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 by: gerard jud - Sat, 5 Nov 2022 14:26 UTC

US has nuclear weapons in the thousands while China has them in the hundreds.
US has passed a barbaric law to allow itself to nuke China preemptively while China still sticks to its ‘no first strike’ policy.
Besides the thousands of the US, there are more held by its allies of Britain, France and India. It’s only logical that China should increase the size of its nuclear arsenal. China should have a nuclear arsenal about the size of those of the US and its allies combined.

US urges China nuclear talks amid concerns over its rising capabilities alongside Russia threat | South China Morning Post (scmp.com)

US accuses Russia of preparing to nuke Ukraine. It and its allies seek China’s help to warn Russia against using nuke in Ukraine. Germany has recently achieved that.

Xi, Scholz warn against 'irresponsible' nuclear threats over Ukraine | Reuters

Do the US-and-allies expect Russia to not use its ultimate weapon when it is facing defeat in a war which may be followed by invasion, from its enemies? No amount of warnings is going to stop Russia from doing that. The sensible thing for the US-and-allies to do is to stop its proxy war with Russia in Ukraine.

US confronts China, Russia at UN over N Korean missile launches | Conflict News | Al Jazeera

N Korea is doing it in response to the threatening military exercises being held by US-and-allies in its vicinity. These exercises, carried out with advanced weapons from the US, present an existential threat to N Korea.

When India tests its missiles and boasts about how deep into China they can reach, the US never complains to the UN. It looks on and smiles with delight.

China should help N Korea to develop ICBMs which can reach the US mainland.

The above news are examples of how the US is using and abusing China to serve its own national interests.

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Subject: Re: China, US, Nuclear
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 by: stoney - Sat, 5 Nov 2022 19:25 UTC

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 10:26:44 PM UTC+8, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
> US has nuclear weapons in the thousands while China has them in the hundreds.
> US has passed a barbaric law to allow itself to nuke China preemptively while China still sticks to its ‘no first strike’ policy.
> Besides the thousands of the US, there are more held by its allies of Britain, France and India. It’s only logical that China should increase the size of its nuclear arsenal. China should have a nuclear arsenal about the size of those of the US and its allies combined.
>
> US urges China nuclear talks amid concerns over its rising capabilities alongside Russia threat | South China Morning Post (scmp.com)
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> US accuses Russia of preparing to nuke Ukraine. It and its allies seek China’s help to warn Russia against using nuke in Ukraine. Germany has recently achieved that.
>
> Xi, Scholz warn against 'irresponsible' nuclear threats over Ukraine | Reuters
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> Do the US-and-allies expect Russia to not use its ultimate weapon when it is facing defeat in a war which may be followed by invasion, from its enemies? No amount of warnings is going to stop Russia from doing that. The sensible thing for the US-and-allies to do is to stop its proxy war with Russia in Ukraine.
>
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> US confronts China, Russia at UN over N Korean missile launches | Conflict News | Al Jazeera
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> N Korea is doing it in response to the threatening military exercises being held by US-and-allies in its vicinity. These exercises, carried out with advanced weapons from the US, present an existential threat to N Korea.
>
> When India tests its missiles and boasts about how deep into China they can reach, the US never complains to the UN. It looks on and smiles with delight.
>
> China should help N Korea to develop ICBMs which can reach the US mainland.
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> The above news are examples of how the US is using and abusing China to serve its own national interests.

Needless to say, the ultimate is not only how much conventional weapons but also how much nuclear weapons to stockpile to enable a sustainable war for multiple wars and multi-years of wars, too. China is a big country to defend and protect itself and hence also has to have superior numbers of weapons to fight and sustain a projection war, too.

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Subject: Re: China, US, Nuclear
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 by: gerard jud - Tue, 13 Dec 2022 08:05 UTC

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:25:23 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 10:26:44 PM UTC+8, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
> > US has nuclear weapons in the thousands while China has them in the hundreds.
> > US has passed a barbaric law to allow itself to nuke China preemptively while China still sticks to its ‘no first strike’ policy.
> > Besides the thousands of the US, there are more held by its allies of Britain, France and India. It’s only logical that China should increase the size of its nuclear arsenal. China should have a nuclear arsenal about the size of those of the US and its allies combined.
> >
> > US urges China nuclear talks amid concerns over its rising capabilities alongside Russia threat | South China Morning Post (scmp.com)
> >
> >
> >
> > US accuses Russia of preparing to nuke Ukraine. It and its allies seek China’s help to warn Russia against using nuke in Ukraine. Germany has recently achieved that.
> >
> > Xi, Scholz warn against 'irresponsible' nuclear threats over Ukraine | Reuters
> >
> > Do the US-and-allies expect Russia to not use its ultimate weapon when it is facing defeat in a war which may be followed by invasion, from its enemies? No amount of warnings is going to stop Russia from doing that. The sensible thing for the US-and-allies to do is to stop its proxy war with Russia in Ukraine.
> >
> >
> >
> > US confronts China, Russia at UN over N Korean missile launches | Conflict News | Al Jazeera
> >
> > N Korea is doing it in response to the threatening military exercises being held by US-and-allies in its vicinity. These exercises, carried out with advanced weapons from the US, present an existential threat to N Korea.
> >
> > When India tests its missiles and boasts about how deep into China they can reach, the US never complains to the UN. It looks on and smiles with delight.
> >
> > China should help N Korea to develop ICBMs which can reach the US mainland.
> >
> >
> >
> > The above news are examples of how the US is using and abusing China to serve its own national interests.
> Needless to say, the ultimate is not only how much conventional weapons but also how much nuclear weapons to stockpile to enable a sustainable war for multiple wars and multi-years of wars, too. China is a big country to defend and protect itself and hence also has to have superior numbers of weapons to fight and sustain a projection war, too.

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/11/china-to-obtain-1500-nuclear-warheads-by-2035-pentagon-estimates/

That's too damned slow. How many would the US and its nuclear-powered allies have by then, assuming China is not nuked by then.

The US has a law to allow itself to carry out a preemptive nuclear strike against China. This means anytime, without any warning whatsoever. China dare not to even counter this with a similar law of its own knowing that that would be ridiculed because the disparity in number is so big that a Chinese preemptive strike on the US would be suicidal for China.

China should, and must, increase its nuclear strike capability as soon as possible by as much as possible.

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