On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 01:39:16 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>The idea that children in school had "rights", and opinions which should
>be respected, is a relatively recent invention.

Wiki - The term in loco parentis, Latin for "in the place of a parent"
refers to the legal responsibility of a person or organization to take
on some of the functions and responsibilities of a parent.

I would suspect a parent would have to be consulted

On 07/04/22 05:46, lar3ryca wrote:
>
> I have a great nephew named Jake. When his mother told us the name, she
> was careful to inform us that his name was "just Jake". Anyone care to
> guess what we called him when we first saw him?

I knew someone who introduced himself as "Brendon with an O". Of course
we called him Brondan.

--
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Anonymous Reactionary scribbled something on Wednesday the 4/6/2022:
> Lewis wrote:
>> In message <20220405215947.13ed0dd9dd0fbded2a53e29a@127.0.0.1> Kerr-Mudd,
>> John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>> N B xpost added
>>
>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Deadnaming... good grief
>>
>> No, not good grief at all. Intentionally calling someone by the wrong
>> name is in all cases at the very least rude. In some cases it rises to a
>> much higher level than mere rudeness. This is one such case, as you are
>> explicitly targeting their identity and rejecting it.
>
> I refuse to play along so that some autogynephiliac can get his jollies
> at my expense, using me as a prop.
>
>> Insisting on calling Muhammad Ali "Cassius" is a similar kind of attack,
>> as it is rejecting not only his identity, but his religion. It's a
>> shitty thing to do, and only shitty people do it.
>
> Ali's request is reasonable. The demands of the autogynephiliacs are not
> reasonable.

Okay, Anny, just what you want.

/dps

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On 2022-04-06 20:23, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 07/04/22 05:46, lar3ryca wrote:
>>
>> I have a great nephew named Jake. When his mother told us the name, she
>> was careful to inform us that his name was "just Jake". Anyone care to
>> guess what we called him when we first saw him?
>
> I knew someone who introduced himself as "Brendon with an O". Of course
> we called him Brondan.

I saw a greeting card once that had a drawing of a woman with one large
eye in the middle of her face.

The caption read "Hi! I'm Cyndi with an eye.'

I have no recollection of the type of sentiment it was meant to convey.

On 07-Apr-22 1:49, JAB wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 01:39:16 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
>> The idea that children in school had "rights", and opinions which should
>> be respected, is a relatively recent invention.
>
> Wiki - The term in loco parentis, Latin for "in the place of a parent"
> refers to the legal responsibility of a person or organization to take
> on some of the functions and responsibilities of a parent.
>
> I would suspect a parent would have to be consulted

I read that to mean that you are younger than many of the regular
posters in aue.

As a child, if I went home and told my parents that a teacher had hit
me, I would have received another thump for having been disobedient.

I don't recommend this attitude, but it was pretty common at that time.

--
Sam Plusnet

* Anders D. Nygaard:

> Den 07-04-2022 kl. 00:28 skrev Quinn C:
> > [deadnaming] (XPost removed)
>> It's impolite to use a name that a person doesn't wish to be
>> addressed by, and even more impolite to use a wrong gender, that's it.
>
> Which is why I try not to use either of the two possible genders
> in myE when referring to you.

Thank you.

But it's a poor language that doesn't have words for parts of reality,
while I'm sure it has many words that don't even have a real referent
(unicorn etc.)
>> Insisting you know the gender, or profession, or religion of another
>> person better than the person themself makes you an ass.
>>
>> It's not really a new thing. People didn't ask for a birth certificate
>> or a pants-down before choosing a pronoun for someone in the past,
>> either. You guess from the overall appearance or you ask, and if
>> corrected, you adapt.
>
> And you make it harder for me to adapt than most people do by stating
> that I should not use either of the gendered pronouns available to me.
>
> I suppose that in your view pronoun usage progresses one funeral
> at a time (with apologies to Max Planck).

As I wrote in another post, singular they is a done deal in English.
Resistance is futile, as in people under 30, maybe even 40, it's
uncontroversial. So it's simply the older generation's decision whether
that adage applies or not.

--
Manche Dinge sind vorgeschrieben, weil man sie braucht, andere
braucht man nur, weil sie vorgeschrieben sind.
-- Helmut Richter in de.etc.sprache.deutsch

On 2022-04-05 14:59, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>
> N B xpost added
>
> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/30/2022 14:14, JAB wrote:
>>> Tucker Carlson refuses to delete the tweet that got his account
>>> locked, so he has been off twitter for 5 days and counting. Fox
>>> spokesperson says he will never delete it.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1508576590816497666
>>
>> "Carlson was commenting about the suspension of the Babylon Bee and
>> Charlie Kirk over respective tweets calling Rachel Levine, the assistant
>> secretary for health at the Department of Health and Human Services, a
>> male. Levine is a biological male but identifies as a transgender female.
>>
>> “But wait,” Carlson’s tweet said. “Both of these tweets are true.”
>>
>> Twitter deleted the tweet, and a spokesperson for the company said in a
>> statement to the Daily Wire that it had violated its terms of service.
>>
>> “We prohibit targeting others with repeated slurs, tropes or other
>> content that intends to dehumanize, degrade or reinforce negative or
>> harmful stereotypes about a protected category,” said the spokesman.
>> “This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender
>> individuals.”
>>
>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
>> their biological gender."
>>
>> ----------------------------
>>
>> Deadnaming... good grief, I guess I learned a new term today. Sorry,
>> but that fellow was born a man, regardless of what he/she/it internally
>> thinks. I don't care for the Carlson fellow, but I have to agree, I
>> wouldn't delete my message either.
>>
>> While I'm at it, the use of the word "they" as a pronoun for one single
>> person who disagrees with the gender they were born with *really*
>> bothers me. It's quite grammatically incorrect, as "they" is a plural.
>> Male or Female; it's a simple concept.
>>
>> Why is this just now an issue, and wasn't an issue for centuries prior?
>> People are just bizarre. Don't bring up the very small percentage of
>> people born with both biological parts, as that's a whole other case
>> beyond their control; and that isn't something new.
>
>
> New word here?
> I'd imagine Quinn might like to chip in on this.

Now you've done it, pretty soon we'll be seeing LCBTQ2SH+

In message <t2lbhu$13rte$1@news.mixmin.net> Anonymous Reactionary <anonymous@internet.everywhere> wrote:
> Lewis wrote:
>> In message <20220405215947.13ed0dd9dd0fbded2a53e29a@127.0.0.1> Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>> N B xpost added
>>
>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

>>>> Deadnaming... good grief
>>
>> No, not good grief at all. Intentionally calling someone by the wrong
>> name is in all cases at the very least rude. In some cases it rises to a
>> much higher level than mere rudeness. This is one such case, as you are
>> explicitly targeting their identity and rejecting it.

> I refuse to play along so that some autogynephiliac can get his jollies
> at my expense, using me as a prop.

You be you, but you sounds like an assshole.

>> Insisting on calling Muhammad Ali "Cassius" is a similar kind of attack,
>> as it is rejecting not only his identity, but his religion. It's a
>> shitty thing to do, and only shitty people do it.

> Ali's request is reasonable. The demands of the autogynephiliacs are not
> reasonable.

See above.

--
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In message <348s4h5q7sbv32i6lqvkc8gh850lmd8p9a@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:28:34 -0400, Quinn C
> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:

>>* Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>
>>> N B xpost added
>>>
>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
>>>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
>>>> their biological gender."
>>
>>"Biological gender" is an abomination.

> I agree. "Gender" is a word that refers to nouns and adjectives.
> There's nothing biological about nouns and adjectives.

You *really* need a newer dictionary.

gender | ˈdʒɛndə |
noun
1 either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered
with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological
ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities
that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female:

Please note, that is the FIRST definition. Grammar is #2.

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yeah?" but stopped, because just by his ear he heard a growl. It
was quite low and soft, but it had a complex little waveform
which went straight down into a little knobbly bit in his spinal
column where it pressed an ancient button marked Primal Terror."

On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 00:49:34 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>In message <348s4h5q7sbv32i6lqvkc8gh850lmd8p9a@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:28:34 -0400, Quinn C
>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>
>>>* Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>
>>>> N B xpost added
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
>>>>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
>>>>> their biological gender."
>>>
>>>"Biological gender" is an abomination.
>
>> I agree. "Gender" is a word that refers to nouns and adjectives.
>> There's nothing biological about nouns and adjectives.
>
>You *really* need a newer dictionary.

No. I dislike most new definitions of words, and that's one I
particularly dislike.

>gender | ?d??nd? |
>noun
>1 either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered
>with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological
>ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities
>that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female:
>
>Please note, that is the FIRST definition. Grammar is #2.

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 7:23:46 PM UTC-4, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:28:34 -0400, Quinn C
> <lispa...@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>
> >* Kerr-Mudd, John:
> >
> >> N B xpost added
> >>
> >> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
> >> Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
> >>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
> >>> their biological gender."
> >
> >"Biological gender" is an abomination.
>
> I agree. "Gender" is a word that refers to nouns and adjectives.
> There's nothing biological about nouns and adjectives.

And its resurrection-naming if the old gender is re-claimed?

In message <vsl05hp3kfks4llnmlfir5pt39mlsjm7od@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 00:49:34 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>>In message <348s4h5q7sbv32i6lqvkc8gh850lmd8p9a@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:28:34 -0400, Quinn C
>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>
>>>>* Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>>
>>>>> N B xpost added
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
>>>>>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
>>>>>> their biological gender."
>>>>
>>>>"Biological gender" is an abomination.
>>
>>> I agree. "Gender" is a word that refers to nouns and adjectives.
>>> There's nothing biological about nouns and adjectives.
>>
>>You *really* need a newer dictionary.

> No. I dislike most new definitions of words, and that's one I
> particularly dislike.

Ah, but it's not new. It being FIRST is new.

The use of gender to mean the physical sex goes back at least 500 years.

So, strike two?

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commenting.

On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 20:49:56 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>In message <vsl05hp3kfks4llnmlfir5pt39mlsjm7od@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 00:49:34 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
>> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>>In message <348s4h5q7sbv32i6lqvkc8gh850lmd8p9a@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:28:34 -0400, Quinn C
>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>* Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>>>
>>>>>> N B xpost added
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>>>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
>>>>>>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
>>>>>>> their biological gender."
>>>>>
>>>>>"Biological gender" is an abomination.
>>>
>>>> I agree. "Gender" is a word that refers to nouns and adjectives.
>>>> There's nothing biological about nouns and adjectives.
>>>
>>>You *really* need a newer dictionary.
>
>> No. I dislike most new definitions of words, and that's one I
>> particularly dislike.
>
>Ah, but it's not new. It being FIRST is new.
>
>The use of gender to mean the physical sex goes back at least 500 years.

Yes, but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter. In my experience,
that use of "gender" was very rare until relatively recently.
Regardless of the history of the word, when I was in school, "gender"
referred to nouns and adjectives, and the correct word for the
property of people (and other animals) is "sex."

Feel free to believe whatever you want, and use "gender" and sex" any
way you want. I'll continue to use them in what I consider to be the
correct way.

* Ken Blake:

> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 00:49:34 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>In message <348s4h5q7sbv32i6lqvkc8gh850lmd8p9a@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:28:34 -0400, Quinn C
>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>
>>>>* Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>>
>>>>> N B xpost added
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
>>>>>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
>>>>>> their biological gender."
>>>>
>>>>"Biological gender" is an abomination.
>>
>>> I agree. "Gender" is a word that refers to nouns and adjectives.
>>> There's nothing biological about nouns and adjectives.
>>
>>You *really* need a newer dictionary.
>
> No. I dislike most new definitions of words, and that's one I
> particularly dislike.

So you'd rather not understand what people are talking about?

The dictionary's purpose isn't to prescribe usage to you.

--
The seeds of new thought, sown in a ground that isn't prepared
to receive them, don't bear fruit.
-- Hedwig Dohm (1874), my translation

On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:51:25 -0400, Quinn C
<lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:

>* Ken Blake:
>
>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 00:49:34 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
>> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <348s4h5q7sbv32i6lqvkc8gh850lmd8p9a@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:28:34 -0400, Quinn C
>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>* Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>>>
>>>>>> N B xpost added
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>>>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
>>>>>>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
>>>>>>> their biological gender."
>>>>>
>>>>>"Biological gender" is an abomination.
>>>
>>>> I agree. "Gender" is a word that refers to nouns and adjectives.
>>>> There's nothing biological about nouns and adjectives.
>>>
>>>You *really* need a newer dictionary.
>>
>> No. I dislike most new definitions of words, and that's one I
>> particularly dislike.
>
>So you'd rather not understand what people are talking about?

I'll disregard such a silly comment.

In message <qqf15hdmh981oota15flbu4qtmne2j05bi@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:51:25 -0400, Quinn C
> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:

>>> No. I dislike most new definitions of words, and that's one I
>>> particularly dislike.
>>
>>So you'd rather not understand what people are talking about?

> I'll disregard such a silly comment.

It's not silly. You are rejecting the definition of gender because you
do not like it, so you are willfully choosing to misunderstand what is
meant, OR you understand perfectly and just want to complain about it
because you've decided it is "new".

It could make one think that your actual objection has nothing to do
with the word, but with the concept itself.

--
You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!

Ken Blake pounded on thar keyboard to tell us
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:51:25 -0400, Quinn C
> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>
>> * Ken Blake:
>>
>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 00:49:34 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
>>> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <348s4h5q7sbv32i6lqvkc8gh850lmd8p9a@4ax.com> Ken Blake
>>>> <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:28:34 -0400, Quinn C
>>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>>> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N B xpost added
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>>>>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
>>>>>>>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
>>>>>>>> their biological gender."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Biological gender" is an abomination.
>>>>> I agree. "Gender" is a word that refers to nouns and adjectives.
>>>>> There's nothing biological about nouns and adjectives.
>>>>
>>>> You *really* need a newer dictionary.
>>>
>>> No. I dislike most new definitions of words, and that's one I
>>> particularly dislike.
>>
>> So you'd rather not understand what people are talking about?
>
>
> I'll disregard such a silly comment.

No, really, ... if you won't have a dictionary that doesn't capture
somewhat current usage, how do you understand us kids on your lawn?

/dps

--
Yes, I have had a cucumber soda. Why do you ask?

On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:51:25 -0400, Quinn C
<lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:

>The dictionary's purpose isn't to prescribe usage to you.

Are you sure?

Henry VIII had defined the yard as the distance from his nose to the
tip of his outstretched hand. His daughter, Queen Elizabeth, rather
liked the Roman mile -- a distance of about 5000 English feet. But she
wanted it to be exactly eight English furlongs, so she standardized it
at 5280 feet.

https://www.uh.edu/engines/epi260.htm

On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 23:37:09 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>definition of gender

Corporations are "persons," so what gender are they?

On 09/04/2022 3:32 am, JAB wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 23:37:09 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> definition of gender
>
> Corporations are "persons," so what gender are they?
>

I don't know, but their preferred unpronounceable pronouns are
presumably ltd and plc.

--
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Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

Lo, on the 4/8/2022, JAB did proclaim ...
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:51:25 -0400, Quinn C
> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>
>> The dictionary's purpose isn't to prescribe usage to you.
>
> Are you sure?
>
> Henry VIII had defined the yard as the distance from his nose to the
> tip of his outstretched hand. His daughter, Queen Elizabeth, rather
> liked the Roman mile -- a distance of about 5000 English feet. But she
> wanted it to be exactly eight English furlongs, so she standardized it
> at 5280 feet.
>
> https://www.uh.edu/engines/epi260.htm

Those are edicts, not dictionaries.

/dps

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* Ken Blake:

> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:51:25 -0400, Quinn C
> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>
>>* Ken Blake:
>>
>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 00:49:34 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
>>> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message <348s4h5q7sbv32i6lqvkc8gh850lmd8p9a@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:28:34 -0400, Quinn C
>>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>* Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N B xpost added
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 10:42:47 -0400
>>>>>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Deadnaming" is when a transgender person is called by a name of the
>>>>>>>> gender they utilized before transitioning, or a name associated with
>>>>>>>> their biological gender."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Biological gender" is an abomination.
>>>>
>>>>> I agree. "Gender" is a word that refers to nouns and adjectives.
>>>>> There's nothing biological about nouns and adjectives.
>>>>
>>>>You *really* need a newer dictionary.
>>>
>>> No. I dislike most new definitions of words, and that's one I
>>> particularly dislike.
>>
>>So you'd rather not understand what people are talking about?
>
> I'll disregard such a silly comment.

Not buying a new dictionary because you dislike the new definitions is
so silly that I'd have a hard time topping it.

--
Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 9:46:05 PM UTC-4, JAB wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:51:25 -0400, Quinn C
> <lispa...@crommatograph.info> wrote:

> >The dictionary's purpose isn't to prescribe usage to you.
> Are you sure?
>
> Henry VIII had defined the yard as the distance from his nose to the
> tip of his outstretched hand. His daughter, Queen Elizabeth, rather
> liked the Roman mile -- a distance of about 5000 English feet. But she
> wanted it to be exactly eight English furlongs, so she standardized it
> at 5280 feet.
>
> https://www.uh.edu/engines/epi260.htm

That has something to do with dictionaries?

On 09-Apr-22 3:51, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 09/04/2022 3:32 am, JAB wrote:

>> Corporations are "persons," so what gender are they?
>>
>
> I don't know, but their preferred unpronounceable pronouns are
> presumably ltd and plc.
>
Much inc has been spilt over this topic.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 2022-04-09 15:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 09-Apr-22 3:51, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 09/04/2022 3:32 am, JAB wrote:
>
>>> Corporations are "persons," so what gender are they?
>>>
>>
>> I don't know, but their preferred unpronounceable pronouns are
>> presumably ltd and plc.
>>
> Much inc has been spilt over this topic.

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