Chaim Handler
Oct 20
Why do some people think that Israel has a right over Palestine?

In Rome there is a monument erected in the year 80 called the “Arch of
Titus”. It commemorates the Roman conquest of a land known as Judea,
which subsequently became the Roman province by the same name, until, 65
years later, it was combined with Syria into the Roman province “Syria
Palestina”. Palestine is JUDEA and Judea was taken from the JEWS by the
Romans.

The only people of consequence who thought that the Jews had a right to
Palestine were those who belonged to the League of Nations in the
1920’s. They were the people who thought Mesopotamia should belong to
the people who had lived under Ottoman imperial rule until the first
World War within the geographical confines the League defined as Iraq.
They were the people who thought Syria should belong to the people who
had lived under Ottoman imperial rule until the first World War within
the geographical confines the League defined as Syria. They were the
people who thought Lebanon should belong to the people who had lived
under Ottoman imperial rule until the first World War within the
geographical confines the League defined as Lebanon.

And they were the people who thought Palestine should belong to the
people who descended from the nation that lived in the Kingdom of Judea
and whose land was subjugated, first under Roman imperial rule, and
subsequently by the Islamic Caliphates, the Crusades, and Ottoman
Empire. They said as much quite explicitly in a legal document called
the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine, the very document that
created the entity (not a country nor a State but merely a Mandate) that
existed from 1923 to 1948 and was known as Mandatory Palestine.

You may disagree with what the League of Nations decreed a century ago,
just as I disagree with what Rome did 1,951 years ago. Disagreeing with
historical reality is pointless. The Arabs disagreed with the Mandate
and they did something about it. They carried out violent riots and
massacred Jews in Palestine at every opportunity from 1920 through 1948
in the hopes that they could prevent the inevitable establishment of the
Jewish national home. Then on May 15, 1948 their allies, the Egyptians,
Transjordanians, Syrians, Iraqis, and Lebanese sent their armies to
obliterate the State of Israel, proclaimed less than a day earlier.
Their combined military might couldn’t stop the Jews from
re-establishing their country.

Now, 73 years later, there are many people like yourself claiming that
the Jews don’t have a right to their ancestral homeland. Well, go on,
enjoy your sanctimonious hate-fest against myself and my people. We have
exercised our rights and are a free and independent nation again as we
had been in the past, and we could care less if that fact is unpopular
with those who think that the so called “Palestinians” have a “right
over Judea”.

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David Nathanson
· November 2
You said that “Disagreeing with reality is pointless.” That is the
point. Indeed, it is the only point to be made. Israel is a reality. It
is here to stay. Whether it has a “right” to exist is now irrelevant. It
exists.

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Doug Ribot
· Sun
and it does have a right to exist.

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Jase M
· December 28
We all have a right to a home, glad you guys have got yours. I like what
you’ve done with the place and admire the scientific contributions
Israel has given the world. May Israel live forever.

Shachy Cohn
· November 9
VERY well articulated Chaim!

More power to you & G-d bless!

Here's a rather lengthy explanation by Dr. Mordechai Keidar regarding
the origins of the invented nation of the “Palestinians” invaders,
looters and terrorists:

It's in Hevrew and yet to have subtitles in English.

Enlightening overview.

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Julea Bacall
· October 30
What I ask is Why people think Israel is Arab? And by the way, the
Greeks ruled even before Rome. They made Greek the official language.
They heard Yisra in Hebrew means struggle or wrestle, as in Jacob who
wrestled EL. So the Greek word for wrestle is Palestes. “ine” in Greek
means ‘followers of’. So the Greeks wanted to call Israel, Palestine and
Greeks wrote all the oldest histories, maps etc for the West, who all
read Greek. The WEST called Israel and Canaan Palestine using
Greek.You’d be surprised how many Greek words we still us today like
Gym, Democracy and so many more, Canaanites were not Arab but a few
Arabs invaded about 700AD and more followed. Later. Arabs always wanted
the regions ruled by the Ottoman so helped Brits, France, Russia expel
them. Only Transjordan was assigned to Arab Hashemites. Still they covet
the whole thing. So the people called Palestinian, since Arafat knew the
West used that name for Israel (it is not Arab, not Canaanite, not any
tribe or language other than what the West used) think they will be
Heroes of Islam if they can wipe Israel out. Iran same way. Its for
Supremacy of their religion.

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David Kolinsky
· November 3
The Greek word for Wrestle is “paleyo” παλεύω. The word Palestine comes
from P’LiShTyM (פְּלִשְׁתִּ֔ים) which was the Hebrew name for Greek
colonists from about 12th century BCE until 604 BCE on the southern
coast of what is now Israel.

It is believed that this word came from the Semitic root PaLaSh (פלש)
meaning “invader.” While in Syriac (Aramaic), the root means “to break
through, dig through a wall, pierce, undermine, force into, fathom;
violation” and in Akkadian in means “perforate, make a breach, bore;” it
literally means “to go back and forth or from end to end” hence: extent
(of a cloud)(Ek27:30), and to wallow (Jr6:26) in Hebrew.

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Yaakov Bar-Nahman
· November 4
BTW you forgot to mention that the Jews gave up 78% of the Mandate land
that ad been promised to us for the sake of peace. THE ORIGINAL 2 STATE
SOLUTION was to give that 78% east of the Jordan river to the Arabs to
establish a newly invented, never before existed Muslim Arab State of
Palestine. It was established as a free sovereign state even a few years
before Israel.

It’s called Jordan. THAT is THE only legitimate Arab/Muslim Palestine
state, and it was given to them by Jews in exchange for a promise of
peace. Yet that very state was a part of the genocidal army that
ILLEGALLY attacked Israel the day it was reborn. That very 2 state
solution state ILLEGALLY VIOLENTLY STOLE THE WEST BANK & EAST JERUSALEM
FROM THE JEWISH STATE of Israel and committed ethnic cleansing there as
well. THAT VERY 2 STATE SOLUTION STATE ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED those region
for 19 years and kept the refugees that they created in squalid
concentration camps to use them as propaganda.

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Christina Aldridge
· 19h ago
Might makes right. And the loser is always a whiner. And nature is
bloody and raw and without justice.

Man is subject to nature. And his-story is long.

Muhib Omar
· December 14
i don’t think disagreeing is pointless. Or else you could have told that
to the jews before the mandate was established. Also the question was
referring to palestine. Questioning that palestine maybe has a right to
exist on their own is not negating the right to exist of israel. It’s
even weird that one has to point that out. Imagine germans saying that
the right of poland to exist is threatening german existence and that
they are here to stay. Sure stay, but within some borders lol. That’s as
far as I can tell all the international community wants from israel. to
define finally some borders and just stay within them. That palestine
should be established within some borders and that the non-jewish
population that has made up the majority on that land longer than the
jews when counting from the conquest of canaan to the Roman expulsion
(13 th century bc to say 130 ad vs well all the time from there to the
20th century and even today when counting the children of the refugees
and refugees) should not be thrown into the sea. If those two things are
too much for those sensitive people online that’s I think telling more
of them than of either history or israel or palestine. If people here
seriously want the whole mandates territory to be israel well alright.
Naturalisation of palestinians should be a given though then. A jewish
state with non-jewish majority could have been established anywhere
though but if that is their wish, so be it.

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Eliyahu Skoczylas
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“Questioning that palestine maybe has a right to exist on their own is
not negating the right to exist of israel. It’s even weird that one has
to point that out.”

The problem is that the PLO and Hamas both insist that Palestine is the
entire territory of Israel so that they do not agree that both can exist.