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* Break anchor or kill a checker?Timothy Chow
+- Re: Break anchor or kill a checker?ah....Clem
`- Rollout: Break anchor or kill a checker?Timothy Chow

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Break anchor or kill a checker?

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Subject: Break anchor or kill a checker?
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 by: Timothy Chow - Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:30 UTC

XGID=-B---CDBa---bBaa---dbbBb--:0:0:1:63:0:0:0:0:10

Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O O X O |
| X | | O O O X O |
| | | O |
| | | O |
| | | |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | X |
| | | X X |
| O X | | X X X |
| O O X | | X X X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 125 O: 110 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 63

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Tim Chow

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Subject: Re: Break anchor or kill a checker?
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 by: ah....Clem - Fri, 21 Jul 2023 20:46 UTC

On 7/21/2023 8:30 AM, Timothy Chow wrote:
> XGID=-B---CDBa---bBaa---dbbBb--:0:0:1:63:0:0:0:0:10
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> Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
>  +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
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>  | X                |   | O  O  O  X  O    |
>  |                  |   | O                |
>  |                  |   | O                |
>  |                  |   |                  |
>  |                  |BAR|                  |
>  |                  |   |                  |
>  |                  |   | X                |
>  |                  |   | X  X             |
>  | O              X |   | X  X           X |
>  | O           O  X |   | X  X           X |
>  +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
> Pip count  X: 125  O: 110 X-O: 0-0
> Cube: 1
> X to play 63

12 in the zone and 15 pips behind make me think running off the anchor
is the wrong idea. I'd play two down from the midpoint before that.
Fewer shots, keep the anchor to avoid gammons, and maintain contact
since behind in the race.

Is D better than burying one on the ace? Seems to be. If not hit, X is
in decent shape with a nice board and an anchor.

13/7 13/10.

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Ah....Clem
The future is fun, the future is fair.

Rollout: Break anchor or kill a checker?

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 by: Timothy Chow - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:03 UTC

XGID=-B---CDBa---bBaa---dbbBb--:0:0:1:63:0:0:0:0:10

Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O O X O |
| X | | O O O X O |
| | | O |
| | | O |
| | | |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | X |
| | | X X |
| O X | | X X X |
| O O X | | X X X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 125 O: 110 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 63

I hate killing checkers so I tried 22/13 here. XG hates it. But
see the variant for what happens if we shift O's checkers on her
2pt to her 1pt.

1. Rollout¹ 7/1 6/3 eq:-0.788
Player: 28.04% (G:2.01% B:0.05%)
Opponent: 71.96% (G:7.23% B:0.33%)
Confidence: ±0.010 (-0.798..-0.778) - [100.0%]

2. Rollout¹ 7/4 7/1 eq:-0.819 (-0.030)
Player: 27.48% (G:1.96% B:0.04%)
Opponent: 72.52% (G:7.51% B:0.26%)
Confidence: ±0.012 (-0.831..-0.806) - [0.0%]

3. Rollout¹ 7/1 5/2 eq:-0.833 (-0.045)
Player: 26.93% (G:1.64% B:0.03%)
Opponent: 73.07% (G:6.30% B:0.30%)
Confidence: ±0.010 (-0.843..-0.823) - [0.0%]

4. Rollout¹ 22/13 eq:-0.897 (-0.109)
Player: 28.38% (G:5.72% B:0.20%)
Opponent: 71.62% (G:17.14% B:0.20%)
Confidence: ±0.012 (-0.909..-0.885) - [0.0%]

¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 271828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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XGID=-B---CDBa---bBaa---dbbB-b-:1:1:1:63:0:0:0:0:10

Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O O X O |
| X | | O O O X O |
| | | O |
| | | O |
| | | |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | X |
| | | X X | +---+
| O X | | X X X | | 2 |
| O O X | | X X X | +---+
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 125 O: 108 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 2, X own cube
X to play 63

1. Rollout¹ 22/13 eq:-0.388
Player: 30.27% (G:5.45% B:0.18%)
Opponent: 69.73% (G:15.15% B:0.16%)
Confidence: ±0.006 (-0.394..-0.383) - [63.5%]

2. Rollout¹ 7/1 6/3 eq:-0.390 (-0.001)
Player: 28.20% (G:2.10% B:0.04%)
Opponent: 71.80% (G:7.43% B:0.34%)
Confidence: ±0.006 (-0.396..-0.384) - [36.5%]

3. Rollout¹ 7/4 7/1 eq:-0.401 (-0.013)
Player: 28.18% (G:2.26% B:0.05%)
Opponent: 71.82% (G:8.39% B:0.35%)
Confidence: ±0.006 (-0.407..-0.395) - [0.0%]

4. Rollout¹ 7/1 5/2 eq:-0.414 (-0.025)
Player: 27.22% (G:1.72% B:0.03%)
Opponent: 72.78% (G:6.94% B:0.33%)
Confidence: ±0.005 (-0.419..-0.409) - [0.0%]

5. Rollout¹ 13/10 13/7 eq:-0.458 (-0.070)
Player: 25.63% (G:2.05% B:0.05%)
Opponent: 74.37% (G:7.45% B:0.21%)
Confidence: ±0.005 (-0.464..-0.453) - [0.0%]

¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 271828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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Tim Chow

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