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Subject: Re: Crazy Is In The Saddle And Rides The GOP
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 by: Mitchell Holman - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:49 UTC

da pickle <jcpickels@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Z5mdnQg3sd7NuUv4nZ2dnZfqlJxj4p2d@giganews.com:

> On 2/21/2024 12:26 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 14:07:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:gr99titl8pmnmlg6b60pai7teur3gg0ufm@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 02:52:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Having failed to get the party back on track, mainstream
>>>>>> Republicans are leaving in droves. Romney's departure was the
>>>>>> signal that it's all over.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This reminds me of the once powerful
>>>>> Whig Party, which broke up into competing
>>>>> factions and fell back together as the
>>>>> abolitionist Republican party.
>>>>>
>>>>> Conservatism once had ideals, some
>>>>> pretty good, now it has become a Trump
>>>>> personality cult and may never recover
>>>>> im a post-Trump world.
>>>>
>>>> <nods>
>>>>
>>>> "Conservative" is becoming a dirty word. Certainly the MAGAs and
>>>> radical extremists on the right have contaminated it.
>>>>
>>>> This means the Dems will end up in control of the government in the
>>>> long run.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They are better at governing than
>>> the GOP, judging by the latest House
>>> leadership civil war.
>>
>> Certainly the economy does better under Democrats.
>>
>> Swill
>
> Interesting belief ... both seem to tax and spend a lot. Cannot say
> that the Republicans are worse than the Democrats. Of course, it
> depends on what one means when they say things like the economy.
>
>
>

Democrats tax and spend,
Republicans BORROW and spend.

And then blame the deficits
on Democrats.

Trump Budget Legacy: A Permanent $1 Trillion Federal Deficit
Oct 22 2019

The U.S. Treasury Department reported
last Friday that the federal budget
deficit for the just-completed fiscal
year had risen by $80 billion over
fiscal 2016 to the ominous-sounding
$666 billion, a number many people
think is an omen for the coming of
the devil or anti-Christ.

In this case they may be right: The
spending and taxing policies about to be
put in place by the Trump administration
and the Republican-controlled Congress
will balloon the federal deficit to $1
trillion or more every year going forward.
http://tinyurl.com/ycdpb74v

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|
| Late last week, the New York Times reported that Donald
| Trump privately told his allies he backs a 16-week national
| abortion ban with some exceptions. Inside the Trump
| campaign, the news was immediately met with deep annoyance,
| anger, and a scramble for damage control, two people
| familiar with the matter tell Rolling Stone.
| ...
<https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-abortion-plan-leak-inflamed-campaign-1234973014/>

--bks

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 by: Siri Cruise - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 23:52 UTC

da pickle wrote:
> Interesting belief ... both seem to tax and spend a lot.  Cannot
> say that the Republicans are worse than the Democrats.  Of course,
> it depends on what one means when they say things like the economy.
>

Belief is not necessary. BLS and BEA provide histories of a
variety of objective statistics that can be cited for or against
whatever interpretation.

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 by: Governor Swill - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 01:57 UTC

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:26:57 -0600, da pickle <jcpickels@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 2/21/2024 12:26 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 14:07:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:gr99titl8pmnmlg6b60pai7teur3gg0ufm@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 02:52:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Having failed to get the party back on track, mainstream Republicans
>>>>>> are leaving in droves. Romney's departure was the signal that it's
>>>>>> all over.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This reminds me of the once powerful
>>>>> Whig Party, which broke up into competing
>>>>> factions and fell back together as the
>>>>> abolitionist Republican party.
>>>>>
>>>>> Conservatism once had ideals, some
>>>>> pretty good, now it has become a Trump
>>>>> personality cult and may never recover
>>>>> im a post-Trump world.
>>>>
>>>> <nods>
>>>>
>>>> "Conservative" is becoming a dirty word. Certainly the MAGAs and
>>>> radical extremists on the right have contaminated it.
>>>>
>>>> This means the Dems will end up in control of the government in the
>>>> long run.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They are better at governing than
>>> the GOP, judging by the latest House
>>> leadership civil war.
>>
>> Certainly the economy does better under Democrats.
>>
>> Swill
>
>Interesting belief ... both seem to tax and spend a lot. Cannot say
>that the Republicans are worse than the Democrats. Of course, it
>depends on what one means when they say things like the economy.
>

The economy is about more than taxation and spending. In fact, I'd say taxation and
spending are relatively minor components of it.

That said, tax and spent has got to be fiscally healthier than borrow and spend.

Can't imagine why you don't understand what the economy is.

Swill
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 by: Governor Swill - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 02:05 UTC

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:49:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

>da pickle <jcpickels@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:Z5mdnQg3sd7NuUv4nZ2dnZfqlJxj4p2d@giganews.com:
>
>> On 2/21/2024 12:26 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 14:07:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:gr99titl8pmnmlg6b60pai7teur3gg0ufm@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 02:52:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Having failed to get the party back on track, mainstream
>>>>>>> Republicans are leaving in droves. Romney's departure was the
>>>>>>> signal that it's all over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This reminds me of the once powerful
>>>>>> Whig Party, which broke up into competing
>>>>>> factions and fell back together as the
>>>>>> abolitionist Republican party.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Conservatism once had ideals, some
>>>>>> pretty good, now it has become a Trump
>>>>>> personality cult and may never recover
>>>>>> im a post-Trump world.
>>>>>
>>>>> <nods>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Conservative" is becoming a dirty word. Certainly the MAGAs and
>>>>> radical extremists on the right have contaminated it.
>>>>>
>>>>> This means the Dems will end up in control of the government in the
>>>>> long run.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They are better at governing than
>>>> the GOP, judging by the latest House
>>>> leadership civil war.
>>>
>>> Certainly the economy does better under Democrats.
>>>
>>> Swill
>>
>> Interesting belief ... both seem to tax and spend a lot. Cannot say
>> that the Republicans are worse than the Democrats. Of course, it
>> depends on what one means when they say things like the economy.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Democrats tax and spend,
>Republicans BORROW and spend.
>
> And then blame the deficits
>on Democrats.
>
>
>
>Trump Budget Legacy: A Permanent $1 Trillion Federal Deficit
>Oct 22 2019
>
>The U.S. Treasury Department reported
>last Friday that the federal budget
>deficit for the just-completed fiscal
>year had risen by $80 billion over
>fiscal 2016 to the ominous-sounding
>$666 billion, a number many people
>think is an omen for the coming of
>the devil or anti-Christ.
>
>In this case they may be right: The
>spending and taxing policies about to be
>put in place by the Trump administration
>and the Republican-controlled Congress
>will balloon the federal deficit to $1
>trillion or more every year going forward.
>http://tinyurl.com/ycdpb74v

Recent deficits:

2008 458.55
2009 1412.69
2010 1294,37
2011 1299.59
2012 1076.57
2013 679.77
2014 484.79
2015 441.96
2016 584.66
2017 665.45
2018 779.14
2019 983.6
2020 3132.46
2021 2775.36
2022 1375.92
2023 1569.0
2024 (budgeted 1846.0)

See what the Trump tax cuts did to the deficit? It's also easy to see how Bush's tax cuts
turned Clinton's surpluses into heavy deficits and we all know that Reagan slashed taxes
and tripled the national debt. And Trump became notorious for claiming he was an expert
in using debt.

From a debt standpoint alone, the nation does better with Democrats.

Swill
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 by: Governor Swill - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 02:06 UTC

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 23:34:56 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

> |
> | Late last week, the New York Times reported that Donald
> | Trump privately told his allies he backs a 16-week national
> | abortion ban with some exceptions. Inside the Trump
> | campaign, the news was immediately met with deep annoyance,
> | anger, and a scramble for damage control, two people
> | familiar with the matter tell Rolling Stone.
> | ...
><https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-abortion-plan-leak-inflamed-campaign-1234973014/>
>
> --bks

Again? Trump's mouth makes another promise his ass can't cash and his staff has to go
into damage control mode? Just like always, I suppose.

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 by: da pickle - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:41 UTC

On 2/20/2024 2:04 PM, da pickle wrote:
> On 2/20/2024 7:28 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 02:52:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Having failed to get the party back on track, mainstream Republicans
>>>> are leaving in droves.  Romney's departure was the signal that it's
>>>> all over.
>>>
>>>
>>>     This reminds me of the once powerful
>>> Whig Party, which broke up into competing
>>> factions and fell back together as the
>>> abolitionist Republican party.
>>>
>>>     Conservatism once had ideals, some
>>> pretty good, now it has become a Trump
>>> personality cult and may never recover
>>> im a post-Trump world.
>>
>> <nods>
>>
>> "Conservative" is becoming a dirty word.  Certainly the MAGAs and
>> radical extremists on
>> the right have contaminated it.
>>
>> This means the Dems will end up in control of the government in the
>> long run.
>>
>> Swill
>
> First define the word "conservative" that you consider "dirty" (which
> also needs a proper definition).
>
> Oxford has this for a start
>
>> con·serv·a·tive
>> /kənˈsərvədiv/
>
>> adjective
>
>> 1.> averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.
>> Similar: traditionalist traditional conventional orthodox stable
>> old-fashioned dyed-in-the-wool unchanging hidebound cautious prudent
>> careful safe timid unadventurous unenterprising set in one's ways
>> moderate middle-of-the-road temperate stick in the mud
>
> Opposite: radical
>
>> 2. (in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private
>> ownership, and socially traditional ideas.
>
>> Similar: right-wing traditionalist reactionary establishmentarian
>> neoliberal neoconservative alt-right Tory Republican true-blue
>
> Opposite: left-wing liberal socialist
>
>
>> noun
>
>> 1. a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values.
>
>  Similar: right-winger rightist reactionary diehard neoliberal
> neoconservative Tory Republican true blue paleo-conservative righty
> gammon (derogatory word)
>
>> Opposite: left-winger left-winger liberal socialist
>
>> 2.
>> a person favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially
>> traditional ideas.
>
>
>
> How do -you- rate (define?) the words "capitalist" and "socialist" ...
> and of course "liberal" ... where is that Center you claim to be just
> "left" of ... maybe add "left and right" to the list.

Words are difficult ... so many of us throw them around without caring
about what happens. Why do so many not wish to use words carefully ...
wars are often started with words ... I wonder how many were misunderstood?

Words ... interesting.

Where is the "center"? Why does no one wish to try to find it?

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|
| As a Florida elementary school tries to contain a growing
| measles outbreak, the state's top health official is giving
| advice that runs counter to science and may leave
| unvaccinated children at risk of contracting one of the
| most contagious pathogens on Earth, clinicians and public
| health experts said.
|
| Florida surgeon general Joseph A. Ladapo failed to urge
| parents to vaccinate their children or keep unvaccinated
| students home from school as a precaution in a letter to
| parents at the Fort Lauderdale-area school this week
| following six confirmed measles cases.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/02/22/florida-measles-outbreak-ladapo/>

--bks

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Governor Swill wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 14:41:39 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>>>>>> | Trump endorses daughter-in-law Lara Trump for RNC leadership
>> |
>> | Lindsey Graham, a longtime foreign policy hawk, bows to
>> | Trump on Ukraine
>> | ...
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/14/lindsey-graham-ukraine-trump/>
>>
>> Trump is the GOP and the GOP is Trump. The GOP has no platform,
>> no philosophy and no ethics. Fealty to Trump is the only virtue.
>> Trump could stick straws up his nose and blow bubbles, and the
>> "conservatives" in this forum would still be fighting one another
>> for the honor of fluffing him.
>
> I don't know why they like him so much. They've been losing governors, statehouses and
> have lost almost every special election over the past year. Trump cost them House and
> Senate seats in 2016, House control in 2018, Senate control in 2020, their expected Red
> Wave and another Senate seat in 2022, and their new razor thin majority in the House can't
> get any work done for infighting. State Parties are going bankrupt, donors are closing
> checkbooks and judges from state to federal all across the country are giving Magoos the
> finger.

Wait... wait... by Crom's bloody sword, #DirtyDon is a
democrat agent! Their plan to destroy the GOP is working!

> Good luck to the RNC because they're going to need it.

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|
| Alabama exposes GOP buyer's remorse on 'personhood,'
| following IVF ruling
| ...
| A flood of Republicans, including former president Donald
| Trump on Friday, asserted that they support IVF. They were
| spurred by an extraordinary memo from Senate Republicans'
| campaign arm urging everyone to embrace the fertility
| treatment.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/26/alabama-exposes-gop-buyers-remorse-personhood-following-ivf-ruling/>

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|
| Once again, the federal government has started preparing
| for a government shutdown. And the blame should fall
| squarely on the shoulders of Mike Johnson, the
| election-denying Louisiana backbencher whom Donald Trump
| wanted to become Speaker of the House. It seems that MAGA
| Mike is learning firsthand that being Speaker is a much
| harder job than it looks, with Johnson trying to lead a
| caucus seemingly more focused on impeachment stunts and
| further restricting abortion access than keeping the
| government open. Perhaps electing an inexperienced zealot
| to be second in line for the presidency wasn't the
| brightest idea.
| ...
<https://www.vanityfair.com/news/mike-johnson-gop-house-shutdown>

--bks

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 18:00 UTC

> | Alabama exposes GOP buyer's remorse on 'personhood,'
> | following IVF ruling

|
| Republican legislators in Florida hit the pause button on a
| bill that would have given any "unborn child" new
| protections after opponents raised concerns it would impact
| women's reproductive rights in ways similar to the Alabama
| IVF ruling.
|
| The bill had passed easily through most committees in the
| Republican-led legislature until Democrats began raising
| concerns last week that the proposal was so broad that it
| might also impact in vitro fertilization treatments.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/02/26/florida-fetal-personhood-alabama-ivf/>

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 by: Governor Swill - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 20:16 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 15:18:19 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

> |
> | Once again, the federal government has started preparing
> | for a government shutdown. And the blame should fall
> | squarely on the shoulders of Mike Johnson, the
> | election-denying Louisiana backbencher whom Donald Trump
> | wanted to become Speaker of the House. It seems that MAGA
> | Mike is learning firsthand that being Speaker is a much
> | harder job than it looks, with Johnson trying to lead a
> | caucus seemingly more focused on impeachment stunts and
> | further restricting abortion access than keeping the
> | government open. Perhaps electing an inexperienced zealot
> | to be second in line for the presidency wasn't the
> | brightest idea.
> | ...
><https://www.vanityfair.com/news/mike-johnson-gop-house-shutdown>
>
> --bks

"Speaker Johnson: ‘Very optimistic’ Congress will avert shutdown "
"Schumer blamed House Republicans for the holdup — ”it is clear now that House Republicans
need more time to sort themselves out” — while Johnson said the delay was because of “new
Democrat demands.”

"Johnson has been under intense pressure from his right flank to push for a number of
controversial policy additions to annual spending bills, including provisions related to
the border, abortion and language that would eliminate the salaries of various Cabinet
officials. Those requests, however, have been soundly rejected by Democrats."
<https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4491733-speaker-johnson-very-optimistic-congress-will-avert-shutdown/>

We see once again that most of our problems are coming from the extreme right.

Swill
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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:57 UTC

> | Florida surgeon general Joseph A. Ladapo failed to urge
> | parents to vaccinate their children or keep unvaccinated
> | students home from school as a precaution in a letter to
> | parents at the Fort Lauderdale-area school this week
> | following six confirmed measles cases.

|
| As measles spreads, 'herd stupidity' grips Florida's
| government
| ...
<https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-02-27/as-measles-spreads-herd-stupidity-grips-floridas-government>

--bks

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>> | Florida surgeon general Joseph A. Ladapo failed to urge
>> | parents to vaccinate their children or keep unvaccinated
>> | students home from school as a precaution in a letter to
>> | parents at the Fort Lauderdale-area school this week
>> | following six confirmed measles cases.
>
> |
> | As measles spreads, 'herd stupidity' grips Florida's
> | government
> | ...
><https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-02-27/as-measles-spreads-herd
>-stupidity-grips-floridas-government>
>
> --bks
>

By his actions he's killing a future generation of MAGA heads. He did a
great killing job during COVID.

Commendable. Bravo!

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 02:01 UTC

>> | Alabama exposes GOP buyer's remorse on 'personhood,'
>> | following IVF ruling

> | Republican legislators in Florida hit the pause button on a
> | bill that would have given any "unborn child" new
> | protections after opponents raised concerns it would impact
> | women's reproductive rights in ways similar to the Alabama
> | IVF ruling.

|
| Alabama lawmakers on Wednesday raced to protect the routine
| practice of in vitro fertilization, moving to assuage
| families and fertility clinics alarmed by a recent State
| Supreme Court ruling that found that frozen embryos should
| be considered children.
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/us/politics/alabama-ivf-protections-law.html>

|
| Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) blocked passage Wednesday
| of a bill to protect access to in-vitro fertilization
| nationwide -- the first federal clash in the roiling debate
| over fertility care that an Alabama court sparked earlier
| this month by granting legal personhood to frozen embryos.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/02/28/congress/blocks-ivf-vote-gop-senate-protections-00143918>

--bks

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 by: Governor Swill - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 04:15 UTC

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 02:01:50 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

>>> | Alabama exposes GOP buyer's remorse on 'personhood,'
>>> | following IVF ruling
>
>> | Republican legislators in Florida hit the pause button on a
>> | bill that would have given any "unborn child" new
>> | protections after opponents raised concerns it would impact
>> | women's reproductive rights in ways similar to the Alabama
>> | IVF ruling.
>
> |
> | Alabama lawmakers on Wednesday raced to protect the routine
> | practice of in vitro fertilization, moving to assuage
> | families and fertility clinics alarmed by a recent State
> | Supreme Court ruling that found that frozen embryos should
> | be considered children.
> | ...
><https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/us/politics/alabama-ivf-protections-law.html>
>
> |
> | Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) blocked passage Wednesday
> | of a bill to protect access to in-vitro fertilization
> | nationwide -- the first federal clash in the roiling debate
> | over fertility care that an Alabama court sparked earlier
> | this month by granting legal personhood to frozen embryos.
> | ...
><https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/02/28/congress/blocks-ivf-vote-gop-senate-protections-00143918>
>
> --bks

It's not been that long since shocked Republicans *insisted* there would be no attempt at
a national abortion ban.

Swill
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<patriot1@protonmail.com> wrote:

>>> | Florida surgeon general Joseph A. Ladapo failed to urge
>>> | parents to vaccinate their children or keep unvaccinated
>>> | students home from school as a precaution in a letter to
>>> | parents at the Fort Lauderdale-area school this week
>>> | following six confirmed measles cases.
>>
>> |
>> | As measles spreads, 'herd stupidity' grips Florida's
>> | government
>> | ...
>><https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-02-27/as-measles-spreads-herd
>>-stupidity-grips-floridas-government>
>>
>> --bks
>>
>
>By his actions he's killing a future generation of MAGA heads. He did a
>great killing job during COVID.
>
>Commendable. Bravo!

Agreed. More dead Republicans means fewer Republican voters.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 12:31 UTC

>>> | As measles spreads, 'herd stupidity' grips Florida's
>>> | government

|
| Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) said Tuesday he would support
| former President Trump as the party's nominee for
| president, even if he's convicted of a crime.
|
| "Absolutely," Scott told CNN's Manu Raju about whether he'd
| support Trump if he's found guilty in one of the criminal
| cases against him.
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4495080-rick-scott-support-convicted-trump/>

--bks

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 13:00 UTC

|
| Trump Getting DESTROYED on Truth Social Over His Vaccine
| Post
| ...
| What made it even worse was when RFK Jr. decided to run as
| an Independent, and the polls immediately thereafter showed
| that he was pulling more votes away from Trump than Biden.
| Many consultants and pollsters were stunned. How could a
| Kennedy draw more votes away from Trump than a Democrat?
| The answer was simple - they were Trump supporters whose #1
| issue is the vaccine, and they couldn't forgive Trump for
| promoting them.
|
| Trump hated to cut the Warp Speed World Hero lines out of
| his rally speeches, but ultimately he was forced to do it.
| He was hearing about it all the time from his advisors,
| family, right-wing media and on social media every time he
| brought it up. So he stopped completely. Trump has gone out
| of his way to avoid the topic, and his supporters have
| started to let it go. But last night, he wrecked all of
| that.
| ...
<https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-getting-destroyed-on-truth-social-over-his-vaccine-post>

--bks

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Subject: Re: Crazy Is In The Saddle And Rides The GOP
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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:22 UTC

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| GOP bill would let college students challenge grades based
| on 'political bias' of professors
| ...
<https://azmirror.com/2024/03/05/gop-bill-would-let-college-students-challenge-grades-based-on-political-bias-of-professors/>

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:03 UTC

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| GOP nominee to run North Carolina public schools called for
| violence against Democrats, including executing Obama and
| Biden
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/politics/kfile-gop-nominee-north-carolina-public-schools-michele-morrow-executing-democrats/index.html>

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On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:03:14 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

> |
> | GOP nominee to run North Carolina public schools called for
> | violence against Democrats, including executing Obama and
> | Biden
> | ...
><https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/politics/kfile-gop-nominee-north-carolina-public-schools-michele-morrow-executing-democrats/index.html>
>
> --bks

"Trump makes radical overhaul of RNC at furious pace

"In the same week Trump officially became the presumptive nominee, the RNC hit reset,
making significant staffing changes that included bringing in several new faces to senior
leadership positions, firing some employees and asking others to reapply for jobs.

"The party reported having just more than $8 million in cash on hand at the beginning of
2024, following an underwhelming fundraising year in 2023.

"By comparison, the DNC and Biden campaign has built up a massive funding base, entering
2024 with $117 million in cash on hand. The Biden campaign has broken its own grassroots
funding records four months in a row.

“It’s clear that donors aren’t buying what the RNC is selling,” DNC executive director Sam
Cornale wrote in a memo released Wednesday. “Between dire finances, abysmal fundraising,
frantic mass firings, and a string of devastating electoral losses, the RNC is barely able
to stay afloat — much less build a winning operation for the general election.”"
<https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4533173-trump-remakes-rnc-republican-nomination/>

Swill
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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 13:28 UTC

>> | GOP nominee to run North Carolina public schools called for
>> | violence against Democrats, including executing Obama and
>> | Biden

|
| Lara Trump Wants to Hire a QAnon-Pushing Election Denier to
| the RNC
|
| The president's daughter-in-law says she wants to enlist
| conspiracy theorist Scott Presler to serve in the "legal
| ballot harvesting division"
| ...
<https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lara-trump-hire-scott-presler-rnc-1234988696/>

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:19 UTC

A frontrunner for Trump VP:
|
| [SC Republican Sen. Tim] Scott: This is our time to stand
| up for what America is today, not this utopian American
| dream that is our nightmare
|
| [12-second Fox News video at URL]
|
<https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1770267586753708398>

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