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by: peps...@gmail.com - Sat, 22 Apr 2023 19:58 UTC

In top-level chess, grandmasters often get high praise for playing large
numbers of consecutive games without defeat. Of course, given both
the lack of draws and the high chance factor in backgammon, no one expects
top backgammon players to stave off defeat for long.
But I think there is a similar question that we can ask: How often can top
backgammon players get through a whole match without making a single
error that is 0.1 or worse? Are there any records in this domain?
Since this is very highly related to PR, presumably such records are held
by Mochy?

Paul

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by: Frank Berger - Sat, 22 Apr 2023 20:18 UTC

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by: Timothy Chow - Sun, 23 Apr 2023 11:38 UTC

On 4/22/2023 3:58 PM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
> But I think there is a similar question that we can ask: How often can top
> backgammon players get through a whole match without making a single
> error that is 0.1 or worse? Are there any records in this domain?

I don't think that anybody keeps track of this sort of thing.
It's not sufficiently different from PR to be that interesting.

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Tim Chow

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by: MK - Sun, 30 Apr 2023 10:03 UTC

On April 22, 2023 at 1:58:16 PM UTC-6, peps...@gmail.com wrote:

> ... chess, grandmasters ... large numbers of
> consecutive games without defeat. ... given
> both the lack of draws and the high chance
> factor in backgammon, no one expects top
> backgammon players to stave off defeat for
> long. ... similar question: How often can top
> backgammon players get through a whole
> match without making a single error that is
> 0.1 or worse?

This is worse than comparing apples and
oranges. All mistakes are made in the past.
In a game of strategy like chess, there are
no errors. Only the outcomes matter.

Assuming that by saying backgammon you
are referring to gamblegammon played with
the cube that further magnifies luck, errors
during the game can only exist one accepts
that there is no strategy in gamblegammon.

If one argues that there is room for strategy
in gamblegammon, a decision may become
an error retroactively only if the strategy fails.

Also, when even "celebrating" backgammon
players would really be celebrating the lucky
ones, what would be the reason for people
to celebrate the lucky ones among a handful
mentally ill gamblegammon player gamblers?

Beggars should be no choosers. -- John Heywood

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Celebrating backgammon players like chess players	peps...@gmail.com
Re: Celebrating backgammon players like chess players	Frank Berger
Re: Celebrating backgammon players like chess players	Timothy Chow
Re: Celebrating backgammon players like chess players	MK