In my thread "Need help with gamblegammon formulas/calculations",

On November 19, 2022 at 9:32:07 AM UTC+1, Axel Reichert wrote:

> MK <mu...@compuplus.net> writes:

>> if there was as much cube skill as hyped, random
>> cube player could not achieve a 15% win rate...

> Try to estimate how often a game will be played to
> conclusion and then think about what this amounts
> to with equal checker play. No surprise here.

And I had asked Axel some questions in my reply post:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/AwI9RYDHLcs/m/2pmWWudFBgAJ

In my other thread "My experiment to compare checker skill vs cube skill in gamblegammon",

On November 16, 2022 at 3:45:15 PM UTC+1, Tim Chow wrote:

> On 11/16/2022 3:18 AM, MK wrote:

>> Scenario 3: grandmaster vs random checker + grandmaster cube.
>> After 500 games: gnubg = 1462, mutant = 4 points

>> Scenario 4: grandmaster vs grandmaster checker + random cube.
>> After 503 games: gnubg = 2136, mutant = 873 points

> If you found these results surprising then you have a
> long way to go before you achieve any understanding
> of this topic. Your results are completely in line with
> what the conventional wisdom would predict.

And I had asked Tim some questions in my reply post:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/i53IQfeJ_iE/m/UW_7Fc8NBgAJ

Neither one of you have yet posted any answers to my
questions even though you have been posting in other
threads.

I wonder if you may be ailing from math constipation..? ;)

If you were the PHD chiefs of some mathematician tribes,
you would be the feathered, beaded, "Shitting Bull"s... :)

Come on you two, measure up! Or, have the courage to
jump over the fence to my side and concede already... ;)

MK

On Thursday, 24 November 2022 at 00:01:12 UTC, MK wrote:
> In my thread "Need help with gamblegammon formulas/calculations",
>
> On November 19, 2022 at 9:32:07 AM UTC+1, Axel Reichert wrote:
>
> > MK <mu...@compuplus.net> writes:
>
> >> if there was as much cube skill as hyped, random
> >> cube player could not achieve a 15% win rate...
>
> > Try to estimate how often a game will be played to
> > conclusion and then think about what this amounts
> > to with equal checker play. No surprise here.
>
> And I had asked Axel some questions in my reply post:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/AwI9RYDHLcs/m/2pmWWudFBgAJ
>
> In my other thread "My experiment to compare checker skill vs cube skill in gamblegammon",
>
> On November 16, 2022 at 3:45:15 PM UTC+1, Tim Chow wrote:
>
> > On 11/16/2022 3:18 AM, MK wrote:
>
> >> Scenario 3: grandmaster vs random checker + grandmaster cube.
> >> After 500 games: gnubg = 1462, mutant = 4 points
>
> >> Scenario 4: grandmaster vs grandmaster checker + random cube.
> >> After 503 games: gnubg = 2136, mutant = 873 points
>
> > If you found these results surprising then you have a
> > long way to go before you achieve any understanding
> > of this topic. Your results are completely in line with
> > what the conventional wisdom would predict.
>
> And I had asked Tim some questions in my reply post:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/i53IQfeJ_iE/m/UW_7Fc8NBgAJ
>
> Neither one of you have yet posted any answers to my
> questions even though you have been posting in other
> threads.
>
> I wonder if you may be ailing from math constipation..? ;)
>
> If you were the PHD chiefs of some mathematician tribes,
> you would be the feathered, beaded, "Shitting Bull"s... :)
>
> Come on you two, measure up! Or, have the courage to
> jump over the fence to my side and concede already... ;)
>
> MK

In defence of Tim, he's heavily involved in some road race called "Gumball 3000" which takes place out in the remote bits of the Middle East and I suspect internet connectivity out there is a bit hit-and-miss.

Give him a chance to catch up once he finds a reliable connection.

On 11/24/2022 12:12 PM, Nasti Chestikov wrote:

(crap snipped)

Mathematicians are never constipated.

We know that no matter how difficult the problem may seem, we can always
work it out by hand with a pencil.

HTH. HAND.

--
Ah....Clem
The future is fun, the future is fair.

On 11/24/2022 12:12 PM, Nasti Chestikov wrote:
>
> In defence of Tim, he's heavily involved in some road race called "Gumball 3000" which takes place out in the remote bits of the Middle East and I suspect internet connectivity out there is a bit hit-and-miss.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

---
Tim Chow

On November 24, 2022 at 10:12:47 AM UTC-7, Nasti Chestikov wrote:

> On Thursday, 24 November 2022 at 00:01:12 UTC, MK wrote:

>> Neither one of you have yet posted any answers to my
>> questions even though you have been posting in other
> > threads.

>> I wonder if you may be ailing from math constipation..? ;)

>> If you were the PHD chiefs of some mathematician tribes,
>> you would be the feathered, beaded, "Shitting Bull"s... :)

>> Come on you two, measure up! Or, have the courage to
>> jump over the fence to my side and concede already... ;)

> In defence of Tim, he's heavily involved in some road
> race called "Gumball 3000" which takes place....

Nasti, do you realize that you are diluting and tainting
my threads with your garbage comments like this one
way more often that I can tolerate..? I can't tell anyone
what to or not to post but I hope you can understand
my growing irritated and frustrated also... :(

MK

On November 24, 2022 at 12:43:42 PM UTC-7, ah....Clem wrote:

> ....

(math bull crap snipped)

MK

On Friday, 25 November 2022 at 03:42:51 UTC, MK wrote:
>
> Nasti, do you realize that you are diluting and tainting
> my threads with your garbage comments like this one
> way more often that I can tolerate..? I can't tell anyone
> what to or not to post but I hope you can understand
> my growing irritated and frustrated also... :(
>
> MK

Apologies.

I will restrict my future contributions to discussions relating to bot dice and similar ilk.

On 11/25/2022 9:59 AM, Nasti Chestikov wrote:

> I will restrict my future contributions to discussions relating to bot dice and similar ilk.

Such as constitutional law?

---
Tim Chow

On 11/24/2022 10:42 PM, MK wrote:
> Nasti, do you realize that you are diluting and tainting
> my threads with your garbage comments like this one
> way more often that I can tolerate..? I can't tell anyone
> what to or not to post but I hope you can understand
> my growing irritated and frustrated also... :(

You have it backwards...it's the dummy who is supposed to
chastise the ventriloquist, not the other way around.

---
Tim Chow