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Re: Suffolk pink

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 by: HVS - Tue, 17 May 2022 17:10 UTC

On 17 May 2022, Jerry Friedman wrote

> On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 5:01:56 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
>> In article <jeeaj6...@mid.individual.net>, nob...@nowhere.nix
>> says...
>>> I am trying to find the Lancashire name for blood sausage
>>> (sounds like e-chi-tump ?). Anyone?
>
>> The Lancashire term you're looking for is ecky thump, which does
>> not mean black pudding. It's an expression of surprise/disbelief,
>> similar to "ee by gum" and "bloomin heck".
>
> And Yorkshire? My mother has a refrigerator magnet printed with a
> number of Yorkshire expressions, including "Ee by gum" too. (It's
> a gift from my older niece, who lived in Yorkshire for a few
> years.) The Internet confirms the impression of one of my
> functioning brain cells that Lancs is adjacent to West Yorks.

Although "ee" and "bah gum" remain in current use, I'm not sure how
common it is these days to use the full "ee bah gum", other than as
part of a "funny northerner" caricature.

(Anecdotal dating point)

My grandmother was born in 1895 in Fallowfield (now part of
Manchester), and emigrated to Canada in 1928, aged 33. She lost
direct touch with her relatives (she and my grandfather didn't make a
return visit to England until the late 1960s), which I think
effectively froze her informal/regional usage in 1928.

She used the full "ee bah gum" rather than "ee" or "bah gum" on their
own, and as far as I recall that's the only time I've heard it used
naturally and colloquially, rather than for comic effect.

So the full expression was still alive in the wild in the 1920s --
but later than that, I'm not so sure.

--
Cheers, Harvey

..

she'd the only.

Not only did Her accent her accent and usage was effectively frozen
in time.

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From: lar...@invalid.ca (lar3ryca)
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 by: lar3ryca - Tue, 17 May 2022 17:17 UTC

On 2022-05-17 10:14, musika wrote:
> On 17/05/2022 16:30, CDB wrote:
>> On 5/16/2022 7:12 PM, musika wrote:
>>> Paul Wolff wrote:
>>>> musika posted:
>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>> musika wrote:
>>>>>>> Paul Wolff wrote:
>>>>>>>> Janet posted:
>>>>>>>>> nobody@nowhere.nix says...
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to find the Lancashire name for blood sausage
>>>>>>>>>> (sounds like e-chi-tump ?). Anyone?
>>
>>>>>>>>> The Lancashire term you're looking for is ecky thump, which
>>>>>>>>> does not mean  black pudding. It's an expression
>>>>>>>>> of surprise/disbelief, similar to "ee by gum"  and
>>>>>>>>> "bloomin heck".
>>
>>>>>>>> I associate it with Bill Oddie, a northern lad[1], in long-ago
>>>>>>>> BBC radio comedy. Perhaps I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again.
>>
>>>>>>>> [1] Term includes Lancastrians.
>>
>>>>>>> He's probably thinking of The Goodies. In one episode,
>>>>>>> "ecky thump" is  a secret Lancastrian martial art using
>>>>>>> black puddings as a weapon.
>>
>>>>>> The Goodies - Kung Fu Kapers, apparently.
>>
>>>>> Yes. Monty Python had already done Llap Goch.
>>
>>>> Is that distinct from the fish-slapping dance - or an umbrella term?
>>
>>> It was a secret Welsh martial art. It appeared in their second
>>> book.
>>
>>> <https://cdn2.apstatic.com/photos/climb/106848340_large_1494145373.jpg>
>>
>>>
>> Hidden depths. Isn't that a Welshwoman's hat he has on?
>>>
>> That he has.

Perhaps more importantly, are they pronouns "nhw" and "eu'?

--
The universe is made up of protons, neutrons, electrons and morons.

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 by: Peter Moylan - Wed, 18 May 2022 02:07 UTC

On 18/05/22 00:17, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:12:34 +1000 Peter Moylan
> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 17/05/22 17:14, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 21:54:12 +0100 musika
>>> <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> He's probably thinking of The Goodies. In one episode, "ecky
>>>> thump" is a secret Lancastrian martial art using black
>>>> puddings as a weapon.
>>>>
>>> They weren't that secretive, what with the outsized flatcaps.
>>
>> One of my cats keeps getting bigger. I've been thinking of getting
>> an outsized ...
>>
>> Oh, sorry, you were talking about something else. As you were.
>
> DO you get any possums or something else cat-sized calling in?
> wouldn't want it dingo-sized.

There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but it's never
tried to get into the house.

The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a servant to
open a door, is through the garage window, which we leave open during
the day but close at night. From there they can use the cat-flap that is
in the door between the garage and the main part of the house. That's an
itinerary that is consistent with cat logic, but is probably too
complicated for a possum.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

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 by: Peter Moylan - Wed, 18 May 2022 02:11 UTC

On 18/05/22 02:36, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 5:01:56 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
>> In article <jeeaj6...@mid.individual.net>, nob...@nowhere.nix
>> says...

>>> I am trying to find the Lancashire name for blood sausage (sounds
>>> like e-chi-tump ?). Anyone?
>
>> The Lancashire term you're looking for is ecky thump, which does
>> not mean black pudding. It's an expression of surprise/disbelief,
>> similar to "ee by gum" and "bloomin heck".
>
> And Yorkshire? My mother has a refrigerator magnet printed with a
> number of Yorkshire expressions, including "Ee by gum" too. (It's a
> gift from my older niece, who lived in Yorkshire for a few years.)
> The Internet confirms the impression of one of my functioning brain
> cells that Lancs is adjacent to West Yorks.

It's a pity that we've lost so many local informants over the years. AUE
used to have a regular, I recall, who lived in Wet Yorks.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

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 by: Tony Cooper - Wed, 18 May 2022 03:21 UTC

On Wed, 18 May 2022 12:11:16 +1000, Peter Moylan
<peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 18/05/22 02:36, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>> On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 5:01:56 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
>>> In article <jeeaj6...@mid.individual.net>, nob...@nowhere.nix
>>> says...
>
>>>> I am trying to find the Lancashire name for blood sausage (sounds
>>>> like e-chi-tump ?). Anyone?
>>
>>> The Lancashire term you're looking for is ecky thump, which does
>>> not mean black pudding. It's an expression of surprise/disbelief,
>>> similar to "ee by gum" and "bloomin heck".
>>
>> And Yorkshire? My mother has a refrigerator magnet printed with a
>> number of Yorkshire expressions, including "Ee by gum" too. (It's a
>> gift from my older niece, who lived in Yorkshire for a few years.)
>> The Internet confirms the impression of one of my functioning brain
>> cells that Lancs is adjacent to West Yorks.
>
>It's a pity that we've lost so many local informants over the years. AUE
>used to have a regular, I recall, who lived in Wet Yorks.

Linz (Amethyst Deceiver) was from: Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York,
London and Watford
--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Wed, 18 May 2022 09:13 UTC

On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> On 18/05/22 00:17, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:12:34 +1000 Peter Moylan
>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 17/05/22 17:14, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 21:54:12 +0100 musika
>>>> <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> He's probably thinking of The Goodies. In one episode, "ecky
>>>>> thump" is a secret Lancastrian martial art using black
>>>>> puddings as a weapon.
>>>>>
>>>> They weren't that secretive, what with the outsized flatcaps.
>>>
>>> One of my cats keeps getting bigger. I've been thinking of getting
>>> an outsized ...
>>>
>>> Oh, sorry, you were talking about something else. As you were.
>>
>> DO you get any possums or something else cat-sized calling in?
>> wouldn't want it dingo-sized.
>
> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but it's never
> tried to get into the house.
>
> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a servant to
> open a door,

How many servants do you have? Somehow I hadn't pictured you as having
a butler and a team of lesser servants.

> is through the garage window, which we leave open during
> the day but close at night. From there they can use the cat-flap that is
> in the door between the garage and the main part of the house. That's an
> itinerary that is consistent with cat logic, but is probably too
> complicated for a possum.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Wed, 18 May 2022 09:25 UTC

On 18/05/2022 10:13 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>

<snip>

>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but
>> it's never
>> tried to get into the house.
>>
>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a
>> servant to
>> open a door,
>
> How many servants do you have?

None, obviously. But the cats have several.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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In message <t5ut35$rt2$3@dont-email.me> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> On 17/05/22 05:02, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 16-May-22 7:51, occam wrote:

>>> The 14th century? When you next google a fact and come up with a
>>> homily like "it has been done in many places", make sure it
>>> precedes the example you are dissing. I am guessing there is a
>>> reason why it has ended up being called the 'Suffolk pink' and not
>>> the 'Lancashire pink' or the 'Aberdeenshire rosé'. Historically
>>> most people made sausages with blood, rather than waste it on
>>> walls.
>>
>> "Google a fact"?? You provided a link to an Estate Agent's website
>> FFS!
>>
>> Have they suddenly become the guardians of historical fact? Or do
>> they rank somewhere below used car salesmen on the 'trusted
>> profession' scale?
>>
>> Are there any 14th buildings with the original coating untouched and
>> intact?

> Don;t knock used care salesmen. In the last survey I read about, they
> were more trusted than politicians.

They’re not even in the top ten of least trusted for me, not that I
trust them, of course.

--
I'm on the path, he thought. I don't have to know where it leads. I
just have to follow.

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 by: occam - Wed, 18 May 2022 12:51 UTC

On 18/05/2022 11:13, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>
>> On 18/05/22 00:17, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:12:34 +1000 Peter Moylan
>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 17/05/22 17:14, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 21:54:12 +0100 musika
>>>>> <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> He's probably thinking of The Goodies. In one episode, "ecky
>>>>>> thump" is a secret Lancastrian martial art using black
>>>>>> puddings as a weapon.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They weren't that secretive, what with the outsized flatcaps.
>>>>
>>>> One of my cats keeps getting bigger. I've been thinking of getting
>>>> an outsized ...
>>>>
>>>> Oh, sorry, you were talking about something else. As you were.
>>>
>>> DO you get any possums or something else cat-sized calling in?
>>> wouldn't want it dingo-sized.
>>
>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but it's never
>> tried to get into the house.
>>
>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a servant to
>> open a door,
>
> How many servants do you have? Somehow I hadn't pictured you as having a
> butler and a team of lesser servants.

I think I know their two of the servants' names: Mr Moylan, Mrs. Moylan.
(There may be others.)

>
>>  is through the garage window, which we leave open during
>> the day but close at night. From there they can use the cat-flap that is
>> in the door between the garage and the main part of the house. That's an
>> itinerary that is consistent with cat logic, but is probably too
>> complicated for a possum.
>
>

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Wed, 18 May 2022 13:39 UTC

On 2022-05-18 12:51:45 +0000, occam said:

> On 18/05/2022 11:13, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>>
>>> On 18/05/22 00:17, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:12:34 +1000 Peter Moylan
>>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 17/05/22 17:14, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 21:54:12 +0100 musika
>>>>>> <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's probably thinking of The Goodies. In one episode, "ecky
>>>>>>> thump" is a secret Lancastrian martial art using black
>>>>>>> puddings as a weapon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They weren't that secretive, what with the outsized flatcaps.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my cats keeps getting bigger. I've been thinking of getting
>>>>> an outsized ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, sorry, you were talking about something else. As you were.
>>>>
>>>> DO you get any possums or something else cat-sized calling in?
>>>> wouldn't want it dingo-sized.
>>>
>>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but it's never
>>> tried to get into the house.
>>>
>>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a servant to
>>> open a door,
>>
>> How many servants do you have? Somehow I hadn't pictured you as having a
>> butler and a team of lesser servants.
>
>
> I think I know their two of the servants' names: Mr Moylan, Mrs. Moylan.
> (There may be others.)

Yes, you're probably right. I was forgetting that cats have servants.
>>
>>>  is through the garage window, which we leave open during
>>> the day but close at night. From there they can use the cat-flap that is
>>> in the door between the garage and the main part of the house. That's an
>>> itinerary that is consistent with cat logic, but is probably too
>>> complicated for a possum.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 18 May 2022 14:01 UTC

On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:26:00 AM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 10:13 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> > On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> >> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but
> >> it's never
> >> tried to get into the house.
> >> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a
> >> servant to open a door,
> > How many servants do you have?
>
> None, obviously. But the cats have several.

Wow, Even Heathfield is more clever than Athel.

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 by: occam - Wed, 18 May 2022 15:42 UTC

On 18/05/2022 16:01, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:26:00 AM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 18/05/2022 10:13 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>
>>>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but
>>>> it's never
>>>> tried to get into the house.
>>>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a
>>>> servant to open a door,
>>> How many servants do you have?
>>
>> None, obviously. But the cats have several.
>
> Wow, Even Heathfield is more clever than Athel.

And you are as bitchy as ever. Stop it Daniels.

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 18 May 2022 15:53 UTC

On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 11:42:22 AM UTC-4, occam wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 16:01, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:26:00 AM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> >> On 18/05/2022 10:13 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> >>>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but
> >>>> it's never
> >>>> tried to get into the house.
> >>>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a
> >>>> servant to open a door,
> >>> How many servants do you have?
> >> None, obviously. But the cats have several.
> > Wow, Even Heathfield is more clever than Athel.
>
> And you are as bitchy as ever. Stop it Daniels.

You're just sore that Heathfield got his bitchy comment in
before you got your equally good one in.

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 by: Ken Blake - Wed, 18 May 2022 16:06 UTC

On Wed, 18 May 2022 12:07:57 +1000, Peter Moylan
<peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 18/05/22 00:17, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:12:34 +1000 Peter Moylan
>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 17/05/22 17:14, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 21:54:12 +0100 musika
>>>> <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> He's probably thinking of The Goodies. In one episode, "ecky
>>>>> thump" is a secret Lancastrian martial art using black
>>>>> puddings as a weapon.
>>>>>
>>>> They weren't that secretive, what with the outsized flatcaps.
>>>
>>> One of my cats keeps getting bigger. I've been thinking of getting
>>> an outsized ...
>>>
>>> Oh, sorry, you were talking about something else. As you were.
>>
>> DO you get any possums or something else cat-sized calling in?
>> wouldn't want it dingo-sized.
>
>There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but it's never
>tried to get into the house.
>
>The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a servant to
>open a door,

Train your cat to say "Jeeves, open the door--NOW!"

>is through the garage window, which we leave open during
>the day but close at night. From there they can use the cat-flap that is
>in the door between the garage and the main part of the house. That's an
>itinerary that is consistent with cat logic, but is probably too
>complicated for a possum.

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Wed, 18 May 2022 16:31 UTC

On 18/05/2022 4:42 pm, occam wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 16:01, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:26:00 AM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> On 18/05/2022 10:13 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>>
>>>>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but
>>>>> it's never
>>>>> tried to get into the house.
>>>>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a
>>>>> servant to open a door,
>>>> How many servants do you have?
>>>
>>> None, obviously. But the cats have several.
>>
>> Wow, Even Heathfield is more clever than Athel.
>
> And you are as bitchy as ever.

He is also mistaken. Athel is a clever man who missed a joke.
Seen the joke I may have done, but as clever as he I is doubt I am.

> Stop it Daniels.

Good luck with that.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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 by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 18 May 2022 16:53 UTC

On 18-May-22 10:25, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 10:13 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>>
>
> <snip>
>
>>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but it's never
>>> tried to get into the house.
>>>
>>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a servant to
>>> open a door,
>>
>> How many servants do you have?
>
> None, obviously. But the cats have several.
>
The wrong word is being used here.
Servants get paid.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 18 May 2022 16:55 UTC

On 18-May-22 14:39, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>
> Yes, you're probably right. I was forgetting that cats have servants.

From which I deduce that you do not share accommodation with cats.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Wed, 18 May 2022 17:00 UTC

On 2022-05-18 16:55:31 +0000, Sam Plusnet said:

> On 18-May-22 14:39, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>
>> Yes, you're probably right. I was forgetting that cats have servants.
>
> From which I deduce that you do not share accommodation with cats.

Many years ago I did. The first house we bought (in 1971) came with a
cat already in residence.

Before that there were at least two cats when I was a child.

Both were a long time ago.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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 by: charles - Wed, 18 May 2022 17:21 UTC

In article <jejrluFovtbU1@mid.individual.net>,
Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> > On 18/05/22 00:17, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> >> On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:12:34 +1000 Peter Moylan
> >> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 17/05/22 17:14, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 21:54:12 +0100 musika
> >>>> <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> He's probably thinking of The Goodies. In one episode, "ecky
> >>>>> thump" is a secret Lancastrian martial art using black
> >>>>> puddings as a weapon.
> >>>>>
> >>>> They weren't that secretive, what with the outsized flatcaps.
> >>>
> >>> One of my cats keeps getting bigger. I've been thinking of getting
> >>> an outsized ...
> >>>
> >>> Oh, sorry, you were talking about something else. As you were.
> >>
> >> DO you get any possums or something else cat-sized calling in?
> >> wouldn't want it dingo-sized.
> >
> > There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but it's never
> > tried to get into the house.
> >
> > The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a servant to
> > open a door,

> How many servants do you have? Somehow I hadn't pictured you as having
> a butler and a team of lesser servants.

cats treat all humans as servants.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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On 2022-05-18 10:06, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 12:07:57 +1000, Peter Moylan
> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 18/05/22 00:17, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:12:34 +1000 Peter Moylan
>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 17/05/22 17:14, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 21:54:12 +0100 musika
>>>>> <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> He's probably thinking of The Goodies. In one episode, "ecky
>>>>>> thump" is a secret Lancastrian martial art using black
>>>>>> puddings as a weapon.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They weren't that secretive, what with the outsized flatcaps.
>>>>
>>>> One of my cats keeps getting bigger. I've been thinking of getting
>>>> an outsized ...
>>>>
>>>> Oh, sorry, you were talking about something else. As you were.
>>>
>>> DO you get any possums or something else cat-sized calling in?
>>> wouldn't want it dingo-sized.
>>
>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but it's never
>> tried to get into the house.
>>
>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a servant to
>> open a door,
>
>
> Train your cat to say "Jeeves, open the door--NOW!"

All my cats have already known how to say that, but I am not fluent in Cat.

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 18 May 2022 20:04 UTC

On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 12:31:45 PM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 4:42 pm, occam wrote:
> > On 18/05/2022 16:01, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:26:00 AM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> >>> On 18/05/2022 10:13 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> >>>>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but
> >>>>> it's never
> >>>>> tried to get into the house.
> >>>>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a
> >>>>> servant to open a door,
> >>>> How many servants do you have?
> >>> None, obviously. But the cats have several.
> >> Wow, Even Heathfield is more clever than Athel.
> > And you are as bitchy as ever.
>
> He is also mistaken. Athel is a clever man

Maybe he used to be. He has visibly declined over the past year or so.

> who missed a joke.
> Seen the joke I may have done, but as clever as he I is doubt I am.

No quarrel there.

> > Stop it Daniels.
>
> Good luck with that.

Right. Ignore the follow-up, because you're afraid to see it.

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 18 May 2022 20:06 UTC

On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 12:54:03 PM UTC-4, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 18-May-22 10:25, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> > On 18/05/2022 10:13 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >> On 2022-05-18 02:07:57 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> >>> There's a possum that occasionally runs along our fences, but it's never
> >>> tried to get into the house.
> >>> The way our cats get into the house, when they can't get a servant to
> >>> open a door,
> >> How many servants do you have?
> > None, obviously. But the cats have several.
>
> The wrong word is being used here.
> Servants get paid.

Cats richly repay Staff with cuddles and rubs and purrs and antics.

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 by: Peter Moylan - Thu, 19 May 2022 00:58 UTC

On 19/05/22 03:00, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-05-18 16:55:31 +0000, Sam Plusnet said:
>
>> On 18-May-22 14:39, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, you're probably right. I was forgetting that cats have
>>> servants.
>>
>> From which I deduce that you do not share accommodation with cats.
>
> Many years ago I did. The first house we bought (in 1971) came with a
> cat already in residence.

The cat wasn't willing to move, right?

At least twice I have changed addresses while being owned by a cat.
Getting the cat to settle in the new place was a major problem, both times.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Thu, 19 May 2022 07:16 UTC

On 2022-05-19 00:58:49 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> On 19/05/22 03:00, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2022-05-18 16:55:31 +0000, Sam Plusnet said:
>>
>>> On 18-May-22 14:39, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you're probably right. I was forgetting that cats have
>>>> servants.
>>>
>>> From which I deduce that you do not share accommodation with cats.
>>
>> Many years ago I did. The first house we bought (in 1971) came with a
>> cat already in residence.
>
> The cat wasn't willing to move, right?
>
> At least twice I have changed addresses while being owned by a cat.
> Getting the cat to settle in the new place was a major problem, both times.

When we moved from South Devon to Greater Manchester in 1954 our cat
was extremely displeased with the move, and tried to get back, but it's
a long way to walk. It disappeared for several months, but was
eventually found about 50 km from where we lived, but we were never
sure it was the same cat, as it was uniformly black, and not easy to
distinguish from other uniformly black cats. There is a cat around here
(not ours) that would be recognizable anywhere, as it's a very obvious
example of X-inactivation.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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In message <jekn16Fu39nU1@mid.individual.net> Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> On 2022-05-18 16:55:31 +0000, Sam Plusnet said:

>> On 18-May-22 14:39, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, you're probably right. I was forgetting that cats have servants.
>>
>> From which I deduce that you do not share accommodation with cats.

> Many years ago I did. The first house we bought (in 1971) came with a
> cat already in residence.

> Before that there were at least two cats when I was a child.

Up until I was bout 13 we always had at least one cat hanging around,
but I've not had a cat since them, I was mostly transient from 14yo-20yo
so had not pets and also I was mostly around my future (and current)
wife who is very allergic to cats.

One of my moms was also very allergic to cats, but she had an outdoor
cat who cane by every day to eat, poop, and destroy a outside plant on
occasions. He didn't come in the house.

--
people didn't seem to be able to remember what it was like with the
elves around. Life was certainly more interesting then, but
usually because it was shorter. And it was more colourful, if you
liked the colour of blood. --Lords and Ladies

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