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* (Somewhat) early-game playTimothy Chow
`* Re: (Somewhat) early-game playah...Clem
 `- Rollout: (Somewhat) early-game playTimothy Chow

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(Somewhat) early-game play

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From: tchow12...@yahoo.com (Timothy Chow)
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Subject: (Somewhat) early-game play
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 10:00:11 -0500
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 by: Timothy Chow - Wed, 16 Nov 2022 15:00 UTC

XGID=---a--EbD-A-cBa--b-bbb-BA-:1:1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O O X X |
| X O | | O O O X |
| | | |
| | | |
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| |BAR| |
| | | X |
| X | | X |
| O X | | X | +---+
| O X O | | X | | 2 |
| O X X O | | X O | +---+
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 168 O: 154 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 2, X own cube
X to play 41

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Tim Chow

Re: (Somewhat) early-game play

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From: ah_c...@ymail.com (ah...Clem)
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Subject: Re: (Somewhat) early-game play
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 by: ah...Clem - Wed, 16 Nov 2022 21:33 UTC

On 11/16/2022 10:00 AM, Timothy Chow wrote:
> XGID=---a--EbD-A-cBa--b-bbb-BA-:1:1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10
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> Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
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>  |                  |   |                  |
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> Pip count  X: 168  O: 154 X-O: 0-0
> Cube: 2, X own cube
> X to play 41

I think I want to keep the midpoint. I'd like to leave the runners split
so as to give more escaping rolls, so I guess that leaves either
slotting the five point or hitting loose on the three. Slotting looks
more thematic, so I'll do that.

10/5.

Rollout: (Somewhat) early-game play

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From: tchow12...@yahoo.com (Timothy Chow)
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Subject: Rollout: (Somewhat) early-game play
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 by: Timothy Chow - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 13:43 UTC

On 11/16/2022 4:33 PM, ah...Clem wrote:
> I think I want to keep the midpoint. I'd like to leave the runners split
> so as to give more escaping rolls, so I guess that leaves either
> slotting the five point or hitting loose on the three. Slotting looks
> more thematic, so I'll do that.

The reasoning above by ah...Clem is good, but unfortunately he missed a
candidate play that satisfies his criteria.

XGID=---a--EbD-A-cBa--b-bbb-BA-:1:1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O O X X |
| X O | | O O O X |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| |BAR| |
| | | X |
| X | | X |
| O X | | X | +---+
| O X O | | X | | 2 |
| O X X O | | X O | +---+
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 168 O: 154 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 2, X own cube
X to play 41

1. Rollout¹ 23/22 10/6 eq:-0.521
Player: 28.16% (G:6.41% B:0.22%)
Opponent: 71.84% (G:23.80% B:1.34%)
Confidence: ±0.009 (-0.530..-0.511) - [100.0%]

2. Rollout¹ 10/5 eq:-0.622 (-0.101)
Player: 25.34% (G:5.38% B:0.22%)
Opponent: 74.66% (G:26.15% B:1.68%)
Confidence: ±0.010 (-0.632..-0.612) - [0.0%]

3. Rollout¹ 8/3* eq:-0.659 (-0.138)
Player: 25.99% (G:5.64% B:0.27%)
Opponent: 74.01% (G:31.24% B:2.40%)
Confidence: ±0.011 (-0.670..-0.648) - [0.0%]

¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 271828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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Tim Chow

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