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* CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
+* Re: CRT in math testbooksspains...@gmail.com
|`* Re: CRT in math testbooksKerr-Mudd, John
| `- Re: CRT in math testbooksQuinn C
+* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
|`- Re: CRT in math testbooksAdam Funk
+* Re: CRT in math testbooksTony Cooper
|+* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
||+* Re: CRT in math testbooksLewis
|||`* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
||| +* Re: CRT in math testbooksRichard Heathfield
||| |`- Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
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||| | |`* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
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||| | |  `* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
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||| | `* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
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||| |   |  `* Re: CRT in math testbooksSnidely
||| |   |   `* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
||| |   |    `* Re: CRT in math testbooksTony Cooper
||| |   |     `* Re: CRT in math testbooksRuud Harmsen
||| |   |      +* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
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||| |   |      | +* Re: CRT in math testbooksQuinn C
||| |   |      | |`* Re: CRT in math testbooksRuud Harmsen
||| |   |      | | +- Re: CRT in math testbookslar3ryca
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||| |   |      | `* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
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||| |   |      +* Re: CRT in math testbooksJanet
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||| |   |      ||||`* Re: CRT in math testbooksTony Cooper
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||| |   |      ||| | | `* Re: CRT in math testbooksCDB
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||| |   |      ||| | |   |`- Re: CRT in math testbooksruudhar...@gmail.com
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||| |   |      ||| | |   | `- Re: CRT in math testbooksCDB
||| |   |      ||| | |   `- Re: CRT in math testbooksJ. J. Lodder
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||| |   |      ||| `* Re: CRT in math testbooksAdam Funk
||| |   |      ||+* Re: CRT in math testbooksRuud Harmsen
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||| |   |      |`- Re: CRT in math testbooksRuud Harmsen
||| |   |      +* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
||| |   |      `- Re: CRT in math testbooksTony Cooper
||| |   `* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter Moylan
||| `* Re: CRT in math testbooksKen Blake
||`* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
|+- Re: CRT in math testbooksLewis
|+* Re: CRT in math testbooksPeter T. Daniels
|`* Re: CRT in math testbooksDingbat
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Re: CRT in math testbooks

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Fri, 13 May 2022 19:16 UTC

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:28:09 PM UTC-4, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-05-13 04:53, CDB wrote:
> > On 5/12/2022 11:23 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo%E2%80%93Aleut_languages#Internal_classification
> > Acording
> > to your article, it is the language spoken in Canada by almost
> > all Inuit.
>
> Thanks for that link.

You're welcome.

> I see the article still uses 'Eskimo' in various
> places in the article.

Wrong end of the stick. "Eskimo" is the name of the language family.
Whether it is some sort of over-arching term for ethnic groups is
uninteresting.

As for the double-spaced excerpt deleted above, no, the Aleut languages
are not "descended from" the Eskimo languages. Aleut and Eskimo are
two coordinate branches of a single language phylum, with a long-extinct
common ancestor.

It's like saying the Indic languages are descended from the Iranian
languages, or vice versa. They're not. They had a common ancestor.

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 by: Quinn C - Sat, 14 May 2022 03:27 UTC

* Peter T. Daniels:

> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:28:09 PM UTC-4, lar3ryca wrote:
>> On 2022-05-13 04:53, CDB wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2022 11:23 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo%E2%80%93Aleut_languages#Internal_classification
>>> Acording
>>> to your article, it is the language spoken in Canada by almost
>>> all Inuit.
>>
>> Thanks for that link.
>
> You're welcome.
>
>> I see the article still uses 'Eskimo' in various
>> places in the article.
>
> Wrong end of the stick. "Eskimo" is the name of the language family.
> Whether it is some sort of over-arching term for ethnic groups is
> uninteresting.

Yes and no. If "Eskimo" for ethnic groups has been dropped for being
offensive - as is often claimed in Canada -, it should be dropped for
languages, too. But the answer to that isn't as clear-cut as that.

--
Kira: Any luck?
Garak: Plenty, major. Unfortunately, all of it bad.

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 by: Anders D. Nygaard - Sat, 14 May 2022 10:23 UTC

Den 13-05-2022 kl. 14:18 skrev J. J. Lodder:
> Anders D. Nygaard <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Den 12-05-2022 kl. 09:58 skrev J. J. Lodder:
>>> Anders D. Nygaard <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Den 10-05-2022 kl. 21:29 skrev Sam Plusnet:
>>>>> On 08-May-22 22:42, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 8 May 2022 22:25:38 +0200, "Anders D. Nygaard"
>>>>>> <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Den 08-05-2022 kl. 00:39 skrev Tony Cooper:
>>>>>>>> In the US, we have Cabinet secretaries instead of Ministers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You had me confused there for a moment.
>>>>>>> My first thought was that this is a distinction without a difference,
>>>>>>> but when I tried to look it up, I found that British cabinet secretaries
>>>>>>> are senior civil servants - which surely is not what you intended.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slow follow up to this, but the UK does not have "Cabinet Secretaries".
>>>>> We have _a_ Cabinet Secretary (i.e. the Secretary to the Cabinet) -
>>>>> who is also the head of the civil service.
>>>>
>>>> My bad. I read too quickly, and confused it with Danish
>>>> "departementschef", of which there is one per ministry.
>>>> They do not, AFAIU, have a boss
>>
>> ... who is also a civil servant.
>
> An empty addition, unless you allow for an infinity of them,

Um .. no. The addition serves to distinguish the Danish system
from the British, where Permanent Secretaries (~= "departementschef")
do have a civil servant boss, the Cabinet Secretary.

/Anders, Denmark

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 by: CDB - Sat, 14 May 2022 12:15 UTC

On 5/13/2022 12:14 PM, Quinn C wrote:
> Peter T. Daniels:
>> Quinn C wrote:
>>> Peter T. Daniels:
>>>> Quinn C wrote:
>>>>> Peter T. Daniels:
>>>>>> CDB wrote:
>>>>>>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>>>>>>> CDB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> CDB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CDB wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he was a young man courting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> girls, he played him a waiting game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Courting... Tennis, or legal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Courting, tout court. So to speak. He'd let
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the old earth take a couple of whirls.
>>>>>>>>>>>> D@mn hard to stop it doing that - unless...
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
>>>>>>>>>>> https://xkcd.com/162/
>>>>>>>>>> And they say romance is dead.
>>>>>>>>> It's all fun until somebody throws up.
>>>>>>>> Somebody didn't look at the roll-over text.
>>>>>>> Then how did anybody think of the question?
>>>>>> Seems a fairly obvious concern with a young person
>>>>>> spinning around for a long time.
>>>>> But not with an older person?
>>>> See who's depicted in the drawing.

>>> But why did you find the age relevant to your comment - as
>>> opposed to, for example, gender? Grice, you know.

>> In your experience, what sort of person spins around until they
>> fall down or throw up? Gender has nothing to do with it, since
>> little boys, little girls, and presumably little inters also do it
>> for fun.

> Yes - which means people not old enough to talk like the person in
> the picture, who I would assume to be in the 16-30 range. But ok,
> they can both fall under "young person".

> Let's also put aside the mixing of gender and sex terms.

>>>>> Are we all supposed to get used to it, without anti-twisties
>>>>> training?
>>>> Dervishes do it.

>>> Not all that representative for older people in general.

>> One begins to see why some people say they don't want to play with
>> you any more. You're waxing Cooperish.

> Really? You've now given a reasonable explanation for your
> linguistic choice: you wanted to express that an older person would
> never or almost never do that in the first place, so they're out of
> scope.

> I might disagree with that, but it's not an absurd position. OTOH,
> it wasn't trivially obvious to me, so I asked. The latter seems to be
> where the disruption of communication originated.

> And to address what you might be alluding to: Even if it's a rare
> occurrence, I could disagree with reinforcing the stereotype that
> older people don't spin, but that's not an actively harmful
> stereotype in our society, so not a big deal, and that's not why I
> commented.

It's because, when old people get down, they can't get up.

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 by: CDB - Sat, 14 May 2022 12:20 UTC

On 5/13/2022 12:28 PM, lar3ryca wrote:
> CDB wrote:
>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>> Mark Brader wrote:
>>>> Ken Blake:
>>>>> Quinn:
>>>>>> bill:

>>> [Brader's screwing with the attributions repaired]
>>>>>>> The story when she [Mary Simon] was appointed was more
>>>>>>> about her being the first aboriginal person named to the
>>>>>>> post [of Governor-General] than what languages she
>>>>>>> spoke.
>>>>>> It should be noted that she speaks two languages of Canada,
>>>>>> even if one isn't official throughout the country.
>>>>> What is the other one besides English and French?
>>
>>>> Inuktitut (which I suppose we would have called Eskimo when I
>>>> was a boy). Her name in Inuktitut is Ningiukadlak.
>>
>>> Inuktitut is one of ten Eskimo languages.
>>
>> We had a visitor from Alaska here, years ago, who favoured "Eskimo"
>> as the general term for the broad category.
>
> That would be, if you mean who I think you mean, Floyd Davidson. I
> copied the following posting to use when I heard people taking
> umbrage at the word 'Eskimo'.
>
> --- begin --- Subject: Re: How are these jokes supposed to be funny?
>
> Date: 6 Oct 1998 09:55:15 GMT
>
> From: floyd@tanana.polarnet.com (Floyd Davidson)
>
> Reply-To: floyd@ptialaska.net

> Organization: __________

> Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
> Polar <s.meric@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> markenadms@aol.com (MarkenAdms) wrote:

>>> Eskimos (who do not like being referred to as Eskimos, by the
>>> >>way)
> are famously hospitable.

>> This has been around a few times. I remember being in Barrow,
>> Alaska
> (way, way, up there; on the Chukchi Sea), and tiptoeing carefully
> around saying "Inuit" and "Inupiat" (language). Meantime the locals
> cheerfully referred to themselves as Eskimos.

> The language spoken in northern Alaska is known as "Inupiaq",

> which is singular for "Inupiat" which is the word they call

> themselves when speaking their language, which is an Inuit

> dialect. OK?

> Eskimos in Canada and Greenland are Inuit Eskimos, and in

> Siberia there are only Yupik Eskimos. But in Alaska, where

> Eskimo culture was born... there are both Inuit and Yupik,

> which are the two major branches of Eskimo people and languages.

> (Unangam people are descended from Eskimos, and their language

> is an Eskimo language, but they are not Eskimos because they

> have developed into a very distinct culture of their own. Most

> people have heard them called Aleuts.)

> I have *never* met an Eskimo who did not use that word when

> speaking English and referring to all types of Eskimos, and that

> includes Canadian Eskimos. I've never met an Eskimo who found

> that word insulting either, obviously. Most Yupik Eskimos are

> less than amused by people telling them they are not Eskimos,

> but Inuit... and those who are not amused are annoyed.

> Quyanaqpuk, (Inupiaq)

> Quyanakva, (Yupik)

> Thank you very much, (English)

> Floyd

> --

> Floyd L. Davidson floyd@ptialaska.net
>
> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) --- end ---

> Over the past few years, the PC crowd has had enough sway to force at
> least one sports team to change its name top /The Edmonton Elks/,
> and I have seen evidence of at least _some_ Eskimos jumping on the
> bandwagon with the more southern indigenous tribes.

>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo%E2%80%93Aleut_languages#Internal_classification
>>>
>> Acording to your article, it is the language spoken in Canada by
>> almost all Inuit.

> Thanks for that link. I see the article still uses 'Eskimo' in
> various places in the article.

And thank you very much for remembering Floyd Davidson.

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 by: CDB - Sat, 14 May 2022 12:23 UTC

On 5/13/2022 10:50 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> CDB wrote:
>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>> Mark Brader wrote:
>>>> Ken Blake:
>>>>> Quinn:
>>>>>> bill:

> [Brader's screwing with the attributions repaired]
>>>>>>> The story when she [Mary Simon] was appointed was more
>>>>>>> about her being the first aboriginal person named to the
>>>>>>> post [of Governor-General] than what languages she
>>>>>>> spoke.
>>>>>> It should be noted that she speaks two languages of
>>>>>> Canada, even if one isn't official throughout the country.
>>>>> What is the other one besides English and French?
>>>> Inuktitut (which I suppose we would have called Eskimo when I
>>>> was a boy). Her name in Inuktitut is Ningiukadlak.
>>> Inuktitut is one of ten Eskimo languages.

>> We had a visitor from Alaska here, years ago, who favoured "Eskimo"
>> as the general term for the broad category.

> Maybe a Michael Krauss (U AK Fairbanks) student.

No, RichardH has it: Floyd Davidson.

I have reproduced his entire post in my reply, in case some people have
killfiled him.

>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo%E2%80%93Aleut_languages#Internal_classification

>
>>>
(Incidentally, the claim that it's some sort of insult -- the "translations"
> vary -- in an Algonquian language is apparently false.)

>> Acording to your article, it is the language spoken in Canada by
>> almost all Inuit.

> That's how language-naming goes ...

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On 5/14/2022 8:23 AM, CDB wrote:
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> CDB wrote:

>>> We had a visitor from Alaska here, years ago, who favoured
>>> "Eskimo" as the general term for the broad category.

>> Maybe a Michael Krauss (U AK Fairbanks) student.

> No, RichardH has it: Floyd Davidson.

I mean "Lar", dammit. They're both contrarians.

> I have reproduced his entire post in my reply, in case some people
> have killfiled him.

[...]

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On 14/05/2022 1:27 pm, CDB wrote:
> On 5/14/2022 8:23 AM, CDB wrote:
>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>> CDB wrote:
>
>>>> We had a visitor from Alaska here, years ago, who favoured
>>>> "Eskimo" as the general term for the broad category.
>
>>> Maybe a Michael Krauss (U AK Fairbanks) student.
>
>> No, RichardH has it: Floyd Davidson.
>
> I mean "Lar", dammit.

I was wondering.

> They're both contrarians.

Oh no we're not!

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On 5/14/2022 8:27 AM, CDB wrote:
> CDB wrote:
>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>> CDB wrote:

>>>> We had a visitor from Alaska here, years ago, who favoured
>>>> "Eskimo" as the general term for the broad category.

>>> Maybe a Michael Krauss (U AK Fairbanks) student.

>> No, RichardH has it: Floyd Davidson.

> I mean "Lar", dammit. They're both contrarians.

Richard, I have deleted so many of the two-letter troll's postings that
sometimes my mouse has a mind of is own.

You posted "Oh no, we're not". If I still had your post, I would reply
"Then you've a hole in your bucket."
>
>> I have reproduced his entire post in my reply, in case some people
>> have killfiled him.

> [...]

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On 14/05/2022 2:16 pm, CDB wrote:
> You posted "Oh no, we're not".

I cannot deny it.

> If I still had your post, I would
> reply
> "Then you've a hole in your bucket."

Guilty as charged. It's at the top.

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 by: lar3ryca - Sat, 14 May 2022 13:47 UTC

On 2022-05-14 06:42, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 14/05/2022 1:27 pm, CDB wrote:
>> On 5/14/2022 8:23 AM, CDB wrote:
>>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>>> CDB wrote:
>>
>>>>> We had a visitor from Alaska here, years ago, who favoured
>>>>> "Eskimo" as the general term for the broad category.
>>
>>>> Maybe a Michael Krauss (U AK Fairbanks) student.
>>
>>> No, RichardH has it: Floyd Davidson.
>>
>> I mean "Lar", dammit.
>
> I was wondering.
>
>
>> They're both contrarians.
>
>
> Oh no we're not!

+1

--
I went to a restaurant that serves “breakfast at any time”.
So I ordered French Toast during the Renaissance.

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Sat, 14 May 2022 14:25 UTC

On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 8:24:01 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 10:50 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > CDB wrote:
> >> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >>> Mark Brader wrote:
> >>>> Ken Blake:
> >>>>> Quinn:
> >>>>>> bill:

> > [Brader's screwing with the attributions repaired]
> >>>>>>> The story when she [Mary Simon] was appointed was more
> >>>>>>> about her being the first aboriginal person named to the
> >>>>>>> post [of Governor-General] than what languages she
> >>>>>>> spoke.
> >>>>>> It should be noted that she speaks two languages of
> >>>>>> Canada, even if one isn't official throughout the country.
> >>>>> What is the other one besides English and French?
> >>>> Inuktitut (which I suppose we would have called Eskimo when I
> >>>> was a boy). Her name in Inuktitut is Ningiukadlak.
> >>> Inuktitut is one of ten Eskimo languages.
> >> We had a visitor from Alaska here, years ago, who favoured "Eskimo"
> >> as the general term for the broad category.
> > Maybe a Michael Krauss (U AK Fairbanks) student.
>
> No, RichardH has it: Floyd Davidson.

Did he study E-A linguistics somewhere else? Seems unlikely.

> I have reproduced his entire post in my reply, in case some people have
> killfiled him.
>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo%E2%80%93Aleut_languages#Internal_classification
>
> (Incidentally, the claim that it's some sort of insult -- the "translations"
> > vary -- in an Algonquian language is apparently false.)
> >> Acording to your article, it is the language spoken in Canada by
> >> almost all Inuit.
> > That's how language-naming goes ...

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 by: lar3ryca - Sat, 14 May 2022 14:37 UTC

On 2022-05-14 06:20, CDB wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 12:28 PM, lar3ryca wrote:
>> That would be, if you mean who I think you mean, Floyd Davidson. I
>> copied the following posting to use when I heard people taking
>> umbrage at the word 'Eskimo'.
>>
<snippage>

>> Over the past few years, the PC crowd has had enough sway to force at
>>  least one sports team to change its name top /The Edmonton Elks/,
>> and I have seen evidence of at least _some_ Eskimos jumping on the
>> bandwagon with the more southern indigenous tribes.
>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo%E2%80%93Aleut_languages#Internal_classification
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Acording to your article, it is the language spoken in Canada by
>>> almost all Inuit.
>
>> Thanks for that link. I see the article still uses 'Eskimo' in
>> various places in the article.

> And thank you very much for remembering Floyd Davidson.

I remember many AuE Regulars, respected or otherwise, from many years ago.

His most recent posts are from 2005.

I still have many saved posts from the last century that I encounter now
and then. Had a good chuckle just yesterday, while looking for the one
from Floyd, when I found one from Brian J. Goggin about Starbucks.

I apologize for the double-spacing. It looked fine on Thunderbird when I
sent it, but the file I copy/pasted from was created on a Windows
machine, and has CR/LF line termination.

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 by: Tony Cooper - Sat, 14 May 2022 15:31 UTC

On Sat, 14 May 2022 08:37:09 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-05-14 06:20, CDB wrote:
>> On 5/13/2022 12:28 PM, lar3ryca wrote:
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>>> copied the following posting to use when I heard people taking
>>> umbrage at the word 'Eskimo'.
>>>
><snippage>
>
>
>>> Over the past few years, the PC crowd has had enough sway to force at
>>>  least one sports team to change its name top /The Edmonton Elks/,
>>> and I have seen evidence of at least _some_ Eskimos jumping on the
>>> bandwagon with the more southern indigenous tribes.
>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo%E2%80%93Aleut_languages#Internal_classification
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Acording to your article, it is the language spoken in Canada by
>>>> almost all Inuit.
>>
>>> Thanks for that link. I see the article still uses 'Eskimo' in
>>> various places in the article.
>
>> And thank you very much for remembering Floyd Davidson.
>
>I remember many AuE Regulars, respected or otherwise, from many years ago.
>
>His most recent posts are from 2005.

While Floyd might have been inactive in this forum after 2005, he has
been quite active elsewhere since 2005.

Floyd and I shared the hobby of photography, and he was quite active
in some of the photography newsgroups. Unlike me, he could be very
contentious.

An example of his photography can be seen at:
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-20th-century-in-barrow-floyd-davidson.html

When those newsgroups were active (they no longer are) most posters
linked to their current photographs in every post. Floyd provided
some interesting shots of residents of Barrow.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

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Anders D. Nygaard <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:

> Den 13-05-2022 kl. 14:18 skrev J. J. Lodder:
> > Anders D. Nygaard <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Den 12-05-2022 kl. 09:58 skrev J. J. Lodder:
> >>> Anders D. Nygaard <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Den 10-05-2022 kl. 21:29 skrev Sam Plusnet:
> >>>>> On 08-May-22 22:42, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sun, 8 May 2022 22:25:38 +0200, "Anders D. Nygaard"
> >>>>>> <news2012adn@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Den 08-05-2022 kl. 00:39 skrev Tony Cooper:
> >>>>>>>> In the US, we have Cabinet secretaries instead of Ministers.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You had me confused there for a moment.
> >>>>>>> My first thought was that this is a distinction without a
> >>>>>>> difference, but when I tried to look it up, I found that British
> >>>>>>> cabinet secretaries are senior civil servants - which surely is
> >>>>>>> not what you intended.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Slow follow up to this, but the UK does not have "Cabinet Secretaries".
> >>>>> We have _a_ Cabinet Secretary (i.e. the Secretary to the Cabinet) -
> >>>>> who is also the head of the civil service.
> >>>>
> >>>> My bad. I read too quickly, and confused it with Danish
> >>>> "departementschef", of which there is one per ministry.
> >>>> They do not, AFAIU, have a boss
> >>
> >> ... who is also a civil servant.
> >
> > An empty addition, unless you allow for an infinity of them,
>
> Um .. no. The addition serves to distinguish the Danish system
> from the British, where Permanent Secretaries (~= "departementschef")
> do have a civil servant boss, the Cabinet Secretary.

And his also civil servant boss is?

Jan

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sat, 14 May 2022 19:13 UTC

On 14-May-22 16:31, Tony Cooper wrote:

> Floyd and I shared the hobby of photography, and he was quite active
> in some of the photography newsgroups. Unlike me, he could be very
> contentious.
>
> An example of his photography can be seen at:
> https://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-20th-century-in-barrow-floyd-davidson.html
>
> When those newsgroups were active (they no longer are) most posters
> linked to their current photographs in every post. Floyd provided
> some interesting shots of residents of Barrow.
>

I couldn't see any submarines, so I imagine it isn't the "Barrow" I
first thought of.

(Barrow in Furness)

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: charles - Sat, 14 May 2022 19:57 UTC

In article <RbTfK.44152$qMI1.35201@fx96.iad>,
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 14-May-22 16:31, Tony Cooper wrote:

> > Floyd and I shared the hobby of photography, and he was quite active
> > in some of the photography newsgroups. Unlike me, he could be very
> > contentious.
> >
> > An example of his photography can be seen at:
> > https://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-20th-century-in-barrow-floyd-davidson.html
> >
> > When those newsgroups were active (they no longer are) most posters
> > linked to their current photographs in every post. Floyd provided
> > some interesting shots of residents of Barrow.
> >

> I couldn't see any submarines, so I imagine it isn't the "Barrow" I
> first thought of.

> (Barrow in Furness)

I think the submarines are built under cover rather than in an open dock

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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 by: lar3ryca - Sat, 14 May 2022 20:06 UTC

On 2022-05-14 08:37, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-05-14 06:20, CDB wrote:
>> On 5/13/2022 12:28 PM, lar3ryca wrote:
>>> That would be, if you mean who I think you mean, Floyd Davidson. I
>>> copied the following posting to use when I heard people taking
>>> umbrage at the word 'Eskimo'.
>>>
> <snippage>
>
>
>>> Over the past few years, the PC crowd has had enough sway to force at
>>>  least one sports team to change its name top /The Edmonton Elks/,
>>> and I have seen evidence of at least _some_ Eskimos jumping on the
>>> bandwagon with the more southern indigenous tribes.
>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo%E2%80%93Aleut_languages#Internal_classification
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Acording to your article, it is the language spoken in Canada by
>>>> almost all Inuit.
>>
>>> Thanks for that link. I see the article still uses 'Eskimo' in
>>> various places in the article.
>
>> And thank you very much for remembering Floyd Davidson.
>
> I remember many AuE Regulars, respected or otherwise, from many years ago.
>
> His most recent posts are from 2005.
>
> I still have many saved posts from the last century that I encounter now
> and then. Had a good chuckle just yesterday, while looking for the one
> from Floyd, when I found one from Brian J. Goggin about Starbucks.
>
> I apologize for the double-spacing. It looked fine on Thunderbird when I
> sent it, but the file I copy/pasted from was created on a Windows
> machine, and has CR/LF line termination.

This is just a test, to see if newlines consisting on only a LF (0x0A0
will single-space.

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From boblipton@earthlink.net Fri Oct 01 06:25:00 1999
To: Brian J Goggin <bjg@wordwrights.ie>
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Coffee
From: Bob Lipton <boblipton@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:25:00 -0400

Brian J Goggin wrote:
>
> Is there a standard set of terms used in coffee-making and understood
> throughout the world? And do any of these terms reflect the method of
> making coffee (plunger, filter etc)?
>
> Chambers does not recognise this latte, by the way. Collins defines it
> as *The Oldie* does. NODE says it's short for "caffe latte", which is
> said to be a shot of expresso added to hot milk.

I doubt it very much. I know that ordering coffee in a coffee shop or
diner, 'regular' in New York City will get you the equivalent of two
teaspoons of sugar and two of those tiny plastic servings of half and
half in your coffee. This is, apparently, considered excessive
elsewhere, (1) and I have to order my coffee light and sweet.

I am informed by a coffee broker that, although there is a good grade of
coffee known in the trade as Dunkin' Donuts, after the chain which sells
a reliable cup of coffee, there is no grade of Starbucks, which buys
whatever is cheap and burns it. It may be significant that the current
coffee craze seems to have arisen in Seattle, Washington, where the
alternatives to drinking bad coffee are watching it rain, working for
Microsoft and committing suicide. All seem equally pleasurable.

Bob

(1) Most of my other coffee-buying has been in New England, where
being a stingy, surly git is considered an asset, except in New
Hampshire, where being a stingy git is the sign of a rabid liberal.
What can you expect of a state where the license plates, bearing the
motto 'Live Free or Die' is stamped out by prisoners?
---- end ----

--
He was killed instantly. That’s the way it works.
You’re alive, you’re alive, you’re alive, you’re dead.

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lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> writes:
>I doubt it very much. I know that ordering coffee in a coffee shop or
>diner, 'regular' in New York City will get you the equivalent of two
>teaspoons of sugar and two of those tiny plastic servings of half and
>half in your coffee. This is, apparently, considered excessive
>elsewhere, (1) and I have to order my coffee light and sweet.

Reminds me of <coffee-20210504202447@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
and <regular-coffee-20210504211114@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>!

For those of you who do not remember:

|Subject: Re: How do you call coffee with milk and sugar?
|From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
|Message-ID: <coffee-20210504202447@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
| |In New York jargon, coffee with milk and sugar is called
|"regular coffee", but everywhere else a regular coffee
|is a coffee that is not decaffeinated.
....

|Subject: Re: How do you call coffee with milk and sugar?
|From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
|Message-ID: <regular-coffee-20210504211114@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
....
|Also in much of New England, "regular coffee" or
|"coffee regular" refers to coffee with cream and sugar.
| |However, the quotation shows that confusion is possible:
| ||Det. Lennie Briscoe: I'd like a regular coffee.
||Coffee Shop Clerk: Okay, how would you like it?
|Law and Order, season 8

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On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:06:37 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

>I doubt it very much. I know that ordering coffee in a coffee shop or
>diner, 'regular' in New York City will get you the equivalent of two
>teaspoons of sugar and two of those tiny plastic servings of half and
>half in your coffee.

If you say so. Although I grew up in NYC, I have no memory of that.,
perhaps because I never ordered it that way.

>This is, apparently, considered excessive
>elsewhere,

It is to me. I want zero teaspoons of sugar and zero of those tiny
plastic servings of half and half (or any other milk or cream)

> (1) and I have to order my coffee light and sweet.
>
>I am informed by a coffee broker that, although there is a good grade of
>coffee known in the trade as Dunkin' Donuts, after the chain which sells
>a reliable cup of coffee,

I haven't had any Dunkin' Donuts coffee in many years, but I remember
liking it. That's not to say I would like it now; I don't know. A
Dunkin' Donuts opened about a quarter of a mile from here a year or
two ago, but I've never been there.

> there is no grade of Starbucks, which buys
>whatever is cheap and burns it.

Yes. Especially burning it. To me, despite its enormous popularity,
it's the world's worst coffee.

I would rather drink water than Starbucks coffee.

Starbucks coffee is so popular, at least in the US, that many other
places now mimic their style and theirs is also often undrinkable.

The best coffee that I know of here in Tucson is what I make, both
American style coffee in the morning, and Italian-style ("espresso")
after dinner, but I know a few restaurants with coffee that's at least
drinkable.

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charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> In article <RbTfK.44152$qMI1.35201@fx96.iad>,
> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> > On 14-May-22 16:31, Tony Cooper wrote:
>
> > > Floyd and I shared the hobby of photography, and he was quite active
> > > in some of the photography newsgroups. Unlike me, he could be very
> > > contentious.
> > >
> > > An example of his photography can be seen at:
> > > https://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-20th-century-in-barrow-floyd-david
son.html
> > >
> > > When those newsgroups were active (they no longer are) most posters
> > > linked to their current photographs in every post. Floyd provided
> > > some interesting shots of residents of Barrow.
> > >
>
> > I couldn't see any submarines, so I imagine it isn't the "Barrow" I
> > first thought of.
>
> > (Barrow in Furness)
>
> I think the submarines are built under cover rather than in an open dock

Nowadays perhaps, but not in the past,

Jan

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 by: Tony Cooper - Sat, 14 May 2022 21:25 UTC

On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:06:37 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

>I doubt it very much. I know that ordering coffee in a coffee shop or
>diner, 'regular' in New York City will get you the equivalent of two
>teaspoons of sugar and two of those tiny plastic servings of half and
>half in your coffee. This is, apparently, considered excessive
>elsewhere, (1) and I have to order my coffee light and sweet.

I have no general objection to hyperbole, but this seems to be
excessive. I have never experienced a problem anywhere in the
restriction of sugar packets or containers of "creamer". You may have
to ask for more, but they will be forthcoming.

The term "Regular" does vary in meaning across the country. In this
area "Regular" is black with no whitener or sugar. In Boston, a
waitress accused me of being a "smart ass" because she said "Regular?"
and I replied "No, with cream and sugar".

>
>I am informed by a coffee broker that, although there is a good grade of
>coffee known in the trade as Dunkin' Donuts, after the chain which sells
>a reliable cup of coffee,

We use a Keurig coffee maker that uses pods. We buy Gevalia (Amazon,
ordered one day, delivered the next) pods. A bit more expensive than
using ground coffee, but worth it to us in convenience.

On-the-road, if I want coffee I will look for a Dunkin'. I don't
think their coffee is any better, but it is more likely to be fresher.
Coffee from convenience stores can be just as good if fresh, but most
don't brew fresh coffee often enough, and the current pot may be
several hours old.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

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On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 5:08:58 PM UTC-4, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:06:37 -0600, lar3ryca <la...@invalid.ca> wrote:

> >I doubt it very much. I know that ordering coffee in a coffee shop or
> >diner, 'regular' in New York City will get you the equivalent of two
> >teaspoons of sugar and two of those tiny plastic servings of half and
> >half in your coffee.
>
> If you say so. Although I grew up in NYC, I have no memory of that.,
> perhaps because I never ordered it that way.

Maybe someone could explain to Fatuous Blake that lar3 was quoting
something written more than 20 years ago.

But it probably wasn't true in 1999, either.

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 by: Ken Blake - Sat, 14 May 2022 21:55 UTC

On Sat, 14 May 2022 17:25:40 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>We use a Keurig coffee maker that uses pods. We buy Gevalia (Amazon,
>ordered one day, delivered the next) pods. A bit more expensive than
>using ground coffee, but worth it to us in convenience.

Keurig coffee makers are very popular and I understand the
convenience. However personally I avoid them. As far as I'm concerned,
two of the important things in the quality of the coffee are how long
ago it was roasted, and how long ago it was ground.

I also avoid ground coffee. I buy beans and I grind them myself just
before I use it. Yes, your way is much easier and more convenient than
mine, but mine isn't very troublesome and I'm willing to go to a
little extra trouble to get what I think is a better result.

Even better would be if I roasted it myself, but that would be *too
much* trouble, even for me.

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 by: lar3ryca - Sat, 14 May 2022 22:42 UTC

On 2022-05-14 15:25, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:06:37 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>> I doubt it very much. I know that ordering coffee in a coffee shop or
>> diner, 'regular' in New York City will get you the equivalent of two
>> teaspoons of sugar and two of those tiny plastic servings of half and
>> half in your coffee. This is, apparently, considered excessive
>> elsewhere, (1) and I have to order my coffee light and sweet.
>
> I have no general objection to hyperbole, but this seems to be
> excessive. I have never experienced a problem anywhere in the
> restriction of sugar packets or containers of "creamer". You may have
> to ask for more, but they will be forthcoming.

Attributions messed up by '>' in the posting I pasted. Just sayin', so
nobody thinks I said that.

Anyway, I see no hyperbole there. Absent any other restrictions or
requestsn to the server, ordering a 'regular coffee' in NYC will (or
would have, when I was last there) get you pretty much what was described.

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