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* CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
+* Re: CRT in math testbooksspains...@gmail.com
|`* Re: CRT in math testbooksKerr-Mudd, John
| `- Re: CRT in math testbooksQuinn C
+* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
|`- Re: CRT in math testbooksAdam Funk
+* Re: CRT in math testbooksTony Cooper
|+* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
||+* Re: CRT in math testbooksLewis
|||`* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
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||| |`- Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
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||| | `* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
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||| |   |  |`- Re: CRT in math testbooksTony Cooper
||| |   |  `* Re: CRT in math testbooksSnidely
||| |   |   `* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
||| |   |    `* Re: CRT in math testbooksTony Cooper
||| |   |     `* Re: CRT in math testbooksRuud Harmsen
||| |   |      +* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
||| |   |      |`* Re: CRT in math testbooksAdam Funk
||| |   |      | +* Re: CRT in math testbooksQuinn C
||| |   |      | |`* Re: CRT in math testbooksRuud Harmsen
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||| |   |      | | `- Re: CRT in math testbooksQuinn C
||| |   |      | `* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
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||| |   |      ||||  `* Re: CRT in math testbooksTony Cooper
||| |   |      ||||   `- Re: CRT in math testbooksRich Ulrich
||| |   |      |||`* Re: CRT in math testbooksQuinn C
||| |   |      ||| +* Re: CRT in math testbooksbil...@shaw.ca
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||| |   |      ||| | +* Re: CRT in math testbooksCDB
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||| |   |      ||| | ||`- Re: CRT in math testbooksCDB
||| |   |      ||| | |`* Re: CRT in math testbooksMark Brader
||| |   |      ||| | | `* Re: CRT in math testbooksCDB
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||| |   |      ||| | |   +- Re: CRT in math testbooksQuinn C
||| |   |      ||| | |   +* Re: CRT in math testbooksRuud Harmsen
||| |   |      ||| | |   |`- Re: CRT in math testbooksruudhar...@gmail.com
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||| |   |      ||| | |   |`* Re: CRT in math testbooksMark Brader
||| |   |      ||| | |   | `- Re: CRT in math testbooksCDB
||| |   |      ||| | |   `- Re: CRT in math testbooksJ. J. Lodder
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||| |   |      ||| `* Re: CRT in math testbooksAdam Funk
||| |   |      ||+* Re: CRT in math testbooksRuud Harmsen
||| |   |      ||`* Re: CRT in math testbooksSam Plusnet
||| |   |      |`- Re: CRT in math testbooksRuud Harmsen
||| |   |      +* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
||| |   |      `- Re: CRT in math testbooksTony Cooper
||| |   `* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
||| `* Re: CRT in math testbooksKen Blake
||`* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
|+- Re: CRT in math testbooksLewis
|+* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
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 by: Ruud Harmsen - Tue, 10 May 2022 05:58 UTC

Mon, 9 May 2022 19:31:33 +0100: Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> scribeva:

>On 09-May-22 12:10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
>> As you no doubt know, Dutch members of parliament
>> must give up their seats when becoming minister.
>
>Presumably their Parliamentary seat is then filled after a local election.

No, it's filled from the result list of the previous election. Someone
whose position in the list, and number of personal, preferential votes
was previously not enough to get a seat.

>If there is a subsequent cabinet reshuffle, does that mean the (now)
>ex-minister is left high and dry?

If they previously had a seat, they can retake it. But not everyone
does.

>Or are cabinet reshuffles less common in the Netherlands than here in
>the UK?

Can't judge that for lack of detailed insight in British politics.
--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

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 by: Ruud Harmsen - Tue, 10 May 2022 06:01 UTC

Mon, 9 May 2022 17:32:19 -0700 (PDT): "bil...@shaw.ca"
<billvan@shaw.ca> scribeva:

>On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:31:39 AM UTC-7, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 09-May-22 12:10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>> > As you no doubt know, Dutch members of parliament
>> > must give up their seats when becoming minister.
>
>> Presumably their Parliamentary seat is then filled after a local election.
>
>The last time I knew anything about it, the Dutch didn't have ridings
>or constituencies that British-style parliamentary systems have.
>The Dutch had -- and probably still have -- a proportional system.

Thats right.

>Your
>party gets 23.5 per cent of the vote, it gets 23.5 per cent of the seats.
>If that amounts to, say, 40 seats, the top 40 names on the list of
>candidates authorized by your party will each get a seat.

Unless some got "voorkeursstemmen", preferential votes, for a person
not a party. Then the order is changed. All of that is described in
details in the Kieswet, Election Law, so there's never any discussion
about it.

--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

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 by: Snidely - Tue, 10 May 2022 08:39 UTC

Remember when Tony Cooper bragged outrageously? That was Sunday:
> On Sun, 8 May 2022 22:25:38 +0200, "Anders D. Nygaard"
> <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Den 08-05-2022 kl. 00:39 skrev Tony Cooper:
>>> In the US, we have Cabinet secretaries instead of Ministers.
>>
>> You had me confused there for a moment.
>> My first thought was that this is a distinction without a difference,
>> but when I tried to look it up, I found that British cabinet secretaries
>> are senior civil servants - which surely is not what you intended.
>>
>> Am I right in interpreting your point as being one of terminology:
>> In the US, politically appointed heads of government departments are
>> (mostly) referred to as "secretary of X", rather than "minister of X"?
>>
>> Or is there a deeper significance to your comment that I'm missing?
>>
>> /Anders, Denmark
>
> Titles. Antony Blinken is "Secretary of State". Not all Cabinet
> members are "Secretary of...", but the major ones - except for the
> Vice President - are.
>
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/cabinet/

Of minor note, Andrew Jackson had a group of confidants and advisors,
or maybe just cronies, that were nicknamed the "Kitchen Cabinet".

/dps

--
"First thing in the morning, before I have coffee, I read the obits, If
I'm not in it, I'll have breakfast." -- Carl Reiner, to CBS News in
2015.

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 by: CDB - Tue, 10 May 2022 10:45 UTC

On 5/9/2022 5:27 PM, Quinn C wrote:
> * Quinn C:

>> The two prevalent types of questions that I can't answer in
>> Jeopardy are a) from subjects that I'm not well-versed in and b)
>> questions that are very US-specific.

> When nobody could identify the multi-clued picture by Archibald
> Willard painted for the US centennial showing 3 marching musicians
> ("Spirit of '76"), Ken commented "I know you can picture it!" Maybe
> true for the candidates, but it didn't look familiar to me when I
> looked it up. Archibald Willard has a Wikipedia page in only four
> other languages - and an oddball collection it is: Arabic, French,
> Hebrew, Persian.

Ha. I even got the title.

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 by: CDB - Tue, 10 May 2022 10:49 UTC

On 5/9/2022 7:15 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> CDB wrote:
>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> lar3ryca wrote:

>>>>> As for Peter Stuyvesant, only a self-centred boor that
>>>>> thinks the world revolves around an eastern US state would
>>>>> expect every Canadian to know anything at all about him.

>>>> I know a little bit, but I went to school for several years in
>>>> an eastern US state. I picture him saying that some opponent
>>>> would soon be shorter by a head (possibly apocryphal; I
>>>> couldn't find it on the Net), or looking like Charles Coburn,
>>>> except black and white, and singing "September Song".

>>> What am I missing? Surely you don't mean Peter Stuyvesant singing
>>> "September Song".

>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played him a waiting
>> game.

> Courting... Tennis, or legal?

Courting, tout court.

So to speak. He'd let the old earth take a couple of whirls.

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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 5:27:10 PM UTC-4, Quinn C wrote:
> * Quinn C:

> > The two prevalent types of questions that I can't answer in Jeopardy are
> > a) from subjects that I'm not well-versed in and b) questions that are
> > very US-specific.
>
> When nobody could identify the multi-clued picture by Archibald Willard
> painted for the US centennial showing 3 marching musicians ("Spirit of
> '76"), Ken commented "I know you can picture it!" Maybe true for the
> candidates, but it didn't look familiar to me when I looked it up.
> Archibald Willard has a Wikipedia page in only four other languages -
> and an oddball collection it is: Arabic, French, Hebrew, Persian.

I knew what it was talking about but didn't remember the title and
never heard of the painter.

Does "Washington Crossing the Delaware" ring a bell for you? It's
parodied in cartoons probably weekly if not daily.

Last night's crew was particularly dispiriting. There's so much
these young kids know nothing about!

At least The Host of *Jeopardy!* is back.

If Mattea had gotten the "Little House" question, would she have
tossed in "Amy Farrah Fowler's favorite books"? Apparently it's
ok to mention *Blossom* (which was on NBC), but not TBBT (CBS),
and I doubt anyone will care to remember *Call Me Kat* (Fox)
(which in a desperate rating ploy dragged in the entire(? surviving?)
cast of *Blossom*).

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 by: Quinn C - Tue, 10 May 2022 17:22 UTC

* Peter T. Daniels:

> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 5:27:10 PM UTC-4, Quinn C wrote:
>> * Quinn C:
>
>>> The two prevalent types of questions that I can't answer in Jeopardy are
>>> a) from subjects that I'm not well-versed in and b) questions that are
>>> very US-specific.
>>
>> When nobody could identify the multi-clued picture by Archibald Willard
>> painted for the US centennial showing 3 marching musicians ("Spirit of
>> '76"), Ken commented "I know you can picture it!" Maybe true for the
>> candidates, but it didn't look familiar to me when I looked it up.
>> Archibald Willard has a Wikipedia page in only four other languages -
>> and an oddball collection it is: Arabic, French, Hebrew, Persian.
>
> I knew what it was talking about but didn't remember the title and
> never heard of the painter.
>
> Does "Washington Crossing the Delaware" ring a bell for you? It's
> parodied in cartoons probably weekly if not daily.

Yes, it does. I'm sure I've also correctly shouted it out as a Jeopardy
response.

For comparison, this painting, the painting itself, not the painter, has
Wikipedia pages in about 20 languages. And I don't think my knowledge
has anything to do with the fact that the first version of that painting
used to be in a German museum (destroyed in WWII).

--
Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)

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 by: Anders D. Nygaard - Tue, 10 May 2022 18:36 UTC

Den 09-05-2022 kl. 19:51 skrev Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> On 2022-05-09 17:27:33 +0000, Anders D. Nygaard said:
>
>> Den 09-05-2022 kl. 04:42 skrev bil...@shaw.ca:
>>> On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 3:39:37 PM UTC-7, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 7 May 2022 23:54:45 +0200, "Anders D. Nygaard"
>>>> <news2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Den 07-05-2022 kl. 00:11 skrev bil...@shaw.ca:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 10:07:31 PM UTC-7, Ruud Harmsen wrote:
>>>>>>> Wed, 4 May 2022 17:29:35 -0400: Quinn C
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> In Ireland, ministers are required to be MPs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Strange, very strange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not strange to me. In Canada, cabinet ministers are nearly always
>>>>>> MPs,
>>>>>> though it is not mandatory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same here.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Very rarely, a non-MP is named to the cabinet,
>>>>>> usually a prominent person.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite the contrary: Most non-MPs appointed minister are "experts" in
>>>>> some sense of the word; some already well-known to the public, but
>>>>> more, I think, have been non-public figures.
>>>
>>> Experts in their field who are prominent enough for cabinet
>>> consideration
>>> *are* generally experts in some sense of the word, as you put it. You
>>> are
>>> free to put it in your own words, but ""quite the contrary" is
>>> unwarranted here.
>>
>> I intended my statement to be "contrary" to "prominent" - not a slur on
>> the expertise of your "prominent persons". I thought my expansion on the
>> prominence (or not) of our non-MP ministers made that clear.
>>
>>>>> Another category is politicians who are EPs
>>>
>>> Whatever you mean by EPs is probably not in use in Canadian English.
>>> Or perhaps, when you explain what you mean by it, I'll say "D'oh" and
>>> slap myself on the forehead. For now,  I have no idea what you mean
>>> by EPs.
>>
>> Members of the European Parliament. I should have written MEPs.
>
> Better still: "Members of the European Parliament". It's safest not to
> use abbreviations unless you're sure that everyone knows them. Even for
> those of us who live in the European Union MEP is not an abbreviation we
> meet every day.

Point taken; thank you.

/Anders, Denmark

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Tue, 10 May 2022 19:29 UTC

On 08-May-22 22:42, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 8 May 2022 22:25:38 +0200, "Anders D. Nygaard"
> <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Den 08-05-2022 kl. 00:39 skrev Tony Cooper:
>>> In the US, we have Cabinet secretaries instead of Ministers.
>>
>> You had me confused there for a moment.
>> My first thought was that this is a distinction without a difference,
>> but when I tried to look it up, I found that British cabinet secretaries
>> are senior civil servants - which surely is not what you intended.

Slow follow up to this, but the UK does not have "Cabinet Secretaries".
We have _a_ Cabinet Secretary (i.e. the Secretary to the Cabinet) -
who is also the head of the civil service.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Tue, 10 May 2022 19:33 UTC

On 10-May-22 11:49, CDB wrote:
> On 5/9/2022 7:15 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> CDB wrote:

>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played him a waiting
>>> game.
>
>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?
>
> Courting, tout court.
>
> So to speak.  He'd let the old earth take a couple of whirls.

D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Tue, 10 May 2022 20:58 UTC

On 10/05/2022 8:33 pm, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 10-May-22 11:49, CDB wrote:
>> On 5/9/2022 7:15 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> CDB wrote:
>
>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played him a
>>>> waiting
>>>> game.
>>
>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?
>>
>> Courting, tout court.
>>
>> So to speak.  He'd let the old earth take a couple of whirls.
>
> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...
>
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/

https://xkcd.com/162/

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Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Tue, 10 May 2022 23:38 UTC

On 10-May-22 21:58, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 10/05/2022 8:33 pm, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 10-May-22 11:49, CDB wrote:
>>> On 5/9/2022 7:15 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> CDB wrote:
>>
>>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played him a waiting
>>>>> game.
>>>
>>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?
>>>
>>> Courting, tout court.
>>>
>>> So to speak.  He'd let the old earth take a couple of whirls.
>>
>> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...
>>
>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
>
> https://xkcd.com/162/

And they say romance is dead.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Peter Moylan - Wed, 11 May 2022 00:36 UTC

On 11/05/22 06:58, Richard Heathfield wrote:
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> https://xkcd.com/162/

Thank you. I really like that one.

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On 2022-05-06, Quinn C wrote:

> * Adam Funk:
>
>> On 2022-05-05, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/05/22 00:09, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 9:16:19 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>>> On 04/05/22 01:19, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Founders saw how badly the parliamentary system was doing in
>>>>>> Britain in their day, so they came up with something far better
>>>>>> -- three separate branches, with "checks and balances." Their
>>>>>> judgment was only confirmed by the dismal performances of
>>>>>> parliamentary systems in the 20th and 21st centuries.
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume that the original concept included the idea that the
>>>>> judiciary would be independent of the two political branches. There
>>>>> must have been a time, then, when politicians were unable to
>>>>> influence appointments to the highest court in the land. When did
>>>>> that go wrong?
>>>>
>>>> With the nomination of Robert Bork.
>>>>
>>>> That fiasco paved the way for Antonin Scalia's unanimous (or nearly
>>>> so) confirmation.
>>>
>>> What you need is a constitutional amendment that makes it illegal for a
>>> president to nominate a judge candidate, and also makes it illegal for
>>> senators to attend the confirmation hearings. Only then will you ensure
>>> a separation of powers.
>>
>> Somebody has to pick the judges --- at least the nomination/
>> confirmation split puts a bit of a check in the system.
>
> See the German system I described in another post - there are at least
> two nominating bodies, and two confirming ones, and they alternate.

OK, thanks.

--
In Fortran, GOD is REAL (unless declared INTEGER).

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Wed, 11 May 2022 10:20 UTC

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> On 09-May-22 12:10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> > As you no doubt know, Dutch members of parliament
> > must give up their seats when becoming minister.
>
> Presumably their Parliamentary seat is then filled after a local election.

There are no local elections.
The seat is taken by the next on the list.

> If there is a subsequent cabinet reshuffle, does that mean the (now)
> ex-minister is left high and dry?

There are no cabinet reshuffles.
There is no one who has the authority to.

> Or are cabinet reshuffles less common in the Netherlands than here in
> the UK?

They occur only when absolutely necessary,
like someone dropping dead,

Jam

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 by: CDB - Wed, 11 May 2022 11:30 UTC

On 5/10/2022 3:33 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> CDB wrote:
>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> CDB wrote:

>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played him a
>>>> waiting game.

>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?

>> Courting, tout court.

>> So to speak. He'd let the old earth take a couple of whirls.

> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...

> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/

Or when Joshua had that fit.

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 by: CDB - Wed, 11 May 2022 11:32 UTC

On 5/10/2022 7:38 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> CDB wrote:
>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> CDB wrote:

>>>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played him a
>>>>>> waiting game.

>>>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?

>>>> Courting, tout court.

>>>> So to speak. He'd let the old earth take a couple of whirls.

>>> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...

>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/

>> https://xkcd.com/162/

> And they say romance is dead.

It's all fun until somebody throws up.

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 by: CDB - Wed, 11 May 2022 11:34 UTC

On 5/10/2022 3:29 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> Tony Cooper wrote:
>> "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Tony Cooper:

>>>> In the US, we have Cabinet secretaries instead of Ministers.

>>> You had me confused there for a moment. My first thought was that
>>> this is a distinction without a difference, but when I tried to
>>> look it up, I found that British cabinet secretaries are senior
>>> civil servants - which surely is not what you intended.

> Slow follow up to this, but the UK does not have "Cabinet
> Secretaries". We have _a_ Cabinet Secretary (i.e. the Secretary to
> the Cabinet) - who is also the head of the civil service.

AKA "Clerk of the Privy Council", this side pond.

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 by: Adam Funk - Wed, 11 May 2022 12:02 UTC

On 2022-05-11, CDB wrote:

> On 5/10/2022 3:29 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> Tony Cooper wrote:
>>> "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Tony Cooper:
>
>>>>> In the US, we have Cabinet secretaries instead of Ministers.
>
>>>> You had me confused there for a moment. My first thought was that
>>>> this is a distinction without a difference, but when I tried to
>>>> look it up, I found that British cabinet secretaries are senior
>>>> civil servants - which surely is not what you intended.
>
>> Slow follow up to this, but the UK does not have "Cabinet
>> Secretaries". We have _a_ Cabinet Secretary (i.e. the Secretary to
>> the Cabinet) - who is also the head of the civil service.
>
> AKA "Clerk of the Privy Council", this side pond.

Speaking of Canadian officialdom, I heard on a podcast recently that
there was some controversy because the current Governor General is
the wrong kind of bilingual (although she promised to learn French on
the job).

--
really don't mind
if you sit this one out

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 11 May 2022 14:13 UTC

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 7:32:45 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
> On 5/10/2022 7:38 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> > Richard Heathfield wrote:
> >> Sam Plusnet wrote:
> >>> CDB wrote:
> >>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
> >>>>> CDB wrote:
> >>>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played him a
> >>>>>> waiting game.
> >>>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?
> >>>> Courting, tout court.
> >>>> So to speak. He'd let the old earth take a couple of whirls.
> >>> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...
> >>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
> >> https://xkcd.com/162/
> > And they say romance is dead.
>
> It's all fun until somebody throws up.

Somebody didn't look at the roll-over text.

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 by: CDB - Wed, 11 May 2022 14:46 UTC

On 5/11/2022 10:13 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> CDB wrote:
>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> CDB wrote:
>>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>> CDB wrote:

>>>>>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played
>>>>>>>> him a waiting game.
>>>>>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?
>>>>>> Courting, tout court. So to speak. He'd let the old earth
>>>>>> take a couple of whirls.
>>>>> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...
>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
>>>> https://xkcd.com/162/
>>> And they say romance is dead.

>> It's all fun until somebody throws up.

> Somebody didn't look at the roll-over text.

Then how did anybody think of the question?

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On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 10:46:30 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
> On 5/11/2022 10:13 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > CDB wrote:
> >> Sam Plusnet wrote:
> >>> Richard Heathfield wrote:
> >>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
> >>>>> CDB wrote:
> >>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
> >>>>>>> CDB wrote:
> >>>>>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played
> >>>>>>>> him a waiting game.
> >>>>>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?
> >>>>>> Courting, tout court. So to speak. He'd let the old earth
> >>>>>> take a couple of whirls.
> >>>>> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...
> >>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
> >>>> https://xkcd.com/162/
> >>> And they say romance is dead.
> >> It's all fun until somebody throws up.
> > Somebody didn't look at the roll-over text.
>
> Then how did anybody think of the question?

Seems a fairly obvious concern with a young person spinning
around for a long time.

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 by: Quinn C - Wed, 11 May 2022 17:49 UTC

* CDB:

> On 5/10/2022 7:38 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> CDB wrote:
>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>> CDB wrote:
>
>>>>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played him a
>>>>>>> waiting game.
>
>>>>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?
>
>>>>> Courting, tout court.
>
>>>>> So to speak. He'd let the old earth take a couple of whirls.
>
>>>> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...
>
>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
>
>>> https://xkcd.com/162/
>
>> And they say romance is dead.
>
> It's all fun until somebody throws up.

Isn't that canonically "It's all fun and games until ..."?

--
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in which the score is kept.
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 by: Adam Funk - Wed, 11 May 2022 18:33 UTC

On 2022-05-11, Quinn C wrote:

> * CDB:
>
>> On 5/10/2022 7:38 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> CDB wrote:
>>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>> CDB wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played him a
>>>>>>>> waiting game.
>>
>>>>>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?
>>
>>>>>> Courting, tout court.
>>
>>>>>> So to speak. He'd let the old earth take a couple of whirls.
>>
>>>>> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...
>>
>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
>>
>>>> https://xkcd.com/162/
>>
>>> And they say romance is dead.
>>
>> It's all fun until somebody throws up.
>
> Isn't that canonically "It's all fun and games until ..."?

I'd use that form.

--
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thousand lines of C." ---Eric Raymond

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 by: CDB - Wed, 11 May 2022 19:04 UTC

On 5/11/2022 1:49 PM, Quinn C wrote:
> * CDB:
>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> CDB wrote:
>>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>> CDB wrote:

>>>>>>>> When he was a young man courting the girls, he played
>>>>>>>> him a waiting game.

>>>>>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?

>>>>>> Courting, tout court.

>>>>>> So to speak. He'd let the old earth take a couple of
>>>>>> whirls.

>>>>> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...

>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/

>>>> https://xkcd.com/162/

>>> And they say romance is dead.

>> It's all fun until somebody throws up.

> Isn't that canonically "It's all fun and games until ..."?

I think there are different versions. I have heard the one I used,
apart from the last bit.

I considered "loses their lunch", but I wanted an echo of xkcd.

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