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* One-syllable "mirror" reduxQuinn C
`* Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxKen Blake
 +- Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxStefan Ram
 +* Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxSam Plusnet
 |+* Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxPeter Moylan
 ||+- Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxQuinn C
 ||`* Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxKen Blake
 || +* Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxQuinn C
 || |`* Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxlar3ryca
 || | +* Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxRichard Heathfield
 || | |`* Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxlar3ryca
 || | | +- Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxRichard Heathfield
 || | | `- Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxSnidely
 || | +- Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxlar3ryca
 || | `- Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxlar3ryca
 || +- Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxKerr-Mudd, John
 || `- Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxPeter Moylan
 |`- Re: One-syllable "mirror" reduxJerry Friedman
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 by: Quinn C - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:59 UTC

Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
Not a comedy podcast.

- ... the whore she has become.
- The what!?
- The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.

--
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 by: Ken Blake - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:20 UTC

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
<lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:

>Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
>and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
>Not a comedy podcast.
>
> - ... the whore she has become.
> - The what!?
> - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.

I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
doesn't even rhyme with "whore."

I pronounce it as HAR-er.

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 by: Stefan Ram - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:46 UTC

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> writes:
>I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
>doesn't even rhyme with "whore."

Based on dictionaries (en-US):

whore hɔːɹ, hoˑʊɹ, hʊᵊɹ (=hoar)
horror hɔːɹ ᵊɹ̩, ˈhɑːɹ-

. So, "horror" is supposed to have two syllables. According
to me this means that in the middle of [ɹɹ̩] there should be
a reduction in intensity and/or the second [ɹ̩] should be more
intense (syllabic).

ᵊ is where some speakers insert a schwa [ə]
, comma separates alternative pronunciations
- gives alternative pronunciation of a part of a word
ɹ American r sound

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 23:09 UTC

On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>
>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
>> and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>
>> - ... the whore she has become.
>> - The what!?
>> - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>
>
> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>
> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>

Does this work for you?

"I say, isn't that Hortence?"

"No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Peter Moylan - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 02:15 UTC

On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>
>>> - ... the whore she has become.
>>> - The what!?
>>> - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>
>>
>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>
>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>
> Does this work for you?
>
> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>
> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."

It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
anyone called Hortence.

My whore and my horror have completely different vowels, but I have met
Americans for whom those two words are homophobes.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

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 by: Quinn C - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:24 UTC

* Peter Moylan:

> My whore and my horror have completely different vowels, but I have met
> Americans for whom those two words are homophobes.

And I've met Australians who may have thought "homophobes" and
"homophones" are homographs.

--
Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)

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 by: Ken Blake - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:13 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
<peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>
>>>> - ... the whore she has become.
>>>> - The what!?
>>>> - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>
>>>
>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>
>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>
>> Does this work for you?
>>
>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>
>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>
>It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>anyone called Hortence.
>
>My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,

What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?

> but I have met
>Americans for whom those two words are homophobes.

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 by: Quinn C - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:14 UTC

* Ken Blake:

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
>>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
>>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>>
>>>>> - ... the whore she has become.
>>>>> - The what!?
>>>>> - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
>>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>>
>>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>>
>>> Does this work for you?
>>>
>>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>>
>>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>>
>>It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>>anyone called Hortence.
>>
>>My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>
> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?

And can I borrow her vowel? I get bored of mine.

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"I didn't mind getting old when I was young, either," I said.
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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:01 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:13:42 -0700
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>
> >On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> >> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
> >>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
> >>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
> >>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
> >>>> Not a comedy podcast.
> >>>>
> >>>> - ... the whore she has become.
> >>>> - The what!?
> >>>> - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
> >>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
> >>>
> >>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
> >>
> >> Does this work for you?
> >>
> >> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
> >>
> >> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
> >
> >It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
> >anyone called Hortence.
> >
> >My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>
>
> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?
>
is this to do with the US expression about f*** you and the whore you rode in on?

>
> > but I have met
> >Americans for whom those two words are homophobes.
(like)

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 by: lar3ryca - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 20:00 UTC

On 2022-04-27 11:14, Quinn C wrote:
> * Ken Blake:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
>>>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
>>>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - ... the whore she has become.
>>>>>> - The what!?
>>>>>> - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
>>>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>>>
>>>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>>>
>>>> Does this work for you?
>>>>
>>>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>>>
>>>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>>>
>>> It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>>> anyone called Hortence.
>>>
>>> My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>>
>> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?
>
> And can I borrow her vowel? I get bored of mine.

Sure thing, Quonn.

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 20:12 UTC

On 27/04/2022 9:00 pm, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-04-27 11:14, Quinn C wrote:
>> * Ken Blake:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least
>>>>>>> believable,
>>>>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during
>>>>>>> preparation.
>>>>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - ... the whore she has become.
>>>>>>>    - The what!?
>>>>>>>    - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first
>>>>>> syllable
>>>>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>>>>
>>>>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>>>>
>>>> It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>>>> anyone called Hortence.
>>>>
>>>> My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>>>
>>> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?
>>
>> And can I borrow her vowel? I get bored of mine.
>
> Sure thing, Quonn.

Quorn, surely?

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 by: lar3ryca - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 20:27 UTC

On 2022-04-27 14:12, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 27/04/2022 9:00 pm, lar3ryca wrote:
>> On 2022-04-27 11:14, Quinn C wrote:
>>> * Ken Blake:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
>>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>>>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>>>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least
>>>>>>>> believable,
>>>>>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during
>>>>>>>> preparation.
>>>>>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - ... the whore she has become.
>>>>>>>>    - The what!?
>>>>>>>>    - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first
>>>>>>> syllable
>>>>>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>>>>>
>>>>> It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>>>>> anyone called Hortence.
>>>>>
>>>>> My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>>>>
>>>> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?
>>>
>>> And can I borrow her vowel? I get bored of mine.
>>
>> Sure thing, Quonn.
>
> Quorn, surely?

Definitely not in my dialect, or, I might guess, in Quonn's.

Rhotic I am.

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 20:43 UTC

On 27/04/2022 9:27 pm, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-04-27 14:12, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 27/04/2022 9:00 pm, lar3ryca wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-27 11:14, Quinn C wrote:
>>>> * Ken Blake:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
>>>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>>>>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>>>>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least
>>>>>>>>> believable,
>>>>>>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during
>>>>>>>>> preparation.
>>>>>>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - ... the whore she has become.
>>>>>>>>>    - The what!?
>>>>>>>>>    - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first
>>>>>>>> syllable
>>>>>>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this work for you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>>>>>> anyone called Hortence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>>>>>
>>>>> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?
>>>>
>>>> And can I borrow her vowel? I get bored of mine.
>>>
>>> Sure thing, Quonn.
>>
>> Quorn, surely?
>
> Definitely not in my dialect, or, I might guess, in Quonn's.
>
> Rhotic I am.

After N years of subscribing to this group, my curiosity has finally
overcome my guilt, and I have looked up "rhotic". As far as I can tell I
do not have a rhot currently plugged in.

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Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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On 2022-04-27 14:00, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-04-27 11:14, Quinn C wrote:
>> * Ken Blake:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least
>>>>>>> believable,
>>>>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during
>>>>>>> preparation.
>>>>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - ... the whore she has become.
>>>>>>>    - The what!?
>>>>>>>    - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first
>>>>>> syllable
>>>>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>>>>
>>>>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>>>>
>>>> It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>>>> anyone called Hortence.
>>>>
>>>> My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>>>
>>> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?
>>
>> And can I borrow her vowel? I get bored of mine.
>
> Sure thing, Quonn.

I was going to add a signature, but could not find it. So here it is:

--
Chris: "Hey can I borrow a ten?"
Kristen: "Sure."
Christen: "Thank you."
Kris: 'You're welcome."

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 by: Snidely - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:52 UTC

Wednesday, lar3ryca murmurred ...
> On 2022-04-27 14:12, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 27/04/2022 9:00 pm, lar3ryca wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-27 11:14, Quinn C wrote:
>>>> * Ken Blake:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
>>>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>>>>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>>>>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least
>>>>>>>>> believable,
>>>>>>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during
>>>>>>>>> preparation.
>>>>>>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - ... the whore she has become.
>>>>>>>>>    - The what!?
>>>>>>>>>    - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first
>>>>>>>> syllable
>>>>>>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this work for you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>>>>>> anyone called Hortence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>>>>>
>>>>> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?
>>>>
>>>> And can I borrow her vowel? I get bored of mine.
>>>
>>> Sure thing, Quonn.
>>
>> Quorn, surely?
>
> Definitely not in my dialect, or, I might guess, in Quonn's.
>
> Rhotic I am.

To me, rhotic makes Quorn and whore closer than Quonn and whore.

/dps "it's a bore, isn't it?"

--
"I'm glad unicorns don't ever need upgrades."
"We are as up as it is possible to get graded!"
_Phoebe and Her Unicorn_, 2016.05.15

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 by: Peter Moylan - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 01:22 UTC

On 28/04/22 02:13, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
>>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
>>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>>
>>>>> - ... the whore she has become.
>>>>> - The what!?
>>>>> - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
>>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>>
>>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>>
>>> Does this work for you?
>>>
>>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>>
>>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>>
>> It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>> anyone called Hortence.
>>
>> My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>
> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?

Certainly more beautiful than my horror.

>> but I have met
>> Americans for whom those two words are homophobes.

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 by: lar3ryca - Wed, 18 May 2022 21:01 UTC

On 2022-04-27 14:57, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-04-27 14:00, lar3ryca wrote:
>> On 2022-04-27 11:14, Quinn C wrote:
>>> * Ken Blake:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:15:59 +1000, Peter Moylan
>>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/04/22 09:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
>>>>>>> <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
>>>>>>>> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least
>>>>>>>> believable,
>>>>>>>> and it might be something that happened naturally during
>>>>>>>> preparation.
>>>>>>>> Not a comedy podcast.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - ... the whore she has become.
>>>>>>>>    - The what!?
>>>>>>>>    - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first
>>>>>>> syllable
>>>>>>> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I pronounce it as HAR-er.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."
>>>>>
>>>>> It works for me, but I have to say that I have never in my life met
>>>>> anyone called Hortence.
>>>>>
>>>>> My whore and my horror have completely different vowels,
>>>>
>>>> What's your whore's name? Is she beautiful?
>>>
>>> And can I borrow her vowel? I get bored of mine.
>>
>> Sure thing, Quonn.
>
> I was going to add a signature, but could  not find it. So here it is:
>

Testing an idea for generating a random signature.

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On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:20:25 PM UTC-6, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
> <lispa...@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>
> >Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
> >intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
> >and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
> >Not a comedy podcast.
> >
> > - ... the whore she has become.
> > - The what!?
> > - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.

> I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
> doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
>
> I pronounce it as HAR-er.

That's 'cause you're from New York. (The region where people say
HAR-er, FLAR-ida, etc., is actually bigger than that.)

--
Jerry Friedman

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 by: Jerry Friedman - Wed, 18 May 2022 23:11 UTC

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:09:06 PM UTC-6, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 26-Apr-22 20:20, Ken Blake wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:59:31 -0400, Quinn C
> > <lispa...@crommatograph.info> wrote:
> >
> >> Here's a bit a pair of podcasters did. I'm almost sure they did it
> >> intentionally, but they must have thought it was at least believable,
> >> and it might be something that happened naturally during preparation.
> >> Not a comedy podcast.
> >>
> >> - ... the whore she has become.
> >> - The what!?
> >> - The horror she has become. It's a difficult word.
> >
> >
> > I've heard "horror" pronounced like that, but to me its first syllable
> > doesn't even rhyme with "whore."
> >
> > I pronounce it as HAR-er.
> >
> Does this work for you?
>
> "I say, isn't that Hortence?"
>
> "No, she looks perfectly relaxed to me."

The words where Ken pronounces "or" with the "father" vowel probably
line up pretty well with those where you pronounce it with the LOT
vowel.

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