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Bs"d

Somebody who resigns gracefully never intended to win anyway.

Got this proverb from Bill Wall. I like it. Gives me some justification when I'm really pissed and I just let the time run out.

Just now had one of those die hards who really didn't want to resign, and played on to the mate, while he had only a bare king, and I had three pieces:
https://lichess.org/SVPUm5mUarsA

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

Drag it out a little longer for him. I'm surely having fun, playing around a bit with my food :D

That will teach him.

https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace

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 by: William Hyde - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 23:31 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 5:12:28 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
> Bs"d
>
> Somebody who resigns gracefully never intended to win anyway.
>
> Got this proverb from Bill Wall. I like it.

It's total horseshit.

Even Fischer could resign gracefully. After one of his losses in the second Spassky match, when things were not going well, he said "Sometimes you give lessons, sometimes you get lessons".

> Gives me some justification when I'm really pissed and I just let the time run out.

If that is your response to a loss, no surprise that you seek out only weak opponents.

Waiting until your flag falls, if there's more than a few moments, is the act of a spoiled child. Have the guts to resign.

> Just now had one of those die hards who really didn't want to resign, and played on to the mate, while he had only a bare king, and I had three pieces:

Weaker players often don't resign until mate. At fast time controls this is no real bother.

> https://lichess.org/SVPUm5mUarsA

His castling was a blunder, and notice how his ... h6 helped you. But you conducted the attack nicely. The endgame is easily won, but still I think you played it well given the time control.

Your third move though .... really?

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.

>
> I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
>
> That takes normally about 35 moves.
>
> He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique. Still, a C player friend of mine did the same thing, mating with N&B though he could have promoted a pawn. This was OTB, so he couldn't have had any electronic help.

I would have promoted the pawn, mated the idiot, and gone to do something more interesting. But each to his own.

>
> Drag it out a little longer for him. I'm surely having fun, playing around a bit with my food :D
>
> That will teach him.

From long experience I can say that it won't.

William Hyde

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 by: Eli Kesef - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 00:08 UTC

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 1:31:08 AM UTC+2, William Hyde wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 5:12:28 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
> > Bs"d
> >
> > Somebody who resigns gracefully never intended to win anyway.
> >
> > Got this proverb from Bill Wall. I like it.
> It's total horseshit.
>
> Even Fischer could resign gracefully. After one of his losses in the second Spassky match, when things were not going well, he said "Sometimes you give lessons, sometimes you get lessons".

Bs"d

I'm afraid that, where chess is concerned, I'm not yet on Bobby's level.

> > Gives me some justification when I'm really pissed and I just let the time run out.
> If that is your response to a loss, no surprise that you seek out only weak opponents.
>
> Waiting until your flag falls, if there's more than a few moments, is the act of a spoiled child. Have the guts to resign.

I usually do.

Usually.

Not when I'm really pissed.

> > Just now had one of those die hards who really didn't want to resign, and played on to the mate, while he had only a bare king, and I had three pieces:
> Weaker players often don't resign until mate. At fast time controls this is no real bother.
>
> > https://lichess.org/SVPUm5mUarsA
>
> His castling was a blunder, and notice how his ... h6 helped you. But you conducted the attack nicely. The endgame is easily won, but still I think you played it well given the time control.
>
> Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.
>
> Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.
> >
> > I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
> >
> > That takes normally about 35 moves.
> >
> > He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.
> I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon. But I must say, in a minority of the cases it goes wrong. Then he slips through the cracks.
Maybe in 10-20% of the cases. But that keeps it interesting, and it is good practice.

> Still, a C player friend of mine did the same thing, mating with N&B though he could have promoted a pawn. This was OTB, so he couldn't have had any electronic help.

There are three positions in which you can mate him, but I learned one, and that is enough.

> I would have promoted the pawn, mated the idiot, and gone to do something more interesting. But each to his own.
> >
> > Drag it out a little longer for him. I'm surely having fun, playing around a bit with my food :D
> >
> > That will teach him.
> From long experience I can say that it won't.
>
> William Hyde

This too was chess. And it is fun to play around with an obstinate opponent.

https://tinyurl.com/leag-of-legends

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 by: William Hyde - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 21:06 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

> >
> > Your third move though .... really?
> I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.

> >
> > Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.
> > >
> > > I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
> > >
> > > That takes normally about 35 moves.
> > >
> > > He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.
> > I find it surprising that you have the technique.
> Learned it on a rainy afternoon.

Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

> > > Drag it out a little longer for him. I'm surely having fun, playing around a bit with my food :D
> > >
> > > That will teach him.
> > From long experience I can say that it won't.
> >
> > William Hyde
> This too was chess. And it is fun to play around with an obstinate opponent.

My suggestion is that you move to Texas and play there. From experience I can say that they never resign before mate (1). Must be the Alamo effect.

Just don't let your clock run out if you are losing an OTB game. They are armed.

(1) Pardonable exaggeration, I hope.

William Hyde

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 by: Ken Blake - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 21:33 UTC

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Your third move though .... really?
>> I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.
>
>When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.
>
>
>> >
>> > Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.
>> > >
>> > > I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
>> > >
>> > > That takes normally about 35 moves.
>> > >
>> > > He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.
>> > I find it surprising that you have the technique.
>> Learned it on a rainy afternoon.
>
>Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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 by: Eli Kesef - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 22:04 UTC

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
> <wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> > Your third move though .... really?
> >> I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.
> >
> >When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> > Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.
> >> > >
> >> > > I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
> >> > >
> >> > > That takes normally about 35 moves.
> >> > >
> >> > > He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.
> >> > I find it surprising that you have the technique.
> >> Learned it on a rainy afternoon.
> >
> >Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.
> I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

Bs"d

It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the king.
I don't understand anything of it.

I got mine from a Dutch chess book, which gives a fairly good explanation, except it leaves out some key facts which I had to figure out on my own. The hardest part is driving the enemy king in a corner or against a wall, and then having you horse ready on the right square.
Sometimes I mess up. It takes about 35 moves, and if you let the enemy king slip back to the middle of the board just one time, your screwed. Then you cannot get it done anymore within 50 moves.

The amount of times you will get this in practical play hovers around zero, so it is more like solving a puzzle or an intellectual exercise.
But it is fun.
In the above game the enemy helped me by going by himself to the edge of the board.

This is a decent explanation about how I do it: https://www.ragchess.com/checkmate-knight-bishop/

https://tinyurl.com/maybe-3-people

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 by: Ken Blake - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 23:39 UTC

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyhorsefork@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
>> <wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Your third move though .... really?
>> >> I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.
>> >
>> >When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.
>> >
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > That takes normally about 35 moves.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.
>> >> > I find it surprising that you have the technique.
>> >> Learned it on a rainy afternoon.
>> >
>> >Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.
>> I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.
>
>Bs"d
>
>It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the king.
>I don't understand anything of it.

Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.

There are *no* ways.

There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
bishop and a horse.

You insist on calling pieces (rook and knight) by wrong names. You're
free to call them whatever you want, but you don't want to understand
that that makes you like look like a nine-year old beginner at the
game.

But I do have to admit that your remembering games you've played over
and over and over again and beating very weak players by playing the
same moves makes you look like a thirteen-year old beginner, not a
nine-year old one.

Feel free to enjoy your royal fucks.

--
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 by: Ken Blake - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 23:43 UTC

On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 15:05:31 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
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>On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 14:33:46 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.
>
>I learned by playing speed chess with that position for quarters and
>if I failed in 50 moves or dropped flag I paid.

No you didn't. See my reply to Eli. You missed my point too.

>The kind of things we do between rounds to kill time you know?
>
>(Yeah yeah I know it's been awhile for most of us in live over the
>board events)

It's been long while (15 years or so) since I've played a game of
chess, over the board or any other way. And more like 60 years since I
last played in a tournament.

I'm still interested in Chess, but my playing days are long gone.

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 by: Ken Blake - Mon, 7 Mar 2022 16:45 UTC

On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 19:25:55 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
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>On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 16:43:59 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
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>
>>It's been long while (15 years or so) since I've played a game of
>>chess, over the board or any other way. And more like 60 years since I
>>last played in a tournament.
>>
>>I'm still interested in Chess, but my playing days are long gone.
>
>I regularly play chess and read my chess books (as in 'several times a
>week') but the last time I played in a tournament was 15 years ago

About 63 years ago for me.

>though as an International Arbiter I've directed more recently :)

--
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 by: William Hyde - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 00:41 UTC

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:39:22 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
> <nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
> >> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
> >> <wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Your third move though .... really?
> >> >> I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.
> >> >
> >> >When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > That takes normally about 35 moves.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.
> >> >> > I find it surprising that you have the technique.
> >> >> Learned it on a rainy afternoon.
> >> >
> >> >Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.
> >> I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.
> >
> >Bs"d
> >
> >It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the king.
> >I don't understand anything of it.
> Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.
>
> There are *no* ways.
>
> There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
> bishop and a horse.

I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".

There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.

That book can raise the endgame play of a low B player to expert. It did so with me. I kept it in my briefcase, and read it on the bus/subway.

William Hyde

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On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:41:35 AM UTC+2, William Hyde wrote:
> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:39:22 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
> > On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
> > <nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
> > >> <wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Your third move though .... really?
> > >> >> I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.
> > >> >
> > >> >When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > That takes normally about 35 moves.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.
> > >> >> > I find it surprising that you have the technique.
> > >> >> Learned it on a rainy afternoon.
> > >> >
> > >> >Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.
> > >> I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.
> > >
> > >Bs"d
> > >
> > >It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the king.
> > >I don't understand anything of it.
> > Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.
> >
> > There are *no* ways.
> >
> > There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
> > bishop and a horse.
> I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".
>
>
> There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.
>
> That book can raise the endgame play of a low B player to expert. It did so with me. I kept it in my briefcase, and read it on the bus/subway.

Bs"d

I have that book in English and in Dutch. The English is in descriptive notation, so I won't be using that one very much.

But I have to start learning some more endgame technique.

https://tinyurl.com/GR-Endgame

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 by: Ken Blake - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 17:14 UTC

On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 16:41:34 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:39:22 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
>> <nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
>> >> <wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Your third move though .... really?
>> >> >> I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.
>> >> >
>> >> >When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > That takes normally about 35 moves.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.
>> >> >> > I find it surprising that you have the technique.
>> >> >> Learned it on a rainy afternoon.
>> >> >
>> >> >Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.
>> >> I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.
>> >
>> >Bs"d
>> >
>> >It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the king.
>> >I don't understand anything of it.
>> Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.
>>
>> There are *no* ways.
>>
>> There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
>> bishop and a horse.
>
>I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".

No, of course not. No chessplayer (almost no chessplayer? and perhaps
a few children who just learned the game) besides Eli Kesef say
"horse" or "castle." Eli Kesef's insistence on doing is just one of
many examples of his posturing as a young child.

He's of course entitled to call the pieces whatever he wants to here,
just as I'm entitled to make fun of his silliness in doing so.

>There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.

I don't know that book. I learned the mate from Reuben Fine's "Basic
Chess Endings" many years ago, but I long ago forgot it.

--
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On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:14:22 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 16:41:34 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
> <wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:39:22 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
> >> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
> >> <nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
> >> >> <wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Your third move though .... really?
> >> >> >> I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > That takes normally about 35 moves.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.
> >> >> >> > I find it surprising that you have the technique.
> >> >> >> Learned it on a rainy afternoon.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.
> >> >> I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.
> >> >
> >> >Bs"d
> >> >
> >> >It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the king.
> >> >I don't understand anything of it.
> >> Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.
> >>
> >> There are *no* ways.
> >>
> >> There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
> >> bishop and a horse.
> >
> >I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".
> No, of course not. No chessplayer (almost no chessplayer? and perhaps
> a few children who just learned the game)

Bs"d

And of course IM (he is not a GM) Jeremy Silman. The truth is unstoppable!

> besides Eli Kesef say
> "horse" or "castle." Eli Kesef's insistence on doing is just one of
> many examples of his posturing as a young child.

Young at heart!

> He's of course entitled to call the pieces whatever he wants to here,
> just as I'm entitled to make fun of his silliness in doing so.

Whatever floats your boat.

https://tinyurl.com/hors-ey

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 by: Eli Kesef - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 22:55 UTC

Bs"d

And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is answered (of course!) with the Falkbeer counter gambit:
https://lichess.org/y1fxGt1LATrv

So I gave him a pawn, and then I gave him another pawn, (move of Morphy) and then on move 13 the enemy run away out of the game, without resigning.

Like is said; I understand: https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace

Fortunately, when they walk out of the game, after about 2 minutes, you get the option of claiming victory. I didn't have to wait 15 minutes. That only happens when he doesn't walk out, but simply doesn't move anymore.

The game ended on move 13, after I sent him the message: "Nasty horse fork", and then royally forked him. He had the audacity to request two times a takeback, so I had to sent him two times the following link: https://tinyurl.com/pick-pocket

So when I was waiting for the following victim to play against me he challenged me to another fight. Since I am a kind, understanding, and forgiving person, I obliged him, and we got another kings gambit followed by a Falkbeer on the board: https://lichess.org/owmUrlns
On move 15 he lost his queen, but he bravely soldiered on, but, of course in vain. On move 23 he again fell victim to a nasty horse fork, and then he surrendered.

Those are the kind of chess games I like.

https://tinyurl.com/ruthles-kill

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 by: Ken Blake - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 00:36 UTC

On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyhorsefork@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bs"d
>
>And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is answered (of course!)
> with the Falkbeer counter gambit:

Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings
Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

>https://lichess.org/y1fxGt1LATrv

>
>So I gave him a pawn, and then I gave him another pawn, (move of Morphy) and then on move 13 the enemy run away out of the game, without resigning.

It's just incredible that such a strong player as your opponent in
this game let you play all your brilliant moves and beat him.

>Like is said; I understand: https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace
>
>Fortunately, when they walk out of the game, after about 2 minutes, you get the option of claiming victory. I didn't have to wait 15 minutes. That only happens when he doesn't walk out, but simply doesn't move anymore.
>
>The game ended on move 13, after I sent him the message: "Nasty horse fork", and then royally forked him.

It was just a shame that you weren't royally fucked by his horse.

> He had the audacity to request two times a takeback, so I had to sent him two times the following link: https://tinyurl.com/pick-pocket
>
>So when I was waiting for the following victim to play against me he challenged me to another fight. Since I am a kind, understanding, and forgiving person, I obliged him, and we got another kings gambit followed by a Falkbeer on the board: https://lichess.org/owmUrlns

It's just incredible that so many strong players fall victim to your
grandmasterly skills at the game. You are incredibly skilled at
fucking horses.

>On move 15 he lost his queen, but he bravely soldiered on, but, of course in vain. On move 23 he again fell victim to a nasty horse fork, and then he surrendered.
>
>Those are the kind of chess games I like.

None of us here cares what kind of chess games you like. Keep your
childish silliness to yourself.

I'm not sure why I continue to stay in this newsgroup. I guess it's
because once in a while, there's a message here from someone else
that's of some interest. But certainly not from you.

Perhaps I should just killfile you. Then you would have almost no
responses to your stupid posts. Would that induce you to stop posting
your beginner's games and go away?

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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 by: Eli Kesef - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 05:25 UTC

On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:36:10 AM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
> <nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Bs"d
> >
> >And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is answered (of course!)
> > with the Falkbeer counter gambit:
> Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings
> Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.
> >https://lichess.org/y1fxGt1LATrv
>
> >
> >So I gave him a pawn, and then I gave him another pawn, (move of Morphy) and then on move 13 the enemy run away out of the game, without resigning.
> It's just incredible that such a strong player as your opponent in
> this game let you play all your brilliant moves and beat him.
> >Like is said; I understand: https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace
> >
> >Fortunately, when they walk out of the game, after about 2 minutes, you get the option of claiming victory. I didn't have to wait 15 minutes. That only happens when he doesn't walk out, but simply doesn't move anymore.
> >
> >The game ended on move 13, after I sent him the message: "Nasty horse fork", and then royally forked him.
> It was just a shame that you weren't royally fucked by his horse.
> > He had the audacity to request two times a takeback, so I had to sent him two times the following link: https://tinyurl.com/pick-pocket
> >
> >So when I was waiting for the following victim to play against me he challenged me to another fight. Since I am a kind, understanding, and forgiving person, I obliged him, and we got another kings gambit followed by a Falkbeer on the board: https://lichess.org/owmUrlns
> It's just incredible that so many strong players fall victim to your
> grandmasterly skills at the game. You are incredibly skilled at
> fucking horses.

Bs"d

https://is.gd/pure_lov

> >On move 15 he lost his queen, but he bravely soldiered on, but, of course in vain. On move 23 he again fell victim to a nasty horse fork, and then he surrendered.
> >
> >Those are the kind of chess games I like.
> None of us here cares what kind of chess games you like. Keep your
> childish silliness to yourself.
>
>
> I'm not sure why I continue to stay in this newsgroup. I guess it's
> because once in a while, there's a message here from someone else
> that's of some interest. But certainly not from you.
>
> Perhaps I should just killfile you.

Who is stopping you?

> Then you would have almost no
> responses to your stupid posts. Would that induce you to stop posting
> your beginner's games and go away?

Only one way to find out.

http://tiny.cc/isolated-gloom

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 by: The Horny Goat - Fri, 11 Mar 2022 06:03 UTC

On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 10:14:19 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>>There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.
>
>I don't know that book. I learned the mate from Reuben Fine's "Basic
>Chess Endings" many years ago, but I long ago forgot it.

I had a copy years ago but sold a bunch of stuff when I went off to
grad school in the early 80s.

I'd be interested in knowiing if there were an algebraic or FAN
version - am pretty sure mine was descriptive, about 5" x 4" x 1" and
hard cover.

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 by: The Horny Goat - Fri, 11 Mar 2022 06:04 UTC

On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:36:06 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
><nastyhorsefork@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Bs"d
>>
>>And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is =
>answered (of course!)
>> with the Falkbeer counter gambit:
>=20
>
>Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings
>Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

I've defended the KGA for years with the h6 lines

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 by: Eli Kesef - Fri, 11 Mar 2022 07:17 UTC

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:04:45 AM UTC+2, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:36:06 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
> ><nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Bs"d
> >>
> >>And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is =
> >answered (of course!)
> >> with the Falkbeer counter gambit:
> >=20
> >
> >Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings
> >Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.
> I've defended the KGA for years with the h6 lines

Bs"d

Do you have an example of a game like that?

https://tinyurl.com/bad-chess-day

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 by: Ken Blake - Fri, 11 Mar 2022 16:53 UTC

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:04:40 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:36:06 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
>><nastyhorsefork@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Bs"d
>>>
>>>And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is >>answered (of course!)
>>> with the Falkbeer counter gambit:
>>=20
>>
>>Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings
>>Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.
>
>I've defended the KGA for years with the h6 lines

You must be the only person who doesn't play what Kesef does. <G>

It's been so long since I've played and it was so rare the anyone
played the King's Gambit against me, but If I remember correctly, I
used to usually play 3... Be7

--
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 by: Ken Blake - Fri, 11 Mar 2022 16:55 UTC

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:03:13 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 10:14:19 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.
>>
>>I don't know that book. I learned the mate from Reuben Fine's "Basic
>>Chess Endings" many years ago, but I long ago forgot it.
>
>I had a copy years ago but sold a bunch of stuff when I went off to
>grad school in the early 80s.
>
>I'd be interested in knowiing if there were an algebraic or FAN
>version - am pretty sure mine was descriptive, about 5" x 4" x 1" and
>hard cover.

Same for me. Copyright 1941, second edition here.

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 by: William Hyde - Fri, 11 Mar 2022 21:39 UTC

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 7:36:10 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
> <nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Bs"d
> >
> >And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is answered (of course!)
> > with the Falkbeer counter gambit:
> Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings
> Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

I think the implication is that he would never play anything else. Or in general, he would never play a non-gambit when a gambit is available.

Tarrasch always played the Falkbeer against the KG, considered it a refutation.

> >https://lichess.org/y1fxGt1LATrv
>
> >
> >So I gave him a pawn, and then I gave him another pawn, (move of Morphy) and then on move 13 the enemy run away out of the game, without resigning.
> It's just incredible that such a strong player as your opponent in
> this game let you play all your brilliant moves and beat him.
> >Like is said; I understand: https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace
> >
> >Fortunately, when they walk out of the game, after about 2 minutes, you get the option of claiming victory. I didn't have to wait 15 minutes. That only happens when he doesn't walk out, but simply doesn't move anymore.
> >
> >The game ended on move 13, after I sent him the message: "Nasty horse fork", and then royally forked him.
> It was just a shame that you weren't royally fucked by his horse.
> > He had the audacity to request two times a takeback, so I had to sent him two times the following link: https://tinyurl.com/pick-pocket
> >
> >So when I was waiting for the following victim to play against me he challenged me to another fight. Since I am a kind, understanding, and forgiving person, I obliged him, and we got another kings gambit followed by a Falkbeer on the board: https://lichess.org/owmUrlns
> It's just incredible that so many strong players fall victim to your
> grandmasterly skills at the game. You are incredibly skilled at
> fucking horses.
> >On move 15 he lost his queen, but he bravely soldiered on, but, of course in vain. On move 23 he again fell victim to a nasty horse fork, and then he surrendered.
> >
> >Those are the kind of chess games I like.
> None of us here cares what kind of chess games you like. Keep your
> childish silliness to yourself.

The best game he's shown by far is the one with the king side attack a week ago. For a speed game he conducted the attack fairly well, and the opponent dropped no pieces.

Why he prefers games where the opponents don't put up a fight is a mystery to me.

>
>
> I'm not sure why I continue to stay in this newsgroup.

Even when the group was active, he wouldn't be the worst poster at all. There was some horrible crap posted here regularly. The group rec.games.chess.politics was created in hopes of diverting some of that crap away from here, but it didn't work, just gave another venue for the crap.

I've been encouraging some reasonable chess players I know to post here, but no luck. Some people like newsgroups, some do not. Of the various newsgroups I used to follow, only talk.origins and rec.arts.sf.written are still active and on-topic. Maybe alt.atheism as well, but it's mostly crap.

The real discussions that used to take place here, and there were some which were fascinating, are now fractured over dozens of blogs and web sites. It is impossible to keep track of them, much better to have a large fraction of such discussions here, but that isn't happening.

William Hyde

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 by: Ken Blake - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 16:57 UTC

On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 14:23:02 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
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>On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 09:53:16 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>>Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings
>>>>Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.
>>>
>>>I've defended the KGA for years with the h6 lines
>>
>>
>>
>>You must be the only person who doesn't play what Kesef does. <G>
>>
>>It's been so long since I've played and it was so rare the anyone
>>played the King's Gambit against me, but If I remember correctly, I
>>used to usually play 3... Be7
>
>Not sure whether you're talking the gambit accepted or declined but
>will assume you mean accepted

Yes, I was replying to your message in which you said "kgA."

>since Bc5 is by far the best known way
>to decline it while Be7 is the usual main line in the accepted
>version.

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 by: Eli Kesef - Fri, 1 Apr 2022 08:33 UTC

Bs"d

And I got another one, an anti-miniature. One of those guys he really REALLY don't wanna say die. He dragged on and on and on, so I thought: "Let's give this guy a hand." After all, we are in the world to help each other, ain't we?

So the enemy was left with a bare king, while I had a castle and 6 pawns: https://lichess.org/tvaD5ntbHWNq

And he played on. So I horsed a pawn, and then I bishopped a pawn, (nobody objects when somebody says: "I queened my pawn", so please don't start whining about me not queening my pawn, but converting it to something else) and then I queened the rest, after which I fed those queens to his king.
At one point he even refused to take my queens and my last castle. I had to force feed them to him.
But anyway, at last he was left with his bare king, and I started to mate him with my king, horse and bishop.
With good success I might add, it took me only 27 moves, and he was mate on move 114.

Chalk up another one for the good guy!

https://tinyurl.com/horse-bishop

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 by: William Hyde - Fri, 1 Apr 2022 20:12 UTC

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:33:26 AM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:
> Bs"d
>
> And I got another one, an anti-miniature. One of those guys he really REALLY don't wanna say die. He dragged on and on and on, so I thought: "Let's give this guy a hand." After all, we are in the world to help each other, ain't we?

These people who play 15+ increment as if it was bullet confuse me. Does he think there are extra points for losing with more time on the clock?

Your Bd4 move sent me to the hospital with uncontrolled vomiting. They didn't think I would live but an emergency dose of Lasker stabilized me.

William Hyde

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