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Re: Asshat

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Fri, 20 May 2022 13:44 UTC

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:05:12 PM UTC-4, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 12:39:24 PM UTC-6, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 4:39:10 PM UTC-4, Jerry Friedman wrote:

> > > As PTD said, the first one
> > > is "I am Yahweh your God..." which is not a commandment. Wikipedia
> > > tabulates eight ways in which different religions or traditions break the passage
> > > up into ten sayings or commandments.
> > The first one is
> >
> > KJV Exod 20:2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the
> > land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. [3] Thou shalt have no other
> > gods before me.
> >
> > That's certainly a commandment!
>
> Well, half of it is.
>
> No doubt you've now seen at Wikipedia or elsewhere how the Jewish
> (Talmudic) numbering goes.

Um, the Old Law was superseded by the New Law? (Saul/Paul somewhere)

> > #2 is graven images, #3 is swearing, #4 is the Sabbath, #5 is father and
> > mother, and ##6-10 are the earthly sins (murder, adultery, theft, lying,
> > coveting).
>
> That's what Wikipedia calls the Reformed Christian numbering, also in the
> Anglican prayerbook.

The point being that Catholics love their graven images, so they fold
#2 into #1 and have to divide #10 somehow to get two out of it..

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 by: Jerry Friedman - Fri, 20 May 2022 14:21 UTC

On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 2:02:38 AM UTC-6, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
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> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring forth. No?

Some of us would. No measurable precipitation here since March 23.

> I'm going back to graven images then).

A serious comment.

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 by: Jerry Friedman - Fri, 20 May 2022 14:26 UTC

On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 5:31:03 AM UTC-6, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2022 20:26:04 +1000
> Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
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> > Water diviners still exist, but I have no idea how good their success
> > rate is.

> I dunno, but I've made it work using
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#Pair_of_rods
> (plus a pair of biro outers)

The cap or the plastic casing of a Bic pen?

> It could be I'm fooling myself.

If you dig anywhere in Britain, don't you hit water pretty soon?

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Fri, 20 May 2022 15:37 UTC

On Fri, 20 May 2022 07:26:31 -0700 (PDT)
Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 5:31:03 AM UTC-6, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 May 2022 20:26:04 +1000
> > Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> ...
>
> > > Water diviners still exist, but I have no idea how good their success
> > > rate is.
>
> > I dunno, but I've made it work using
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#Pair_of_rods
> > (plus a pair of biro outers)
>
> The cap or the plastic casing of a Bic pen?

Well, the casing to allow the coathan^w wires to rotate.
>
> > It could be I'm fooling myself.
>
> If you dig anywhere in Britain, don't you hit water pretty soon?
>
You're likely to hit rock. But we were just looking for buried pipes.
> --
> Jerry Friedman

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Fri, 20 May 2022 18:48 UTC

On 20-May-22 12:30, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2022 20:26:04 +1000
> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 20/05/22 17:58, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> [Hebrews 1 Canaanites 0]
>>>
>>> That ark wasn't very portable; yu'd think Yahweh might come up with a
>>> personal one, pshurely the tech must've moved on by now.
>>
>> He did. It was eventually copied onto scrolls. A much better solution
>> than carrying around two heavy stones.
>>
>>> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
>>> forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
>>
>> Water diviners still exist, but I have no idea how good their success
>> rate is.
>
> I dunno, but I've made it work using
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#Pair_of_rods
> (plus a pair of biro outers)
>
> It could be I'm fooling myself.

Finding water in South Wales is not a challenge.

Finding a spot where I can dig a planting hole for a shrub, where I
don't hit the water table six inches down - now that would be a handy skill.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Quinn C - Fri, 20 May 2022 22:38 UTC

* Kerr-Mudd, John:

> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
> forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).

I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
craven images. Is that ok?

--
....an explanatory principle - like "gravity" or "instinct" -
really explains nothing. It's a sort of conventional agreement
between scientists to stop trying to explain things at a
certain point. -- Gregory Bateson

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On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 3:38:21 PM UTC-7, Quinn C wrote:
> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
> > (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
> > forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
> I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
> craven images. Is that ok?
>
Yes, but no raven images. Nevermore.

bill

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Sat, 21 May 2022 06:42 UTC

On Fri, 20 May 2022 18:38:13 -0400
Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:

> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>
> > (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
> > forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
>
> I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
> craven images. Is that ok?
>
I think "Lustful thoughts" comes under "sins of the flesh", but IANAGB.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Sat, 21 May 2022 06:44 UTC

On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
"bil...@shaw.ca" <billvan@shaw.ca> wrote:

> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 3:38:21 PM UTC-7, Quinn C wrote:
> > * Kerr-Mudd, John:
> > > (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
> > > forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
> > I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
> > craven images. Is that ok?
> >
> Yes, but no raven images. Nevermore.
>
"No Corvids where harmed in the making of this picture"

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* "Kerr-Mudd, John" <20220520163713.332c7802bcdfa13f29adc072 @127.0.0.1> :
Wrote on Fri, 20 May 2022 16:37:13 +0100:
> On Fri, 20 May 2022 07:26:31 -0700 (PDT)
> Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > I dunno, but I've made it work using
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#Pair_of_rods
>> > (plus a pair of biro outers)
>>
>> The cap or the plastic casing of a Bic pen?
>
> Well, the casing to allow the coathan^w wires to rotate.
>>
>> > It could be I'm fooling myself.
>>
>> If you dig anywhere in Britain, don't you hit water pretty soon?
>>
> You're likely to hit rock. But we were just looking for buried pipes.

I've heard accounts of it working in Wales, not by engaging water
diviners, but by the DIY skeptics who decided to try finding water/pipes
after others failed.

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 by: Madhu - Sat, 21 May 2022 13:43 UTC

* "Peter T. Daniels" <599d8f23-7c2b-4d9a-a60c-bf8c546a5aa8n @googlegroups.com> :
Wrote on Fri, 20 May 2022 06:39:55 -0700 (PDT):
>
> You needn't believe Gustave Doré or Cecil B. DeMille. The whole Decalogue
> -- and the whole Holiness Code, for that matter -- could have been inscribed
> on a couple of pocket-size cuneiform tablets.
>
> I once did a popular talk (for an "archeology club" of senior
> citizens, in a dining room over a Chinese restaurant on the Upper West
> Side) on what the Ten Commandments might have actually looked like. It
> was before PowerPoint, so I did a paper handout with a variety of
> images, starting with a temple in Yonkers whose facade is in the
> traditional "two stone tablets with arched top" shape, with ten Hebrew
> letters in two columns.

So you said they were 2 copies of 10 commandments and not 5 commandments
on each

Remember - the first sets were written on both sides.

32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables
of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their
sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the
writing of God, graven upon the tables.

Moses broke (brake) those, but he made the second set on the same
pattern

34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like
unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were
in the first tables, which thou brakest.

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 by: lar3ryca - Sat, 21 May 2022 14:02 UTC

On 2022-05-21 00:44, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
> "bil...@shaw.ca" <billvan@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 3:38:21 PM UTC-7, Quinn C wrote:
>>> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
>>>> forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
>>> I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
>>> craven images. Is that ok?
>>>
>> Yes, but no raven images. Nevermore.
>>
> "No Corvids where harmed in the making of this picture"

Sometime in the early stages of the current pandemic, one of the newsies
on TV referred to it as 'Corvid-19".

--
John bought the cups that Daniel had been looking for for him.

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 by: Peter Moylan - Sat, 21 May 2022 15:10 UTC

On 22/05/22 00:02, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-05-21 00:44, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
>> "bil...@shaw.ca" <billvan@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 3:38:21 PM UTC-7, Quinn C wrote:
>>>> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>>> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
>>>>> forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
>>>> I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
>>>> craven images. Is that ok?
>>>>
>>> Yes, but no raven images. Nevermore.
>>>
>> "No Corvids where harmed in the making of this picture"
>
> Sometime in the early stages of the current pandemic, one of the newsies
> on TV referred to it as 'Corvid-19".

We also called it "mad crow disease".

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

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 by: Quinn C - Sat, 21 May 2022 15:14 UTC

* lar3ryca:

> On 2022-05-21 00:44, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
>> "bil...@shaw.ca" <billvan@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 3:38:21 PM UTC-7, Quinn C wrote:
>>>> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>>> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
>>>>> forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
>>>> I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
>>>> craven images. Is that ok?
>>>>
>>> Yes, but no raven images. Nevermore.
>>>
>> "No Corvids where harmed in the making of this picture"
>
> Sometime in the early stages of the current pandemic, one of the newsies
> on TV referred to it as 'Corvid-19".

That brings up memories. One biology course had that kind of project
where you rase a chick, so those chicks turned up in other classrooms.
My Latin teacher (and director of the school) wasn't amused: "I don't
want to catch parrot fever!" It's not just a colorful expression -
chicken can in fact carry parrot fever, and humans can catch it and get
quite sick.

--
Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Sat, 21 May 2022 19:19 UTC

On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 9:43:49 AM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:
> * "Peter T. Daniels" <599d8f23-7c2b-4d9a-a60c-bf8c546a5aa8n @googlegroups..com> :
> Wrote on Fri, 20 May 2022 06:39:55 -0700 (PDT):

> > You needn't believe Gustave Doré or Cecil B. DeMille. The whole Decalogue
> > -- and the whole Holiness Code, for that matter -- could have been inscribed
> > on a couple of pocket-size cuneiform tablets.
> > I once did a popular talk (for an "archeology club" of senior
> > citizens, in a dining room over a Chinese restaurant on the Upper West
> > Side) on what the Ten Commandments might have actually looked like. It
> > was before PowerPoint, so I did a paper handout with a variety of
> > images, starting with a temple in Yonkers whose facade is in the
> > traditional "two stone tablets with arched top" shape, with ten Hebrew
> > letters in two columns.
>
> So you said they were 2 copies of 10 commandments and not 5 commandments
> on each

Hunh?

> Remember - the first sets were written on both sides.

I remember no such thing. Neither Doré nor DeMille depicted any such thing.

> 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables
> of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their
> sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
> 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the
> writing of God, graven upon the tables.
>
> Moses broke (brake) those, but he made the second set on the same
> pattern
>
> 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like
> unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were
> in the first tables, which thou brakest.

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 by: lar3ryca - Sat, 21 May 2022 20:25 UTC

On 2022-05-21 09:10, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 22/05/22 00:02, lar3ryca wrote:
>> On 2022-05-21 00:44, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
>>> "bil...@shaw.ca" <billvan@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 3:38:21 PM UTC-7, Quinn C wrote:
>>>>> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>>>>> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
>>>>>> forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
>>>>> I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
>>>>> craven images. Is that ok?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, but no raven images. Nevermore.
>>>>
>>> "No Corvids where harmed in the making of this picture"
>>
>> Sometime in the early stages of the current pandemic, one of the newsies
>> on TV referred to it as 'Corvid-19".
>
> We also called it "mad crow disease".

Excellent!

That would also work for West Nile Virus, but for a different reason.

--
When you wake up in middle of a dream, do people in your dream say "Wow!
He just disappeared!"?

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On 21-May-22 7:42, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2022 18:38:13 -0400
> Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>
>> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>
>>> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
>>> forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
>>
>> I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
>> craven images. Is that ok?
>>
> I think "Lustful thoughts" comes under "sins of the flesh", but IANAGB.
>

But it's perfectly OK to be a lusty individual.

--
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 by: Quinn C - Sat, 21 May 2022 20:33 UTC

* Kerr-Mudd, John:

> On Fri, 20 May 2022 18:38:13 -0400
> Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
>
>> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>>
>>> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
>>> forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
>>
>> I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
>> craven images. Is that ok?
>>
> I think "Lustful thoughts" comes under "sins of the flesh", but IANAGB.

What, we're giving up on dualism now?

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My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)

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* "Peter T. Daniels" <905108dd-7b84-4b58-9922-935dc6ae93fen @googlegroups.com> :
Wrote on Sat, 21 May 2022 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT):
> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 9:43:49 AM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:
>> * "Peter T. Daniels" <599d8f23-7c2b-4d9a-a60c-bf8c546a5aa8n
>> @googlegroups.com> :
>> Wrote on Fri, 20 May 2022 06:39:55 -0700 (PDT):
>
>> > You needn't believe Gustave Doré or Cecil B. DeMille. The whole Decalogue
>> > -- and the whole Holiness Code, for that matter -- could have been
>> > inscribed
>> > on a couple of pocket-size cuneiform tablets.
>> > I once did a popular talk (for an "archeology club" of senior
>> > citizens, in a dining room over a Chinese restaurant on the Upper West
>> > Side) on what the Ten Commandments might have actually looked like. It
>> > was before PowerPoint, so I did a paper handout with a variety of
>> > images, starting with a temple in Yonkers whose facade is in the
>> > traditional "two stone tablets with arched top" shape, with ten Hebrew
>> > letters in two columns.
>>
>> So you said they were 2 copies of 10 commandments and not 5 commandments
>> on each
>
> Hunh?
>
>> Remember - the first sets were written on both sides.
>
> I remember no such thing. Neither Doré nor DeMille depicted any such thing.

I guess you didn't read beyond this and your eyes glazed over the quoted
portions of the bible. this is the second time you have done that.

the following are not random quotes but were quoted for a reason because
they are relevant to what I asked:

>> 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables
>> of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their
>> sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
>> 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the
>> writing of God, graven upon the tables.
>>
>> Moses broke (brake) those, but he made the second set on the same
>> pattern
>>
>> 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like
>> unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were
>> in the first tables, which thou brakest.

Any talk or representation of the tablets that doesn't take into account
that both sides of each tablet were written on, is uninformed.

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Sun, 22 May 2022 08:47 UTC

On Sat, 21 May 2022 16:33:57 -0400
Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:

> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>
> > On Fri, 20 May 2022 18:38:13 -0400
> > Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:
> >
> >> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
> >>
> >>> (PS we all would like one of those staffs that can make water spring
> >>> forth. No? I'm going back to graven images then).
> >>
> >> I don't dare defy the commandments outright, so I only have some vague
> >> craven images. Is that ok?
> >>
> > I think "Lustful thoughts" comes under "sins of the flesh", but IANAGB.
>
> What, we're giving up on dualism now?
>
I thought you'd be all for non-binary thinking!

--
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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Sun, 22 May 2022 13:32 UTC

On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:33:11 AM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:
> * "Peter T. Daniels" <905108dd-7b84-4b58-9922-935dc6ae93fen @googlegroups..com> :
> Wrote on Sat, 21 May 2022 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT):
> > On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 9:43:49 AM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:
> >> * "Peter T. Daniels" <599d8f23-7c2b-4d9a-a60c-bf8c546a5aa8n
> >> @googlegroups.com> :
> >> Wrote on Fri, 20 May 2022 06:39:55 -0700 (PDT):

> >> > You needn't believe Gustave Doré or Cecil B. DeMille. The whole Decalogue
> >> > -- and the whole Holiness Code, for that matter -- could have been
> >> > inscribed
> >> > on a couple of pocket-size cuneiform tablets.
> >> > I once did a popular talk (for an "archeology club" of senior
> >> > citizens, in a dining room over a Chinese restaurant on the Upper West
> >> > Side) on what the Ten Commandments might have actually looked like. It
> >> > was before PowerPoint, so I did a paper handout with a variety of
> >> > images, starting with a temple in Yonkers whose facade is in the
> >> > traditional "two stone tablets with arched top" shape, with ten Hebrew
> >> > letters in two columns.
> >> So you said they were 2 copies of 10 commandments and not 5 commandments
> >> on each
> > Hunh?
> >> Remember - the first sets were written on both sides.
> > I remember no such thing. Neither Doré nor DeMille depicted any such thing.
>
> I guess you didn't read beyond this and your eyes glazed over the quoted
> portions of the bible. this is the second time you have done that.

Your "Remember" was inappropriate.

> the following are not random quotes but were quoted for a reason because
> they are relevant to what I asked:

That's very nice, but what you asked wasn't relevant to your "question"
about the facade of the synagogue.

Literally the FIRST Google Images hit for < synagogues yonkers ny >
was exactly what I was talking about. It's visible from Central Avenue,
the main commercial highway running north from NYC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Park_Jewish_Center

> >> 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables
> >> of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their
> >> sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
> >> 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the
> >> writing of God, graven upon the tables.
> >> Moses broke (brake) those, but he made the second set on the same
> >> pattern
> >> 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like
> >> unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were
> >> in the first tables, which thou brakest.
>
> Any talk or representation of the tablets that doesn't take into account
> that both sides of each tablet were written on, is uninformed.

So what?

Doubtless if I looked at a commentary it would tell me that the various
accounts of the events are from different sources with different versions
of events, and only fundamentalists are concerned about a "harmony"
of contradictory stories.

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On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 2:33:11 AM UTC-6, Madhu wrote:
> * "Peter T. Daniels" <905108dd-7b84-4b58-9922-935dc6ae93fen @googlegroups..com> :
> Wrote on Sat, 21 May 2022 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT):
> > On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 9:43:49 AM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:
> >> * "Peter T. Daniels" <599d8f23-7c2b-4d9a-a60c-bf8c546a5aa8n
> >> @googlegroups.com> :
> >> Wrote on Fri, 20 May 2022 06:39:55 -0700 (PDT):
> >
> >> > You needn't believe Gustave Doré or Cecil B. DeMille. The whole Decalogue
> >> > -- and the whole Holiness Code, for that matter -- could have been
> >> > inscribed
> >> > on a couple of pocket-size cuneiform tablets.
> >> > I once did a popular talk (for an "archeology club" of senior
> >> > citizens, in a dining room over a Chinese restaurant on the Upper West
> >> > Side) on what the Ten Commandments might have actually looked like. It
> >> > was before PowerPoint, so I did a paper handout with a variety of
> >> > images, starting with a temple in Yonkers whose facade is in the
> >> > traditional "two stone tablets with arched top" shape, with ten Hebrew
> >> > letters in two columns.
> >>
> >> So you said they were 2 copies of 10 commandments and not 5 commandments
> >> on each
> >
> > Hunh?
> >
> >> Remember - the first sets were written on both sides.
> >
> > I remember no such thing. Neither Doré nor DeMille depicted any such thing.
> I guess you didn't read beyond this and your eyes glazed over the quoted
> portions of the bible. this is the second time you have done that.
>
> the following are not random quotes but were quoted for a reason because
> they are relevant to what I asked:
> >> 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables
> >> of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their
> >> sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
> >> 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the
> >> writing of God, graven upon the tables.
> >>
> >> Moses broke (brake) those, but he made the second set on the same
> >> pattern
> >>
> >> 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like
> >> unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were
> >> in the first tables, which thou brakest.

> Any talk or representation of the tablets that doesn't take into account
> that both sides of each tablet were written on, is uninformed.

The Talmud says that means the letters were cut all the way through, and the
centers of the two closed letters, samekh and mem (that is, final mem) (so
they were written in the modern Hebrew alphabet), were held in place by a
miracle. Later authorities say the text miraculously looked the same from
either side, not with one side the mirror image of the other.

(Also the stone was blue sapphire, and each tablet was about 18 by 18 by
9 inches.)

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1114513/jewish/What-Did-the-Tablets-Look-Like.htm

and references therein.

--
Jerry Friedman

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* Jerry Friedman:

> On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 2:33:11 AM UTC-6, Madhu wrote:
>> * "Peter T. Daniels" <905108dd-7b84-4b58-9922-935dc6ae93fen @googlegroups.com> :
>> Wrote on Sat, 21 May 2022 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT):
>>> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 9:43:49 AM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:

>>>> 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like
>>>> unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were
>>>> in the first tables, which thou brakest.
>
>> Any talk or representation of the tablets that doesn't take into account
>> that both sides of each tablet were written on, is uninformed.
>
> The Talmud says that means the letters were cut all the way through, and the
> centers of the two closed letters, samekh and mem (that is, final mem) (so
> they were written in the modern Hebrew alphabet), were held in place by a
> miracle. Later authorities say the text miraculously looked the same from
> either side, not with one side the mirror image of the other.
>
> (Also the stone was blue sapphire, and each tablet was about 18 by 18 by
> 9 inches.)
>
> https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1114513/jewish/What-Did-the-Tablets-Look-Like.htm
>
> and references therein.

That would make them on the order of 180 kg (400 lbs) each. I had to
know.

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On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 10:34:10 AM UTC-4, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 2:33:11 AM UTC-6, Madhu wrote:

> > Any talk or representation of the tablets that doesn't take into account
> > that both sides of each tablet were written on, is uninformed.
>
> The Talmud says that means the letters were cut all the way through, and the
> centers of the two closed letters, samekh and mem (that is, final mem) (so
> they were written in the modern Hebrew alphabet), were held in place by a
> miracle. Later authorities say the text miraculously looked the same from
> either side, not with one side the mirror image of the other.
>
> (Also the stone was blue sapphire, and each tablet was about 18 by 18 by
> 9 inches.)

Wow. What would half a cubic cubit of sapphire weigh? Let alone two of them.

> https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1114513/jewish/What-Did-the-Tablets-Look-Like.htm
>
> and references therein.

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* "Peter T. Daniels" <2d5a6f67-385b-4cb4-992a-55ae99ff9198n @googlegroups.com> :
Wrote on Sun, 22 May 2022 06:32:27 -0700 (PDT):
> On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:33:11 AM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:
>> * "Peter T. Daniels" <905108dd-7b84-4b58-9922-935dc6ae93fen @googlegroups.com> :
>> Wrote on Sat, 21 May 2022 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT):
>> > On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 9:43:49 AM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:
>> >> * "Peter T. Daniels" <599d8f23-7c2b-4d9a-a60c-bf8c546a5aa8n
>> >> @googlegroups.com> :
>> >> Wrote on Fri, 20 May 2022 06:39:55 -0700 (PDT):
>> >> > You needn't believe Gustave Doré or Cecil B. DeMille. The whole
>> >> > Decalogue -- and the whole Holiness Code, for that matter --
>> >> > could have been inscribed on a couple of pocket-size cuneiform
>> >> > tablets. I once did a popular talk (for an "archeology club" of
>> >> > senior citizens, in a dining room over a Chinese restaurant on
>> >> > the Upper West Side) on what the Ten Commandments might have
>> >> > actually looked like. It was before PowerPoint, so I did a paper
>> >> > handout with a variety of images, starting with a temple in
>> >> > Yonkers whose facade is in the traditional "two stone tablets
>> >> > with arched top" shape, with ten Hebrew letters in two columns.
>> >> So you said they were 2 copies of 10 commandments and not 5
>> >> commandments on each
>> > Hunh?
>> >> Remember - the first sets were written on both sides.
>> > I remember no such thing. Neither Doré nor DeMille depicted any
>> > such thing.
>> I guess you didn't read beyond this and your eyes glazed over the
>> quoted portions of the bible. this is the second time you have done
>> that.
> Your "Remember" was inappropriate.
>
>> the following are not random quotes but were quoted for a reason because
>> they are relevant to what I asked:
>
> That's very nice, but what you asked wasn't relevant to your "question"
> about the facade of the synagogue.
>
> Literally the FIRST Google Images hit for < synagogues yonkers ny >
> was exactly what I was talking about. It's visible from Central Avenue,
> the main commercial highway running north from NYC.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Park_Jewish_Center

I found this pic of the old synagogue
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/522cd6e2e4b0a015e8d5c331/1516143622587-M4B16QCCPJEC67U4I59M/Old+Synagogue+Pic+copy.jpg

There are four tablets each depicting 5 characters (I couldn;t tell if
they if the alphabet was in order or what the characters were)
.. presumably the pair on the right are front and back of the first
tablet (aleph to he on the front, wav to yud on the back) , and the pair
on the left are the front and back of the second.

So this pattern suggests the two tablets were not two copies of each
other, but each contained half of the commandments.

The other view that I've heard is that each tablet contained all the
commandments and there were two copies.

>> >> 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables
>> >> of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their
>> >> sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
>> >> 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the
>> >> writing of God, graven upon the tables.
>> >> Moses broke (brake) those, but he made the second set on the same
>> >> pattern
>> >> 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like
>> >> unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were
>> >> in the first tables, which thou brakest.
>>
>> Any talk or representation of the tablets that doesn't take into account
>> that both sides of each tablet were written on, is uninformed.
>
> So what?
>
> Doubtless if I looked at a commentary it would tell me that the various
> accounts of the events are from different sources with different versions
> of events, and only fundamentalists are concerned about a "harmony"
> of contradictory stories.

There isnt any contradiction in the text of exodus about the tablets,
and that is your primary source, you can't ignore it.

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