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* Don't make the 5ptTimothy Chow
`* Rollout: Don't make the 5ptTimothy Chow
 `- Re: Rollout: Don't make the 5ptStick Rice

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Don't make the 5pt

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From: tchow12...@yahoo.com (Timothy Chow)
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Subject: Don't make the 5pt
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 07:53:10 -0500
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 by: Timothy Chow - Tue, 8 Nov 2022 12:53 UTC

Because that would be illegal.

XGID=---BbAC-B---cE---c-eb--B--:0:0:1:54:0:0:0:0:10

Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O | | O O X |
| X O | | O O X |
| X O | | O |
| X | | O |
| X | | O |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | |
| O | | X |
| O X | | X O X |
| O X | | X X O X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 156 O: 145 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 54

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Tim Chow

Rollout: Don't make the 5pt

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From: tchow12...@yahoo.com (Timothy Chow)
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Subject: Rollout: Don't make the 5pt
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 07:44:49 -0500
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 by: Timothy Chow - Thu, 10 Nov 2022 12:44 UTC

XGID=---BbAC-B---cE---c-eb--B--:0:0:1:54:0:0:0:0:10

Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O | | O O X |
| X O | | O O X |
| X O | | O |
| X | | O |
| X | | O |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | |
| O | | X |
| O X | | X O X |
| O X | | X X O X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 156 O: 145 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 54

A fairly reliable rule is not to volunteer unnecessary shots in a
mutual holding game. However, the safe plays here dump behind O's
anchor and do not improve X's prospects for next turn. XG only
has eyes for the bold 13/9 13/8!

1. Rollout¹ 13/9 13/8 eq:-0.556
Player: 37.02% (G:8.63% B:0.35%)
Opponent: 62.98% (G:18.57% B:1.02%)
Confidence: ±0.015 (-0.571..-0.541) - [100.0%]

2. Rollout¹ 13/8 6/2 eq:-0.641 (-0.084)
Player: 34.94% (G:8.19% B:0.29%)
Opponent: 65.06% (G:18.58% B:1.04%)
Confidence: ±0.014 (-0.654..-0.627) - [0.0%]

3. Rollout¹ 6/1 5/1 eq:-0.655 (-0.099)
Player: 33.95% (G:8.07% B:0.21%)
Opponent: 66.05% (G:17.53% B:0.82%)
Confidence: ±0.015 (-0.670..-0.640) - [0.0%]

4. Rollout¹ 13/8 5/1 eq:-0.662 (-0.106)
Player: 33.79% (G:7.73% B:0.21%)
Opponent: 66.21% (G:17.17% B:0.79%)
Confidence: ±0.014 (-0.676..-0.648) - [0.0%]

¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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Tim Chow

Re: Rollout: Don't make the 5pt

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Subject: Re: Rollout: Don't make the 5pt
From: bananabo...@gmail.com (Stick Rice)
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 by: Stick Rice - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 20:21 UTC

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 7:44:51 AM UTC-5, Tim Chow wrote:
> XGID=---BbAC-B---cE---c-eb--B--:0:0:1:54:0:0:0:0:10
>
> Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
> +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
> | X O | | O O X |
> | X O | | O O X |
> | X O | | O |
> | X | | O |
> | X | | O |
> | |BAR| |
> | | | |
> | | | |
> | O | | X |
> | O X | | X O X |
> | O X | | X X O X |
> +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
> Pip count X: 156 O: 145 X-O: 0-0
> Cube: 1
> X to play 54
> A fairly reliable rule is not to volunteer unnecessary shots in a
> mutual holding game. However, the safe plays here dump behind O's
> anchor and do not improve X's prospects for next turn. XG only
> has eyes for the bold 13/9 13/8!
>
> 1. Rollout¹ 13/9 13/8 eq:-0.556
> Player: 37.02% (G:8.63% B:0.35%)
> Opponent: 62.98% (G:18.57% B:1.02%)
> Confidence: ±0.015 (-0.571..-0.541) - [100.0%]
>
> 2. Rollout¹ 13/8 6/2 eq:-0.641 (-0.084)
> Player: 34.94% (G:8.19% B:0.29%)
> Opponent: 65.06% (G:18.58% B:1.04%)
> Confidence: ±0.014 (-0.654..-0.627) - [0.0%]
>
> 3. Rollout¹ 6/1 5/1 eq:-0.655 (-0.099)
> Player: 33.95% (G:8.07% B:0.21%)
> Opponent: 66.05% (G:17.53% B:0.82%)
> Confidence: ±0.015 (-0.670..-0.640) - [0.0%]
>
> 4. Rollout¹ 13/8 5/1 eq:-0.662 (-0.106)
> Player: 33.79% (G:7.73% B:0.21%)
> Opponent: 66.21% (G:17.17% B:0.79%)
> Confidence: ±0.014 (-0.676..-0.648) - [0.0%]
>
> ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
> Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
>
> eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release
>
> ---
> Tim Chow

This is not a mutual holding game.

Stick

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