pkg install nmap.

--
ad astra tabernamque

Don't feed the trolls. You might catch something nasty.

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 by: Philip Paeps - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 04:55 UTC

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> I have gotten the subscription DVD of 12.4 and
> freebsd-update is telling me I need to upgrade 12.3.
>
> On the back of the DVD case it says
> * The telnetd(8) daemon has been deprecated.
>
> Among other out-of-style software are talkers,
> I have one I have hosted,and in years past have
> reached ones hosted elsewhere by telnet.
>
> Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
> in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
> you host?
> (I believe what I have runs on Amnuts,have
> not launched in some years but don't want to
> lose the capability).

Note that only telnetd(8) is gone. The telnet(1) client is still
included. You can continue to use telnet to connect to talkers on
others' machines. Though it's probably wise to train your fingers to
use nc(1) instead. (Bonus: it's a shorter command.)

If you want to host your own talker that needs telnetd(8) to expose it
to the internet, you'll need to install a compatible telnetd(8) from
ports/packages.

Philip

--
Philip Paeps
Senior Reality Engineer
Alternative Enterprises

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Subject: Re: Telnet Deprecation & Talkers
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 by: Louis Epstein - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:56 UTC

NoOne <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58:13 +0000, Louis Epstein wrote:
>
>> I've been signing off messages this way since September 2001 (by
>> deliberate copy-in,not a default save) and will continue to do so as long
>> as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.
>
> A sig starts wit <dash><dash><space> on a line on it's own.
> After at least 20 years of using Usenet, you ought to know that by now
> Many newsreader can then either not display it at all, or at least
> auto-strip it in replies/quotes. There's a reason it's a standard.
>

I've had my own hosts since 1995 and started using netnews in 1994.

I have always been ANNOYED by wanting to quote and respond to someone's
sig and finding that it disappeared when I tried to post a full-quoting
followup of a message...and it feels unfair for me to demand quotable
sigs of others and hide behind an unquotable sig myself.
And since the matter of WTC rebuilding is a passion thing for me,
I don't actually have an automatically-added sig,I type out the
(carefully NOT dooming the prose to unavoidable deletion) -=-=-
by hand and then paste in the 2 lines by ctrl-R every time I post
a message or send an email.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Re: [PLONK] Re: Telnet Deprecation & Talkers

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 by: Louis Epstein - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:06 UTC

Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
> Am 25.01.2023 um 06:58:13 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:
>
>> Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
>> > Am 23.01.2023 um 10:06:14 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:
>> >
>> >> Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
>> >> in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
>> >> you host?
>> >
>> > ncat
>>
>> I'm not seeing that as a man page or a port?
>
> Then search for it and compile yourself.
>
>> I've been signing off messages this way since
>> September 2001 (by deliberate copy-in,not a
>> default save) and will continue to do so as long
>> as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.
>
> Ok, you are posting bullshit for more than 20 years.
>
>> http://www.lekno.ws/wtc
>
> Doesn't work.

http://lekno.ws/wtc
does work,will have to check configs.


>> I regret your lack of understanding of the symbolism
>> of rebuilding what was destroyed undiminished.
>
> Wrong group.

Asides can be made anywhere.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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 by: Louis Epstein - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:07 UTC

DaveG <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 18:55:32 +0000, NoOne wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58:13 +0000, Louis Epstein wrote:
>>
>>> I've been signing off messages this way since September 2001 (by
>>> deliberate copy-in,not a default save) and will continue to do so as long
>>> as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.
>>
>> A sig starts wit <dash><dash><space> on a line on it's own.
>> After at least 20 years of using Usenet, you ought to know that by now
>> Many newsreader can then either not display it at all, or at least
>> auto-strip it in replies/quotes. There's a reason it's a standard.
>
> Sorry, I forgot to add that the ncap command is part of the port
> /usr/ports/security/nmap or just pkg install nmap.
>

Have now done that though I note nc was already active.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.


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