On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
>
>     This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels before I
> get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in Burns--300
> miles from home--so we came home a couple of days sooner than we
> expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point. Since I came home in
> one piece and I'm still married I consider our vacation a success. I'll
> have more to say about our travels when I'm feeling better.
>
>     It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm already
> starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of smell. I'm taking
> Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be worse than the disease.
> My mouth tastes like I've been eating dandelion stems and I had some
> diarrhea this morning. These are known side effects. There are some
> other known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more to say about
> Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.
>
>      I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more concern about
> the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the Pfizer vaccine, which
> is probably the main reason I didn't get sicker and I was able to get an
> anti-viral medication when I did get sick. My odds of ending up in a
> hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop
> posting for a long period of time you can probably assume the unlikely
> worst case scenario.
>
> TB

Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also hope you
don't end up with some variation of long covid.

On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:20:51 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
> On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> >
> > This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels before I
> > get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in Burns--300
> > miles from home--so we came home a couple of days sooner than we
> > expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point. Since I came home in
> > one piece and I'm still married I consider our vacation a success. I'll
> > have more to say about our travels when I'm feeling better.
> >
> > It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm already
> > starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of smell. I'm taking
> > Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be worse than the disease.
> > My mouth tastes like I've been eating dandelion stems and I had some
> > diarrhea this morning. These are known side effects. There are some
> > other known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more to say about
> > Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.
> >
> > I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more concern about
> > the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the Pfizer vaccine, which
> > is probably the main reason I didn't get sicker and I was able to get an
> > anti-viral medication when I did get sick. My odds of ending up in a
> > hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop
> > posting for a long period of time you can probably assume the unlikely
> > worst case scenario.
> >
> > TB
> Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also hope you
> don't end up with some variation of long covid.

He probably was infected by sitting on a dirty toilet seat in some filthy gas station, or seeking hydration from a drinking fountain, frequented by those sweet old "Hoover kissing" Grandmas who were Covid+?

Dr. Ben Casey Jr.

On 6/25/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
>> On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>
>>>      This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels before
>>> I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in Burns--300
>>> miles from home--so we came home a couple of days sooner than we
>>> expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point. Since I came home
>>> in one piece and I'm still married I consider our vacation a success.
>>> I'll have more to say about our travels when I'm feeling better.
>>>
>>>      It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm already
>>> starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of smell. I'm
>>> taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be worse than the
>>> disease. My mouth tastes like I've been eating dandelion stems and I
>>> had some diarrhea this morning. These are known side effects. There
>>> are some other known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more
>>> to say about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.
>>>
>>>       I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more concern
>>> about the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the Pfizer
>>> vaccine, which is probably the main reason I didn't get sicker and I
>>> was able to get an anti-viral medication when I did get sick. My odds
>>> of ending up in a hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If
>>> I suddenly stop posting for a long period of time you can probably
>>> assume the unlikely worst case scenario.
>>>
>>> TB
>>
>> Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also hope
>> you don't end up with some variation of long covid.
>
>     Of course we're not really certain where I got infected, but our
> best guess is better story than Don's guesses. The Forest Service is
> doing something very annoying at the Lava River Cave. When their parking
> lot fills up they simply close the gate at the entrance. There are no
> signs to warn anyone whats going on until you finally reach the
> entrance. We saw cars parked on the shoulder near the entrance and got
> in that line. It was even more confusing for the people who came from
> the opposite direction, where there was no line. Their signs are so
> small and poorly located that no one could read them from the opposite
> side of the highway. So there was about a 45 minute delay before we
> could park. Then there's another delay while you wait for a 10 minute
> orientation about some bat disease that's killing off a lot of bats.
> White Nose disease IIRC. Once they have everyone nicely bunched up you
> can go stand in line to pay for the admission and rent a strong
> flashlight if you need one.
>
>      When we finally reached the entrance to the cave there was a big
> family group blocking the path getting ready for a group selfie. Even
> under ordinary circumstance I get annoyed with people who block the path
> for their damn selfie. Dad asked if I would take their picture. I told
> him I would if that would get them out of my way any faster. I wasn't
> masked because I was outside and distancing. I think Dad infected me
> while we were handing his camera back and forth. This would explain why
> I got infected and my wife didn't. She tested negative on Thursday and
> positive on Friday. Most likely I infected her before I realized I was
> sick.
>
>      So far it looks like both of us are going to do fine. My symptoms
> are mild enough that I considered passing on the Paxlovid. I'm only
> taking it as a rather annoying precaution. While I'm not completely over
> it I'm feeling much better this morning. For my wife it was a bit more
> important. She starts on her Paxlovid this morning. They're telling
> everyone to start taking it in the morning. This is probably because
> they're worried about people with Covid becoming confused. What you get
> is 5 blister packs with 6 pills divided into a morning and evening dose.
> You're actually taking 2 different drugs.
>
>     The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a month ago and he
> expected that sooner or later just about everyone would catch it. I can
> believe it. My exposure to other people has been very limited. This
> stuff obviously passes from person to person very easily.
>
>     Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother story that I'll
> post in the near future. I have a lot of stories to get to.
>
>      Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical professionals we have spoken with
> said that a 5 day isolation period is BULLSHIT. Everyone has told us a
> 10 to 14 day isolation period is more realistic. I got the impression
> that they're saying this frequently to anyone who will listen.
>
>     One last thought and I'll get this thing off my desk. We're
> fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive company that's based
> in San Francisco. They don't have an official Covid policy because they
> don't need one. My wife works from home and she can take as much time
> off as she needs, with full pay, for any illness.
>
> TB

Thanks for the followup. We seem to be among the "lucky" few who haven't
gotten it, yet. I'll be just as happy to stay that way, too.

--
Liz Cheney For President!

Technobarbarian wrote:
> On 6/25/2022 7:34 PM, kmiller wrote:
>> On 6/25/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
>>>> On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      This is probably what I get for bragging about my
>>>>> travels before I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on
>>>>> Wednesday in Burns--300 miles from home--so we came home a couple
>>>>> of days sooner than we expected. It had been a fun trip up to
>>>>> that point. Since I came home in one piece and I'm still married
>>>>> I consider our vacation a success. I'll have more to say about
>>>>> our travels when I'm feeling better.
>>>>>
>>>>>      It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm
>>>>> already starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of
>>>>> smell. I'm taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be
>>>>> worse than the disease. My mouth tastes like I've been eating
>>>>> dandelion stems and I had some diarrhea this morning. These are
>>>>> known side effects. There are some other known side effects that
>>>>> can be worse. I'll have more to say about Paxlovid when I'm
>>>>> feeling better.
>>>>>
>>>>>       I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more
>>>>> concern about the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the
>>>>> Pfizer vaccine, which is probably the main reason I didn't get
>>>>> sicker and I was able to get an anti-viral medication when I did
>>>>> get sick. My odds of ending up in a hospital appear to be very
>>>>> low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop posting for a long period
>>>>> of time you can probably assume the unlikely worst case scenario.
>>>>>
>>>>> TB
>>>>
>>>> Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also
>>>> hope you don't end up with some variation of long covid.
>>>
>>>      Of course we're not really certain where I got infected,
>>> but our best guess is better story than Don's guesses. The Forest
>>> Service is doing something very annoying at the Lava River Cave.
>>> When their parking lot fills up they simply close the gate at the
>>> entrance. There are no signs to warn anyone whats going on until
>>> you finally reach the entrance. We saw cars parked on the shoulder
>>> near the entrance and got in that line. It was even more confusing
>>> for the people who came from the opposite direction, where there
>>> was no line. Their signs are so small and poorly located that no
>>> one could read them from the opposite side of the highway. So there
>>> was about a 45 minute delay before we could park. Then there's
>>> another delay while you wait for a 10 minute orientation about some
>>> bat disease that's killing off a lot of bats. White Nose disease
>>> IIRC. Once they have everyone nicely bunched up you can go stand in
>>> line to pay for the admission and rent a strong flashlight if you
>>> need one.
>>>
>>>       When we finally reached the entrance to the cave there
>>> was a big family group blocking the path getting ready for a group
>>> selfie. Even under ordinary circumstance I get annoyed with people
>>> who block the path for their damn selfie. Dad asked if I would take
>>> their picture. I told him I would if that would get them out of my
>>> way any faster. I wasn't masked because I was outside and
>>> distancing. I think Dad infected me while we were handing his
>>> camera back and forth. This would explain why I got infected and my
>>> wife didn't. She tested negative on Thursday and positive on
>>> Friday. Most likely I infected her before I realized I was sick.
>>>
>>>       So far it looks like both of us are going to do fine. My
>>> symptoms are mild enough that I considered passing on the Paxlovid.
>>> I'm only taking it as a rather annoying precaution. While I'm not
>>> completely over it I'm feeling much better this morning. For my
>>> wife it was a bit more important. She starts on her Paxlovid this
>>> morning. They're telling everyone to start taking it in the
>>> morning. This is probably because they're worried about people with
>>> Covid becoming confused. What you get is 5 blister packs with 6
>>> pills divided into a morning and evening dose. You're actually
>>> taking 2 different drugs.
>>>
>>>      The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a month ago
>>> and he expected that sooner or later just about everyone would
>>> catch it. I can believe it. My exposure to other people has been
>>> very limited. This stuff obviously passes from person to person
>>> very easily.
>>>
>>>      Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother story
>>> that I'll post in the near future. I have a lot of stories to get to.
>>>
>>>       Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical professionals we have
>>> spoken with said that a 5 day isolation period is BULLSHIT.
>>> Everyone has told us a 10 to 14 day isolation period is more
>>> realistic. I got the impression that they're saying this frequently
>>> to anyone who will listen.
>>>
>>>      One last thought and I'll get this thing off my desk.
>>> We're fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive company
>>> that's based in San Francisco. They don't have an official Covid
>>> policy because they don't need one. My wife works from home and she
>>> can take as much time off as she needs, with full pay, for any
>>> illness.
>>>
>>> TB
>>
>> Thanks for the followup. We seem to be among the "lucky" few who
>> haven't gotten it, yet. I'll be just as happy to stay that way, too.
>>
>> --
>> Liz Cheney For President!
>
>       I feel sort of like someone from The Invasion of the Body
> Snatchers. And I'm saying, "Come on in, the water is fine." "Hey,
> we're all out here havin' a good time." I feel so "radioactive" that I
> should have an obvious green glow.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP_SdjD5ms
>
> "Invasion of the Body Snatchers (12/12) Movie CLIP - The Scream (1978)
> HD"
>
>     My wife is back to work today. But, I think the world sort of
> changed around me.
>
> TB

At the end of the end of the day going forward, whether or not you
like the metrics of the self-perceived change, because of the
significance of the passage of time, it's literally
transitory..............and according to some experts, the only thing
permanent is change. Follow the science.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Technobarbarian wrote:
> On 7/2/2022 10:14 AM, bfh wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On 6/25/2022 7:34 PM, kmiller wrote:
>>>> On 6/25/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>> On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      This is probably what I get for bragging about
>>>>>>> my travels before I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on
>>>>>>> Wednesday in Burns--300 miles from home--so we came home a
>>>>>>> couple of days sooner than we expected. It had been a fun trip
>>>>>>> up to that point. Since I came home in one piece and I'm still
>>>>>>> married I consider our vacation a success. I'll have more to
>>>>>>> say about our travels when I'm feeling better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild
>>>>>>> case. I'm already starting to feel better and I haven't lost my
>>>>>>> sense of smell. I'm taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The
>>>>>>> Paxlovid might be worse than the disease. My mouth tastes like
>>>>>>> I've been eating dandelion stems and I had some diarrhea this
>>>>>>> morning. These are known side effects. There are some other
>>>>>>> known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more to say
>>>>>>> about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       I think I'm a good example of why there
>>>>>>> isn't more concern about the current surge in cases. I had 4
>>>>>>> shots of the Pfizer vaccine, which is probably the main reason
>>>>>>> I didn't get sicker and I was able to get an anti-viral
>>>>>>> medication when I did get sick. My odds of ending up in a
>>>>>>> hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If I suddenly
>>>>>>> stop posting for a long period of time you can probably assume
>>>>>>> the unlikely worst case scenario.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also
>>>>>> hope you don't end up with some variation of long covid.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Of course we're not really certain where I got
>>>>> infected, but our best guess is better story than Don's guesses.
>>>>> The Forest Service is doing something very annoying at the Lava
>>>>> River Cave. When their parking lot fills up they simply close the
>>>>> gate at the entrance. There are no signs to warn anyone whats
>>>>> going on until you finally reach the entrance. We saw cars parked
>>>>> on the shoulder near the entrance and got in that line. It was
>>>>> even more confusing for the people who came from the opposite
>>>>> direction, where there was no line. Their signs are so small and
>>>>> poorly located that no one could read them from the opposite side
>>>>> of the highway. So there was about a 45 minute delay before we
>>>>> could park. Then there's another delay while you wait for a 10
>>>>> minute orientation about some bat disease that's killing off a
>>>>> lot of bats. White Nose disease IIRC. Once they have everyone
>>>>> nicely bunched up you can go stand in line to pay for the
>>>>> admission and rent a strong flashlight if you need one.
>>>>>
>>>>>       When we finally reached the entrance to the
>>>>> cave there was a big family group blocking the path getting ready
>>>>> for a group selfie. Even under ordinary circumstance I get
>>>>> annoyed with people who block the path for their damn selfie. Dad
>>>>> asked if I would take their picture. I told him I would if that
>>>>> would get them out of my way any faster. I wasn't masked because
>>>>> I was outside and distancing. I think Dad infected me while we
>>>>> were handing his camera back and forth. This would explain why I
>>>>> got infected and my wife didn't. She tested negative on Thursday
>>>>> and positive on Friday. Most likely I infected her before I
>>>>> realized I was sick.
>>>>>
>>>>>       So far it looks like both of us are going to
>>>>> do fine. My symptoms are mild enough that I considered passing on
>>>>> the Paxlovid. I'm only taking it as a rather annoying precaution.
>>>>> While I'm not completely over it I'm feeling much better this
>>>>> morning. For my wife it was a bit more important. She starts on
>>>>> her Paxlovid this morning. They're telling everyone to start
>>>>> taking it in the morning. This is probably because they're
>>>>> worried about people with Covid becoming confused. What you get
>>>>> is 5 blister packs with 6 pills divided into a morning and
>>>>> evening dose. You're actually taking 2 different drugs.
>>>>>
>>>>>      The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a
>>>>> month ago and he expected that sooner or later just about
>>>>> everyone would catch it. I can believe it. My exposure to other
>>>>> people has been very limited. This stuff obviously passes from
>>>>> person to person very easily.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother
>>>>> story that I'll post in the near future. I have a lot of stories
>>>>> to get to.
>>>>>
>>>>>       Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical
>>>>> professionals we have spoken with said that a 5 day isolation
>>>>> period is BULLSHIT. Everyone has told us a 10 to 14 day isolation
>>>>> period is more realistic. I got the impression that they're
>>>>> saying this frequently to anyone who will listen.
>>>>>
>>>>>      One last thought and I'll get this thing off my
>>>>> desk. We're fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive
>>>>> company that's based in San Francisco. They don't have an
>>>>> official Covid policy because they don't need one. My wife works
>>>>> from home and she can take as much time off as she needs, with
>>>>> full pay, for any illness.
>>>>>
>>>>> TB
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the followup. We seem to be among the "lucky" few who
>>>> haven't gotten it, yet. I'll be just as happy to stay that way, too.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Liz Cheney For President!
>>>
>>>        I feel sort of like someone from The Invasion of the
>>> Body Snatchers. And I'm saying, "Come on in, the water is fine."
>>> "Hey, we're all out here havin' a good time." I feel so
>>> "radioactive" that I should have an obvious green glow.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP_SdjD5ms
>>>
>>> "Invasion of the Body Snatchers (12/12) Movie CLIP - The Scream
>>> (1978) HD"
>>>
>>>      My wife is back to work today. But, I think the world sort
>>> of changed around me.
>>>
>>> TB
>>
>> At the end of the end of the day going forward, whether or not you
>> like the metrics of the self-perceived change, because of the
>> significance of the passage of time, it's literally
>> transitory..............and according to some experts, the only
>> thing permanent is change. Follow the science.
>>
>
>      LOL If you want some real fun try following the science on
> isolating. Everyone has an opinion and a few "facts". None of them
> really agree.