|
| Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
| wrong.
|
| Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
| Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
| 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
| impression.
| ...
<https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>

--bks

On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> |
> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
> | wrong.
> |
> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
> | impression.
> | ...
><https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>
>
> --bks

Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.

Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.

On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 09:48:33 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:39:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
>>>>>>> | on inflation
>>>>>
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
>>>>> | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
>>>>> | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>> And they did (or did you forget)?
>>>> We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net
>>>> get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
>>>> market returns.
>>>>
>>>> I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into
>>>> the 28000's under Biden.
>>>>
>>>> It's either Biden's market or it's not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When was that market crash?
>>
>> Didn't read before replying????
>>
>
>Are you defining a market crash as any reduction in Dow Jones?
>That's a dozen market crash per month.

34K to 28K is a crash in most people's minds.
You'll do anything to cover for the old coot won't you?

On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 21:07:04 -0500, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 09:48:33 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>NoBody wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:39:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
>>>>>>>> | on inflation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
>>>>>> | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
>>>>>> | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>
>>>>> And they did (or did you forget)?
>>>>> We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net
>>>>> get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
>>>>> market returns.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into
>>>>> the 28000's under Biden.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's either Biden's market or it's not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When was that market crash?
>>>
>>> Didn't read before replying????
>>>
>>
>>Are you defining a market crash as any reduction in Dow Jones?
>>That's a dozen market crash per month.
>
>And Kremlin Girl shows her utter stupidity again.
>
>Trump's highest Dow was only 500 points above Biden's lowest and the current Dow is 7000
>points above Trump's high.
>
>Swill

That's a demonstrable lie.

Dec 18, 2020 30179 Trump
Sept 30,2022 28725 Biden

Math challenged are you?

bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:

> |
> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
> | wrong.
> |
> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
> | impression.
> | ...
> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual
> ly-down-rcna129585>
>
> --bks

Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.

On 2023-12-17, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
>
>> |
>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>> | wrong.
>> |
>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>> | impression.
>> | ...
>><https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>
>>
>> --bks
>
> Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
> arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.
>
> Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.

Ask the people of NYC or SF or Portland or Chicago what they think about OVERALL crime being down.
Why do you think CVS has toothbrushes for example locked up in cabinets?

--
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Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
> news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:
>
>> |
>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>> | wrong.
>> |
>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>> | impression.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual
>> ly-down-rcna129585>
>>
>> --bks
>
>
>
> Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.
>
>
Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other minorities for decades. So
What good have they done?
Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and other minorities have realized
the Democrats do nothing for them and they are moving toward the Republican party.

--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:uln485$2vtt2$4@dont-email.me:

> On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
>> news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:
>>
>>> |
>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>> | wrong.
>>> |
>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>> | impression.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actu
>>> al ly-down-rcna129585>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>
>>
>>
>> Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.
>>
>>
> Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other
> minorities for decades. So What good have they done?
> Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and
> other minorities have realized the Democrats do nothing for them and
> they are moving toward the Republican party.

That explains why the only black
in the GOP nomination (Tim Scott)
flopped entirely - because so many
blacks are switching to the Republicans.

And why the Congressional Black
Caucus has zero Republican members.

On 12/17/2023 6:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
>
>> |
>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>> | wrong.
>> |
>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>> | impression.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>
>>
>> --bks
>
> Total crap. Because the police are being defunded

No police have been "defunded." Stop lying, you fucking troll.

On 12/17/2023 6:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 09:48:33 -0800, Siri Cruise
> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> NoBody wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:39:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
>>>>>>>> | on inflation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
>>>>>> | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
>>>>>> | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>
>>>>> And they did (or did you forget)?
>>>>> We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net
>>>>> get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
>>>>> market returns.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into
>>>>> the 28000's under Biden.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's either Biden's market or it's not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When was that market crash?
>>>
>>> Didn't read before replying????
>>>
>>
>> Are you defining a market crash as any reduction in Dow Jones?
>> That's a dozen market crash per month.
>
> 34K to 28K is a crash in most people's minds.

Bullshit.

On 12/17/2023 7:28 AM, "pothole," knuckle-dragging Nazi liar, lied:
> On 2023-12-17, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>> |
>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>> | wrong.
>>> |
>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>> | impression.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>
>> Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
>> arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.
>>
>> Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.
>
> Ask the people of NYC or SF or Portland or Chicago what they think about OVERALL crime being down.

You don't have *any* fucking idea what the changes in crime rates are in a
single one of those cities, "pothole," you fucking liar. And you don't have any
fucking idea of any changes in police funding, either.

*Fact*: no police have been "defunded."

Donald T. Sherman wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you defining a market crash as any reduction in Dow Jones?
>>> That's a dozen market crash per month.
>>
>> 34K to 28K is a crash in most people's minds.
>
> Bullshit.

Most people don't do stock trades.

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On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 14:39:36 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

>bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
>news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:
>
>> |
>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>> | wrong.
>> |
>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>> | impression.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual
>> ly-down-rcna129585>
>>
>> --bks
>
>
>
> Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.

Democrats tax and spend, Republicans borrow and spend.

Democrats believe in fair play, Republicans believe in cheating.

Democrats want everybody happy, Republicans only want themselves happy.
--
Swill

"I don't want everybody to vote. As a matter of fact, our leverage in
the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
- Paul Weyrich, co founder of Heritage Foundation and Moral Majority

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:31:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
>> news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:
>>
>>> |
>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>> | wrong.
>>> |
>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>> | impression.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual
>>> ly-down-rcna129585>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>
>>
>>
>> Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.
>>
>>
>Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other minorities for decades. So
>What good have they done?
>Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and other minorities have realized
>the Democrats do nothing for them and they are moving toward the Republican party.

I've long said that non white cultures tend to be conservative but have found themselves
rejected by the GOP and that if the rank and file can get past their current flirtation
with racism, the RNC can reign supreme over the DNC.

Swill
--
Swill

"I don't want everybody to vote. As a matter of fact, our leverage in
the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
- Paul Weyrich, co founder of Heritage Foundation and Moral Majority

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:28:54 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2023-12-17, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>> |
>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>> | wrong.
>>> |
>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>> | impression.
>>> | ...
>>><https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>
>> Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
>> arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.
>>
>> Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.
>
>Ask the people of NYC or SF or Portland or Chicago what they think about OVERALL crime being down.
>Why do you think CVS has toothbrushes for example locked up in cabinets?

Got a pic of CVS toothbrushes locked up? Or is that just paranoia at work?

Swill
--
Swill

"I don't want everybody to vote. As a matter of fact, our leverage in
the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
- Paul Weyrich, co founder of Heritage Foundation and Moral Majority

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

Rudy, stfu.

Swill
--
Swill

"I don't want everybody to vote. As a matter of fact, our leverage in
the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
- Paul Weyrich, co founder of Heritage Foundation and Moral Majority

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:31:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
>>> news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:
>>>
>>>> |
>>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>>> | wrong.
>>>> |
>>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>>> | impression.
>>>> | ...
>>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual
>>>> ly-down-rcna129585>
>>>>
>>>> --bks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.
>>>
>>>
>>Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other minorities for decades. So
>>What good have they done?
>>Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and other minorities have realized
>>the Democrats do nothing for them and they are moving toward the Republican party.
>
> I've long said that non white cultures tend to be conservative but have found themselves
> rejected by the GOP and that if the rank and file can get past their current flirtation
> with racism, the RNC can reign supreme over the DNC.
>
> Swill

I think Mitchell nailed it with his identity politics comment.
The problem the Democrats have now is the same or even worse than the problems associated with
Carter. Both had a record to run on for their second term and neither was/is benefiting the people.
Hasidic Jews in NYC typically vote as a block and universally for the Democrats. They are now
moving towards the Republican party. It's starting small but the signs of movement are there.

This election in 2024 is going to come down to two issues:

1. Are you personally better off now than you were when Biden took office ?
2. How much do you hate Trump to where you will continue to suffer under Biden?

I would add that abortion will be a distant third, but still relevant.
--
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Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:28:54 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2023-12-17, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>
>>>> |
>>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>>> | wrong.
>>>> |
>>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>>> | impression.
>>>> | ...
>>>><https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>
>>>>
>>>> --bks
>>>
>>> Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
>>> arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.
>>>
>>> Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.
>>
>>Ask the people of NYC or SF or Portland or Chicago what they think about OVERALL crime being down.
>>Why do you think CVS has toothbrushes for example locked up in cabinets?
>
> Got a pic of CVS toothbrushes locked up? Or is that just paranoia at work?
>
> Swilll

Not at the moment but next time I'm in NYC I snap a pic. For now, this should suffice:

<https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/cvs-target-locking-up-items-toothpaste-soap-deodorant-in-some-
stores/>

<https://www.google.com/search?q=CVS+toothbrushes+locked+up&tbm=isch&chips=q:cvs+toothbrushes+locked
+up,online_chips:san+francisco:To2fworY0RU%3D&hl=en&sa=X&ved=
2ahUKEwiPk4_qx5eDAxXAI1kFHW9mCTsQ4lYoCHoECAEQQQ&biw=1536&bih=612>

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Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:hdsuni9nopihq5r37hil9o693rvhc0b10k@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 14:39:36 +0000, Mitchell Holman
> <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
>>news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:
>>
>>> |
>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>> | wrong.
>>> |
>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>> | impression.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actu
>>> al ly-down-rcna129585>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>
>>
>>
>> Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.
>
> Democrats tax and spend, Republicans borrow and spend.
>
> Democrats believe in fair play, Republicans believe in cheating.
>
> Democrats want everybody happy, Republicans only want themselves
> happy. --

"Trump hates the same people I hate,
that's good enough for me"

On 12/14/2023 4:05 AM, Kremlin Bootlicker wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 02:04:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
>
>>>> | U.S. payrolls rose 199,000 in November, unemployment rate
>>>> | falls to 3.7%
>>
>> |
>> | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
>> | on inflation
>> | ...
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/13/dow-jones-stock-market-record-high-economy-interest-rates/>
>>
>> --bks
>
> So the Dow just reached the point where it was near three years ago.
> Time to celebrate!
>
> <eyeroll>

Jan. 5, 2022: The Dow hit its all-time high of 36,952.65.

Try to remember who was president as of that date, you relentlessly
useless trolling piece of shit.

Dec. 18, 2024: Dow at 37,314.94 just an hour prior to close.

Who's president again, you lying piece of shit?

On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 22:50:14 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:31:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
>>>> news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:
>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>>>> | wrong.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>>>> | impression.
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual
>>>>> ly-down-rcna129585>
>>>>>
>>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other minorities for decades. So
>>>What good have they done?
>>>Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and other minorities have realized
>>>the Democrats do nothing for them and they are moving toward the Republican party.
>>
>> I've long said that non white cultures tend to be conservative but have found themselves
>> rejected by the GOP and that if the rank and file can get past their current flirtation
>> with racism, the RNC can reign supreme over the DNC.
>>
>> Swill
>
>I think Mitchell nailed it with his identity politics comment.

Identity politics affects both parties. If you poll on issues, the great majority of
voters come down clearly on the Democrat side.

But if you ask people their candidate preference by *party*, the majority says they'll
support Republicans.

>The problem the Democrats have now is the same or even worse than the problems associated with
>Carter. Both had a record to run on for their second term and neither was/is benefiting the people.
>Hasidic Jews in NYC typically vote as a block and universally for the Democrats. They are now
>moving towards the Republican party.

That was a pander by Trump declaring Jerusalem the true capital of Israel and moving the
US Embassy there.

>It's starting small but the signs of movement are there.

That movement is being slowed by the hard right. Tough to attract even the most
conservative blacks to a party that also has white supremacist members.

>This election in 2024 is going to come down to two issues:
>
>1. Are you personally better off now than you were when Biden took office ?
>2. How much do you hate Trump to where you will continue to suffer under Biden?
>
>I would add that abortion will be a distant third, but still relevant.

Not that distant. It could cost the GOP significant suburban women votes and therefore
the Congress, assuming that block doesn't split. See Georgia results for 2020 wherein
Trump lost the state closely but its Republican Governor won with a decisive margin.

Also important is gerrymandering. As Dems take over Statehouses, as they are slowly
doing, districts will be drawn to favor Democrats. This could cost, for example, the
Republicans a district in Alabama.

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On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 22:53:39 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:28:54 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2023-12-17, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>>>> | wrong.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>>>> | impression.
>>>>> | ...
>>>>><https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>
>>>>>
>>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>> Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
>>>> arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.
>>>>
>>>> Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.
>>>
>>>Ask the people of NYC or SF or Portland or Chicago what they think about OVERALL crime being down.
>>>Why do you think CVS has toothbrushes for example locked up in cabinets?
>>
>> Got a pic of CVS toothbrushes locked up? Or is that just paranoia at work?
>>
>> Swilll
>
>Not at the moment but next time I'm in NYC I snap a pic. For now, this should suffice:
>
><https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/cvs-target-locking-up-items-toothpaste-soap-deodorant-in-some-stores/>

Thanks!

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On 2023-12-19, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 22:50:14 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:31:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
>>>>> news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
>>>>>> | wrong.
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
>>>>>> | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
>>>>>> | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
>>>>>> | impression.
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual
>>>>>> ly-down-rcna129585>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other minorities for decades. So
>>>>What good have they done?
>>>>Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and other minorities have realized
>>>>the Democrats do nothing for them and they are moving toward the Republican party.
>>>
>>> I've long said that non white cultures tend to be conservative but have found themselves
>>> rejected by the GOP and that if the rank and file can get past their current flirtation
>>> with racism, the RNC can reign supreme over the DNC.
>>>
>>> Swill
>>
>>I think Mitchell nailed it with his identity politics comment.
>
> Identity politics affects both parties. If you poll on issues, the great majority of
> voters come down clearly on the Democrat side.
>
> But if you ask people their candidate preference by *party*, the majority says they'll
> support Republicans.

Pretty much true.

>>The problem the Democrats have now is the same or even worse than the problems associated with
>>Carter. Both had a record to run on for their second term and neither was/is benefiting the people.
>>Hasidic Jews in NYC typically vote as a block and universally for the Democrats. They are now
>>moving towards the Republican party.
>
> That was a pander by Trump declaring Jerusalem the true capital of Israel and moving the
> US Embassy there.

I'm not really sure if that got Trump votes or not. The data is all over the place.

>>It's starting small but the signs of movement are there.
>
> That movement is being slowed by the hard right. Tough to attract even the most
> conservative blacks to a party that also has white supremacist members.

The Hasidic Jews are mostly democrats but they are changing and since they vote as a block it is a
powerful win/loose for either party.
I remember during the midterms I saw banners in Brooklyn NY and Jewish hoods pushing Trump. I have
never seen that before.

>>This election in 2024 is going to come down to two issues:
>>
>>1. Are you personally better off now than you were when Biden took office ?
>>2. How much do you hate Trump to where you will continue to suffer under Biden?
>>
>>I would add that abortion will be a distant third, but still relevant.
>
> Not that distant. It could cost the GOP significant suburban women votes and therefore
> the Congress, assuming that block doesn't split. See Georgia results for 2020 wherein
> Trump lost the state closely but its Republican Governor won with a decisive margin.

Surburban women is a possibility. At least where I live, many are idiot soccer moms driving mini
vans but even they are starting to realize that when the go to the market to buy gods, things cost
a LOT more than they used to.
Still, they went Dems in the midterms so who really knows?

> Also important is gerrymandering. As Dems take over Statehouses, as they are slowly
> doing, districts will be drawn to favor Democrats. This could cost, for example, the
> Republicans a district in Alabama.

Both sides do that.
i do not approve.

> NP: Beatles - Come Together
> --
> Swill

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Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

| ...
| How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
| Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
| projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
| unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
| inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
| projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
| core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
| is even better, because that last number is inflation for
| the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
| core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
| analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
| later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
| percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/opinion/inflation-economists.html>

--bks

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 02:36:08 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2023-12-19, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Identity politics affects both parties. If you poll on issues, the great majority of
>> voters come down clearly on the Democrat side.
>>
>> But if you ask people their candidate preference by *party*, the majority says they'll
>> support Republicans.
>
>Pretty much true.
>
>
>>>The problem the Democrats have now is the same or even worse than the problems associated with
>>>Carter. Both had a record to run on for their second term and neither was/is benefiting the people.
>>>Hasidic Jews in NYC typically vote as a block and universally for the Democrats. They are now
>>>moving towards the Republican party.
>>
>> That was a pander by Trump declaring Jerusalem the true capital of Israel and moving the
>> US Embassy there.
>
>I'm not really sure if that got Trump votes or not. The data is all over the place.

See your below.

>>>It's starting small but the signs of movement are there.
>>
>> That movement is being slowed by the hard right. Tough to attract even the most
>> conservative blacks to a party that also has white supremacist members.
>
>The Hasidic Jews are mostly democrats but they are changing and since they vote as a block it is a
>powerful win/loose for either party.
>I remember during the midterms I saw banners in Brooklyn NY and Jewish hoods pushing Trump. I have
>never seen that before.

Trump's pander. The extremists Jews like the Hasidic *will* respond to the symbolism of
our Embassy in Israel. But will the rank and file allow that to overcome their
essentially liberal politics?

>>>This election in 2024 is going to come down to two issues:
>>>
>>>1. Are you personally better off now than you were when Biden took office ?
>>>2. How much do you hate Trump to where you will continue to suffer under Biden?
>>>
>>>I would add that abortion will be a distant third, but still relevant.
>>
>> Not that distant. It could cost the GOP significant suburban women votes and therefore
>> the Congress, assuming that block doesn't split. See Georgia results for 2020 wherein
>> Trump lost the state closely but its Republican Governor won with a decisive margin.
>
>Surburban women is a possibility. At least where I live, many are idiot soccer moms driving mini
>vans but even they are starting to realize that when the go to the market to buy gods, things cost
>a LOT more than they used to.
>Still, they went Dems in the midterms so who really knows?

Republicans are masters of wedge issues. Now that the abortion goal has been achieved,
those pro-lifers who've voted GOP in the past no longer have that single-issue to vote
about and can now change parties. The pro choicers who've voted GOP for other reasons
thinking Roe would never be overturned have a solid reason to switch to the Dems.

Kansas and South Carolina's GOP legislatures failed in multiple attempts to ban abortion
and red Ohio has added the right to abortion to their Constitution. The GOP has lost all
but a tiny handful of elections since Dobbs.

If the Washington were to actually fix the immigration problem, the GOP voter base would
all but collapse and the Dobbs Effect proves this.

>> Also important is gerrymandering. As Dems take over Statehouses, as they are slowly
>> doing, districts will be drawn to favor Democrats. This could cost, for example, the
>> Republicans a district in Alabama.
>
>Both sides do that.
>i do not approve.

Neither do I.

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