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To paraphrase someone in here: For those of you with short attention
spans, here is a summary of the C&P to follow.

HawHawHaw!

"Disinformation Governance Board"
HawHawHaw!

I love it. I just bygod love it.
HawHawHaw!
-----------------------------------------------------------
Here comes the Department of Homeland Security — that heavily funded
guardian of our national borders, enforcer of the immigration laws,
preventer of terrorism, protector of U.S. coastal waters, keeper of
cybersecurity and coordinator of disaster preparedness — with yet
another sweeping assignment. On Wednesday, DHS Secretary Alejandro
Mayorkas announced at a House hearing the formation of a
Disinformation Governance Board, which will carry the agency’s fight
to a new front. The board will battle disinformation.

What will the board do? Where will the war be waged? Information on
the Biden administration’s war on disinformation proved scarce. When
the Associated Press asked DHS for an interview for details, the
department stiffed them, according to the AP’s April 28 story. The
next afternoon, a reporter asked White House press secretary Jen Psaki
for more about the board at a presser, and she was pretty vacant, too.
“I really haven’t dug into this exactly. I mean, we, of course,
support this effort, but let me see if I can get more specifics.”

The press did pry out of DHS the board’s goal to contest
disinformation crafted by Russia as well as the general disinformation
(authors unstated) that had deceived immigrants from Haiti and other
places that the U.S. southern border was open. Republicans like Sen.
Josh Hawley of Missouri and conservative media like the Washington
Times flipped out at the announcement, dusting off their Orwell and
combing out their fright-wigs to warn of an impending DHS crackdown on
not just free speech but free thinking. “This is dangerous and
un-American,” Hawley said in a statement. “The board should be
immediately dissolved.”

The idea that the Biden administration would pulp the First Amendment
and institute an authoritarian regime through its agents at DHS is
immediately dismissible if only because it is one of the most
ineffectual departments in the president’s Cabinet. Had Biden given
the task to Agriculture or Commerce or another department with a
better GPA in governing, we should be afraid. But DHS couldn’t stamp
out disinformation or erect an American Reich if we reallocated to it
all of the arms we’re currently shipping to Ukraine. It’s peopled by a
confederacy of dunces and botch-artists, incapable of carrying out its
current mission. For instance, DHS shrugged off the Jan. 6 warning
signs, according to a Government Accountability Office report. It
failed to share intelligence about the wave of Haitian immigrants who
breached the border in 2021. (Based on its track record, DHS’ content
monitors will surely miss any treacherous disinformation the Russkies
ship our way.) The department is so riddled with “copycat” programs
that duplicate duties handled by other federal agencies, Dara Lind
argued in Vox, that it should be abolished, a view held by many. In
2020, former Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) wrote an op-ed regretting
having midwifed it with her Senate vote.

But never mind DHS. Who among us thinks the government should add to
its work list the job of determining what is true and what is
disinformation? And who thinks the government is capable of telling
the truth? Our government produces lies and disinformation at
industrial scale and always has. It overclassifies vital information
to block its own citizens from becoming any the wiser. It pays
thousands of press aides to play hide the salami with facts.

This is the government that lied about winning the war in Vietnam,
that said the Watergate affair was a “third-rate burglary,” that
fought a secret war in Nicaragua, that lied about a clandestine love
affair in the White House, that used faulty intelligence to force a
war in the Middle East. Even President Barack Obama shortchanged the
truth. Of 600 Obama statements PolitiFact checked during his
administration, a quarter of them fell into the “red zone” of being
false, mostly false, or “pants on fire” false. Not so long ago, 50
intelligence officials — each of them smarter and better informed than
any DHS brainiac — assured the nation that the Hunter Biden laptop
story bore “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information
operation.” How did that work out? The idea that Covid could have come
from a Chinese lab was similarly dismissed as disinformation; now it’s
considered a legitimate possibility by the Biden administration.
Meanwhile, we have documented proof from the Washington Post that even
Joe Biden can’t handle simple truths! (We don’t need to reassess the
Donald Trump presidency here, do we?)

Making the federal government the official custodian of truth would be
like Brink’s giving a safe-cracker a job driving an armored car. On
top of that, who is going to accept DHS’ determinations? Not
reporters, who are accustomed to government lies. Not the man in the
street. Certainly not the so-called low-information voters the
government would like to diaper and stuff into an escape-proof
playpen. By conjuring the Disinformation Governance Board into
existence, the Biden administration will give itself a referee’s power
to declare some things completely out of bounds. Without stepping out
on the slippery slope, that would give Biden’s people the power to
find some things dangerous or objectionable. After branding something
disinformation, it’s only a short slide to suppressing the contested
information or replacing it with what Kellyanne Conway fancifully
called “alternative facts.”

If Russian disinformation is a problem, it has been so for almost a
century. As Lawfare reported in 2017, the Russians started sending out
fake defectors in the 1930s to spread disinformation in the West.
After World War II, the Soviets shifted their focus to the United
States. Two years after the surrender of Nazi Germany, Soviet
leadership sought to influence public opinion by covertly funding
newspapers and radio stations around the world and establishing fronts
to nurture communism. It forged documents and attempted to plant them
in credible publications. In one disinformation campaign, it
promulgated the tall tale that AIDS was the product of an American
biological weapons experimentation. And so on.

Somehow we survived the Soviet onslaught without a Disinformation
Governance Board to guide us. Not every particle of disinformation can
be blocked. Anybody who is good at inventing lies can produce
disinformation faster than anybody can shoot disinformation down. (See
this RAND report about the Russian “firehose“ of lies.) Instead of
installing a Truth Politburo at DHS, the government should leave the
job of policing disinformation to the competitive organs of the press,
which compete “to obtain the earliest and most correct intelligence of
the time, and instantly, by disclosing them to make them the common
property of the nation,” as Times of London editor J. T. Delane put it
in 1852.

If DHS so badly needs a paperwork project, it can address a problem
closer to home: set up a bureau to study and eradicate U.S. government
disinformation.
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bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
> To paraphrase someone in here: For those of you with short attention
> spans, here is a summary of the C&P to follow.
>
> HawHawHaw!
>
> "Disinformation Governance Board"
> HawHawHaw!
>
> I love it. I just bygod love it.
> HawHawHaw!
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Here comes the Department of Homeland Security — that heavily funded
> guardian of our national borders, enforcer of the immigration laws,
> preventer of terrorism, protector of U.S. coastal waters, keeper of
> cybersecurity and coordinator of disaster preparedness — with yet
> another sweeping assignment. On Wednesday, DHS Secretary Alejandro
> Mayorkas announced at a House hearing the formation of a
> Disinformation Governance Board, which will carry the agency’s fight
> to a new front. The board will battle disinformation.
>
> What will the board do? Where will the war be waged? Information on
> the Biden administration’s war on disinformation proved scarce. When
> the Associated Press asked DHS for an interview for details, the
> department stiffed them, according to the AP’s April 28 story. The
> next afternoon, a reporter asked White House press secretary Jen Psaki
> for more about the board at a presser, and she was pretty vacant, too.
> “I really haven’t dug into this exactly. I mean, we, of course,
> support this effort, but let me see if I can get more specifics.”
>
> The press did pry out of DHS the board’s goal to contest
> disinformation crafted by Russia as well as the general disinformation
> (authors unstated) that had deceived immigrants from Haiti and other
> places that the U.S. southern border was open. Republicans like Sen.
> Josh Hawley of Missouri and conservative media like the Washington
> Times flipped out at the announcement, dusting off their Orwell and
> combing out their fright-wigs to warn of an impending DHS crackdown on
> not just free speech but free thinking. “This is dangerous and
> un-American,” Hawley said in a statement. “The board should be
> immediately dissolved.”
>
> The idea that the Biden administration would pulp the First Amendment
> and institute an authoritarian regime through its agents at DHS is
> immediately dismissible if only because it is one of the most
> ineffectual departments in the president’s Cabinet. Had Biden given
> the task to Agriculture or Commerce or another department with a
> better GPA in governing, we should be afraid. But DHS couldn’t stamp
> out disinformation or erect an American Reich if we reallocated to it
> all of the arms we’re currently shipping to Ukraine. It’s peopled by a
> confederacy of dunces and botch-artists, incapable of carrying out its
> current mission. For instance, DHS shrugged off the Jan. 6 warning
> signs, according to a Government Accountability Office report. It
> failed to share intelligence about the wave of Haitian immigrants who
> breached the border in 2021. (Based on its track record, DHS’ content
> monitors will surely miss any treacherous disinformation the Russkies
> ship our way.) The department is so riddled with “copycat” programs
> that duplicate duties handled by other federal agencies, Dara Lind
> argued in Vox, that it should be abolished, a view held by many. In
> 2020, former Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) wrote an op-ed regretting
> having midwifed it with her Senate vote.
>
> But never mind DHS. Who among us thinks the government should add to
> its work list the job of determining what is true and what is
> disinformation? And who thinks the government is capable of telling
> the truth? Our government produces lies and disinformation at
> industrial scale and always has. It overclassifies vital information
> to block its own citizens from becoming any the wiser. It pays
> thousands of press aides to play hide the salami with facts.
>
> This is the government that lied about winning the war in Vietnam,
> that said the Watergate affair was a “third-rate burglary,” that
> fought a secret war in Nicaragua, that lied about a clandestine love
> affair in the White House, that used faulty intelligence to force a
> war in the Middle East. Even President Barack Obama shortchanged the
> truth. Of 600 Obama statements PolitiFact checked during his
> administration, a quarter of them fell into the “red zone” of being
> false, mostly false, or “pants on fire” false. Not so long ago, 50
> intelligence officials — each of them smarter and better informed than
> any DHS brainiac — assured the nation that the Hunter Biden laptop
> story bore “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information
> operation.” How did that work out? The idea that Covid could have come
> from a Chinese lab was similarly dismissed as disinformation; now it’s
> considered a legitimate possibility by the Biden administration.
> Meanwhile, we have documented proof from the Washington Post that even
> Joe Biden can’t handle simple truths! (We don’t need to reassess the
> Donald Trump presidency here, do we?)
>
> Making the federal government the official custodian of truth would be
> like Brink’s giving a safe-cracker a job driving an armored car. On
> top of that, who is going to accept DHS’ determinations? Not
> reporters, who are accustomed to government lies. Not the man in the
> street. Certainly not the so-called low-information voters the
> government would like to diaper and stuff into an escape-proof
> playpen. By conjuring the Disinformation Governance Board into
> existence, the Biden administration will give itself a referee’s power
> to declare some things completely out of bounds. Without stepping out
> on the slippery slope, that would give Biden’s people the power to
> find some things dangerous or objectionable. After branding something
> disinformation, it’s only a short slide to suppressing the contested
> information or replacing it with what Kellyanne Conway fancifully
> called “alternative facts.”
>
> If Russian disinformation is a problem, it has been so for almost a
> century. As Lawfare reported in 2017, the Russians started sending out
> fake defectors in the 1930s to spread disinformation in the West.
> After World War II, the Soviets shifted their focus to the United
> States. Two years after the surrender of Nazi Germany, Soviet
> leadership sought to influence public opinion by covertly funding
> newspapers and radio stations around the world and establishing fronts
> to nurture communism. It forged documents and attempted to plant them
> in credible publications. In one disinformation campaign, it
> promulgated the tall tale that AIDS was the product of an American
> biological weapons experimentation. And so on.
>
> Somehow we survived the Soviet onslaught without a Disinformation
> Governance Board to guide us. Not every particle of disinformation can
> be blocked. Anybody who is good at inventing lies can produce
> disinformation faster than anybody can shoot disinformation down. (See
> this RAND report about the Russian “firehose“ of lies.) Instead of
> installing a Truth Politburo at DHS, the government should leave the
> job of policing disinformation to the competitive organs of the press,
> which compete “to obtain the earliest and most correct intelligence of
> the time, and instantly, by disclosing them to make them the common
> property of the nation,” as Times of London editor J. T. Delane put it
> in 1852.
>
> If DHS so badly needs a paperwork project, it can address a problem
> closer to home: set up a bureau to study and eradicate U.S. government
> disinformation.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/04/29/dont-trust-the-government-00029103
>

It is interesting that they didn’t see a need for it until Musk bought
Twitter. Now that their algorithms are about to be outed this “governance
board” can claim false information.

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George.Anthony wrote:
> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>> To paraphrase someone in here: For those of you with short attention
>> spans, here is a summary of the C&P to follow.
>>
>> HawHawHaw!
>>
>> "Disinformation Governance Board"
>> HawHawHaw!
>>
>> I love it. I just bygod love it.
>> HawHawHaw!
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Here comes the Department of Homeland Security — that heavily funded
>> guardian of our national borders, enforcer of the immigration laws,
>> preventer of terrorism, protector of U.S. coastal waters, keeper of
>> cybersecurity and coordinator of disaster preparedness — with yet
>> another sweeping assignment. On Wednesday, DHS Secretary Alejandro
>> Mayorkas announced at a House hearing the formation of a
>> Disinformation Governance Board, which will carry the agency’s fight
>> to a new front. The board will battle disinformation.
>>
>> What will the board do? Where will the war be waged? Information on
>> the Biden administration’s war on disinformation proved scarce. When
>> the Associated Press asked DHS for an interview for details, the
>> department stiffed them, according to the AP’s April 28 story. The
>> next afternoon, a reporter asked White House press secretary Jen Psaki
>> for more about the board at a presser, and she was pretty vacant, too.
>> “I really haven’t dug into this exactly. I mean, we, of course,
>> support this effort, but let me see if I can get more specifics.”
>>
>> The press did pry out of DHS the board’s goal to contest
>> disinformation crafted by Russia as well as the general disinformation
>> (authors unstated) that had deceived immigrants from Haiti and other
>> places that the U.S. southern border was open. Republicans like Sen.
>> Josh Hawley of Missouri and conservative media like the Washington
>> Times flipped out at the announcement, dusting off their Orwell and
>> combing out their fright-wigs to warn of an impending DHS crackdown on
>> not just free speech but free thinking. “This is dangerous and
>> un-American,” Hawley said in a statement. “The board should be
>> immediately dissolved.”
>>
>> The idea that the Biden administration would pulp the First Amendment
>> and institute an authoritarian regime through its agents at DHS is
>> immediately dismissible if only because it is one of the most
>> ineffectual departments in the president’s Cabinet. Had Biden given
>> the task to Agriculture or Commerce or another department with a
>> better GPA in governing, we should be afraid. But DHS couldn’t stamp
>> out disinformation or erect an American Reich if we reallocated to it
>> all of the arms we’re currently shipping to Ukraine. It’s peopled by a
>> confederacy of dunces and botch-artists, incapable of carrying out its
>> current mission. For instance, DHS shrugged off the Jan. 6 warning
>> signs, according to a Government Accountability Office report. It
>> failed to share intelligence about the wave of Haitian immigrants who
>> breached the border in 2021. (Based on its track record, DHS’ content
>> monitors will surely miss any treacherous disinformation the Russkies
>> ship our way.) The department is so riddled with “copycat” programs
>> that duplicate duties handled by other federal agencies, Dara Lind
>> argued in Vox, that it should be abolished, a view held by many. In
>> 2020, former Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) wrote an op-ed regretting
>> having midwifed it with her Senate vote.
>>
>> But never mind DHS. Who among us thinks the government should add to
>> its work list the job of determining what is true and what is
>> disinformation? And who thinks the government is capable of telling
>> the truth? Our government produces lies and disinformation at
>> industrial scale and always has. It overclassifies vital information
>> to block its own citizens from becoming any the wiser. It pays
>> thousands of press aides to play hide the salami with facts.
>>
>> This is the government that lied about winning the war in Vietnam,
>> that said the Watergate affair was a “third-rate burglary,” that
>> fought a secret war in Nicaragua, that lied about a clandestine love
>> affair in the White House, that used faulty intelligence to force a
>> war in the Middle East. Even President Barack Obama shortchanged the
>> truth. Of 600 Obama statements PolitiFact checked during his
>> administration, a quarter of them fell into the “red zone” of being
>> false, mostly false, or “pants on fire” false. Not so long ago, 50
>> intelligence officials — each of them smarter and better informed than
>> any DHS brainiac — assured the nation that the Hunter Biden laptop
>> story bore “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information
>> operation.” How did that work out? The idea that Covid could have come
>> from a Chinese lab was similarly dismissed as disinformation; now it’s
>> considered a legitimate possibility by the Biden administration.
>> Meanwhile, we have documented proof from the Washington Post that even
>> Joe Biden can’t handle simple truths! (We don’t need to reassess the
>> Donald Trump presidency here, do we?)
>>
>> Making the federal government the official custodian of truth would be
>> like Brink’s giving a safe-cracker a job driving an armored car. On
>> top of that, who is going to accept DHS’ determinations? Not
>> reporters, who are accustomed to government lies. Not the man in the
>> street. Certainly not the so-called low-information voters the
>> government would like to diaper and stuff into an escape-proof
>> playpen. By conjuring the Disinformation Governance Board into
>> existence, the Biden administration will give itself a referee’s power
>> to declare some things completely out of bounds. Without stepping out
>> on the slippery slope, that would give Biden’s people the power to
>> find some things dangerous or objectionable. After branding something
>> disinformation, it’s only a short slide to suppressing the contested
>> information or replacing it with what Kellyanne Conway fancifully
>> called “alternative facts.”
>>
>> If Russian disinformation is a problem, it has been so for almost a
>> century. As Lawfare reported in 2017, the Russians started sending out
>> fake defectors in the 1930s to spread disinformation in the West.
>> After World War II, the Soviets shifted their focus to the United
>> States. Two years after the surrender of Nazi Germany, Soviet
>> leadership sought to influence public opinion by covertly funding
>> newspapers and radio stations around the world and establishing fronts
>> to nurture communism. It forged documents and attempted to plant them
>> in credible publications. In one disinformation campaign, it
>> promulgated the tall tale that AIDS was the product of an American
>> biological weapons experimentation. And so on.
>>
>> Somehow we survived the Soviet onslaught without a Disinformation
>> Governance Board to guide us. Not every particle of disinformation can
>> be blocked. Anybody who is good at inventing lies can produce
>> disinformation faster than anybody can shoot disinformation down. (See
>> this RAND report about the Russian “firehose“ of lies.) Instead of
>> installing a Truth Politburo at DHS, the government should leave the
>> job of policing disinformation to the competitive organs of the press,
>> which compete “to obtain the earliest and most correct intelligence of
>> the time, and instantly, by disclosing them to make them the common
>> property of the nation,” as Times of London editor J. T. Delane put it
>> in 1852.
>>
>> If DHS so badly needs a paperwork project, it can address a problem
>> closer to home: set up a bureau to study and eradicate U.S. government
>> disinformation.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/04/29/dont-trust-the-government-00029103
>>
>
> It is interesting that they didn’t see a need for it until Musk bought
> Twitter. Now that their algorithms are about to be outed this “governance
> board” can claim false information.
>
At the end of the day going forward, I'm sure that it's literally just
a coincidence taken out of context, and due to the significance of the
passage of time, all will become clear as the messaging evolves in the
passage of time going forward - or backwards, when the truths
concealed in history will be efficaciously unearthed and revealed in
the passage of time.


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 by: Frank Howell - Sun, 1 May 2022 17:59 UTC

bfh wrote:
> To paraphrase someone in here: For those of you with short attention
> spans, here is a summary of the C&P to follow.
>
> HawHawHaw!
>
> "Disinformation Governance Board"
> HawHawHaw!
>
> I love it. I just bygod love it.
> HawHawHaw!
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This program was probably imported from China.

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Frank Howell

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Frank Howell wrote:
> bfh wrote:
>> To paraphrase someone in here: For those of you with short attention
>> spans, here is a summary of the C&P to follow.
>>
>> HawHawHaw!
>>
>> "Disinformation Governance Board"
>> HawHawHaw!
>>
>> I love it. I just bygod love it.
>> HawHawHaw!
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> This program was probably imported from China.
>
And reshelved at Walmart in the fertilizer section.

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bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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