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* Midge Decter, 94, neoconservative journalistLenona
`* Re: Midge Decter, 94, neoconservative journalistKenny McCormack
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 by: Lenona - Tue, 10 May 2022 12:45 UTC

Oddly, even Genarians hasn't mentioned this yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/neoconservative-leader-midge-decter-dead/2022/05/09/5fb61130-47fe-11e8-9072-f6d4bc32f223_story.html
(do read the whole obit - even Gore Vidal gets mentioned)

By Judi Hasson

Midge Decter, an intellectual leader of the neoconservative movement whose acerbic, stylishly written essays and books assailed Soviet communism as well as American liberalism, denouncing feminism and other progressive movements while calling for unwavering support for Israel, died May 9 at her home in Manhattan. She was 94.

Her daughter, Naomi Decter, confirmed the death but did not give a cause.

Mrs. Decter was the matriarch of a formidable neoconservative family that included her second husband, Norman Podhoretz, the longtime editor of Commentary magazine; their son John Podhoretz, a former speechwriter for President Ronald Reagan and now editor of Commentary; and son-in-law Elliott Abrams, who served in foreign policy positions in the Reagan and George W. Bush administrations.

Along with her husband and other New York-based intellectuals — including editor and essayist Irving Kristol and his wife, historian Gertrude Himmelfarb — Mrs. Decter was considered one of the founders of neoconservatism. The intellectual movement emerged in the 1960s out of the pages of Commentary, a previously liberal magazine founded by the American Jewish Committee.

Like many of her peers, Mrs. Decter was raised in a Jewish family of New Deal Democrats who grew disaffected by what she saw as an alarming tear in the American social fabric. Finding fault in welfare programs and moral relativism, she and other neoconservatives shifted rightward and became anti-communist hawks, championing a muscular foreign policy that saw peaks of influence during the Reagan White House and later under Bush.

In Commentary, a host of other magazines and several books, Mrs. Decter took aim at what she described as misguided social and political forces that were undermining traditional American culture and values in the face of a Soviet threat. Her targets included members of Students for a Democratic Society and other radical New Left thinkers, feminists and gay rights protesters, and militant activists of all stripes during and after the Vietnam era....

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/05/midge-decter-r-i-p/

By The Editors:

She was often called a “social critic.” You could also classify her as a writer, an editor, an activist — a force. In its obituary, the New York Times called her “an architect of neoconservatism.” She was part of a mighty foursome, composed of two married couples: Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter, and Irving Kristol and Gertrude Himmelfarb. These couples moved mountains, or at least nudged them in positive directions.

Midge Decter passed away on Monday at 94.

She was born Midge Rosenthal in 1927, in St. Paul, Minn. She wanted to go to the outstanding university in the Midwest: the University of Chicago. But her parents thought the University of Minnesota was good enough, and she attended that institution for a while. Then she did what she most wanted to do: move to New York and have a New York life. She never earned a college degree, but she was steeped in learning. Also, she was as natural in New York as the Empire State Building...

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/midge-decter-force-for-good/

By Yuval Levin

....The need to take responsibility for what was breaking down in our society was a theme to which she would recur for decades — refusing to let Americans get away with blaming the degradation of our culture on anyone but ourselves.

For me, perhaps the most powerful articulation of the point came in an extraordinary essay that was my first exposure to Decter — a piece called “A Jew in Anti-Christian America,” published in First Things in 1995, when I was a college freshman. It’s not her greatest or most lasting piece of writing, but it combines autobiography, social analysis, and startling insight in her characteristic “force for good” style. You should read it today. In it she argues, among other things, that the radicalism she had warned of in the ’70s had evolved into a combination of arrogance and nihilism that she described as the philosophy of “why not?” and “so what?”

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 by: Kenny McCormack - Tue, 10 May 2022 12:55 UTC

In article <00e3c5b8-9f76-4041-b396-a53a3e72dee0n@googlegroups.com>,
Lenona <lenona321@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Oddly, even Genarians hasn't mentioned this yet.
>
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/neoconservative-leader-midge-decter-dead/2022/05/09/5fb61130-47fe-11e8-9072-f6d4bc32f223_story.html
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>(do read the whole obit - even Gore Vidal gets mentioned)
>
>By Judi Hasson
>
>Midge Decter, an intellectual leader of the neoconservative movement whose
>acerbic, stylishly written essays and books assailed Soviet communism as well as
>American liberalism, denouncing feminism and other progressive movements while
>calling for unwavering support for Israel, died May 9 at her home in Manhattan.

Wow. Talk about being wrong about (absolutely) everything,,,

Again, the world is better off w/o her.

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 by: Lenona - Tue, 10 May 2022 17:13 UTC

And from the NY Times obit...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/09/books/midge-decter-dead.html

....She argued that the real revolution that allowed women to have careers was not the women’s movement but the availability of modern forms of birth control. To Ms. Decter, women had a biological destiny to be wives and mothers, and those who tried to escape it evinced self-hatred.

In her 1972 book, “The New Chastity and Other Arguments Against Women’s Liberation,” she wrote that women’s “true grievance” is not that they are “mistreated, discriminated against, oppressed, enslaved, but that they are — women.”

She offered a solution: Single women should remain chaste, because women are naturally monogamous. And withholding sex, she said, was a form of power over men...

(snip)

What's strange is that idea of "self-hatred."

I don't think I've EVER heard that before. Typically, the accusation is that women (or men) who don't want children are "selfish."

Somehow, the two accusations sound contradictory.

And we'll probably never have enough doctors or nurses, given that even nursing school is pretty grueling, from what I've heard. (Not to mention that nursing is pretty gross work, a lot of the time.) So, how is not "selfish" to refuse to go into those professions just because you don't want to?

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Forgot to say: if she was so traditional, why didn't she take her second husband's name as well?

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 by: Louis Epstein - Tue, 10 May 2022 22:05 UTC

Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <00e3c5b8-9f76-4041-b396-a53a3e72dee0n@googlegroups.com>,
> Lenona <lenona321@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Oddly, even Genarians hasn't mentioned this yet.
>>
>>https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/neoconservative-leader-midge-decter-dead/2022/05/09/5fb61130-47fe-11e8-9072-f6d4bc32f223_story.html
>>
>>(do read the whole obit - even Gore Vidal gets mentioned)
>>
>>By Judi Hasson
>>
>>Midge Decter, an intellectual leader of the neoconservative movement whose
>>acerbic, stylishly written essays and books assailed Soviet communism as well as
>>American liberalism, denouncing feminism and other progressive movements while
>>calling for unwavering support for Israel, died May 9 at her home in Manhattan.
>
> Wow. Talk about being wrong about (absolutely) everything,,,

So you admire Soviet communism?
(And at least since Eisenhower backed Nasser over Suez,
American support for Israel has never been unwavering ENOUGH).

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