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 by: ltlee1 - Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:39 UTC

On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 2:33:14 AM UTC-4, David P. wrote:
> 1. When is the Chinese Presidential Election?
> 2. When are the Chinese party candidate nominating conventions?
> 3. How many news agencies are covering the campaigns?
> --
> --
Why are these questions important?
If you have democracy on your mind, what is the linkage between
"democratic political system" and democracy?

For example, does the US "democratic political system" has the
consent of the governed?

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Subject: Re: 3 QUESTIONS: 1. When is the Chinese Presidential Election? ......
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 by: ltlee1 - Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:44 UTC

On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 2:11:37 AM UTC-4, David P. wrote:
> ltlee1 wrote:
> > David P. wrote:
> > > 1. When is the Chinese Presidential Election?
> > > 2. When are the Chinese party candidate nominating conventions?
> > > 3. How many news agencies are covering the campaigns?
> > > --
> > > --
> > Why are these questions important?
> > If you have democracy on your mind, what is the linkage between
> > "democratic political system" and democracy?
> >
> > For example, does the US "democratic political system" has the
> > consent of the governed?
> ----------------------
> Most of the people don't read a whole lot, so they're uninformed!
> So it's easy for the politicians to hoodwink them with flim flam!
> --
> --

Most of the people don't read a whole lot is ALWAYS TRUE.
Yet modern day free education and press still could not preclude politicians
from hoodwinking the people with flim flam. Are you suggesting "Democracy"
as preached in the West/America never truly exists?

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 by: ltlee1 - Thu, 29 Jun 2023 12:03 UTC

On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 1:27:08 PM UTC-4, David P. wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 8:44:19 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 2:11:37 AM UTC-4, David P. wrote:
> > > ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > David P. wrote:
> > > > > 1. When is the Chinese Presidential Election?
> > > > > 2. When are the Chinese party candidate nominating conventions?
> > > > > 3. How many news agencies are covering the campaigns?
> > > > > --
> > > > > --
> > > > Why are these questions important?
> > > > If you have democracy on your mind, what is the linkage between
> > > > "democratic political system" and democracy?
> > > >
> > > > For example, does the US "democratic political system" has the
> > > > consent of the governed?
> > > ----------------------
> > > Most of the people don't read a whole lot, so they're uninformed!
> > > So it's easy for the politicians to hoodwink them with flim flam!
> > > --
> > Most of the people don't read a whole lot is ALWAYS TRUE.
> > Yet modern day free education and press still could not preclude politicians
> > from hoodwinking the people with flim flam. Are you suggesting "Democracy"
> > as preached in the West/America never truly exists?
> -------------
> Every country is run by gangsters! That's why we keep having wars!
> --
> --
And your point about presidential election?
The following from your posts:
1. "Most of the people don't read a whole lot, so they're uninformed!
So it's easy for the politicians to hoodwink them with flim flam!"
2. "Every country is run by gangsters!"

1 + 2 ==> No democracy everywhere.

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 by: ltlee1 - Sun, 2 Jul 2023 15:39 UTC

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 8:03:49 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 1:27:08 PM UTC-4, David P. wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 8:44:19 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 2:11:37 AM UTC-4, David P. wrote:
> > > > ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > > David P. wrote:
> > > > > > 1. When is the Chinese Presidential Election?
> > > > > > 2. When are the Chinese party candidate nominating conventions?
> > > > > > 3. How many news agencies are covering the campaigns?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > Why are these questions important?
> > > > > If you have democracy on your mind, what is the linkage between
> > > > > "democratic political system" and democracy?
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, does the US "democratic political system" has the
> > > > > consent of the governed?
> > > > ----------------------
> > > > Most of the people don't read a whole lot, so they're uninformed!
> > > > So it's easy for the politicians to hoodwink them with flim flam!
> > > > --
> > > Most of the people don't read a whole lot is ALWAYS TRUE.
> > > Yet modern day free education and press still could not preclude politicians
> > > from hoodwinking the people with flim flam. Are you suggesting "Democracy"
> > > as preached in the West/America never truly exists?
> > -------------
> > Every country is run by gangsters! That's why we keep having wars!
> > --
> > --
> And your point about presidential election?
> The following from your posts:
> 1. "Most of the people don't read a whole lot, so they're uninformed!
> So it's easy for the politicians to hoodwink them with flim flam!"
> 2. "Every country is run by gangsters!"
>
> 1 + 2 ==> No democracy everywhere.

It is going to far to say every country is run by gangsters. At the same time,
many Western countries seem to believe ritualistic voting as necessary
and sufficient for democracy for them. But not for other countries which also
have ritualistic voting. For example, the US holds itself as the paragon of
democratic but consider Russia autocratic. In reality, it is democracy by faith
plus a large dose of "holier than thou" and/or ethnic superiority.

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