On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>
>{snip}
>
>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>
>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>
>Wow. Just fucking wow.
>
>He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.

No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.

>And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.

<LOL> Well, neither did I.

On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:17:22 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 8/2/2023 11:54 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
>> On 8/2/2023 11:43 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>
>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>
>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>
>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>
>> Hartung and BlueBitch and all the other right-wingnut traitors consider
>> all of that to be protected speech.
>
>Even if it were, it would still be an attempt to steal the election.

Assumes fats not in evidense...

>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for
>>> hours.
>>
>> Hartung and BlueBitch and all the other right-wingnut traitors consider
>> the assault and invasion of the Capitol to be an "ordinary tourist visit."
>
>Depends on what day it is. On some days, they think it was a false flag
>operation.

On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>
>> {snip}
>>
>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>
>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>
>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>
>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>
> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.

There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
evidence that he knew he had lost.

But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
(noted above) of it.

>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>
> <LOL> Well, neither did I.

You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.

On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>
>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>
>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>
>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>
>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>
>There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>evidence that he knew he had lost.

Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
Trump.

>But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>(noted above) of it.
>
>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>
>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>
>You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.

....and likely, neither was Trump.

In reply to "David Hartung" who wrote the following:

> On 8/2/23 12:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 14:48:29 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> > Sherman) wrote:
> >
> > > Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > <https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/
> > > > > > gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_1.pdf>
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you happen to notice that there's no evidence in the indictment...
> > > > nada....
> > >
> > > It's clear you didn't read it. It's replete with evidence.
> >
> > Really? So show us all this "evidence."
> >
>
> The indictment appears to be 45 pages of pure unadulterated BS.

It's almost all quotes from Republicans in Trump's inner circle. Own it.

On 8/2/2023 12:54 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>
>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>
>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>
>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>
>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>
> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they are
> crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional evidence that he
> knew he had lost.
>
> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very morally
> repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence (noted above) of
> it.
>
>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>
>> <LOL>  Well, neither did I.
>
> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.

BlueBitch isn't the person who assembled, inflamed and dispatched the mob.
Trump is.

In reply to "Lou Bricano" who wrote the following:

> On 8/2/2023 12:54 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> > On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> > > >
> > > > {snip}
> > > >
> > > > > > The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
> > > > >
> > > > > Assumes facts not in evidense.
> > > >
> > > > Wow. Just fucking wow.
> > > >
> > > > He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
> > > > fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
> > > > fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
> > >
> > > No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
> >
> > There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they are
> > crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional evidence that
> > he
> > knew he had lost.
> >
> > But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
> > morally
> > repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence (noted
> > above) of
> > it.
> >
> > > > And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for
> > > > hours.
> > >
> > > <LOL>� Well, neither did I.
> >
> > You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>
> BlueBitch isn't the person who assembled, inflamed and dispatched the mob.
> Trump is.

Exactly. This is very much like Nixon all over again with the die hards supporting Nixon until they weren't. And except that Nixon was an amateur.
Trump has been swindling rubes, laundering Russian money, and stealing from charities for decades.

Even Pence. Even Pence for Christsake says "'crackpot lawyers' told Trump what he wanted to hear"

https://newrepublic.com/post/174804/crackpot-lawyers-mike-pence-blames-trumps-idiot-legal-team-january-6

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pence-trump-indictment/story?id=101953368

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-mike-pence-criticizes-trump-and-blames-crackpot-lawyers-indictment-20230802-
7jxykbhvbfcmzbcggsertm7vhq-story.html

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/pence-shreds-trumps-crackpot-lawyers-in-fiery-statement-on-the-campaign-trail-i-had-no-right-to-overturn-the-
election/

On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>
>>>> {snip}
>>>>
>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>
>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>
>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>
>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>
>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>
>>There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>evidence that he knew he had lost.
>
> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
> Trump.
>
>>But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>(noted above) of it.
>>
>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>
>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>
>>You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>
> ...and likely, neither was Trump.

This comes down to a first amendment case.
Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but that remains to be seen.

--
Charlie Glock
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
-- Adolf Hitler

On 2023-08-02, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
> On 8/2/2023 12:54 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>
>>>> {snip}
>>>>
>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>
>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>
>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>
>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>
>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>
>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they are
>> crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional evidence that he
>> knew he had lost.
>>
>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very morally
>> repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence (noted above) of
>> it.
>>
>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>
>>> <LOL>  Well, neither did I.
>>
>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>
> BlueBitch isn't the person who assembled, inflamed and dispatched the mob.
> Trump is.
>

The part that the scum at CNN aren't telling you, and neither did the Jan6th committee.

""I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and
patriotically make your voices heard," Trump said in his speech."

--
Charlie Glock
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
-- Adolf Hitler

On 8/2/2023 2:31 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
> On 2023-08-02, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
>> On 8/2/2023 12:54 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>
>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>
>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>
>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they are
>>> crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional evidence that he
>>> knew he had lost.
>>>
>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very morally
>>> repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence (noted above) of
>>> it.
>>>
>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>
>>>> <LOL>  Well, neither did I.
>>>
>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>
>> BlueBitch isn't the person who assembled, inflamed and dispatched the mob.
>> Trump is.
>>
>
> The part that the scum at CNN aren't telling you, and neither did the Jan6th committee.
>
> ""I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and
> patriotically make your voices heard," Trump said in his speech."

Everyone saw him wink and smirk as he said that. He knew they were armed, he
knew they were going to be violent. He was trying to cover his ass, and he failed.

On 8/2/2023 2:29 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>
>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>
>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>
>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>> are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>> evidence that he knew he had lost.
>>
>> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
>> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
>> Trump.
>>
>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>> morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>> (noted above) of it.
>>>
>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>
>>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>>
>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>
>> ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>
> This comes down to a first amendment case.

No.

In reply to "Charlie Glock" who wrote the following:

> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
> > > > > > <noway@nowhere.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > {snip}
> > > > >
> > > > > > > The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Assumes facts not in evidense.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow. Just fucking wow.
> > > > >
> > > > > He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
> > > > > fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
> > > > > fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
> > > >
> > > > No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
> > >
> > > There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
> > > are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
> > > evidence that he knew he had lost.
> >
> > Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
> > lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
> > Trump.
> >
> > > But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
> > > morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
> > > (noted above) of it.
> > >
> > > > > And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for
> > > > > hours.
> > > >
> > > > <LOL> Well, neither did I.
> > >
> > > You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
> >
> > ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>
> This comes down to a first amendment case.
> Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but
> that remains to be seen.
>
Not at all. The indictment specifically says Trump had the right to free speech. The indictment focuses on the things that are clear crimes, like
conspiring with groups of fake electors to try to subvert the will of the voters in seven states where Trump lost. Not one of the charges is about
free speech. They are about conspiracy, breaking specific laws, and trying to cheat people out of their votes.

> --
> Charlie Glock
> "To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
> -- Adolf Hitler

In reply to "Lou Bricano" who wrote the following:

> On 8/2/2023 2:31 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
> > On 2023-08-02, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
> > > On 8/2/2023 12:54 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> > > > On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
> > > > > > > <noway@nowhere.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > {snip}
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the
> > > > > > > > election.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Assumes facts not in evidense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wow. Just fucking wow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
> > > > > > fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
> > > > > > fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
> > > > >
> > > > > No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
> > > >
> > > > There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
> > > > are
> > > > crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional evidence
> > > > that he
> > > > knew he had lost.
> > > >
> > > > But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
> > > > morally
> > > > repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence (noted
> > > > above) of
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > > > And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for
> > > > > > hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > <LOL>� Well, neither did I.
> > > >
> > > > You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
> > >
> > > BlueBitch isn't the person who assembled, inflamed and dispatched the mob.
> > > Trump is.
> > >
> >
> > The part that the scum at CNN aren't telling you, and neither did the Jan6th
> > committee.
> >
> > ""I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol
> > building to peacefully and
> > patriotically make your voices heard," Trump said in his speech."
>
> Everyone saw him wink and smirk as he said that. He knew they were armed, he
> knew they were going to be violent. He was trying to cover his ass, and he
> failed.

Exactly. Trump also said things like "you have to fight for your country or you won't have a country." Only the completely dishonest would quote
only one side of the speech.

But regardless of the lies he told and his two-facedness, the charges are about breaking specific laws and conspiracy to cheat people out of their
votes. ANyone who actually is interested in the truth can read the indictment. It's very clear and NEVER touches on what could be argued as free
speech.

On 8/2/2023 2:29 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>
>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>
>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>
>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>> are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>> evidence that he knew he had lost.
>>
>> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
>> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
>> Trump.
>>
>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>> morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>> (noted above) of it.
>>>
>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>
>>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>>
>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>
>> ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>
> This comes down to a first amendment case.
> Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but that remains to be seen.

Fraud is not protected by the First Amendment.

On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:34:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 8/2/2023 2:29 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
>> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>>
>>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>>
>>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>>> are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>>> evidence that he knew he had lost.
>>>
>>> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
>>> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
>>> Trump.
>>>
>>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>>> morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>>> (noted above) of it.
>>>>
>>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>>>
>>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>>
>>> ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>>
>> This comes down to a first amendment case.
>> Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but that remains to be seen.
>
>Fraud is not protected by the First Amendment.

So, what was the fraud?

On 8/2/2023 3:50 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:34:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/2/2023 2:29 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>>>> are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>>>> evidence that he knew he had lost.
>>>>
>>>> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
>>>> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
>>>> Trump.
>>>>
>>>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>>>> morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>>>> (noted above) of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>>>>
>>>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>>>
>>>> ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>>>
>>> This comes down to a first amendment case.
>>> Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but that remains to be seen.
>>
>> Fraud is not protected by the First Amendment.
>
> So, what was the fraud?

Trying to stop the certification of Joe Biden's election victory on the basis of
lies.

On 8/2/2023 3:50 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:34:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/2/2023 2:29 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>>>> are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>>>> evidence that he knew he had lost.
>>>>
>>>> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
>>>> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
>>>> Trump.
>>>>
>>>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>>>> morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>>>> (noted above) of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>>>>
>>>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>>>
>>>> ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>>>
>>> This comes down to a first amendment case.
>>> Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but that remains to be seen.
>>
>> Fraud is not protected by the First Amendment.
>
> So, what was the fraud?

An attempt to defraud the United States of the peaceful transfer of power.

On 2023-08-02, NoBody <NoBody@noplace.com> wrote:
> On 8/2/2023 3:50 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:34:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/2/2023 2:29 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>>>>> are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>>>>> evidence that he knew he had lost.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
>>>>> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
>>>>> Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>>>>> morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>>>>> (noted above) of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>>>>
>>>> This comes down to a first amendment case.
>>>> Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but that remains to be seen.
>>>
>>> Fraud is not protected by the First Amendment.
>>
>> So, what was the fraud?
>
> Trying to stop the certification of Joe Biden's election victory on the basis of
> lies.
>

So does that apply to democrats as well?

<https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/sep/21/lee-zeldin/house-democrats-have-objected-
presidential-electio/>

--
Charlie Glock
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
-- Adolf Hitler

On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 16:04:40 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 8/2/2023 3:50 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:34:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/2/2023 2:29 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>>>>> are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>>>>> evidence that he knew he had lost.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
>>>>> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
>>>>> Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>>>>> morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>>>>> (noted above) of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>>>>
>>>> This comes down to a first amendment case.
>>>> Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but that remains to be seen.
>>>
>>> Fraud is not protected by the First Amendment.
>>
>> So, what was the fraud?
>
>An attempt to defraud the United States of the peaceful transfer of power.

That's the charge, what's the fraudulent act.

On 8/2/2023 4:29 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 16:04:40 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/2/2023 3:50 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:34:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/2/2023 2:29 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>>>>>> are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>>>>>> evidence that he knew he had lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
>>>>>> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
>>>>>> Trump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>>>>>> morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>>>>>> (noted above) of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>> This comes down to a first amendment case.
>>>>> Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but that remains to be seen.
>>>>
>>>> Fraud is not protected by the First Amendment.
>>>
>>> So, what was the fraud?
>>
>> An attempt to defraud the United States of the peaceful transfer of power.
>
>
> That's the charge, what's the fraudulent act.

Claiming he won the election.

On 8/2/2023 4:29 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 16:04:40 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/2/2023 3:50 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:34:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/2/2023 2:29 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-08-02, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:54:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/2/2023 12:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:43:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/1/2023 11:55 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:10:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only third-world thing was Trump trying to steal the election.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He 1) pressured state officials to change their results, 2) advanced
>>>>>>>>> fake electors, 3) pressured the DOJ to announce the election was
>>>>>>>>> fraudulent and 4) pressured Pence into not accepting the votes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No evidense that he did anything that was illegal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is ample evidence he did each of those things. Whether or not they
>>>>>>> are crimes is a matter of opinion, in part dependent on additional
>>>>>>> evidence that he knew he had lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ahhh, so his thoughts are on trial. But actually, whether or not he'd
>>>>>> lost, was, at that time, a matter of opinion by many more people than
>>>>>> Trump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But assuming he did nothing illegal, he did something very, very, very
>>>>>>> morally repugnant to our democracy - and there is overwhelming evidence
>>>>>>> (noted above) of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And for good measure, as the riot was occurring, he did nothing for hours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <LOL> Well, neither did I.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You weren't the person who could have called off the mob.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and likely, neither was Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>> This comes down to a first amendment case.
>>>>> Granted, it "can be" loosely interpreted as yelling fire in a theater, but
>>>>> that remains to be seen.
>>>>
>>>> Fraud is not protected by the First Amendment.
>>>
>>> So, what was the fraud?
>>
>> An attempt to defraud the United States of the peaceful transfer of power.
>
>
> That's the charge, what's the fraudulent act.

The actions were real. The goal of the actions was fraud.

Submitting slates of fraudulent electors, conspiring to submit the slates,
telling a DoJ lackey to send a fraudulent letter to state officials saying
election fraud had been found (none had been), pressuring state election
officials to "find" votes (that didn't exist), siccing a violent mob on Congress
to prevent it from counting the electoral votes. Those are all acts in
furtherance of a fraud.

David Hartung wrote:
> On 8/2/23 12:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 14:48:29 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_1.pdf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you happen to notice that there's no evidence in the
>>>> indictment...
>>>> nada....
>>>
>>> It's clear you didn't read it.  It's replete with evidence.
>>
>> Really?   So show us all this "evidence."
>>
>
> The indictment appears to be 45 pages of pure unadulterated BS.
>

Then the judge will dismiss it tomorrow.

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Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> Trump indicted, again:
> <https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_1.pdf>
>
> Six co-conspirators.
>
> Trump to appear in Federal court on 3 August.
>
> --bks

The word 'sedition' is nowhere in that document, you faggot.

Get shot.

On 8/2/2023 7:03 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> David Hartung wrote:
>> On 8/2/23 12:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 14:48:29 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_1.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you happen to notice that there's no evidence in the indictment...
>>>>> nada....
>>>>
>>>> It's clear you didn't read it.  It's replete with evidence.
>>>
>>> Really?   So show us all this "evidence."
>>>
>>
>> The indictment appears to be 45 pages of pure unadulterated BS.
>>
>
> Then the judge will dismiss it tomorrow.

<giggle> Good one!

On 8/1/2023 3:00 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> Trump indicted, again:
> <https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_1.pdf>
>
> Six co-conspirators.

And *no* sedition or seditious conspiracy:

Seditious conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 2384 is also absent [from the
indictment]. A number of Proud Boys and Oath Keepers have been convicted of
violating that law, which prohibits conspiracies to overthrow the government.
But violating the statute requires the use of force. Conviction presumably
would require proof that Mr. Trump intended the Capitol riot to take place
and that it was not just a political protest that got out of hand. That proof
may be there, but the issue could easily become a major distraction.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/opinion/jack-smith-trump-indictment.html

I think he *should* have been charged with it, but he wasn't, so you fucked up
*again*, just as you fucked up with:

"Oakland, the most successfully integrated city in the USA. Hella proud".
Bradley K. Sherman, colossal fuckwit
https://twitter.com/bradleyksherman

I proved, beyond all rational dispute, that Oakland is *not* the most
successfully integrated city in the USA, and not even the most successfully
integrated city in California (that would be Irvine). And of course, you don't
*live* in Oakland, you fuckwad — you live in ultra-privileged and uber-white
Berkeley. You have no standing to be "proud" of anything about Oakland (a
crime-infested shithole). You don't live there, you don't do anything to
contribute to its improvement — you're only virtue-signaling, and you're *lying*
in order to try to do it.