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* Is there a remedy against blundering?nastyhorsefork
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|  `* Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?Eli Kesef
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Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
From: Eli Kesef
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Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 8:40:50 AM UTC+2, Eli Kesef wrote:
On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 10:50:28 PM UTC+2, azigni wrote:
They are only blunders if they do not look brilliant by the end of the
game.
Bs"d

Good point. That will happen some times, that after a horrible blunder, it turns out there is a brilliant hidden win.

Can't remember when that happened to me though.

Bs"d

Got one! 

One of those coarse blunders which make you look brilliant!    https://lichess.org/ukhjGVOpSUwM

On move 23 I blundered away my queen.  Totally absolutely not seen. 

My cursor moved to the resign button, and then, then I saw it!  Mate in 2!

Chess can be so incredibly funny!

And it can also be like you want to take a sledge hammer to your computer.

It all depends on the time of day, phase of the moon, high or low tide, earth rays, karma, and more stuff like that.

Let's face it:  Chess is a game of chance.

https://tinyurl.com/two-plus-two





Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 2:05:07 AM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
Bs"d

It is depressing when you play over a winning game with Stockfish and then you see how many times you blundered, and how many times the enemy could have slaughtered you... :(

Just recall that Petrosian himself, in a crucial game in the Candidates tournament in 1956, in a winning position, under no time pressure, when his opponent had only one active piece on the board, managed to hang his queen.

Compared to that, all my many blunders look rather inconsequential.

William Hyde



Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 11:29:35 PM UTC+2, William Hyde wrote:
On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 2:05:07 AM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:
Bs"d

It is depressing when you play over a winning game with Stockfish and then you see how many times you blundered, and how many times the enemy could have slaughtered you... :(
Just recall that Petrosian himself, in a crucial game in the Candidates tournament in 1956, in a winning position, under no time pressure, when his opponent had only one active piece on the board, managed to hang his queen.

Compared to that, all my many blunders look rather inconsequential.

William Hyde

Bs"d

Reminds me of the first world championship match between Magnus and Vishy.   Magnus gave the game away with a terrible blunder, and after that Vishy blundered as least as bad by not seeing it, and Magnus could save the game.

After his blunder and after Vishy did an innocent move, Magnus' head sunk on the table.  :)

I guess we all blunder.    But some more than others.

https://tinyurl.com/blunders-lie-in-wait


Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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Bs"d

I thought I played blunderful, but now I know I'm not so bad after all.   It can always be worse. 

In this very amusing youtube an IM goes over a game of two 700 players.  It is a short game, and it contains 19 blunders.  
The comment of the IM is hilaric.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POVEOmjcZwI&t=241s

I feel a lot better now about my games.  :D

https://tinyurl.com/last-blunder  


Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:21:40 PM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:
Bs"d

I thought I played blunderful, but now I know I'm not so bad after all. It can always be worse.

In this very amusing youtube an IM goes over a game of two 700 players. It is a short game, and it contains 19 blunders.
The comment of the IM is hilaric. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POVEOmjcZwI&t=241s

I feel a lot better now about my games. :D

This is one of the good things about chess. No matter how bad you are, there is someone worse.  And now lichess makes it easy to find them.

William Hyde



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Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
From: nastyhor...@gmail.com (Eli Kesef)
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On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 11:16:34 PM UTC+2, William Hyde wrote:
On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:21:40 PM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:
Bs"d

I thought I played blunderful, but now I know I'm not so bad after all. It can always be worse.

In this very amusing youtube an IM goes over a game of two 700 players. It is a short game, and it contains 19 blunders.
The comment of the IM is hilaric. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POVEOmjcZwI&t=241s

I feel a lot better now about my games. :D
This is one of the good things about chess. No matter how bad you are, there is someone worse. And now lichess makes it easy to find them.

William Hyde

Bs"d

Thank God for Lichess!

https://tinyurl.com/drink-gnat


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Subject: Re: Is there a remedy against blundering?
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On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 2:39:28 PM UTC+2, Eli Kesef wrote:

But those are the best games, where you back is against the wall, you are positionally or materially in problems, you fight on, and then you win the game anyway.

Never say die!

Bs"d

Got another one:  https://lichess.org/JAcPMsspkba8 On move 18 the enemy took a piece from me, and checked me.  
No problem, all was foreseen, and I could take his piece, and continue my attack. 
The only problem was that the check scared me so much, that I thought I made a horrible mistake, that I was now obligated to move my king, and would loose a piece.
So I moved my king an lost a piece. 
While all the while I could just take the chess giving bishop.

Struck with total chess blindness.

Or more accurate,  I didn't even bother to look, I knew I made a mistake, I had to move my king, no need to look at he position.

I have to work on that.

But I didn't let me being a piece down bring me down.  I fought on.  After all, I was playing somebody who was 188 points lower than me, so I soldiered on.

On move 20 I managed to exchange a castle for 2 bishops, having one measly point profit.   But beggars can't be choosers.

And a handful of moves later the enemy worked himself into quite a mess, where he had to choose between loosing his queen or loosing his king. 
He choose for the latter, and I managed to win the game.

HalleluJah!!

https://tinyurl.com/res-no-win


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On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 7:42:42 AM UTC-6, Eli Kesef wrote:
Bs"d

Is there a cure for playing blunderfull?

My big problem is my rotten play and especially my blunders. Just played a nice game, routed a decent player, https://lichess.org/V2zsemfOzMIL but when playing it over again, I saw that on move 30 the opponent blundered away a castle, and I didn't see it, but went on to win a pawn.
Didn't matter too much in the result, the opponent resigned on move 32, but it is not good.

All my games are riddled with blunders like that.

Does anybody know a solution for that?

Playing versus the computer can help with that.   Maybe twenty games later I wasn't leaving the diagonal holes for the bishops and queen.  It is predictable in taking advantage of certain faults and it helps make those faults go away.


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