In article <t0q3no$2jqpf$1@news.freedyn.de>, fdasrdon@jam.rr.com wrote:
>>In article <e4CdndZLwtLy2a3_nZ2dnUU7-Y_NnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>>> The Biden administration�s objections to the transfer of MiG-29s from
>>> Poland to Ukraine have been perplexing to many commentators and
>>> analysts, as have their purported explanations.
>>>
>>> The latest of which, supposedly from the DoD, was that the transfer of
>>> the aircraft would have little effect and be too provocative. MiG-29s
>>> wouldn�t be helpful? Really?
>>>
>>> And yet, these arguments have been rejected by many generals and
>>> experts who believe these MiG-29 aircraft could make a difference in
>>> the ability of Ukraine to defend itself, and see little escalatory
>>> difference from the weapons we are currently providing.
>>>
>>> In fact, Ukraine, with its current force of fifty-six MiGs has
>>> indicated that the 50% increase this would represent will help them
>>> achieve a critical mass necessary to combat the Russians.
>>>
>>> Not Just MiG-29s: Why Joe Biden Isn�t Helping Ukraine As Much as He
>>> Could
>>>
>>> But the truth is the administration has been providing only limited
>>> support for quite some time.
>>>
>>> Even back in November before the invasion, when they were warning
>>> vociferously of it, Ukraine�s request for Harpoon anti-ship missiles
>>> was denied, with which it could have defended its ports.
>>>
>>> More recently, the administration has balked at a ban on Russian oil,
>>> only agreeing to it under pressure from House Democrats.
>>>
>>> So why is the Administration throwing Ukraine under the proverbial
>>> bridge and giving these tepid explanations?
>>>
>>> Maybe, because it has something that it wants far more, and it needs
>>> the Russians for it. Maybe, it�s the new Iran nuclear deal. And, the
>>> White House wants it so badly, it is willing to placate Russia on
>>> Ukraine by blocking the transfer.
>>>
>>> Note that the transfer of an array of weapons to Ukraine has received
>>> vast and rare bi-partisan support through the recent passage of the
>>> funding bill, with $13.6 billion in aid.
>>>
>>> Likewise, senators and congressmen from both parties have called for
>>> the transfer of these fighters, as well as other arms.
>>>
>>> But the administration keeps coming up with excuses, first signaling it
>>> endorsed the transfer but blaming Poland for the delay, and then upon
>>> having their hands forced when Poland offered to fly the planes to
>>> Ramstein Air Base and turn them over to the US, came the latest
>>> explanations. Supposedly from DOD.
>>>
>>> This makes us look spineless, disorganized, and without resolve, when
>>> it is increasingly clear NATO is capable of crushing Russia.
>>>
>>> It makes us look afraid.
>>>
>>> But, it does inspire the Russians to press further. And given this
>>> confusion, it�s time for the administration to be honest as to what is
>>> important to them. Currently, it doesn�t appear to be Ukraine.
>>>
>>> Forget the questionable decision to continue relying on the Russians as
>>> mediators in our negotiations with Iran. Our legislators need to know
>>> the administration�s true priorities, as well as the other NATO
>>> members, so we don�t look indecisive in this war.
>>>
>>> It only signals weakness to the rest of the world, including China.
>>>
>>> And not all of it needs to be shared publically, like virtually
>>> everything else that has been shared about what we will not be willing
>>> to do.
>>>
>>> Notice that Putin acts, then he tells you what he wants, and he does so
>>> with a hammer.
>>>
>>> He doesn�t ask permission.
>>>
>>> We may wish to consider the same strategy because he has been out-
>>> maneuvering and out-bluffing us and because NATO appears paralyzed.
>>>
>>> Beyond the MiG-29 Fiasco
>>>
>>> But before we do that, we need to be in agreement as to what our
>>> priorities are.
>>>
>>> Personally, I think we owe it to Ukraine, we got them to divest of
>>> their nukes with an implicit promise of protection; without that, this
>>> would probably not have occurred. And they are fighting courageously
>>> and our words and principles matter.
>>>
>>> But I am not in a position to make policy, it is our administration,
>>> NATO, and our legislature. And the question is how do we want to define
>>> ourselves?
>>>
>>> Because this is not the only threat or challenge that the US or NATO
>>> will likely confront.
>>
>>How do they get to Ukraine?
>
>Trump would have done it and started WW3

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In article <HeKdnctCxrnCyav_nZ2dnUU7-b2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> >>How do they get to Ukraine?
> >
> >Trump would have done it and started WW3
>
>
> TROLL-O-METER

Yes, that's a troll. Would idjt would really do is first paint
Chinese markings on them before flying them out of US bases.

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