Not really on-topic for s.h.m but as this has become something of a general history group here on Usenet, I thought it still might be interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Man_(archaic_human)

Dragon Man (Homo longi) or (Homo Nesher) is an extinct species of archaic human identified from a nearly complete skull in Harbin, Heilongjiang, on the Northeast China Plain, dating to at minimum 146,000 years ago during the Middle Pleistocene.

The skull was discovered in 1933 along an under-construction bridge of Manchukuo National Railway and finally brought to archaeologists in 2018. Those archaeologists considered modern humans to be more closely related to H. longi than to the European Neanderthals, which may force a revision of the current scientific consensus.

H. longi is broadly anatomically similar to other Middle Pleistocene Chinese specimens, and potentially represents the enigmatic Denisovans, though this is unconfirmed. Like other archaic humans, the skull is low and long, with massively inflated brow ridges, wide eye sockets, and a large mouth. The skull is the longest ever found from any human species. Like modern humans, the face is rather flat, but the nose was rather large. The brain volume was 1,420 cc, within the range of modern humans and Neanderthals.

The Harbin individual inhabited a cold, steppeland environment alongside the woolly mammoth, giant deer, Przewalski's horse, elk, buffalo, and brown bear.

On 6/28/2021 6:07 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> Not really on-topic for s.h.m but as this has become something of a general history group here on Usenet, I thought it still might be interesting.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Man_(archaic_human)
>
> Dragon Man (Homo longi) or (Homo Nesher) is an extinct species of archaic human identified from a nearly complete skull in Harbin, Heilongjiang, on the Northeast China Plain, dating to at minimum 146,000 years ago during the Middle Pleistocene.
>
> The skull was discovered in 1933 along an under-construction bridge of Manchukuo National Railway and finally brought to archaeologists in 2018. Those archaeologists considered modern humans to be more closely related to H. longi than to the European Neanderthals, which may force a revision of the current scientific consensus.
>
> H. longi is broadly anatomically similar to other Middle Pleistocene Chinese specimens, and potentially represents the enigmatic Denisovans, though this is unconfirmed. Like other archaic humans, the skull is low and long, with massively inflated brow ridges, wide eye sockets, and a large mouth. The skull is the longest ever found from any human species. Like modern humans, the face is rather flat, but the nose was rather large. The brain volume was 1,420 cc, within the range of modern humans and Neanderthals.
>
> The Harbin individual inhabited a cold, steppeland environment alongside the woolly mammoth, giant deer, Przewalski's horse, elk, buffalo, and brown bear.
>

It's a topic I'm interested in.

Sadly, after 90 years, it will be tough to get
much more of the matching bones. Probably
a lot of real rough guesses will still be made.
We have thousands of pieces of Neanderthal bones
from dozens of different areas, and still huge
questions remain.

By the way, in an unusual twist, one of the books
I'm currently reading is "Neanderthal, Their time has come",
by John Dalton.
Hmm, maybe recognized title is shorter.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/232562.Neanderthal

Hmm,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OICOI4U/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

has a "look inside" feature, so you could read
some of it.

Dr. Susan Arnot's lecture (in real book it starts
on page 8) is interesting and informative.

On 6/30/2021 8:01 AM, a425couple wrote:
> On 6/28/2021 6:07 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> Not really on-topic for s.h.m but as this has become something of a
>> general history group here on Usenet, I thought it still might be
>> interesting.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Man_(archaic_human)
>>
>> Dragon Man (Homo longi) or (Homo Nesher) is an extinct species of
>> archaic human identified from a nearly complete skull in Harbin,
>> Heilongjiang, on the Northeast China Plain, dating to at minimum
>> 146,000 years ago during the Middle Pleistocene.
>>
>> The skull was discovered in 1933 along an under-construction bridge of
>> Manchukuo National Railway and finally brought to archaeologists in
>> 2018. Those archaeologists considered modern humans to be more closely
>> related to H. longi than to the European Neanderthals, which may force
>> a revision of the current scientific consensus.
>>
>> H. longi is broadly anatomically similar to other Middle Pleistocene
>> Chinese specimens, and potentially represents the enigmatic
>> Denisovans, though this is unconfirmed. Like other archaic humans, the
>> skull is low and long, with massively inflated brow ridges, wide eye
>> sockets, and a large mouth. The skull is the longest ever found from
>> any human species. Like modern humans, the face is rather flat, but
>> the nose was rather large. The brain volume was 1,420 cc, within the
>> range of modern humans and Neanderthals.
>>
>> The Harbin individual inhabited a cold, steppeland environment
>> alongside the woolly mammoth, giant deer, Przewalski's horse, elk,
>> buffalo, and brown bear.
>>
>
> It's a topic I'm interested in.
>
> Sadly, after 90 years, it will be tough to get
> much more of the matching bones.  Probably
> a lot of real rough guesses will still be made.
> We have thousands of pieces of Neanderthal bones
> from dozens of different areas, and still huge
> questions remain.
>
> By the way, in an unusual twist, one of the books
> I'm currently reading is "Neanderthal, Their time has come",
> by John Dalton.
> Hmm, maybe recognized title is shorter.
>
> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/232562.Neanderthal
>
> Hmm,
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OICOI4U/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
>
>
> has a "look inside" feature, so you could read
> some of it.
>
> Dr. Susan Arnot's lecture (in real book it starts
> on page 8) is interesting and informative.
>
Here, there is a 'wiki" on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_(novel)

Meanwhile, we know Neanderthals gained much
by using fire and cooking. Here is a chuckle:

Are cats carnivores? (59 second video)

https://www.facebook.com/robert.i.gardner/videos/10165018954515332

"And, by the way, that's why cooked meat is better. Look at
the huge level of effort this poor kitty is expending and
not even getting a decent mouthful.🤔"