On Wed, 18 May 2022 22:41:40 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 15:29:58 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 14:40:17 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 14:31:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 13:08:33 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:34 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>> >> > <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 10:30:46 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >> > > Coal can be converted into hydrogen, and coal gas.
>> >> > >> > But it makes a hell of a lot more sense to convert it into
>> >> > >> electricity.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> No, it does not.
>> >> > >> Making electricity at thermal power stations means making coal
>> >> burn to
>> >> > >> make steam.
>> >> > >> This burning process creates a lot of problems - radioactive
>> >> output,
>> >> > >> Sulphur output not to mention CO2.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Coal was turned into coal gas long before electricity was
>> around.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Making coal gas involves passing steam over heated coal, to make
>> >> carbon
>> >> > >> monoxide and hydrogen.
>> >> > >> When the HTN is around (it will start small from islands and
>> >> littoral
>> >> > >> areas, then make deeper inroads
>> >> > >> and finally replace or complement the grid) the hydrogen from
>> coal
>> >> gas
>> >> > >> can be extracted and put into
>> >> > >> the HTN as an ever-available component of the hydrogen economy,
>> >> useful
>> >> > >> when the renewables sources
>> >> > >> have temporary shortfall.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> (htnresearch.com gives details about the HTN.)
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> The CO component could be burnt to heat the water for the steam.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> This way, the polluting aspects of coal can be controlled much
>> more
>> >> > >> effectively, and that will give
>> >> > >> coal an unlimited lease of life, doing thus good for miners and
>> >> mining
>> >> > >> companies.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> When coal is used to make coal gas, the polluting residue
>> remains
>> >> > >> contained, does not
>> >> > >> get blown out into the air, and can be disposed off efficiently.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Of course this is a new idea, for our time, although the idea of
>> >> coal
>> >> > >> gas is ancient.
>> >> > >> Old is gold, in this case. Coal gas, hydrogen, airships, etc.
>> must
>> >> come
>> >> > >> back.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> it is with the certainty that the ruling elites will not always
>> be
>> >> > >> biased and corrupt, that guides the original
>> >> > >> works of
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandhi) Banerjee, greatest genius of
>> all
>> >> > >> time, sole god among lotsa devils,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> who can only hope that Albo will go for the HTN. He has
>> mentioned
>> >> > >> renewables, he has mentioned
>> >> > >> transmission, so he needs to put those two together for a great
>> >> energy
>> >> > >> policy worthy of the best
>> >> > >> leftist sentiments.
>> >> >
>> >> > > With hydrogen and fuel cells and supercapacitors, we will have
>> >> > > electricity without batteries.
>> >> > Just another silly little unviable fantasy.
>> >> > > No more stupid Tesla cars.
>> >> > > Hydrogen cars will be far far better.
>> >> > Another silly little fantasy. A hydrogen cylinder in the car
>> >> > comprehensively fucks the weight of the car and is nowhere
>> >> > near as easy to fill as with a petrol or diesel fuelled car.

> Hydrogen cars have been around for several years.

And are much worse to fill than with a petrol or diesel fuelled car.

> There are no problems except availability of hydrogen. And HTN will fix
> that.

Nope, because it aint gunna happen.

>> >> Cylinders can be replaced mechanically. Swapped. No problem, can be
>> >> done automatically.
>> >
>> > This means the driver won't even need to get out of the car.
>> > Just drives to a location, and lets robots do the rest:
>> We don't even do that with EVs, for a reason, stupid.
>
> EVs on batteries alone must be banned.

Not gunna happen.

> Investment must be made about replacing H cylinders automatically.

Not gunna happen.

> That is what reaearch should be for.

Not gunna happen.

> For doing good, not evil.
> If they can join things up in space,

Pity about the cost of doing that, fuckwit.

> they can do it on Earth.

But aren't actually that stupid.

> Only too simple.

Only too stupid, actually.

>> > Take out the old cylinder, put in the new,calculate and charge the
>> > balance.
>> > And all the cylinders used are checked, of course.
>> > Just like gas cylinders for bbq at any service station.
>> Those aren't changed by robots even when its the house
>> supply, stupid.
>
>> > New ideas, will take time to sink in.

>> Hair brained ideas never happen.

> Ever single really great idea has been laughed

Hair brained stupiditys like yours in spades.

>> > But they must be implemented if people are reallyinterested in
>> > renewables for cleanliness.
>> Solar panels make FAR more sense.
>
> Yes, solar panels make sense and that in conjunction with the HTN,.

Nope, much more viable to use the existing electricity grid.

> Lots of solar farms will make surplus electricity locally. That surplus
> will be converted to hydrogen, and piped around in the HTN.

Nope, no one will be actually stupid enough to have an HTN.

> Ditto for wind farms, nuclear plants, geo, etc. instead of putting it
> into the lossy grid, it goes to the lossless

Repeating that bare faced lie changes nothing, it stays a bare faced lie.

> and thus distance-independent

Another bare faced lie.

> and rugged HTN.

>> And nukes because they use the existing grid, stupid.

> with the HTN they can make nukes in far away places where there is no
> grid

No point in putting a nuke there, fuckwit.
No one would want to work there, fuckwit.

> and use that energy to create hydrogen and oxygen from water.

No point, makes much more sense to use the electricity it generates.

> They can make nukes in deserts and arctic areas,and pipe the energy
> locally.

No point in involving hydrogen, just have the
sort of nuke used in nuclear submarines, stupid.

> Very rugged construction, most reliable.

True in spades of a nuke with no hydrogen involved.

>> >> The range will be as big as the tank!
>> >> Electric cars are very efficient, so there will be no waste.
>> >> The technology is not a problem.
>> >>
>> >> ********************************
>> >> It is a question of the bulb lighting in Albo's brain, once he gets
>> >> elected.
>> >> ********************************
>> >> > > When hydrogen will be universally available cheaply that is,
>> >> > No chance of that given the stupid cost of moving
>> >> > it to everywhere compared with electricity.
>> >> The Hydrogen Transmission Network will solve the problem of transport
>> >> and storage in one stroke.
>> >> htnresearch.com gives details, including the patent application and
>> >> patent.
>> >> Conference paper I presented in Kuwait in 2015:
>> >>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304298146_Load_balancing_system_involving_the_collection_distribution_and_usage_of_energy_using_the_proposed_Hydrogen_Transmission_Network_as_a_complement_or_alternative_to_high_voltage_transmission
>> >>
>> >> It is a new idea, so estab. robots like Rod3po dishing out their
>> >> programmers' silly authoritarian views can have no clue.
>> >> > > and will happen when the HTN happens.
>> >> > That will never happen given the utterly insane cost of it.
>> >> No, only a few billion dollars or so, then it will be self-supporting
>> >> with the vast amount of revenue coming in
>> >> from better land utilisation, industries, constructions, transport
>> >> creating unlimited jobs feeding many
>> >> services.
>> >>
>> >> It will be a multi-trillion dollar money spinner. It will provide
>> >> unlimited energy everywhere, as green as can be.
>> >> With energy everywhere, there will be use of it, from construction to
>> >> refrigeration to transport.
>> >> Oil will be phased out. Great news, that, for everyone even the oil
>> >> companies if they start to switch to hydrogen
>> >> economy using their capital. Oil will be the backup, and remain that
>> >> way for long.

On Wed, 18 May 2022 23:43:24 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 16:11:36 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 15:11:16 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 14:40:19 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 14:31:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> >> > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 13:08:33 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> >> > > On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:34 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
>> >> > > <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 10:30:46 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > Coal can be converted into hydrogen, and coal gas.
>> >> > > >> > But it makes a hell of a lot more sense to convert it into
>> >> > > >> electricity.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> No, it does not.
>> >> > > >> Making electricity at thermal power stations means making coal
>> >> burn to
>> >> > > >> make steam.
>> >> > > >> This burning process creates a lot of problems - radioactive
>> >> output,
>> >> > > >> Sulphur output not to mention CO2.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Coal was turned into coal gas long before electricity was
>> around.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Making coal gas involves passing steam over heated coal, to
>> make
>> >> carbon
>> >> > > >> monoxide and hydrogen.
>> >> > > >> When the HTN is around (it will start small from islands and
>> >> littoral
>> >> > > >> areas, then make deeper inroads
>> >> > > >> and finally replace or complement the grid) the hydrogen from
>> >> coal gas
>> >> > > >> can be extracted and put into
>> >> > > >> the HTN as an ever-available component of the hydrogen
>> economy,
>> >> useful
>> >> > > >> when the renewables sources
>> >> > > >> have temporary shortfall.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> (htnresearch.com gives details about the HTN.)
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> The CO component could be burnt to heat the water for the
>> steam.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> This way, the polluting aspects of coal can be controlled much
>> >> more
>> >> > > >> effectively, and that will give
>> >> > > >> coal an unlimited lease of life, doing thus good for miners
>> and
>> >> mining
>> >> > > >> companies.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> When coal is used to make coal gas, the polluting residue
>> remains
>> >> > > >> contained, does not
>> >> > > >> get blown out into the air, and can be disposed off
>> efficiently.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Of course this is a new idea, for our time, although the idea
>> of
>> >> coal
>> >> > > >> gas is ancient.
>> >> > > >> Old is gold, in this case. Coal gas, hydrogen, airships, etc.
>> >> must come
>> >> > > >> back.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> it is with the certainty that the ruling elites will not
>> always
>> >> be
>> >> > > >> biased and corrupt, that guides the original
>> >> > > >> works of
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandhi) Banerjee, greatest genius of
>> >> all
>> >> > > >> time, sole god among lotsa devils,
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> who can only hope that Albo will go for the HTN. He has
>> mentioned
>> >> > > >> renewables, he has mentioned
>> >> > > >> transmission, so he needs to put those two together for a
>> great
>> >> energy
>> >> > > >> policy worthy of the best
>> >> > > >> leftist sentiments.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > With hydrogen and fuel cells and supercapacitors, we will have
>> >> > > > electricity without batteries.
>> >> > > Just another silly little unviable fantasy.
>> >> > > > No more stupid Tesla cars.
>> >> > > > Hydrogen cars will be far far better.
>> >> > > Another silly little fantasy. A hydrogen cylinder in the car
>> >> > > comprehensively fucks the weight of the car and is nowhere
>> >> > > near as easy to fill as with a petrol or diesel fuelled car.
>> >> > Cylinders can be replaced mechanically. Swapped. No problem, can be
>> >> done automatically.
>> >> This means the driver won't even need to get out of the car.
>> >> Just drives to a location, and lets robots do the rest:
>> >> Take out the old cylinder, put in the new, calculate and charge the
>> >> balance.
>> >> And all the cylinders used are checked, of course.
>> >> Just like gas cylinders for bbq at any service station.
>> >>
>> >> New ideas, will take time to sink in.
>> >> But they must be implemented if people are really interested in
>> >> renewables for cleanliness.
>> >> > The range will be as big as the tank!
>> >> > Electric cars are very efficient, so there will be no waste.
>> >> > The technology is not a problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > ********************************
>> >> > It is a question of the bulb lighting in Albo's brain, once he gets
>> >> elected.
>> >> > ********************************
>> >> > > > When hydrogen will be universally available cheaply that is,
>> >> > > No chance of that given the stupid cost of moving
>> >> > > it to everywhere compared with electricity.
>> >> > The Hydrogen Transmission Network will solve the problem of
>> transport
>> >> and storage in one stroke.
>> >> > htnresearch.com gives details, including the patent application and
>> >> patent.
>> >> > Conference paper I presented in Kuwait in 2015:
>> >> >
>> >>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304298146_Load_balancing_system_involving_the_collection_distribution_and_usage_of_energy_using_the_proposed_Hydrogen_Transmission_Network_as_a_complement_or_alternative_to_high_voltage_transmission
>> >> >
>> >> > It is a new idea, so estab. robots like Rod3po dishing out their
>> >> programmers' silly authoritarian views can have no clue.
>> >> > > > and will happen when the HTN happens.
>> >> > > That will never happen given the utterly insane cost of it.
>> >> > No, only a few billion dollars or so, then it will be
>> self-supporting
>> >> with the vast amount of revenue coming in
>> >> > from better land utilisation, industries, constructions, transport
>> >> creating unlimited jobs feeding many
>> >> > services.
>> >> >
>> >> > It will be a multi-trillion dollar money spinner. It will provide
>> >> unlimited energy everywhere, as green as can be.
>> >> > With energy everywhere, there will be use of it, from construction
>> to
>> >> refrigeration to transport.
>> >> > Oil will be phased out. Great news, that, for everyone even the oil
>> >> companies if they start to switch to hydrogen
>> >> > economy using their capital. Oil will be the backup, and remain
>> that
>> >> way for long.
>> >
>> > Great side effect of the hydrogen economy is the pure water that is
>> got
>> > from hydrogen and oxygen.
>
>> It is in fact nothing even remotely pure given that it is burnt in air,
>> not pure oxygen.

<https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/federal-election/nbn-co-to-demand-home-internet-price-hike-but-figures-kept-secret-by-accc-until-after-election/news-story/0a7f6ea794a282e0b3809df3f252f59b>
https://tinyurl.com/y4w8ma4e
NBN Co to demand home internet price hike, but figures kept secret by
ACCC until after election
The NBN has been blasted for demanding massive internet cost hikes –
and the real amount is being kept secret until after the election.
Home internet prices will soar in a sneaky post-election
cost-of-living bombshell to be dropped as soon as Monday.

Industry sources say NBN Co will demand price rises of up to 20 per
cent on some smaller data plans, adding to consumers’ hip pocket pain
amid rising interest rates.

The secret new prices NBN Co wants to charge retailers including
Telstra, Optus and TPG, are contained in a submission to the
Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC).

NBN Co sent through a redacted version of the price-hike paper, which
in April forced the ACCC to delay its release until after the
election.

NBN Co’s submission to the ACCC, known as the Special Access
Undertaking, will lock in price rises to 2040.
--
Petzl
Make Australia Great Again
MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> <https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/federal-election/nbn-co-to-demand-home-internet-price-hike-but-figures-kept-secret-by-accc-until-after-election/news-story/0a7f6ea794a282e0b3809df3f252f59b>
> https://tinyurl.com/y4w8ma4e

Just because that shit rag claims something...

> NBN Co to demand home internet price hike,

NBN Co doesn't get to demand anything, they aren't free to charge anything
they like.

> but figures kept secret by ACCC until after election

Don't believe that either.

> The NBN has been blasted for demanding massive internet cost hikes

Only by pig ignorant fools. They don't get to demand anything.

> and the real amount is being kept secret until after the election.
> Home internet prices will soar in a sneaky post-election
> cost-of-living bombshell to be dropped as soon as Monday.

No chance, you watch.

> Industry sources say NBN Co will demand price rises of up to 20 per
> cent on some smaller data plans, adding to consumers’ hip pocket pain
> amid rising interest rates.

NBN Co doesn't get to demand anything, they aren't free to charge anything
they like.

> The secret new prices NBN Co wants to charge retailers including
> Telstra, Optus and TPG, are contained in a submission to the
> Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC).

So they aren't actually demanding anything stupid.

> NBN Co sent through a redacted version of the price-hike paper, which
> in April forced the ACCC to delay its release until after the election.

> NBN Co’s submission to the ACCC, known as the Special Access
> Undertaking, will lock in price rises to 2040.

Another bare faced lie.

used since 1990's thats why Malcolm Turbull used encrption!
Wondered where spammers/scammers got my mobile number from
<https://theintercept.com/2020/07/31/protests-surveillance-stingrays-dirtboxes-phone-tracking/>
https://tinyurl.com/y6jxs3cc
Stingray is the generic name for an electronic surveillance tool that
simulates a cell phone tower in order to force mobile phones and other
devices to connect to it instead of to a legitimate cell tower. In
doing so, the phone or other device reveals information about itself
and its user to the operator of the stingray. Other common names for
the tool are “cell-site simulator” and “IMSI catcher.”
--
Petzl
Make Australia Great Again
MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> used since 1990's

Not even possible with an iphone.

> thats why Malcolm Turbull used encrption!

That fool never had a fucking clue about technology.

> Wondered where spammers/scammers got my mobile number from

They didn't get it that way. They just spam/scam numbers at random, stupid.

> <https://theintercept.com/2020/07/31/protests-surveillance-stingrays-dirtboxes-phone-tracking/>
> https://tinyurl.com/y6jxs3cc

Just because some fool claims something...

> Stingray is the generic name for an electronic surveillance tool that
> simulates a cell phone tower in order to force mobile phones andother
> devices to connect to it instead of to a legitimate cell tower.

That's not how they got your mobile number, stupid.

> In doing so, the phone or other device reveals information about itself

Only its number.

> and its user

Bullshit.

> to the operator of the stingray. Other common namesfor the tool are
> “cell-site simulator” and “IMSI catcher.”

On 18/05/2022 8:51 pm, Ozix wrote:
> Fran wrote:
>> On 16/05/2022 8:31 pm, Ozix wrote:
>>> After promising to subsidise home loans, and lower fuel excise
>>> forever, how much will this cost? From a man who keeps banging on
>>> about a huge deficit.
>>
>>
>> :-))  I won't cost him a penny.  None of his 'commitments' will cost
>> anything.  He's not going to have any power to deliver anything.
>
> And next trick, promising free uni education and wipe out HECS debt.
> How many educated person are going to vote for Fatty McFuckhead?

LOL.

I've already voted and his party members didn't get my vote in either House.

Monday, 16th May 2022, 13:27 UTC, M2.46

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Duration: 3395 minutes

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On Thu, 19 May 2022 08:40:55 +1000, Rod Speed posted:-

> Not even possible with an iphone.

iPhones lump of shit, hackers can now hack them even when not turned on.

Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Not even possible with an iphone.

> iPhones lump of shit, hackers can now hack them even when not turned on.

More of your mindless pig ignorant shit and lies.

<https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/agl-energyaustralia-and-origin-energy-tipped-to-increase-electricity-bills-by-15-per-cent/news-story/1c5d5d1fdca01ba5841cb17642f371ca>
https://tinyurl.com/y3vrckcl
AGL, EnergyAustralia and Origin Energy tipped to increase electricity
bills by 15 per cent
A small household can expect its annual power bill to surge by nearly
$200 per year from July due to soaring wholesale electricity prices.
--
Petzl
Make Australia Great Again
MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

Petzl wrote on 19/5/22 5:33 pm:
> <https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/agl-energyaustralia-and-origin-energy-tipped-to-increase-electricity-bills-by-15-per-cent/news-story/1c5d5d1fdca01ba5841cb17642f371ca>
> https://tinyurl.com/y3vrckcl
> AGL, EnergyAustralia and Origin Energy tipped to increase electricity
> bills by 15 per cent
> A small household can expect its annual power bill to surge by nearly
> $200 per year from July due to soaring wholesale electricity prices.
>
Hmm!! As I already had my Gas account with Origin, I recently switched
my Electricity to Origin as well .... and they are offering a $200
discount over the first twelve months!!
--
Daniel

On Thu, 19 May 2022 15:19:26 +1000, Rod Speed posted:-

> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> > Rod Speed wrote
>
> >> Not even possible with an iphone.
>
> > iPhones lump of shit, hackers can now hack them even when not
> > turned on.
>
> More of your mindless pig ignorant shit and lies.

Let me educate you, Roddles, if your feeble immature brain can absorb
it.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5q4vj/malware-can-be-loaded-even-onto-phones-that-are-turned-off-researchers-show#:~:text=New%20iPhones%20can%20be%20located,could%20take%20advantage%20of%20that.

Your extremely grovelling apology accepted.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> <https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/agl-energyaustralia-and-origin-energy-tipped-to-increase-electricity-bills-by-15-per-cent/news-story/1c5d5d1fdca01ba5841cb17642f371ca>
> https://tinyurl.com/y3vrckcl
> AGL, EnergyAustralia and Origin Energy tipped to increase electricity
> bills by 15 per cent

We'll see...

> A small household can expect its annual power bill to surge by nearly
> $200 per year from July due to soaring wholesale electricity prices.

That's not a surge, liar.

Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>> Not even possible with an iphone.

>>> iPhones lump of shit, hackers can nowhack them even when not turned
>>> on.

>> More of your mindless pig ignorant shit and lies.

> Let me educate you

Your shit and lies never educate anyone.

> https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5q4vj/malware-can-be-loaded-even-onto-phones-that-are-turned-off-researchers-show#:~:text=New%20iPhones%20can%20be%20located,could%20take%20advantage%20of%20that.

Just because some stupid lying fuckwit claims something...

Pity about this bit

the researchers point out in the paper, hackers
would need to first hack and jailbreak the iPhone

Which isn't even possible with the iphone turned off FUCKWIT.

to be able to access the Bluetooth chip and exploit it,

On Thu, 19 May 2022 19:30:31 +1000, Rod Speed posted:-

> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> > Rod Speed wrote
> >> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed wrote
>
> >>>> Not even possible with an iphone.
>
> >>> iPhones lump of shit, hackers can nowhack them even when not
> >>> turned on.
>
> >> More of your mindless pig ignorant shit and lies.
>
> > Let me educate you
>
> Your shit and lies never educate anyone.
>
> > https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5q4vj/malware-can-be-loaded-even-onto-phones-that-are-turned-off-researchers-show#:~:text=New%20iPhones%20can%20be%20located,could%20take%20advantage%20of%20that.
> >
>
> Just because some stupid lying fuckwit claims something...
>
> Pity about this bit
>
> the researchers point out in the paper, hackers
> would need to first hack and jailbreak the iPhone
>
> Which isn't even possible with the iphone turned off FUCKWIT.

Of course not FUCKWIT, but that is not what is being discussed, FUCKWIT
<snigger>
>
> to be able to access the Bluetooth chip and exploit it,

Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
>> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
>> >>> Rod Speed wrote

>> >>>> Not even possible with an iphone.

>> >>> iPhones lump of shit, hackers can nowhack them even when not
>> >>> turned on.

>> >> More of your mindless pig ignorant shit and lies.

>> > Let me educate you

>> Your shit and lies never educates anyone.

>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5q4vj/malware-can-be-loaded-even-onto-phones-that-are-turned-off-researchers-show#:~:text=New%20iPhones%20can%20be%20located,could%20take%20advantage%20of%20that.

>> Just because some stupid lying fuckwit claims something...

>> Pity about this bit

>> the researchers point out in the paper, hackers
>> would need to first hack and jailbreak the iPhone

>> Which isn't even possible with the iphone turned off FUCKWIT.

> Of course not

So it isnt even possible to load anything onto the iphone when its off,
fuckwit.

>> to be able to access the Bluetooth chip and exploit it,

Morrison spoke more bullshit in Geelong recently. He's behaving like a salesman rather than a PM. Let me just give a few examples...
bs no. 1 ...He said Albo has no experience as PM, and has not delivered a Budget etc., so he concluded Albo should not be PM. This fails any logic test. If this is true and logical, then the current PM will be PM forever, which is ridiculous.
bs. no. 2. ... He said he can manage money and the economy better. He seemed to have conveniently forgotten that his budget estimate was out be several billion $ (5 billion or 9 billion, I can remember the figure). That was sometime in 2020 when covid first hit and he first implemented those covid disaster payment and covid relief payment etc. How can we trust his supposed better economic/money management when his budget (estimate) is out by several billions!!! (not millions!!).
bs no. 3 ... He's taking credit when credit is not due. The low unemployment rate is caused by the absence of migrants and overseas student in the last 2 covid years, something he can't control.
nb no. 4. ... He blaming others for the bad things that happened, eg. inflation. Inflation did not start in the last few months, it was already happening around end of last year (during his watch), ramping up to 5.1 or 5.2% now, and made worse (of course) by the Ukraine war. There are several job vacancies now, because they are low paying jobs and Morrison's policy is to keep wages low.

Petzl wrote on 17/5/22 10:38 pm:
> On Tue, 17 May 2022 10:12:33 GMT, Whatawonderfulworld <Foo@Foobar.com>
> wrote:
>> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote in news:jeh5g7F97dtU2
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 08:41:20 +1000, Trevor Wilson posted:-
>>>
>>>> **Yep. You know, I felt, for a long time, that Abbott was the worst
>>>> PM this nation has ever had. I am seriously considering a revision of
>>>> that opinion.
>>>
>>> You really need to. Shitlam was by far the worst.
>>>
>>
>> I thought John Gordon was a seemingly nice guy, but was pretty useless.
>>
>> And i thought Harold Holt only ever did one good thing.
>>
> Yes he drowned
>
..... and there's a municipal swimming pool in Melbourne's S-E Suburbs
named after Harold Holt!!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harold+Holt+Swim+Centre/@-37.8580674,145.0424566,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6ad64200a46b0c21:0xc2d0d8a9cfc2d259!8m2!3d-37.8580674!4d145.0446453

--
Daniel

Fran wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 8:51 pm, Ozix wrote:
>> Fran wrote:
>>> On 16/05/2022 8:31 pm, Ozix wrote:
>>>> After promising to subsidise home loans, and lower fuel excise
>>>> forever, how much will this cost? From a man who keeps banging on
>>>> about a huge deficit.
>>>
>>>
>>> :-))  I won't cost him a penny.  None of his 'commitments' will cost
>>> anything.  He's not going to have any power to deliver anything.
>>
>> And next trick, promising free uni education and wipe out HECS debt.
>> How many educated person are going to vote for Fatty McFuckhead?
>
>
> LOL.
>
> I've already voted and his party members didn't get my vote in either
> House.

I see his supportards have new T-shirts whining that Labor and Liberals
are against them preference-wise. Already making excuses for the zero
seats they are going to win.

On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 15:57:14 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Looks like he is already in.
> I hope he initiates the hydrogen economy with the lossless HTN, the Hydrogen Transmission Network.
> It can start small on island communities then make inroads.
> Details at
> htnresearch.com
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee

Hydrogen cars will need to change their tanks for every refilling.
It should be much easier than getting out of the car and filling it with fuel.
Just go to the automated depot and set the car at the right place.
Robots will do the rest.
One scenario below:
The tank is a cylinder, vertical.
A robot arm with a screwdiver comes down after the lid is flipped, latches into the top of the tank and unscrews. There is threading at the base where it connects to the valve leading to the fuel cell.
As it comes up, a set of robot arms grips it till it is clear.
The tank is removed and weighed.
A second full tank comes from the top with the robot arms and is settled on the threading at the base.
The screwdiver arm comes down and tightens the cylinder.
The difference in weights is the amount owed, and deducted from the user's card.
And then, off he goes.

Ditto for buses and trucks, which will have larger cylinders.

So simple!

McCoy <mccoyrufus@gmail.com> wrote

> Morrison spoke more bullshit in Geelong recently.

How unusual for a politician in the last few days before an election.

> He's behaving like a salesman

How unusual for a politician in the last few days before an election.

> rather than a PM. Let me just give a few examples...

> bs no. 1 ...He said Albo has no experience as PM,

He's right.

> and has not delivered a Budget etc.,

He's right about that too.

> so he concluded Albo should not be PM.

He's right about that too.

And you deliberately left out the other bit, that that
fool Albo has never ever had any important ministerial
responsibility in any Labor govt, even tho he has been
a federal MP for more than 25 years.

> This fails any logic test. If this is true and logical, thenthe current
> PM will be PM forever, which is ridiculous.

Not if Labor had had anyone with more experience as their 'leader'

> bs. no. 2. ... He said he can manage money and the economy better. He
> seemed to have conveniently forgotten that his budget estimate was out
> be several billion $ (5 billion or 9 billion, I can remember the figure).

Hardly surprising given that we had a pandemic the
like of which the world has never seen before, stupid.

> That was sometime in 2020 when covid first hit and he first implemented
> those covid disaster payment and covid relief payment etc. How can we
> trust his supposed better economic/money managementwhen his budget
> (estimate) is out by several billions!!! (not millions!!).

We wont see a new pandemic, fool.

> bs no. 3 ... He's taking credit when credit is not due.

How unusual for a politician in the last few days before an election.

> The low unemployment rate is caused by the absence of migrants and
> overseas student in the last 2 covid years, something he can't control.

He did in fact impose the restrictions that produced that result
with immigrants and foreign students, stupid.

> nb no. 4. ... He blaming others for the bad things that happened, eg.
> inflation.

Quite rightly so with inflation. That had nothing to do with
any policy changes or economic management of his.

> Inflation did not start in the last few months,

Because it is mostly due to Putin invading the Ukraine and
the flooding and very wet conditions where most of our food
is grown, and the shortage of labor due to covid, stupid

> it was already happening around end of last year (during his watch),

Bullshit.

> ramping up to 5.1 or 5.2% now,

See above...

> and made worse (of course) by the Ukraine war.

And all that rain with food prices.

> There are several job vacancies now, because they are low paying jobs

More of your bare faced lies.

> and Morrison's policy is to keep wages low.

More of your bare faced lies.

You don't like ScoMo, vote for you Labor candidate, stupid.

On Fri, 20 May 2022 00:02:13 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 15:57:14 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> Looks like he is already in.
>> I hope he initiates the hydrogen economy with the lossless HTN, the
>> Hydrogen Transmission Network.
>> It can start small on island communities then make inroads.
>> Details at
>> htnresearch.com

> Hydrogen cars will need to change their tanks for every refilling.

And that is another reason why they aint gunna happen.

> It should be much easier than gettingout of the car and filling it with
> fuel.

Pity about the stupid cost of the machine
to do that and the stupid constraints on the
design on the car to make that possible.

> Just go to the automated depot and set the car at the right place.
> Robots will do the rest.

Pity about the stupid cost of the machine
to do that and the stupid constraints on the
design on the car to make that possible.

> One scenario below:
> The tank is a cylinder, vertical.

Not going to be viable in small cars.

> A robot arm with a screwdiver

Stupid way to do it.

> comes down after the lid is flipped, latches into thetop of the tank
> and unscrews. There is threading at the base where it connects to the
> valve leading to the fuel cell.
> As it comes up, a set of robot arms grips it till it is clear.

Which would fuck the design of small cars.

> The tank is removed and weighed.
> A second full tank comes from the top with the robotarms and is settled
> on the threading at the base.
> The screwdiver arm comes down and tightens the cylinder.
> The difference in weights is the amount owed, and deducted from the
> user's card.
> And then, off he goes.

Thanks for that proof of why hydrogen isn't viable for cars.

> Ditto for buses and trucks, which will have larger cylinders.

> So simple!

So stupid, impractical and stupidly expensive, actually.

On Thu, 19 May 2022 20:34:54 +1000, Rod Speed posted:-

> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> > Rod Speed wrote
> >> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> >> > Rod Speed wrote
> >> >> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> >> >>> Rod Speed wrote
>
> >> >>>> Not even possible with an iphone.
>
> >> >>> iPhones lump of shit, hackers can nowhack them even when not
> >> >>> turned on.
>
> >> >> More of your mindless pig ignorant shit and lies.
>
> >> > Let me educate you
>
> >> Your shit and lies never educates anyone.
>
> >> https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5q4vj/malware-can-be-loaded-even-onto-phones-that-are-turned-off-researchers-show#:~:text=New%20iPhones%20can%20be%20located,could%20take%20advantage%20of%20that.
> >>
>
> >> Just because some stupid lying fuckwit claims something...
>
> >> Pity about this bit
>
> >> the researchers point out in the paper, hackers
> >> would need to first hack and jailbreak the iPhone
>
> >> Which isn't even possible with the iphone turned off FUCKWIT.
>
> > Of course not
>
> So it isnt even possible to load anything onto the iphone when its
> off, fuckwit.

Get a big person to explain it to you - how it works, FUCKWIT LOL
>
> >> to be able to access the Bluetooth chip and exploit it,

This tart should be certified and locked up in a mental institution.
Are these the people who seriously believe they have the ability to
manage Australia?

"Lewis Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland depicts a “passive heroine” who is
“denied her own feelings” in order to satisfy the “desiring male gaze”
of her creator, according to Labor’s candidate for Victoria’s most
marginal seat.

Former academic, Victorian Trades Hall assistant secretary and Chisholm
candidate Carina Garland wrote a journal article on “Gender, Desire,
and Subjectivity in Lewis Carroll’s Alice Texts”, ­arguing that Carroll
used his much-loved children’s books, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland
and Through the Looking Glass, to “revile” female sexuality and
“idealise” female passivity.

The protagonist of the books, Alice, is understood to have been seven
in the first novel, and only six months older in the second, but Dr
Garland draws upon Lacanian and Freudian theories relating to
“castration”, “the phallus” and “vagina dentata” to make conclusions
about Carroll’s “malicious” manipulation of his young heroine.

Popularised by psychoanalysts including Sigmund Freud and Jacques
Lacan, the motif of a “vagina with teeth” is used by literary and
cultural theorists to symbolise male fears of castration and the
dangers of sexual intercourse; the phallus is regarded as representing
male control.

“In Freudian terms, the Queen of Hearts’ tendency to scream ‘Off with
their heads!’ can be read as a castration desire,” Dr Garland argues in
her “feminist reading” of the 1865 and 1871 novels.

“While my analysis does seek to move away from traditional Freudian
interpretations, eliminating the phallus and emasculating Wonderland’s
mostly male population is an important part in understanding the
presence of vagina dentata within the text. This fear of castration is
something Carroll associates with adult females in Wonderland while the
emasculation of men is a frequent feature of the text."

ROFLMAO. https://tny.im/8ObT6