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Subject: Body of Scottish aristocrat Lord Strathnaver, 40, is found dead at
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 by: Michael Rhodes - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 16:06 UTC

Alexander Charles Robert Sutherland, styled Lord Strathnaver, son and heir of the 25th Earl of Sutherland, and heir to the Dunrobin Castle estate, the most northerly stately home in Scotland.

https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2022/09/alexander-charles-robert-sutherland.html

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/scottish-aristocrat-lord-strathnaver-40-is-found-dead-at-foot-of-30ft-cliffs-near-thurso-castle/ar-AA11ut8B

Lord Strathnaver was found at the bottom of 30ft cliffs at Thurso East, near the ruined 19th century Thurso Castle in Caithness. Thurso Lifeboat was launched at 11.30pm on Saturday 3 September, 2022, after reports of a person on the rocks.

A friend said that Lord Strathnaver, who would have celebrated his 41st birthday next month, had been attending the Tunes in the Dunes music festival at Dunnet - mainland Britain's most northerly point - at the weekend. A keen surfer, he also had a house a few miles away at Thurso East, which is a top UK surfing location.

He was born 1 October, 1981, the only son of the 25th Earl of Sutherland [Peerage of Scotland created in 1235] [born 7 January, 1947], and his second wife, the former Gillian Murray. The Earl is Chief of the Clan Sutherland.

His father succeeded to the peerages on the death of his mother, who was Countess of Sutherland in her own right, 9 December, 2019. The Countess left an estate of £18m. The Earldom of Sutherland is one of Scotland senior earldoms.

Lord Strathnaver was the Earl of Sutherland's only son. The 25th Earl has two daughters from his first marriage to Eileen Elizabeth Baker, which ended in divorce in 1980. The are Lady Rachel Elizabeth Sutherland [born 10 Aug, 1970], and Lady Rosemary Millicent Sutherland [born 10 Sept, 1972]. The Earl also leaves a daughter from his second marriage to Gillian Murray, Lady Elizabeth Sutherland [born 24 April, 1984].

Lord Strathnaver was unmarried. The heir to the peerages is now his eldest half-sister, Lady Rachel, 52.

-=-

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Subject: Re: Body of Scottish aristocrat Lord Strathnaver, 40, is found dead at foot of 30ft cliffs near Thurso castle
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 by: Louis Epstein - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 16:50 UTC

Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Alexander Charles Robert Sutherland, styled Lord Strathnaver, son and heir of the 25th Earl of Sutherland, and heir to the Dunrobin Castle estate, the most northerly stately home in Scotland.

By what measure are all homes in Scotland north of Dunrobin Castle confirmed to be of insufficient stateliness?
> https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2022/09/alexander-charles-robert-sutherland.html
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/scottish-aristocrat-lord-strathnaver-40-is-found-dead-at-foot-of-30ft-cliffs-near-thurso-castle/ar-AA11ut8B
>
> Lord Strathnaver was found at the bottom of 30ft cliffs at Thurso East, near the ruined 19th century Thurso Castle in Caithness. Thurso Lifeboat was launched at 11.30pm on Saturday 3 September, 2022, after reports of a person on the rocks.
>
> A friend said that Lord Strathnaver, who would have celebrated his 41st birthday next month, had been attending the Tunes in the Dunes music festival at Dunnet - mainland Britain's most northerly point - at the weekend. A keen surfer, he also had a house a few miles away at Thurso East, which is a top UK surfing location.
>
> He was born 1 October, 1981, the only son of the 25th Earl of Sutherland [Peerage of Scotland created in 1235] [born 7 January, 1947], and his second wife, the former Gillian Murray. The Earl is Chief of the Clan Sutherland.
>
> His father succeeded to the peerages on the death of his mother, who was Countess of Sutherland in her own right, 9 December, 2019. The Countess left an estate of ?18m. The Earldom of Sutherland is one of Scotland senior earldoms.
>
> Lord Strathnaver was the Earl of Sutherland's only son. The 25th Earl has two daughters from his first marriage to Eileen Elizabeth Baker, which ended in divorce in 1980. The are Lady Rachel Elizabeth Sutherland [born 10 Aug, 1970], and Lady Rosemary Millicent Sutherland [born 10 Sept, 1972]. The Earl also leaves a daughter from his second marriage to Gillian Murray, Lady Elizabeth Sutherland [born 24 April, 1984].
>
> Lord Strathnaver was unmarried. The heir to the peerages is now his eldest half-sister, Lady Rachel, 52.

Does she have issue?

> -=-

The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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> > Lord Strathnaver was unmarried. The heir to the peerages is now his eldest half-sister, Lady Rachel, 52.
> Does she have issue?
>
> > -=-

I have no records of any marriages of the Earl's three daughters, aged 52, 49, and 38. If this line fails then the current Earl's younger brother has four sons living.
-=-

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Subject: Re: Body of Scottish aristocrat Lord Strathnaver, 40, is found dead at foot of 30ft cliffs near Thurso castle
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 by: Louis Epstein - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 01:09 UTC

Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Lord Strathnaver was unmarried. The heir to the peerages is now his eldest half-sister, Lady Rachel, 52.
>> Does she have issue?
>>
>> > -=-
>
> I have no records of any marriages of the Earl's three daughters, aged 52, 49, and 38. If this line fails then the current Earl's younger brother has four sons living.
> -=-

The Earl's younger twin's eldest son's suicide is noted in articles mentioning
the death of Lord Strathnaver...he left no eligible issue?

(There are certainly far too many heirs to ever forecast a recombination with the Dukedom of Sutherland,
similarly with any reunion of the senior and Kellie lines of Earls of Mar).

Was the ruined castle connected to Viscount Thurso's family or other Sinclairs?

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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Subject: Re: Body of Scottish aristocrat Lord Strathnaver, 40, is found dead
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 by: Michael Rhodes - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 09:59 UTC

On Tuesday, 6 September 2022 at 02:09:10 UTC+1, Louis Epstein wrote:
> Michael Rhodes <mig73alle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > Lord Strathnaver was unmarried. The heir to the peerages is now his eldest half-sister, Lady Rachel, 52.
> >> Does she have issue?
> >>
> >> > -=-
> >
> > I have no records of any marriages of the Earl's three daughters, aged 52, 49, and 38. If this line fails then the current Earl's younger brother has four sons living.
> > -=-
> The Earl's younger twin's eldest son's suicide is noted in articles mentioning
> the death of Lord Strathnaver...he left no eligible issue?
>
> (There are certainly far too many heirs to ever forecast a recombination with the Dukedom of Sutherland,
> similarly with any reunion of the senior and Kellie lines of Earls of Mar).
>
> Was the ruined castle connected to Viscount Thurso's family or other Sinclairs?
>
> -=-=-
> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Part of Thurso Castle is still inhabited, and owned by Viscount Thurso.

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Subject: Re: Body of Scottish aristocrat Lord Strathnaver, 40, is found dead at foot of 30ft cliffs near Thurso castle
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 by: Louis Epstein - Wed, 7 Sep 2022 02:15 UTC

Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 6 September 2022 at 02:09:10 UTC+1, Louis Epstein wrote:
>> Michael Rhodes <mig73alle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> > Lord Strathnaver was unmarried. The heir to the peerages is now his eldest half-sister, Lady Rachel, 52.
>> >> Does she have issue?
>> >>
>> >> > -=-
>> >
>> > I have no records of any marriages of the Earl's three daughters, aged 52, 49, and 38. If this line fails then the current Earl's younger brother has four sons living.
>> >
>> The Earl's younger twin's eldest son's suicide is noted in articles mentioning
>> the death of Lord Strathnaver...he left no eligible issue?

I see reports that the decedent's younger sister in fact has a son,
who I suppose would take the surname Sutherland on succeeding.
But that would be decades off...I wonder if...

>> (There are certainly far too many heirs to ever forecast a recombination
>> with the Dukedom of Sutherland,

....the dukedom will even last that long,with its limitation to males
possibly destining the Marquessate of Stafford to the Granville line
if the Duke's sons have no sons.

>> similarly with any reunion of the senior and Kellie lines of Earls of Mar).
>>
>> Was the ruined castle connected to Viscount Thurso's family or other Sinclairs?
>>
>
>
> Part of Thurso Castle is still inhabited, and owned by Viscount Thurso.

So,journalistic carelessness.

>> -=-=-
>> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
>> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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 by: Michael Rhodes - Wed, 7 Sep 2022 17:19 UTC

On Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 03:16:00 UTC+1, Louis Epstein wrote:
> Michael Rhodes <mig73alle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 6 September 2022 at 02:09:10 UTC+1, Louis Epstein wrote:
> >> Michael Rhodes <mig73alle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >> > Lord Strathnaver was unmarried. The heir to the peerages is now his eldest half-sister, Lady Rachel, 52.
> >> >> Does she have issue?
> >> >>
> >> >> > -=-
> >> >
> >> > I have no records of any marriages of the Earl's three daughters, aged 52, 49, and 38. If this line fails then the current Earl's younger brother has four sons living.
> >> >
> >> The Earl's younger twin's eldest son's suicide is noted in articles mentioning
> >> the death of Lord Strathnaver...he left no eligible issue?
> I see reports that the decedent's younger sister in fact has a son,
> who I suppose would take the surname Sutherland on succeeding.
> But that would be decades off...I wonder if...
> >> (There are certainly far too many heirs to ever forecast a recombination
> >> with the Dukedom of Sutherland,
> ...the dukedom will even last that long,with its limitation to males
> possibly destining the Marquessate of Stafford to the Granville line
> if the Duke's sons have no sons.
> >> similarly with any reunion of the senior and Kellie lines of Earls of Mar).
> >>
> >> Was the ruined castle connected to Viscount Thurso's family or other Sinclairs?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Part of Thurso Castle is still inhabited, and owned by Viscount Thurso.
> So,journalistic carelessness.
> >> -=-=-
> >> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
> >> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

I am informed that the younger sister of the deceased Lord Strathnaver, Lady Elizabeth, is wife of Yacov Costin, and mother of a son, Isaac Sutherland Costin, born 2015.
-=-

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 by: Louis Epstein - Wed, 7 Sep 2022 19:46 UTC

Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 03:16:00 UTC+1, Louis Epstein wrote:
>> Michael Rhodes <mig73alle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, 6 September 2022 at 02:09:10 UTC+1, Louis Epstein wrote:
>> >> Michael Rhodes <mig73alle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >> > Lord Strathnaver was unmarried. The heir to the peerages is now his eldest half-sister, Lady Rachel, 52.
>> >> >> Does she have issue?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > -=-
>> >> >
>> >> > I have no records of any marriages of the Earl's three daughters, aged 52, 49, and 38. If this line fails then the current Earl's younger brother has four sons living.
>> >> >
>> >> The Earl's younger twin's eldest son's suicide is noted in articles mentioning
>> >> the death of Lord Strathnaver...he left no eligible issue?
>> I see reports that the decedent's younger sister in fact has a son,
>> who I suppose would take the surname Sutherland on succeeding.
>> But that would be decades off...I wonder if...
>> >> (There are certainly far too many heirs to ever forecast a recombination
>> >> with the Dukedom of Sutherland,
>> ...the dukedom will even last that long,with its limitation to males
>> possibly destining the Marquessate of Stafford to the Granville line
>> if the Duke's sons have no sons.
>> >> similarly with any reunion of the senior and Kellie lines of Earls of Mar).
>> >>
>> >> Was the ruined castle connected to Viscount Thurso's family or other Sinclairs?
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Part of Thurso Castle is still inhabited, and owned by Viscount Thurso.
>> So,journalistic carelessness.
>
> I am informed that the younger sister of the deceased Lord Strathnaver, Lady Elizabeth, is wife of Yacov Costin, and mother of a son, Isaac Sutherland Costin, born 2015.

....who I suggest would,on becoming Earl some day,drop the "Costin" to qualify as Chief of Clan Sutherland,
just as the late Countess,though named "Elizabeth Millicent Janson" by the 1970 Burke's Peerage,used
"Sutherland" only for much if not all of her tenure,rather than her husband's Janson or father's
Leveson-Gower surname.

The Ellesmere line now Dukes of Sutherland use Egerton thanks to the Dukes of Bridgwater,but if
on their possible extinction the Marquessate of Stafford hived off to the Granville line who remain
Leveson-Gowers,I suppose the Granville title would cease to be used unless as an alternate courtesy
title with Earl Gower (much as Earls of Jersey alternately style heirs Viscount Villiers and Viscount
Grandison,those of Rosebery Lord Primrose and Lord Dalmeny,and those of Wemyss Lord Elcho and Lord
Neidpath).As it is,the Sutherland Dukes have a set of courtesy titles for three generations of heirs
(M Stafford/E Gower/V Trentham) but separation from the Earls and the Peerage-of-Scotland titles
passing to heirs general means there would be no Master title for a great-great-grandson.

>> >> -=-=-
>> >> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
>> >> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.


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