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* The Vinland Map is a fakeSolomonW
+- Re: The Vinland Map is a fakeirfani indonesia
+- Re: The Vinland Map is a fakea425couple
`* Re: The Vinland Map is a fakeEric Stevens
 `* Re: The Vinland Map is a fakeSolomonW
  +- Re: The Vinland Map is a fakeirfani indonesia
  `- Re: The Vinland Map is a fakeEric Stevens

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The Vinland Map is a fake

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Subject: The Vinland Map is a fake
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 by: SolomonW - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 09:59 UTC

This has long been discussed here and our suspicions are correct that its a
fake.

The ink dates from the 1920's

https://www.sciencealert.com/one-of-the-most-famous-viking-maps-of-north-america-has-turned-out-to-be-a-fake

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 by: irfani indonesia - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:33 UTC

On Thursday, 30 September 2021 at 15:29:37 UTC+5:30, SolomonW wrote:
> This has long been discussed here and our suspicions are correct that its a
> fake.
>
> The ink dates from the 1920's
>
>
> https://www.sciencealert.com/one-of-the-most-famous-viking-maps-of-north-america-has-turned-out-to-be-a-fake
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On 9/30/2021 2:59 AM, SolomonW wrote:
> This has long been discussed here and our suspicions are correct that its a
> fake.
>
> The ink dates from the 1920's
>
> https://www.sciencealert.com/one-of-the-most-famous-viking-maps-of-north-america-has-turned-out-to-be-a-fake
>
Vineland map came to light in 1957.

However in 1960 the Norse site at L'Anse aux Meadows in
was found and explored.

also note:
The Cantino planisphere (1502), which was the first world map to show
the Americas separate from Asia
anonymous Portuguese (1502) - Biblioteca Estense Universitaria,
Modena, Italy
The Cantino planisphere, completed by an unknown Portuguese cartographer
in 1502, is one of the most precious cartographic documents of all
times. It depicts the world, as it became known to the Europeans after
the great exploration voyages at the end of the fifteenth and beginning
of the sixteenth century to the Americas, Africa and India. It is now
kept in the Biblioteca Universitaria Estense, Modena, Italy
note:

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On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 19:59:38 +1000, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
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>This has long been discussed here and our suspicions are correct that its a
>fake.
>
>The ink dates from the 1920's
>
>
>https://www.sciencealert.com/one-of-the-most-famous-viking-maps-of-north-america-has-turned-out-to-be-a-fake

Gee! I'm old enough to remember the arguments about the ink. I'm also
old enough to remember when the physical evidence was discovered which
established *exactly* how the forgery was created and by whom. That
part of the story is very interesting.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

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On Fri, 01 Oct 2021 20:41:23 +1300, Eric Stevens wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 19:59:38 +1000, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
> wrote:
>
>>This has long been discussed here and our suspicions are correct that its a
>>fake.
>>
>>The ink dates from the 1920's
>>
>>
>>https://www.sciencealert.com/one-of-the-most-famous-viking-maps-of-north-america-has-turned-out-to-be-a-fake
>
> Gee! I'm old enough to remember the arguments about the ink.

They went on and on here.

> I'm also
> old enough to remember when the physical evidence was discovered which
> established *exactly* how the forgery was created and by whom. That
> part of the story is very interesting.

Who wrote it?

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On Saturday, 2 October 2021 at 14:17:49 UTC+5:30, SolomonW wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Oct 2021 20:41:23 +1300, Eric Stevens wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 19:59:38 +1000, SolomonW <Solo...@citi.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>This has long been discussed here and our suspicions are correct that its a
> >>fake.
> >>
> >>The ink dates from the 1920's
> >>
> >>
> >>https://www.sciencealert.com/one-of-the-most-famous-viking-maps-of-north-america-has-turned-out-to-be-a-fake
> >
> > Gee! I'm old enough to remember the arguments about the ink.
> They went on and on here.
> > I'm also
> > old enough to remember when the physical evidence was discovered which
> > established *exactly* how the forgery was created and by whom. That
> > part of the story is very interesting.
> Who wrote it?
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On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 18:47:52 +1000, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Oct 2021 20:41:23 +1300, Eric Stevens wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 19:59:38 +1000, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>This has long been discussed here and our suspicions are correct that its a
>>>fake.
>>>
>>>The ink dates from the 1920's
>>>
>>>
>>>https://www.sciencealert.com/one-of-the-most-famous-viking-maps-of-north-america-has-turned-out-to-be-a-fake
>>
>> Gee! I'm old enough to remember the arguments about the ink.
>
>They went on and on here.
>
>> I'm also
>> old enough to remember when the physical evidence was discovered which
>> established *exactly* how the forgery was created and by whom. That
>> part of the story is very interesting.
>
>Who wrote it?

Its a long time ago and I have forgotten all the details. As I recall
it the book was found from which the paper was taken for the forgery.
Physical evidence confirmed the connection. At the same time the chain
of ownership of the source book was found to pass through the same
dealer who had 'found' the map in the first place. He had the map the
book and the opportunity.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

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