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 by: kmiller - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 01:25 UTC

Dust to dust. And composting humans. I'd recommend it for the orange
goon but that would be toxic waste! HawHawHaw!

California lawmakers have approved a new way of returning those who have
died to the earth, after Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill allowing
human composting on Sunday.

Cremation, which accounts for more than half of burials, is an
energy-intensive process that emits chemicals such as CO2 into the air.
Through human composting, or natural organic reduction (NOR), the body
is naturally broken down into soil.

Assembly Bill 351, drafted by assembly member Cristina Garcia, allows
for the natural organic reduction of human remains to soil, as a more
environmentally friendly alternative to traditional burial methods.

“With climate change and sea-level rise as very real threats to our
environment, this is an alternative method of final disposition that
won’t contribute emissions into our atmosphere,” Garcia said in a statement.

The process involves placing the deceased in an 8ft-long steel box with
biodegradable materials such as wood chips and flowers. After 30 to 60
days, the body breaks down into soil that can be returned to relatives.

California is the fifth state to legalize human composting, after
Washington, Colorado, Vermont and Oregon. The demand for such after-life
care has been growing in recent years said Micah Truman, founder and CEO
of Return Home, a funeral home in the Seattle area that specializes in
human composting.

“With cremation, instead of sitting with our person and saying goodbye,
we are very divorced from the process,” he said.

Not everyone is supportive of the new California bill, with the
California Catholic Conference saying the composting process “reduces
the human body to simply a disposable commodity”.

“The practice of respectfully burying the bodies or the honoring of the
ashes of the deceased comports with the virtually universal norm of
reverence and care towards the deceased,” it said.

But Truman said there was such a large demand for human composting, and
so few states that allow it, that people from 12 different states have
brought their loved ones over state lines to be composted at Return Home.

Truman said that when a body is composted, it is returned to the family
to do with it as they wish. Customers have planted trees and flowers, or
spread soil into the ocean.

One farmer requested before dying that his body be returned to the farm
he spent his life tending. “There is no limit to what can be done with
the soil after death,” Truman said.

Composting runs at about $5,000 to $7,000, compared with the median price of
$7,225 for casket burials and $6,028 for cremation in California.
Garcia, who had tried to pass the bill for the past three years,
emphasized the environmental argument for composting in a statement.

“The wildfires, extreme drought and heat dome we just experienced remind
us that climate change is real and detrimental and we must do everything
we can to reduce methane and CO2 emissions,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/19/human-composting-california-human-remains-green-burial

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Technobarbarian wrote:
> On 9/20/2022 6:25 PM, kmiller wrote:
>> Dust to dust. And composting humans. I'd recommend it for the orange
>> goon but that would be toxic waste! HawHawHaw!
>>
>> California lawmakers have approved a new way of returning those who
>> have died to the earth, after Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill
>> allowing human composting on Sunday.
>>
>> Cremation, which accounts for more than half of burials, is an
>> energy-intensive process that emits chemicals such as CO2 into the
>> air. Through human composting, or natural organic reduction (NOR),
>> the body is naturally broken down into soil.
>>
>> Assembly Bill 351, drafted by assembly member Cristina Garcia,
>> allows for the natural organic reduction of human remains to soil,
>> as a more environmentally friendly alternative to traditional burial
>> methods.
>>
>> “With climate change and sea-level rise as very real threats to
>> our environment, this is an alternative method of final disposition
>> that won’t contribute emissions into our atmosphere,” Garcia
>> said in a statement.
>>
>> The process involves placing the deceased in an 8ft-long steel box
>> with biodegradable materials such as wood chips and flowers. After
>> 30 to 60 days, the body breaks down into soil that can be returned
>> to relatives.
>>
>> California is the fifth state to legalize human composting, after
>> Washington, Colorado, Vermont and Oregon. The demand for such
>> after-life care has been growing in recent years said Micah Truman,
>> founder and CEO of Return Home, a funeral home in the Seattle area
>> that specializes in human composting.
>>
>> “With cremation, instead of sitting with our person and saying
>> goodbye, we are very divorced from the process,” he said.
>>
>> Not everyone is supportive of the new California bill, with the
>> California Catholic Conference saying the composting process
>> “reduces the human body to simply a disposable commodity”.
>>
>> “The practice of respectfully burying the bodies or the honoring
>> of the ashes of the deceased comports with the virtually universal
>> norm of reverence and care towards the deceased,” it said.
>>
>> But Truman said there was such a large demand for human composting,
>> and so few states that allow it, that people from 12 different
>> states have brought their loved ones over state lines to be
>> composted at Return Home.
>>
>> Truman said that when a body is composted, it is returned to the
>> family to do with it as they wish. Customers have planted trees and
>> flowers, or spread soil into the ocean.
>>
>> One farmer requested before dying that his body be returned to the
>> farm he spent his life tending. “There is no limit to what can be
>> done with the soil after death,” Truman said.
>>
>> Composting runs at about $5,000 to $7,000, compared with the median
>> price of
>> $7,225 for casket burials and $6,028 for cremation in California.
>> Garcia, who had tried to pass the bill for the past three years,
>> emphasized the environmental argument for composting in a statement.
>>
>> “The wildfires, extreme drought and heat dome we just experienced
>> remind us that climate change is real and detrimental and we must do
>> everything we can to reduce methane and CO2 emissions,” she said.
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/19/human-composting-california-human-remains-green-burial
>>
>
> Recompose, the first human-composting funeral home in the U.S., is now
> open for business
>
> Jan. 22, 2021 at 6:00 am Updated Jan. 22, 2021 at 5:19 pm
>
> https://www.seattletimes.com/life/recompose-the-first-human-compositing-funeral-home-in-the-u-s-is-now-open-for-business/
>
>
> "Carbon neutral funerals
>
> Earth provides the Pacific Northwest’s most sustainable funeral
> option. Make arrangements online, over the phone, or in-person."
>
> https://earthfuneral.com/?utm_term=body%20composting&utm_campaign=GF+%7C+NB+%7C+Human+Composting+Oregon+%7C+Search&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=9039600664&hsa_cam=17663777422&hsa_grp=139398576438&hsa_ad=608567351425&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-1021717080693&hsa_kw=body%20composting&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo3rUq7-Y5qJsNtdJMTWYy9FHUXmMmGfPeRHa87Op_Nfjqg-i8Ij6SRoC5cgQAvD_BwE

I'll bet they'd get a lot more business if they included a free bag of
Resurrection Lily bulbs with the finished compoperson. Probably
wouldn't hurt to also develop some unoffensive messaging to inform
potential customers that it's also called a Spider Lily........to
attract the anti-religion people.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: film...@gmail.com - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 03:23 UTC

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:48:39 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On 9/20/2022 6:25 PM, kmiller wrote:
> >> Dust to dust. And composting humans. I'd recommend it for the orange
> >> goon but that would be toxic waste! HawHawHaw!
> >>
> >> California lawmakers have approved a new way of returning those who
> >> have died to the earth, after Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill
> >> allowing human composting on Sunday.
> >>
> >> Cremation, which accounts for more than half of burials, is an
> >> energy-intensive process that emits chemicals such as CO2 into the
> >> air. Through human composting, or natural organic reduction (NOR),
> >> the body is naturally broken down into soil.
> >>
> >> Assembly Bill 351, drafted by assembly member Cristina Garcia,
> >> allows for the natural organic reduction of human remains to soil,
> >> as a more environmentally friendly alternative to traditional burial
> >> methods.
> >>
> >> “With climate change and sea-level rise as very real threats to
> >> our environment, this is an alternative method of final disposition
> >> that won’t contribute emissions into our atmosphere,†Garcia
> >> said in a statement.
> >>
> >> The process involves placing the deceased in an 8ft-long steel box
> >> with biodegradable materials such as wood chips and flowers. After
> >> 30 to 60 days, the body breaks down into soil that can be returned
> >> to relatives.
> >>
> >> California is the fifth state to legalize human composting, after
> >> Washington, Colorado, Vermont and Oregon. The demand for such
> >> after-life care has been growing in recent years said Micah Truman,
> >> founder and CEO of Return Home, a funeral home in the Seattle area
> >> that specializes in human composting.
> >>
> >> “With cremation, instead of sitting with our person and saying
> >> goodbye, we are very divorced from the process,†he said..
> >>
> >> Not everyone is supportive of the new California bill, with the
> >> California Catholic Conference saying the composting process
> >> “reduces the human body to simply a disposable commodity†.
> >>
> >> “The practice of respectfully burying the bodies or the honoring
> >> of the ashes of the deceased comports with the virtually universal
> >> norm of reverence and care towards the deceased,†it said.
> >>
> >> But Truman said there was such a large demand for human composting,
> >> and so few states that allow it, that people from 12 different
> >> states have brought their loved ones over state lines to be
> >> composted at Return Home.
> >>
> >> Truman said that when a body is composted, it is returned to the
> >> family to do with it as they wish. Customers have planted trees and
> >> flowers, or spread soil into the ocean.
> >>
> >> One farmer requested before dying that his body be returned to the
> >> farm he spent his life tending. “There is no limit to what can be
> >> done with the soil after death,†Truman said.
> >>
> >> Composting runs at about $5,000 to $7,000, compared with the median
> >> price of
> >> $7,225 for casket burials and $6,028 for cremation in California.
> >> Garcia, who had tried to pass the bill for the past three years,
> >> emphasized the environmental argument for composting in a statement.
> >>
> >> “The wildfires, extreme drought and heat dome we just experienced
> >> remind us that climate change is real and detrimental and we must do
> >> everything we can to reduce methane and CO2 emissions,†she said.
> >>
> >> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/19/human-composting-california-human-remains-green-burial
> >>
> >
> > Recompose, the first human-composting funeral home in the U.S., is now
> > open for business
> >
> > Jan. 22, 2021 at 6:00 am Updated Jan. 22, 2021 at 5:19 pm
> >
> > https://www.seattletimes.com/life/recompose-the-first-human-compositing-funeral-home-in-the-u-s-is-now-open-for-business/
> >
> >
> > "Carbon neutral funerals
> >
> > Earth provides the Pacific Northwest’s most sustainable funeral
> > option. Make arrangements online, over the phone, or in-person."
> >
> > https://earthfuneral.com/?utm_term=body%20composting&utm_campaign=GF+%7C+NB+%7C+Human+Composting+Oregon+%7C+Search&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=9039600664&hsa_cam=17663777422&hsa_grp=139398576438&hsa_ad=608567351425&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-1021717080693&hsa_kw=body%20composting&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo3rUq7-Y5qJsNtdJMTWYy9FHUXmMmGfPeRHa87Op_Nfjqg-i8Ij6SRoC5cgQAvD_BwE
> I'll bet they'd get a lot more business if they included a free bag of
> Resurrection Lily bulbs with the finished compoperson. Probably
> wouldn't hurt to also develop some unoffensive messaging to inform
> potential customers that it's also called a Spider Lily........to
> attract the anti-religion people.
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Well, guess I squandered my money needlessly on my place for eternity, down at the Santa Margarita Comm. Cemetery? Wonder if I can get a refund on my burial plot?

Silas Marner Jr.

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film...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:48:39 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2022 6:25 PM, kmiller wrote:
>>>> Dust to dust. And composting humans. I'd recommend it for the
>>>> orange goon but that would be toxic waste! HawHawHaw!
>>>>
>>>> California lawmakers have approved a new way of returning
>>>> those who have died to the earth, after Gavin Newsom signed
>>>> into law a bill allowing human composting on Sunday.
>>>>
>>>> Cremation, which accounts for more than half of burials, is
>>>> an energy-intensive process that emits chemicals such as CO2
>>>> into the air. Through human composting, or natural organic
>>>> reduction (NOR), the body is naturally broken down into
>>>> soil.
>>>>
>>>> Assembly Bill 351, drafted by assembly member Cristina
>>>> Garcia, allows for the natural organic reduction of human
>>>> remains to soil, as a more environmentally friendly
>>>> alternative to traditional burial methods.
>>>>
>>>> “With climate change and sea-level rise as very real
>>>> threats to our environment, this is an alternative method of
>>>> final disposition that won’t contribute emissions into
>>>> our atmosphere,†Garcia said in a statement.
>>>>
>>>> The process involves placing the deceased in an 8ft-long
>>>> steel box with biodegradable materials such as wood chips and
>>>> flowers. After 30 to 60 days, the body breaks down into soil
>>>> that can be returned to relatives.
>>>>
>>>> California is the fifth state to legalize human composting,
>>>> after Washington, Colorado, Vermont and Oregon. The demand
>>>> for such after-life care has been growing in recent years
>>>> said Micah Truman, founder and CEO of Return Home, a funeral
>>>> home in the Seattle area that specializes in human
>>>> composting.
>>>>
>>>> “With cremation, instead of sitting with our person and
>>>> saying goodbye, we are very divorced from the process,â€
>>>> he said.
>>>>
>>>> Not everyone is supportive of the new California bill, with
>>>> the California Catholic Conference saying the composting
>>>> process “reduces the human body to simply a disposable
>>>> commodity†.
>>>>
>>>> “The practice of respectfully burying the bodies or the
>>>> honoring of the ashes of the deceased comports with the
>>>> virtually universal norm of reverence and care towards the
>>>> deceased,†it said.
>>>>
>>>> But Truman said there was such a large demand for human
>>>> composting, and so few states that allow it, that people from
>>>> 12 different states have brought their loved ones over state
>>>> lines to be composted at Return Home.
>>>>
>>>> Truman said that when a body is composted, it is returned to
>>>> the family to do with it as they wish. Customers have planted
>>>> trees and flowers, or spread soil into the ocean.
>>>>
>>>> One farmer requested before dying that his body be returned
>>>> to the farm he spent his life tending. “There is no
>>>> limit to what can be done with the soil after death,â€
>>>> Truman said.
>>>>
>>>> Composting runs at about $5,000 to $7,000, compared with the
>>>> median price of $7,225 for casket burials and $6,028 for
>>>> cremation in California. Garcia, who had tried to pass the
>>>> bill for the past three years, emphasized the environmental
>>>> argument for composting in a statement.
>>>>
>>>> “The wildfires, extreme drought and heat dome we just
>>>> experienced remind us that climate change is real and
>>>> detrimental and we must do everything we can to reduce
>>>> methane and CO2 emissions,†she said.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/19/human-composting-california-human-remains-green-burial
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
Recompose, the first human-composting funeral home in the U.S., is now
>>> open for business
>>>
>>> Jan. 22, 2021 at 6:00 am Updated Jan. 22, 2021 at 5:19 pm
>>>
>>> https://www.seattletimes.com/life/recompose-the-first-human-compositing-funeral-home-in-the-u-s-is-now-open-for-business/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
"Carbon neutral funerals
>>>
>>> Earth provides the Pacific Northwest’s most sustainable
>>> funeral option. Make arrangements online, over the phone, or
>>> in-person."
>>>
>>> https://earthfuneral.com/?utm_term=body%20composting&utm_campaign=GF+%7C+NB+%7C+Human+Composting+Oregon+%7C+Search&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=9039600664&hsa_cam=17663777422&hsa_grp=139398576438&hsa_ad=608567351425&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-1021717080693&hsa_kw=body%20composting&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo3rUq7-Y5qJsNtdJMTWYy9FHUXmMmGfPeRHa87Op_Nfjqg-i8Ij6SRoC5cgQAvD_BwE
>>
>>>
I'll bet they'd get a lot more business if they included a free bag of
>> Resurrection Lily bulbs with the finished compoperson. Probably
>> wouldn't hurt to also develop some unoffensive messaging to
>> inform potential customers that it's also called a Spider
>> Lily........to attract the anti-religion people.
>>
>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> Well, guess I squandered my money needlessly on my place for
> eternity, down at the Santa Margarita Comm. Cemetery? Wonder if I
> can get a refund on my burial plot?
>
> Silas Marner Jr.
>
>

you could put a for sale ad in the New Times. Inflation might get you
more than you paid for it.

--
bill
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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 8:44:08 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> film...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:48:39 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> >> Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>> On 9/20/2022 6:25 PM, kmiller wrote:
> >>>> Dust to dust. And composting humans. I'd recommend it for the
> >>>> orange goon but that would be toxic waste! HawHawHaw!
> >>>>
> >>>> California lawmakers have approved a new way of returning
> >>>> those who have died to the earth, after Gavin Newsom signed
> >>>> into law a bill allowing human composting on Sunday.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cremation, which accounts for more than half of burials, is
> >>>> an energy-intensive process that emits chemicals such as CO2
> >>>> into the air. Through human composting, or natural organic
> >>>> reduction (NOR), the body is naturally broken down into
> >>>> soil.
> >>>>
> >>>> Assembly Bill 351, drafted by assembly member Cristina
> >>>> Garcia, allows for the natural organic reduction of human
> >>>> remains to soil, as a more environmentally friendly
> >>>> alternative to traditional burial methods.
> >>>>
> >>>> “With climate change and sea-level rise as very real
> >>>> threats to our environment, this is an alternative method of
> >>>> final disposition that won’t contribute emissions into
> >>>> our atmosphere,†Garcia said in a statement.
> >>>>
> >>>> The process involves placing the deceased in an 8ft-long
> >>>> steel box with biodegradable materials such as wood chips and
> >>>> flowers. After 30 to 60 days, the body breaks down into soil
> >>>> that can be returned to relatives.
> >>>>
> >>>> California is the fifth state to legalize human composting,
> >>>> after Washington, Colorado, Vermont and Oregon. The demand
> >>>> for such after-life care has been growing in recent years
> >>>> said Micah Truman, founder and CEO of Return Home, a funeral
> >>>> home in the Seattle area that specializes in human
> >>>> composting.
> >>>>
> >>>> “With cremation, instead of sitting with our person and
> >>>> saying goodbye, we are very divorced from the process,â€
> >>>> he said.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not everyone is supportive of the new California bill, with
> >>>> the California Catholic Conference saying the composting
> >>>> process “reduces the human body to simply a disposable
> >>>> commodity†.
> >>>>
> >>>> “The practice of respectfully burying the bodies or the
> >>>> honoring of the ashes of the deceased comports with the
> >>>> virtually universal norm of reverence and care towards the
> >>>> deceased,†it said.
> >>>>
> >>>> But Truman said there was such a large demand for human
> >>>> composting, and so few states that allow it, that people from
> >>>> 12 different states have brought their loved ones over state
> >>>> lines to be composted at Return Home.
> >>>>
> >>>> Truman said that when a body is composted, it is returned to
> >>>> the family to do with it as they wish. Customers have planted
> >>>> trees and flowers, or spread soil into the ocean.
> >>>>
> >>>> One farmer requested before dying that his body be returned
> >>>> to the farm he spent his life tending. “There is no
> >>>> limit to what can be done with the soil after death,â€
> >>>> Truman said.
> >>>>
> >>>> Composting runs at about $5,000 to $7,000, compared with the
> >>>> median price of $7,225 for casket burials and $6,028 for
> >>>> cremation in California. Garcia, who had tried to pass the
> >>>> bill for the past three years, emphasized the environmental
> >>>> argument for composting in a statement.
> >>>>
> >>>> “The wildfires, extreme drought and heat dome we just
> >>>> experienced remind us that climate change is real and
> >>>> detrimental and we must do everything we can to reduce
> >>>> methane and CO2 emissions,†she said..
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/19/human-composting-california-human-remains-green-burial
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> Recompose, the first human-composting funeral home in the U.S., is now
> >>> open for business
> >>>
> >>> Jan. 22, 2021 at 6:00 am Updated Jan. 22, 2021 at 5:19 pm
> >>>
> >>> https://www.seattletimes.com/life/recompose-the-first-human-compositing-funeral-home-in-the-u-s-is-now-open-for-business/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> "Carbon neutral funerals
> >>>
> >>> Earth provides the Pacific Northwest’s most sustainable
> >>> funeral option. Make arrangements online, over the phone, or
> >>> in-person."
> >>>
> >>> https://earthfuneral.com/?utm_term=body%20composting&utm_campaign=GF+%7C+NB+%7C+Human+Composting+Oregon+%7C+Search&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=9039600664&hsa_cam=17663777422&hsa_grp=139398576438&hsa_ad=608567351425&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-1021717080693&hsa_kw=body%20composting&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo3rUq7-Y5qJsNtdJMTWYy9FHUXmMmGfPeRHa87Op_Nfjqg-i8Ij6SRoC5cgQAvD_BwE
> >>
> >>>
> I'll bet they'd get a lot more business if they included a free bag of
> >> Resurrection Lily bulbs with the finished compoperson. Probably
> >> wouldn't hurt to also develop some unoffensive messaging to
> >> inform potential customers that it's also called a Spider
> >> Lily........to attract the anti-religion people.
> >>
> >> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
> >
> > Well, guess I squandered my money needlessly on my place for
> > eternity, down at the Santa Margarita Comm. Cemetery? Wonder if I
> > can get a refund on my burial plot?
> >
> > Silas Marner Jr.
> >
> >
> you could put a for sale ad in the New Times. Inflation might get you
> more than you paid for it.
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Maybe? I hadn't considered "flipping" my burial plot, before.... I'd hate for a business opportunity to pass me by..... BTW, I also have a vacation burial plot down at Rose Hills, in Whittier, CA,! Rose Hills told me that I couldn't sell it... They said I couldn't back out of the deal, my parents had made with them, 60 years ago....

Monte Hall Jr.

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film...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 8:44:08 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>> film...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:48:39 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>> On 9/20/2022 6:25 PM, kmiller wrote:
>>>>>> Dust to dust. And composting humans. I'd recommend it for
>>>>>> the orange goon but that would be toxic waste!
>>>>>> HawHawHaw!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> California lawmakers have approved a new way of
>>>>>> returning those who have died to the earth, after Gavin
>>>>>> Newsom signed into law a bill allowing human composting
>>>>>> on Sunday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cremation, which accounts for more than half of burials,
>>>>>> is an energy-intensive process that emits chemicals such
>>>>>> as CO2 into the air. Through human composting, or natural
>>>>>> organic reduction (NOR), the body is naturally broken
>>>>>> down into soil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assembly Bill 351, drafted by assembly member Cristina
>>>>>> Garcia, allows for the natural organic reduction of
>>>>>> human remains to soil, as a more environmentally
>>>>>> friendly alternative to traditional burial methods.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “With climate change and sea-level rise as
>>>>>> very real threats to our environment, this is an
>>>>>> alternative method of final disposition that
>>>>>> won’t contribute emissions into our
>>>>>> atmosphere,†Garcia said in a statement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The process involves placing the deceased in an 8ft-long
>>>>>> steel box with biodegradable materials such as wood chips
>>>>>> and flowers. After 30 to 60 days, the body breaks down
>>>>>> into soil that can be returned to relatives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> California is the fifth state to legalize human
>>>>>> composting, after Washington, Colorado, Vermont and
>>>>>> Oregon. The demand for such after-life care has been
>>>>>> growing in recent years said Micah Truman, founder and
>>>>>> CEO of Return Home, a funeral home in the Seattle area
>>>>>> that specializes in human composting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “With cremation, instead of sitting with
>>>>>> our person and saying goodbye, we are very divorced from
>>>>>> the process,†he said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not everyone is supportive of the new California bill,
>>>>>> with the California Catholic Conference saying the
>>>>>> composting process “reduces the human body
>>>>>> to simply a disposable commodity†.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “The practice of respectfully burying the
>>>>>> bodies or the honoring of the ashes of the deceased
>>>>>> comports with the virtually universal norm of reverence
>>>>>> and care towards the deceased,†it said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But Truman said there was such a large demand for human
>>>>>> composting, and so few states that allow it, that people
>>>>>> from 12 different states have brought their loved ones
>>>>>> over state lines to be composted at Return Home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Truman said that when a body is composted, it is returned
>>>>>> to the family to do with it as they wish. Customers have
>>>>>> planted trees and flowers, or spread soil into the
>>>>>> ocean.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One farmer requested before dying that his body be
>>>>>> returned to the farm he spent his life tending.
>>>>>> “There is no limit to what can be done
>>>>>> with the soil after death,†Truman said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Composting runs at about $5,000 to $7,000, compared with
>>>>>> the median price of $7,225 for casket burials and $6,028
>>>>>> for cremation in California. Garcia, who had tried to
>>>>>> pass the bill for the past three years, emphasized the
>>>>>> environmental argument for composting in a statement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “The wildfires, extreme drought and heat
>>>>>> dome we just experienced remind us that climate change is
>>>>>> real and detrimental and we must do everything we can to
>>>>>> reduce methane and CO2 emissions,†she said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/19/human-composting-california-human-remains-green-burial
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
Recompose, the first human-composting funeral home in the U.S., is now
>>>>> open for business
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan. 22, 2021 at 6:00 am Updated Jan. 22, 2021 at 5:19 pm
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.seattletimes.com/life/recompose-the-first-human-compositing-funeral-home-in-the-u-s-is-now-open-for-business/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>>
"Carbon neutral funerals
>>>>>
>>>>> Earth provides the Pacific Northwest’s
>>>>> most sustainable funeral option. Make arrangements online,
>>>>> over the phone, or in-person."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://earthfuneral.com/?utm_term=body%20composting&utm_campaign=GF+%7C+NB+%7C+Human+Composting+Oregon+%7C+Search&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=9039600664&hsa_cam=17663777422&hsa_grp=139398576438&hsa_ad=608567351425&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-1021717080693&hsa_kw=body%20composting&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo3rUq7-Y5qJsNtdJMTWYy9FHUXmMmGfPeRHa87Op_Nfjqg-i8Ij6SRoC5cgQAvD_BwE
>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>>
I'll bet they'd get a lot more business if they included a free bag of
>>>> Resurrection Lily bulbs with the finished compoperson.
>>>> Probably wouldn't hurt to also develop some unoffensive
>>>> messaging to inform potential customers that it's also called
>>>> a Spider Lily........to attract the anti-religion people.
>>>>
>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>
>>> Well, guess I squandered my money needlessly on my place for
>>> eternity, down at the Santa Margarita Comm. Cemetery? Wonder if
>>> I can get a refund on my burial plot?
>>>
>>> Silas Marner Jr.
>>>
>>>
>> you could put a for sale ad in the New Times. Inflation might get
>> you more than you paid for it. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if
>> it don't work.
>
> Maybe? I hadn't considered "flipping" my burial plot, before....
> I'd hate for a business opportunity to pass me by..... BTW, I
> also have a vacation burial plot down at Rose Hills, in Whittier,
> CA,! Rose Hills told me that I couldn't sell it... They said I
> couldn't back out of the deal, my parents had made with them, 60
> years ago....

Vacation burial plot? You go down there a few times a year for a short
getaway-from-it-all dirt nap? Maybe you should look into time-sharing it.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: film...@gmail.com - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 07:03 UTC

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:18:33 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> film...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 8:44:08 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> >> film...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:48:39 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> >>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>>>> On 9/20/2022 6:25 PM, kmiller wrote:
> >>>>>> Dust to dust. And composting humans. I'd recommend it for
> >>>>>> the orange goon but that would be toxic waste!
> >>>>>> HawHawHaw!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> California lawmakers have approved a new way of
> >>>>>> returning those who have died to the earth, after Gavin
> >>>>>> Newsom signed into law a bill allowing human composting
> >>>>>> on Sunday.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cremation, which accounts for more than half of burials,
> >>>>>> is an energy-intensive process that emits chemicals such
> >>>>>> as CO2 into the air. Through human composting, or natural
> >>>>>> organic reduction (NOR), the body is naturally broken
> >>>>>> down into soil.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Assembly Bill 351, drafted by assembly member Cristina
> >>>>>> Garcia, allows for the natural organic reduction of
> >>>>>> human remains to soil, as a more environmentally
> >>>>>> friendly alternative to traditional burial methods.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> “With climate change and sea-level rise as
> >>>>>> very real threats to our environment, this is an
> >>>>>> alternative method of final disposition that
> >>>>>> won’t contribute emissions into our
> >>>>>> atmosphere,†Garcia said in a statement.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The process involves placing the deceased in an 8ft-long
> >>>>>> steel box with biodegradable materials such as wood chips
> >>>>>> and flowers. After 30 to 60 days, the body breaks down
> >>>>>> into soil that can be returned to relatives.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> California is the fifth state to legalize human
> >>>>>> composting, after Washington, Colorado, Vermont and
> >>>>>> Oregon. The demand for such after-life care has been
> >>>>>> growing in recent years said Micah Truman, founder and
> >>>>>> CEO of Return Home, a funeral home in the Seattle area
> >>>>>> that specializes in human composting.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> “With cremation, instead of sitting with
> >>>>>> our person and saying goodbye, we are very divorced from
> >>>>>> the process,†he said.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not everyone is supportive of the new California bill,
> >>>>>> with the California Catholic Conference saying the
> >>>>>> composting process “reduces the human body
> >>>>>> to simply a disposable commodity†.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> “The practice of respectfully burying the
> >>>>>> bodies or the honoring of the ashes of the deceased
> >>>>>> comports with the virtually universal norm of reverence
> >>>>>> and care towards the deceased,†it said.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But Truman said there was such a large demand for human
> >>>>>> composting, and so few states that allow it, that people
> >>>>>> from 12 different states have brought their loved ones
> >>>>>> over state lines to be composted at Return Home.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Truman said that when a body is composted, it is returned
> >>>>>> to the family to do with it as they wish. Customers have
> >>>>>> planted trees and flowers, or spread soil into the
> >>>>>> ocean.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One farmer requested before dying that his body be
> >>>>>> returned to the farm he spent his life tending.
> >>>>>> “There is no limit to what can be done
> >>>>>> with the soil after death,†Truman said.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Composting runs at about $5,000 to $7,000, compared with
> >>>>>> the median price of $7,225 for casket burials and $6,028
> >>>>>> for cremation in California. Garcia, who had tried to
> >>>>>> pass the bill for the past three years, emphasized the
> >>>>>> environmental argument for composting in a statement.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> “The wildfires, extreme drought and heat
> >>>>>> dome we just experienced remind us that climate change is
> >>>>>> real and detrimental and we must do everything we can to
> >>>>>> reduce methane and CO2 emissions,†she said.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/19/human-composting-california-human-remains-green-burial
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>
> Recompose, the first human-composting funeral home in the U.S., is now
> >>>>> open for business
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jan. 22, 2021 at 6:00 am Updated Jan. 22, 2021 at 5:19 pm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.seattletimes.com/life/recompose-the-first-human-compositing-funeral-home-in-the-u-s-is-now-open-for-business/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>
> "Carbon neutral funerals
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Earth provides the Pacific Northwest’s
> >>>>> most sustainable funeral option. Make arrangements online,
> >>>>> over the phone, or in-person."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://earthfuneral.com/?utm_term=body%20composting&utm_campaign=GF+%7C+NB+%7C+Human+Composting+Oregon+%7C+Search&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=9039600664&hsa_cam=17663777422&hsa_grp=139398576438&hsa_ad=608567351425&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-1021717080693&hsa_kw=body%20composting&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo3rUq7-Y5qJsNtdJMTWYy9FHUXmMmGfPeRHa87Op_Nfjqg-i8Ij6SRoC5cgQAvD_BwE
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>
> I'll bet they'd get a lot more business if they included a free bag of
> >>>> Resurrection Lily bulbs with the finished compoperson.
> >>>> Probably wouldn't hurt to also develop some unoffensive
> >>>> messaging to inform potential customers that it's also called
> >>>> a Spider Lily........to attract the anti-religion people.
> >>>>
> >>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
> >>>
> >>> Well, guess I squandered my money needlessly on my place for
> >>> eternity, down at the Santa Margarita Comm. Cemetery? Wonder if
> >>> I can get a refund on my burial plot?
> >>>
> >>> Silas Marner Jr.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> you could put a for sale ad in the New Times. Inflation might get
> >> you more than you paid for it. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if
> >> it don't work.
> >
> > Maybe? I hadn't considered "flipping" my burial plot, before....
> > I'd hate for a business opportunity to pass me by..... BTW, I
> > also have a vacation burial plot down at Rose Hills, in Whittier,
> > CA,! Rose Hills told me that I couldn't sell it... They said I
> > couldn't back out of the deal, my parents had made with them, 60
> > years ago....
> Vacation burial plot? You go down there a few times a year for a short
> getaway-from-it-all dirt nap? Maybe you should look into time-sharing it.
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.


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